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Takuan_Soho said: SAO was never supposed to be a "party" game. It's appeal was that it was the first Virtual Reality game (which Log Horizon wasn't until it became reality), so it was more focused on individual experience in VR. That was the appeal. Regardless of it's selling point, SAO is STILL an MMORPG. Considering they have guild system and also needed to form a party to defeat the floor bosses, it's simply absurd to say that it was never supposed to be a "party" game. SAO is an MMORPG anime that forgot that it's supposed to be an MMORPG, it's as simple as that. |
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| wow wonder what the new enemy is. |
| I'm digging these raid fights. Brings me back to the good ol' days when I used to play MMOs. |
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MoeGod said: Takuan_Soho said: SAO was never supposed to be a "party" game. It's appeal was that it was the first Virtual Reality game (which Log Horizon wasn't until it became reality), so it was more focused on individual experience in VR. That was the appeal. Regardless of it's selling point, SAO is STILL an MMORPG. Considering they have guild system and also needed to form a party to defeat the floor bosses, it's simply absurd to say that it was never supposed to be a "party" game. SAO is an MMORPG anime that forgot that it's supposed to be an MMORPG, it's as simple as that. The currently airing SAO mini-arc is actually about raiding a dungeon, but they only have 7 people and MMO mechanics are skipped in its entirety. It's somewhat a shame. The original SAO light novels actually went into a lot of details surrounding MMO mechanics, since the author has long been a MMO fan. I'm glad that Log Horizon has not forsaken the mechanics side of a MMO anime. |
| Demi-Demi is that rogue who keeps pulling more trash mobs without waiting for me to taunt first :( |
| Man, I hate aggro resets. D: If only every raid could have Shiroe around maybe I'd do them more often. I love how there are really recognizable aspects to this anime from actual games. |
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| akatsuki's been looking real suspect lately. seems ninjas can't be at peace unless they're with their masters. I sense a civil war been hero's and natives coming soon. this better be epic though. |
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| The main reason why i loved LH is the explanation, and they really showed it on this episode. As a rpg player, i JUST LOVED THE ENTIRE THING :-D I hope i can experience something like this lol. And Yes the Music did got better. And it looks like there is something more to this dungeon, like how they said something about a new skill level 'teachings'. And Yes, it looks like the other characters wont miss out the action. |
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| I love it when Shiroe explains the situation in battles, it makes it a lot more understandable to me! 2 bosses down, more raiding to go! Tetora healing everyone in her path! A new antagonist has appeared it looks like, wonder how his design is! |
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| great episode, it was nice to see some action and info on raids! |
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| The raid fights are awesome. |
| not much else to say but that i like it, and the raid explanation was cool. But I really have no idea whats going down. Something doesnt seem right |
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| Glad to see DEEN isn't screwing this series up, animations seems ok, the fights are interesting and i love how Shiroe's voice explains what is happening behind the raid. The hype is on. |
wigglejelly said: Too much explaining. it ain't log horizon w/o the detailed explanations. i actually like it though, gives me a sense of nostalgia i wonder who that character at the end might be. maybe , or maybe not. |
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| I'm still a bit confused about the details of raid mechanics. 1. When a player gets killed in a raid, can they re-enter the battle immediately, or do they have to wait for the other players to exit the zone or die? (I'm guessing they're just re-entering without delay in Elder Tale, but I'm not sure. I'm also guessing if all 24 players are dead at the same time, the whole raid gets reset, and they have to kill -all- the bosses again.) 2. Shiroe says raids can take over a month, but how is that possible in the real world? Does the raid not need to be completed in a single play session? ...Or is Shiroe including the time spent figuring out the boss's attack patterns in failed attempts? Aside: That character at the end appears to be the same one that was polishing the Royal Guard armour in episode 1. |
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Takata said: I'm still a bit confused about the details of raid mechanics. 1. When a player gets killed in a raid, can they re-enter the battle immediately, or do they have to wait for the other players to exit the zone or die? (I'm guessing they're just re-entering without delay in Elder Tale, but I'm not sure. I'm also guessing if all 24 players are dead at the same time, the whole raid gets reset, and they have to kill -all- the bosses again.) 2. Shiroe says raids can take over a month, but how is that possible in the real world? Does the raid not need to be completed in a single play session? ...Or is Shiroe including the time spent figuring out the boss's attack patterns in failed attempts? Aside: That character at the end appears to be the same one that was polishing the Royal Guard armour in episode 1. 1. no they start at the beginning of the being of the raid. they have to walk back to the team. 2. other people can explain that better then me look at page 4 of this topic |
PoisonedTea said: 1. no they start at the beginning of the being of the raid. they have to walk back to the team. 2. other people can explain that better then me look at page 4 of this topic 1. ...okay, so just a walk back. Doesn't sound too bad. 2. Okay... so I guess the 1 month quoted by Shiroe is the time taken to figure out boss attack patterns and explore the area. I'm also guessing they defeated Vendemiaire again if he respawned, without as much trouble as the first time since they figured out an efficient way to defeat him. O.o |
Takata said: 2. Okay... so I guess the 1 month quoted by Shiroe is the time taken to figure out boss attack patterns and explore the area. I'm also guessing they defeated Vendemiaire again if he respawned, without as much trouble as the first time since they figured out an efficient way to defeat him. O.o I don't think the mobs are respawning, since dead players should have to face the respawn without the full raid. And I don't think bosses can just respawn, there should be some kind of reset of the istance before that. |
| Excellent episode with all the explanations on game mechanics, but seeing them raid like this and the members die and getting revived especially that one guy who kept saying he screwed up, it kinda form a scary thought in perspective just how many times some of them died in this raid not to mention since the Apocalypse begin and how much memory of the real world they have lost.... fifty times? A hundred? Thinking about it more and about what William said in the last episode, these guys are indeed super hardcore gamers. How many had a troubled real life that they ceded to forgetting in favor of immersion into the ET world ie. game>irl? I also recall that line Crusty said in S1. "You forget what you have forgotten." There's a bit of a somber undertone behind these glorious fighting but interesting stuff nevertheless. |
| Great action with the raids in the first half Snowfell a poke to Winterfell? |
AppoX said: HAHAHA, YES FINALLY. Long have I waited, finally an 'MMO' anime with actual MMO mechanics in it! GLORIOUS, 10/10. DEEN didn't destroy the dream. They continued it! (though I preferred Satelight's animation and art for everything.....) ^^ lenessia is really bad too |
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| I really like how they explain the mechanics of the game. |
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| Loved all the explanatory stuff during the raid and Shiroe .....keep talking strategy! Tetra's really funny too...love her and Naotsugu as a team. William's pretty awesome too and the dude at the end! More action coming up...yaayy! |
| Good ep i guess. I dont seem to enjoy it as much as S1 |
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Demi is super-annoying. Dat "Christmas" and "Santa Claus" was so awesome yet the "Snowfell" was kinda weird, did Rudy always speak like that? Great episode nonetheless. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
julyanOct 20, 2014 8:02 AM
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wigglejelly said: Well, it is a classic thing where there is an absurdly high level monster that is just a jelly but can do one-hit kill to a lower level equipment players, so i guess LH put that into this. XDslime is level 90. lol can't they have a better mob ? Too much explaining. It really suck if they need to walk again from the re-spawn spot, though. I guess teleport skill really didn't exist on this game, huh. XD Now the threat comes. Why everyone seems to hate Akatsuki, though. It's true all of her "my lord" talk can be a annoying, but i never think the hate wave will be such strong. Well, next week "probably" her time to get some development. |
| Seems like that raid is gonna take them awhile, not good since there's some weird fella lurking in Akihabara :o TragicRomance said: I'm hoping this isn't a spoiler -_- Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
julyanOct 20, 2014 8:03 AM
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| Nice explanations, that's one of the things i like the most about this show. Tetra was more tolerable this episode, thank goodness. Lol Delicious-san sure is pissed! Akatsuki seems troubled. Great episode 5/5 |
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xAvengerx said: Seems like that raid is gonna take them awhile, not good since there's some weird fella lurking in Akihabara :o I'm hoping this isn't a spoiler -_- It is, albeit a minor one. |
| Dat RAID OMFG. Wishing to go back to one of MMO's clear a raid dungeion someday. Santa Clause is the spy : 0 |
| That was a Hard Raid :o but slowly they making progress nice episode :D looks like the next episode kinda gloomy |
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| Those raid scenes were exciting. They were already fighting for like a month jeez. Demicas has to calm down for real. How you going to get mad at being buffed? I thought the white haired dude at the end would be a spy from the south but he's actually one of the People from the Land. Interesting. |
| 4/5 Wow! That the TV series has placed the arrow and is preparing, albeit slightly, to overtake the previous season? This is my impression. Narration that begins to like it, perhaps because it resembles to a certain qualmodo that seen in the first season, all of nature is a lot of information about the world of RPG! The drawings are unfortunately ugly, animations on the sufficiency. I look forward to the next episode to be denied. |
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| Holy mother of in-game mechanics. That's like the dream of every MMORPG players. How awesome it is if you can actually do a raid like that in a game? Where you actually spend that much time and teamwork @_@... William have a pretty badass bow. Also I hope Akatsuki gets that Teaching |
shirozuki said: Good ep i guess. I dont seem to enjoy it as much as S1 It might be because you watched the first season in a row and this one weekly? I dont know for you but that what happened to me so it take out a little bit of enjoyment but its still really enjoyable for me. |
| Really good episode, I liked the full raid explanation. Looks like Demi Demi has anger issues. And looks like a new villain has shown up. |
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| This episode made me miss raiding so much... I suppose I'll end up doing it again someday! |
| Imagine being in a raid for weeks on end. Raids can get pretty intense. |
| This episode was a masterpiece,a true raid. It reminded me of my WoW days. |
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| Nice detailed raid talk. Want more mysterious of the game revealed this season. |
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| I participated to a few raid, but I was always confused with all the action that is going. It's hard sometime to keep your role because it can be lame or whatever. Chrismas is coming, and from the last scene of the episode, it look like Santa has lost his way... :P |
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PaleBlue said: Haha me 2.This episode made me miss raiding so much... I suppose I'll end up doing it again someday! |
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