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straggy said: But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. I just want to say that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The reason this looks like it does has nothing to do with a "slideshow style." That's not even a thing. No one would choose between animating a show normally and barely animating one. The reason the show looks like it does is purely budgetary, nothing more, nothing less. |
| mabye they're saving money for the action scenes |
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AsherFischell said: straggy said: But really all this "bad animation" and "not animated" shit. There was no bad anatomy/movement, you're literally just angry that it's a slideshow style. That's not "not animated", it's a style. And it looks really cool. I just want to say that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The reason this looks like it does has nothing to do with a "slideshow style." That's not even a thing. No one would choose between animating a show normally and barely animating one. The reason the show looks like it does is purely budgetary, nothing more, nothing less. And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. |
straggy said: And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. Yami Shibai was intentionally animated to look like someone moving paper cutouts in order to reference an old style of story-telling that used paper scrolls. It also looked very cool and unique. If you're actually trying to use Yami Shibai to defend how awful Dai Shogun looks, then you've made it perfectly clear that you're incapable of differentiating between artistic minimalism and terrible, low-budget animation. If it was intentionally meant to be like a storybook as you seem to be saying, then it would not have used so much traditional animation. Additionally, the animation is very choppy and low quality, plus the mechs are all CG and move similar to how cg mechs in other shows move. If it was intentional, wouldn't the mechs fit into the equation as well? |
TheAshmanComethApr 11, 2014 8:33 PM
AsherFischell said: straggy said: And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. Yami Shibai was intentionally animated to look like someone moving paper cutouts in order to reference an old style of story-telling that used paper scrolls. It also looked very cool and unique. If you're actually trying to use Yami Shibai to defend how awful Dai Shogun looks, then you've made it perfectly clear that you're incapable of differentiating between artistic minimalism and terrible, low-budget animation. +1 straggy said: Man, this show is wasted on you people. Just drop it so it can be good riddance. I'm not that closed minded to drop on the first episode. LOL I'm just waiting for more. |
AsherFischell said: straggy said: And here we have someone that obviously hasn't seen Yami Shibai. Yami Shibai was intentionally animated to look like someone moving paper cutouts in order to reference an old style of story-telling that used paper scrolls. It also looked very cool and unique. If you're actually trying to use Yami Shibai to defend how awful Dai Shogun looks, then you've made it perfectly clear that you're incapable of differentiating between artistic minimalism and terrible, low-budget animation. If it was intentionally meant to be like a storybook as you seem to be saying, then it would not have used so much traditional animation. Additionally, the animation is very choppy and low quality, plus the mechs are all CG and move similar to how cg mechs in other shows move. If it was intentional, wouldn't the mechs fit into the equation as well? Just because a style is the result of a low budget doesn't mean it's not a fucking style omg. Have you seen other low budget shows? I really liked it, but I'm gonna use Gifuu Doudou as my example here. It had a really low budget and really bad animation because it tried to just animate like other shows when it didn't have the money to. Dai Shogun cleverly avoided that using a more slideshow style of movement so they could keep the characters looking good with great shading, colouring and lighting. The reason the mechs don't move like that is because they could fucking afford to do the CGI, it's not hard to understand. They did try to save money because they have a budget like all animes have a fucking budget, but they did it using a style that looks cool. You're making it clear that you don't know the difference between keeping to a budget badly and keeping to a budget well using a style (since people are saying it's not one when it evidently is) like Yami Shibai, WHICH IS WHY I'M USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE, DUH. omg did you even read anything i said, evidently not |
| This anime is absolutely absurd, but enjoyable to a certain extent... Is this what J.C. Staff has been reduced to this season? |
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straggy said: Just because a style is the result of a low budget doesn't mean it's not a fucking style omg. Have you seen other low budget shows? I really liked it, but I'm gonna use Gifuu Doudou as my example here. It had a really low budget and really bad animation because it tried to just animate like other shows when it didn't have the money to. Dai Shogun cleverly avoided that using a more slideshow style of movement so they could keep the characters looking good with great shading, colouring and lighting. The reason the mechs don't move like that is because they could fucking afford to do the CGI, it's not hard to understand. They did try to save money because they have a budget like all animes have a fucking budget, but they did it using a style that looks cool. You're making it clear that you don't know the difference between keeping to a budget badly and keeping to a budget well using a style (since people are saying it's not one when it evidently is) like Yami Shibai, WHICH IS WHY I'M USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE, DUH. omg did you even read anything i said, evidently not Yes, you're right. You have an exceptional eye for quality. It's not you who's wrong, it's everyone else. All the people who can see how obviously bad the anime looks don't know what they're talking about, because you thinking that something looks cool in spite of it looking terrible means that they did it on purpose. Let me be clear, you might want to get your eyes checked and then possibly your blood pressure. You should then look up the word, "style" in the dictionary, as you don't seem to know what it means, which is illustrated by the fact that you can't tell the difference between something that's intentionally awful and something that's awful due to budgetary constraints. You once again use Yami Shibai as an example, but you seem to be incapable of understanding the difference. Yami Shibai was intended to look the way it does because it's hard-wired into the anime. It doesn't look bad because they had the money to do exactly what they intended. Yami Shibai's look and this show's look have nothing to do with each other. You're merely comparing them because you don't seem to understand why Yami Shibai looks like it does. Dai Shogun, on the other hand, is the result of a shoddy production. I'm going to remind you; just because you like something doesn't mean that you're right. Additionally, getting angry and cursing doesn't make you right either. Everything you've just said is guesswork, plain and simple. However, it's guesswork that you're treating as fact. |
TheAshmanComethApr 12, 2014 12:06 AM
| Pure Crap |
| I am better than you. |
| LOL people, there is no point in debating over it, I honestly prefer this "slideshow animation" over Magi's staircase animation. People who enjoyed this, enjoyed this, people who didn't, don't. It was okay, the perverted enemy chick keeps me watching, (don't kill me JoJo fanboys) it kind of feels like JoJo from the 3-4 episodes I have seen from it, they had somewhat similar style. Edit: opondica said: Wow, I'm surprised everyone hates this so much. I didn't notice the (alleged) lack of animation because everything was so ridiculous and over the top that I couldn't keep the stupid grin off of my face. Almost reminds me of Kill la Kill or Inferno Cop in that respect. +1. |
ToG25thBaamApr 12, 2014 4:38 AM
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| I want to slap whoever signed off on the production of this crap. Pure garbage. |
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AsherFischell said: pretentious bs about how their opinion is better than everyone else's mostly, that's what it rattles down to, get your eyes checked b/c you dON'T AGREE WITH ME Literally no one cares. If you don't like the anime then stop fucking talking about it? This is a pretty simple concept. Why would you waste your time sat in the forum of a show you don't like? Do you have nothing better to do than argue with teenagers about your Japanese cartoons? And omg swearing =/= being angry. I'm just done being polite to you since you're stuck in a rut of your own obnoxious opinions. You should try not being so pretentious. Low budget and working with a low budget to make something cool despite it =/= bad animation. A budget doesn't automatically dictate whether it'll be good or not and you don't seem to understand that. Besides, last time I checked, an anime is a TV SHOW, not a piece of art. You're here for a story, not to wank yourself silly over whether or not they wave their arms as much as Dex Dogtective, damn. Then again, you like Higurashi and Blood+ anyway, you obviously don't know what good anime even looks like. (hint: it's nothing like them) |
straggy said: AsherFischell said: pretentious bs about how their opinion is better than everyone else's mostly, that's what it rattles down to, get your eyes checked b/c you dON'T AGREE WITH ME Literally no one cares. If you don't like the anime then stop fucking talking about it? This is a pretty simple concept. Why would you waste your time sat in the forum of a show you don't like? Do you have nothing better to do than argue with teenagers about your Japanese cartoons? And omg swearing =/= being angry. I'm just done being polite to you since you're stuck in a rut of your own obnoxious opinions. You should try not being so pretentious. Low budget and working with a low budget to make something cool despite it =/= bad animation. A budget doesn't automatically dictate whether it'll be good or not and you don't seem to understand that. Besides, last time I checked, an anime is a TV SHOW, not a piece of art. You're here for a story, not to wank yourself silly over whether or not they wave their arms as much as Dex Dogtective, damn. Then again, you like Higurashi and Blood+ anyway, you obviously don't know what good anime even looks like. (hint: it's nothing like them) Ooh, changing my quote field to something I didn't say. Aren't you a clever one? And if literally no one cares, why do you keep responding to me? Also, who said I disliked this anime? Just because something looks bad doesn't mean I automatically dislike the show itself, just the way it looks. I actually liked some of the jokes and character designs. So, you're trying to make make my points look weaker by mentioning shows that I liked on my list. You're assuming an awful lot, don't you think? Let me guess, you thought, "I don't like what this guy's saying, therefore I'll look at his list and pick out something that we disagree on, because nothing says that somebody's wrong about something like bringing in something that's completely unrelated." It's also extremely hypocritical that you're telling me that Higurashi and Blood shouldn't be liked because they don't look good, but you seem to be extremely sensitive in regards to an extremely ugly show that you've only seen a single episode of. You're criticizing me for liking shows because of their stories, but then you immediately say that I should be watching a show for the story, not the artwork. Which is it, then? Make up your mind before you say something. When you make an argument and then state that the opposite is true, they both cancel themselves out. You also ask me if I have nothing better to do than argue when you're doing the exact same thing. You're responding to arguments with your own arguments. I don't know how you didn't notice, but that's arguing. Additionally, you tell me not to be pretentious when you said, " Man, this show is wasted on you people. Just drop it so it can be good riddance." That statement implies that everyone complaining about the show lacks your excellent taste, so you've got no room to be calling anyone else pretentious and saying that I think MY opinion is better than anyone else's when that's exactly what you're doing. Also, don't say that you're, "done being polite" when you weren't being polite in the first place. Finally, anime is technically art. How you can be an anime fan without thinking that is sort of mind boggling, but whatever. You also say that anime fans should just be in it for the story when literally every anime has tons of artwork. So, you think that the artwork isn't a major part of anime shows? Really? THAT'S your argument? Why do you think anime fans watch anime instead of live action? You don't think they're in it for the art at all? Anyways, I'll look forward to your next response loaded to the brim with hypocrisy, childishness and contradictions. Ooh, and hopefully another out of place Food Fight reference. |
| Probably one of the worst shows this season has to offer. I mean the overall art direction is pretty cool and unique, but dude... Is there even any animation or movement in this? This felt like watching a diashow. Horrible. The comedy did not deliver as well. It's quite hard to explain why but those typical anime outbursts and spontaneous moments just felt... wrong and not very impactful. Voice actors didn't do that good of a job either. And it also doesn't help that the main guy feels like a carbon copy of Natsu from Fairy Tail (even has the voice actor), but only somehow worse. Nope / 5 |
Just sit back, and let your tears do the talking as I save you. |
AsherFischell said: yawn This just in, 26 year old man continues to spend his Saturday coming back to the forum of an anime he doesn't like to argue with teenagers and spend his time not actually reading what they say and twisting it, then being surprised that people that like the show keep defending it. Wow, shocking. I already said I don't care. |
straggy said: AsherFischell said: yawn This just in, 26 year old man continues to spend his Saturday coming back to the forum of an anime he doesn't like to argue with teenagers and spend his time not actually reading what they say and twisting it, then being surprised that people that like the show keep defending it. Wow, shocking. I already said I don't care. Once again, if you don't care, stop responding. Speaking of not reading what other people say, you obviously didn't read when I said that I didn't dislike the show as a whole, only the animation and art. I'm glad that you're ignoring your own obvious hypocrisy, though. Have fun being a contradictory hypocrite! |
| Girls, girls, calm your tits. You're both pretty. Enjoying this show so far :) It does remind me of NobuFool, which imo is a good thing (I think way too many people dropped that show too early), except with more boobs. I'm not quite as interested in the MC of this as I am Nobunaga, but he's amusing enough. I'll see how much I like it after we introduce a violent loli tsundere fox-girl to the mix. Violent tsunderes are only worth the payoff in hentai, when you can see them put in their proper place. |
| Anyboy else was here because of Hattori Kiriko? This looks like any other mediocre anime with boobshows with missing links throughout the show, horribly scripted at times that is down right laugable and s little overboard with the comical relief. I can't really expect that much can i? Though i have to admit the artwork is pretty neat comparing to most anime out there but then again theres minimal animation which pretty much explains why. I can't say i really like it neither can i say its so bad till its unwatchable. To me its simply marginal, a little gags here and there and maybe i'm comfortable with "slideshows" anime as i had many experience with it. Regardless its still too early to judge, lets wait and see whats the next few installments are before i can really pass on a full review A little backstory i knew of. Originally Hattori Kirko is a character illustration of the famous Yamashita Shun'ya who has done many artwork adaptations for Kotobukiya, Yamato and Reflect. It was originally from a multimedia project called Enka Oudou Dai Shogun encompassing every aspects of an anime branding. The brains behind this project are the toy makers from Yamato; Yoshizawa Mitsumasa and co-creator, illustrator Yamashita Shun'ya and which the studio comissioned for the animations is Studio Anima in 2009 So simply said, it was meant to be a figurine that made its way into animation. |
IzeApr 12, 2014 7:42 PM
| this show hurts my brain..... literally zero fucks where given by the staff that made this |
| At the first frame I decided to drop it XD |
Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- LOL, that was funny almost. The granny with the eyepatch is the best character so far. The OP song was meh but whatever. A lot of female characters so far are pretty badass. This almost felt like watching Nobuanga the Fool in a few ways. Need more Kiriko though. We got some badass grannies this season Oh and I noticed Keiichiro is voiced by same VA as Natsu from FT. No wonder they are hotheaded. Yeah it looks decent so far. I'm loving the beautiful art designs but the animation could use some work though. And I agree with you, both Houkouin and Kiriko are so hot! and badass at the same time. I can see that i am going to continuing on watching this though I'm hoping there will be epic moments since Keiichirou is voiced by Natsu/Simon VA. |
srwgfanApr 13, 2014 10:42 PM
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| Oh my goodness, that was terrible. Still, I'll give it my usual 3 chapters. |
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| I don't know if they intended it to be bad on purpose, but I'm loving it eitherway. I haven't laughed that much in awhile. |
"Be the change you wish to see in the world."  |
| It seems they do not plan to sell this anime well, with this cheap animation. And so many manliness in the beginning; was afraid no girls would appear. But actually, this was pretty funny. Looking forward to Chiharu appearing next episode. |
| Strange. We have a great cast but the output is outright shit. Just.. seriously. Dropped indefinitely. |
| I couldn't even make it though the full episode before dropping this show. This must of been the lowest budget anime Ive ever seen. |
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| No, your name is not Kiriko. Your name is Taki. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| Well, that was dumb. Dropped. Ok... so this chick is wearing a kimono with major cleavage... then she rips that off and is suddenly fully covered in ninja-spandex... nice shoes though. Ninja-granny... that's not something you see every day... and I hope to never see it again. |
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| Ugh. Well all I gotta say is the girls are hot and at least the boobies were animated ;D oh and the mech designs are decent too. Should've been a hentai :> Maybe I'll watch this once the BD's are out for now putting it on-hold. |
| I think they're saving the animation for the robot fights, just see the op song, it has good stuff. Finally real ecchi not that weak sauce sheet. |
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jiraiya_sensei said: I regret downloading this.. what a waste of bandwidth xchee said: This is the first time I've ever skipped/fast-forwarded a show's first episode Gawd I keep telling myself "It's ok, Kakki (Kakihara Tetsuya) voices him, even if the anime is so bad, I'll keep watching it" but I can't I'M SORRY I'M SUCH A BAD KAKKI FAN *cries* on a side note, I don't mind shoving titties to my face every time but since it's so redundant, I lost interest (just like that guy from American Virgin...yeah, that was one hell of a stupid movie) |
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| Haha, well this anime is seriously stupid and has usual plot going along it. However it made me laugh so much and somehow i enjoyed it. Compared to that other anime robo daimidaler which was stupid as well but i couldnt stand it. |
| Booooring. Dropped. |
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| It wasn't so bad. |
loki_16 said: It wasn't so bad. I agree, the only thing lacking is the animation. I believe anyone can enjoy any kind of series with the right mindset, they came in with the wrong one that's it. |
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| lol that was interesting that cops so hung up on, more virgin more n the granny had a huge bust |
| mmmm gonna give it couple more EPs because tits... |
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| this show is teeming with hot chicks but the MC has to stay a virgin in order to pilot that thing... it's painful! well it's funny at least. the censors though... fuck |
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| The least you could have done was show nipples on the BD, but noooo. This is going to be a hard watch. Main girl is fine though. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| well eroi in the least and weak plot |
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| This is a typical case of great art but horrible animation... or rather barely any animation at all. But I've sen worse, at least the art looks quite good. Did he just pass out from groping her boobs? A true virgin he is lol. This might a be a so-bad-its-good show and I don't even like mecha. At least there are a bunch of hot evil chicks, so I'll keep watching for the fanservice at least. |
| It looks like this anime is going to be colossal shit.. Ps: Even the old woman has big boobs haha. |
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