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Dec 3, 2011 8:36 PM
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i actually think at first nick hid the meteor shard inside the telescope, which is how they saw stars when there weren't any (it allowed them to see what wasn't there which is what happens when you are in the gate) sicne they were looking through the lens. then corinna tried to steal it (no idea what happened to her though!) causing nick to hide it elsewhere (pretty sure nick killed her as shown by obeisance).

the only thing that is slightly frustrating is feeling a lot of things are unexplained like where did nick go.. does it mean he fulfilled his dream but really he just died? same with previous episodes like the one about perfume.. what is it for/what's with the petunias!
Dec 7, 2011 9:34 PM

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they need to show more of that other girl-*see's preview* ok you got me, but i wanna see her with Li so ha!


Jan 29, 2012 2:24 AM

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I didn't really get what happened, so I hope we'll get some better solid explanation of the Gate's works. It was surprising and yet interesting to find that Nick and Hei share their ability, combined with how Nick was seeing Hei as a person.
One of the less-good arcs out there. Still the piano theme in both the parts of this arc were really touching and good.
May 31, 2012 12:43 AM

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Can anyone clarify the significance of the reversed lettering Mina pointed out? The group of Pandora scientists were examining the footage where the expedition crew were being attacked; the footage briefly showed street signs that had its letters backwards in which Mina mentioned, but then that was it. I can't figure out why that happened.
Jun 15, 2012 1:47 PM

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Great episode, although I have so many questions.
I want more of the outside/near the gate stuff, it looks so awesome and so many strange things happen.
I think we'll never get an answer to these questions, the next arc is already starting.
I would've loved if this show had more than 2 episodes per arc, with more explanation and stuff.
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Jul 10, 2012 9:08 AM

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crazybear91 said:
i actually think at first nick hid the meteor shard inside the telescope, which is how they saw stars when there weren't any (it allowed them to see what wasn't there which is what happens when you are in the gate) sicne they were looking through the lens. then corinna tried to steal it (no idea what happened to her though!) causing nick to hide it elsewhere (pretty sure nick killed her as shown by obeisance).

the only thing that is slightly frustrating is feeling a lot of things are unexplained like where did nick go.. does it mean he fulfilled his dream but really he just died? same with previous episodes like the one about perfume.. what is it for/what's with the petunias!


Ah yes very interesting regarding the telescope, did not think of that.
Oct 16, 2012 5:28 PM

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Just when I felt that I was finally getting a grasp of the world of this anime, my theories are proven false again. Looking forward to watching more to understand what is going on.
Oct 29, 2012 5:20 AM
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Loserkid said:
Jeez, Hei can be such an ass sometimes. To Mina especially, in these last few eps.


Heh. I'm assuming you've watched season 2 by now, wonder what you'd think about Hei there.

But back to this episode, is the Indian doctor a contractor? And it's funny how Hei has all the girls hot for him even when he's in clumsy Clark Kent mode.
Nov 1, 2012 3:10 PM

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cyruz said:
I'm not really sure what happened but it was a real nice episode.

Was funny to see Nick and Hei having the same ability. I liked the psychologic parts of this episode, too, really interesting.


yay so i wasn't the only one
Nov 11, 2012 7:41 PM

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What the fuck was up with that rocket scene? Some weird shit right there, I dont get anything thats happening anymore.
Jan 13, 2013 4:38 AM

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It was a bit confusing, but I enjoyed it. Hei was cool like always.

Jan 29, 2013 5:28 PM

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man.... I was really confused near the end -_- I fell asleep last night near the end, but rewatching the last half doesnt help me.
so after reading through these four pages, NO ONE knows what really happened to nick? Since they say you can gain what you lost, do you think a rocket really materialized with his sister and he turned younger?
or was that a metaphor for him exploding himself with his power?

I know some may think this is a stupid question, but are they INSIDE the hells gate or not? it seems like they keep saying theyre in it, and then theyre not. I dont even understand what exactly the fucking hell's gate is. Im a very intelligent person, so maybe i just smoked too many bowls while watching this show, but it seems they havent specifically explained what exactly happened at hells gate that caused it. why cant they leave that facility for 30 days that theyre in in this episode and why'd they go there in the first place, not to mention what the fuck IS this facility that they're now in? wtf????? i like this anime but its really ambiguous. if anyone knows what happened to nick PLEASE enlighten me but if not atleast explain to me if theyre in hell's gate or not...
Feb 1, 2013 9:05 PM

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Wtf is happening.
Mar 29, 2013 8:28 AM

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Great and interesting episode, this sure was a bit confusing but sure was interesting in the end! Lets see what's next!
May 29, 2013 5:29 PM

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I guess when they said you can retrieve missing stuff only inside the gate happened with Nick he wanted to go out of space with his sister so that happened he turn younger cause they promised to each other when they where younger apparently or that is what i think at least. and what some one said about Hei having to do something with the starry sky because of his eyes is interesting it could explain why Nick said you believed in my dream right before he took of.
"When a flat-chested loli hugs you, she holds you closer to her heart"
"--I am a single bullet. It has no heart. Therefore, it does not think. It just flies straight towards its target."
Jun 13, 2013 12:31 PM
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Sandgolem said:
I have no idea what was going on...I was following the story fine up until the blast. Where it got really really fucking trippy. I have no idea what that indiana woman's power was, let alone her rumination, and I have no Idea what Yin did besides look at Hei through the puddle.


My thoughts exactly; the hell happened?!
Jul 3, 2013 4:27 PM
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Yeah that rocket scene...what does the meteor fragment do exactly? It made a huge ball of light and then Hei and Nick were in it or something....and then he came back to his senses because Yin was there in a puddle. Mhmmn. Super confused. But that last part when Hei gave Yin a candy and thanked her, that was cute.
Jul 9, 2013 6:05 AM

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tingy said:
Yeah that rocket scene...what does the meteor fragment do exactly? It made a huge ball of light and then Hei and Nick were in it or something....and then he came back to his senses because Yin was there in a puddle. Mhmmn. Super confused. But that last part when Hei gave Yin a candy and thanked her, that was cute.


maybe that fragment can make your wishes true ..or it can make an illusion that make your wishes come true....and I think you are right ..that Yin help Hei to came back to his sense ..or else he will disappear(like that scientist)

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Confusing episode ..but still it is great <3 ....Great anime (The ending song is really beautiful)
Jul 30, 2013 6:12 AM

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AnimusNathan said:
The girl looks like C.C. 0_o

Oh thank god I wasn't the only one who thought this.

Overall, pretty interesting episode. I couldn't fully comprehend everything, but it felt like a good episode. LOL
Aug 7, 2013 1:48 PM

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This arc was fantastic
Aug 30, 2013 4:45 AM
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An awesome episode so touching , I can't believe Hei and Nick have the same ability.
Sep 24, 2013 3:42 AM

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Loved this arc. Especially because of the relationship between Hei and Nick. They could have been brothers in some other life.

I think Hei is blinded by his self-righteousness. He kills contractors like he knows everything about them...
Sep 29, 2013 2:21 AM

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alpir said:
Loved this arc. Especially because of the relationship between Hei and Nick. They could have been brothers in some other life.

I think Hei is blinded by his self-righteousness. He kills contractors like he knows everything about them...
In my opinion he tries to save some of them.
Nov 16, 2013 1:37 PM

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WTF just happened? I think that my IQ is too low to understand this show. ^^; I'm gonna Wikipedia it before starting episode 13.
Nov 19, 2013 6:34 PM
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In version I'm watching they don't use the word rumination, they refer to "the price" which is somewhat different in context. On the bus the girl who die, whose name I can't remember, said that inside the gate you could regain whatever you lost, if you were willing to pay the price and then proceeded to wander what the price was. I think it was referring to the Indian woman paying the price for regaining whatever it was she lost, rather than saying she was a contractor. It was one of those things that was lost in translation. Is it just me, or did that woman a the end look unnervingly like C.C. from Code Geass? And they said Euphemia was a copy-cat! Hei's sister was so cute, I hope she's not dead!
Nov 19, 2013 6:45 PM
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I know some may think this is a stupid question, but are they INSIDE the hells gate or not? it seems like they keep saying theyre in it, and then theyre not. I dont even understand what exactly the fucking hell's gate is. Im a very intelligent person, so maybe i just smoked too many bowls while watching this show, but it seems they havent specifically explained what exactly happened at hells gate that caused it. why cant they leave that facility for 30 days that theyre in in this episode and why'd they go there in the first place, not to mention what the fuck IS this facility that they're now in? wtf????? i like this anime but its really ambiguous. if anyone knows what happened to nick PLEASE enlighten me but if not atleast explain to me if theyre in hell's gate or not...
I believ they are in the physical structure of the gate, which is a research faculty on the inside run by Pandora, which I believe is run by the U.N. People die when they go THROUGH the gate, or past it. You saw it on a map briefly in a previous episode, the gate is a thick structure that also functions as a building, then there is a no man's land past it, which people also refer to as Hell's gate
Jan 22, 2014 10:41 PM

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that girl in the end.... C.C????!!!!
Feb 22, 2014 9:33 AM

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I am glad I am not the only one who didn't understand what was going on...
That's what I got:
Ok Nick and Hei had the same power and very similar pasts and dreams. That's why Nick felt so familiar to him and thought that Hei would understand his dream. But did Nick already know that Hei was a contractor and did he die at the end? Also had Hei something to do with Nick's dream getting fulfilled, that's why he said to him "so, you believed in my dream?" ????
The CIA girl was killed by Nick for trying to steal the meteor.
The Indian girl found what she was looking for but I don't really care what's that to be honest. I found her quite annoying.
I think Yin made Hei realize that people were coming and alarmed him. That's why he thanked her.
Also one of my theories is that the meteor thing helps you find what you lost (Nick and Hei saw the real stars, Hei was seeing his sister, Nick got his wish at the end...) and Hei's sister was connected with that thing somehow in past...??????
Well anyways, it was a cool arc. I am also glad to see Yin's past at the next episode! I like her very much so far :)
Mar 12, 2014 10:14 PM

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dafuq happened

regardless i love hei so much
Apr 6, 2014 8:04 AM
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all those feels though
Jun 7, 2014 9:39 PM

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my understanding of what happened is that the meteor shard helps the people with powers unlock their full potential. as mentioned in other episodes, contractors loose their feelings because feelings make it harder to control powers and the shard gives it back it seems. Hei and Nick had similar dreams so while consumed by their power they entered an alternate state of existance in which their dreams could be realized. Nick who was more obsessed with his dream got consumed by it but Hei ws brought back to reality because he saw Yin's weird water thing.
Jul 6, 2014 7:00 AM

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lol the Indian girls def wanted the D
+at the it looked like C.C.
The meteor thing def confused me a little bit This arc was pretty good We kind of got a little background information on Hei
wonder who this new girl is O_O
she's going to want the D as well >.>
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Jul 19, 2014 2:13 PM

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Yup ^^
Jul 31, 2014 12:40 PM

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Still guessing on whats actually going on in the series, but this arc was still very good. Feel like the series is picking up.
Aug 27, 2014 6:39 PM

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Hei is a player, all the chicks want him, none can have him.
Sep 12, 2014 2:06 PM

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A love interest? I LOL'ed.
Damn, this arc was so nice (even though I understood like 30% of it). I really liked Nick ;v;

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WTF just happened? I think that my IQ is too low to understand this show. ^^;

SAMEEEE.
Sep 22, 2014 12:44 AM

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LOAD said:
A love interest? I LOL'ed.
Damn, this arc was so nice (even though I understood like 30% of it). I really liked Nick ;v;

mayukachan said:
WTF just happened? I think that my IQ is too low to understand this show. ^^;

SAMEEEE.


Haha, I came in here expecting to feel real stupid for being confused as fuck but it seems everyone else is in the same boat. I feel better now :)
Nov 1, 2014 2:01 AM

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that was a sick ep.
that renumeration of putting the shows upside down is a cool idea. love those character traits.
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy."
Nov 19, 2014 10:20 AM

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Why all the girls in each story were easily attached to Hei.
Jan 9, 2015 3:12 PM

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At the end I was like "Is that you C.C. ?"
Finally, the girl from the OP make her appereance.
Jan 9, 2015 3:15 PM

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It was painful to watch the girl getting attached to Hei when you know how he is.
Finally,the girl from the OP make her appereance. I was like "Is that you C.C. ?"
Oct 3, 2015 4:38 AM
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i love this episode nick's power and hei went in to overload but nick's strong desires (his wish) made him a child and summon his sister to the gate and transformed her as well then they both went out in to space but gate make's anything vanish that try to reach out side so i think nick and his sister died.

hei's power was used here but nick didn't want to hurt him so he was safe .. the Indian girl found her heart which was lost (she love hei) but hei is missing so her price was that :3

the girl who appeared in front of hei when nick shot hei is hei's sister hei's strong desire that "she is always there for me" or some thought that was in his mind made it :3
this is awesome every puzzle is starting to make sense :3 i love hei :3
Nov 28, 2015 2:49 AM
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I laughed when he reverted back from being a kid. That was cute.
Dec 8, 2015 4:11 AM
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My 2 cents on Nick. He died. Did we all see the crater hei woke up in? That was from Nick exploded into a big release of energy. Hei was protected because he was between the two dimensions; able to witness both but interact with neither (tranxed in the real world, tripping balls with nicks). Just an idea but it's my interpretation. I'm just watching this for the first time really dig the series so far.
Jan 10, 2016 12:03 PM

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Feel like I have to re-watch the last 2 episodes over again since I'm so lost on what happened. No more multitasking while watching this show. Gotta be 100% focused while watching since this seems like a show you have to watch a little bit more interpretatively than thea average anime
Mar 3, 2016 2:54 PM

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I guess I was wrong, Mina didn't die.

Weird ending to this arc...Well at least we got a little bit of insight on Hei's past.
Mar 7, 2016 6:06 AM

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The more answers we get the more questions it raises, this stuff gets trippy.
May 20, 2016 6:06 AM
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guess i have to admit it but i didn't understand what was going on in this one actually. all i can say is that the soundtrack and atmosphere used in this was superb. furthermore it looks like all events happening there have to do something with the fact that the hell gate can give people what they want from it if an equal price is paid for it.

another point to mention is that i faintly got the imagination of nick being the same person as li only with the difference in his outer appearance. maybe he's the li from a parallel universe or something like that. this could also be connected to the gate as i've mentioned already.
May 26, 2016 8:06 AM

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Not understanding something in this show is a completely different feeling than not understanding something in Peguindrum. This arc was good. The indian chick was kinda useless though
Jun 2, 2016 6:50 PM

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Hope they explain everything that has to be explained so that I can reminisce this arc back and put it right back to my understanding of the show like a puzzle
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