| It's useless saying anything since people will justify it saying that "it's just fiction". Also as some others have pointed out there's plenty of girls who fetishize anime boys including shotas so it's not just men. Avoiding ecchi and dropping anime if you come across such content outside of ecchi is the only thing that can be done. |
| I really don't have this issue since i actually make an effort to avoid shows with fanservice since i'm not too big of a fan. All i can really say is that dropping these kinds of shows is obvious solution idk lmao. |
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| Target demographics are the best way to sell any product and the Japanese are intelligent to utilize it. Instead of complaining about series made for men, I advise watching a shoujo or josei made for you instead. Lolis are goated. 😭 |
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| just learn to distinguish anime from real life and ur good |
rohan121 said: Exceptionally based take. Thank you for thinking for yourself.Target demographics are the best way to sell any product and the Japanese are intelligent to utilize it. Instead of complaining about series made for men, I advise watching a shoujo or josei made for you instead. Lolis are goated. 😭 |
| Stop getting worked up about fiction, people. It's different from reality. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to burning my barbies and yelling about how every piece of western media is virtue signaling, woke, deep state, globalist propaganda designed by (((them))) to destroy western civilization and white men. I am very rational. |
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| Kinda weird for someone who watched only 20 anime to codemn the medium as a whole.Anyway you are free to drop a series if it has something you don't like and you can always see what the contents of a show are also you can have whatever theme you want in the show it's on the person who wrote the story how he will use it sometimes it will be good sometimes it will be bad.The rest sounds like a ''you'' problem any person who is right in the head and mature enough can tell the difference between a draw and real life if you can't do this that's your problem. |
| I think trying to wish certain types of people out of existence is a bit more creepy, myself. Unless it's some group which is actually going out and harming others rather than just watching telly. It's not hard to tell whether the thing you're about to watch is ecchi (or an old shoujo which takes the view that there's nothing special about underwear, everyone wears it). |
soupisgod said: I see a show and think "aw these characters look fun and adorable, must be a good feeling show!" then i watch the show and within 5 minutes they're showing me panty shots of a 10 year old. Any person with an active conscience would see that the colorful sparkly visuals and music of these shows are just a distraction from the blatant sexualization of female children. And for the viewing pleasure of majority - disgusting creepy males. Women who watch anime are expected to simply gloss over the constant objectification, even of CHILDREN, so they're not criticized as "antis" or "feminists". Can you believe it? As if you have to be some extreme feminist to not want to see depictions of 10 and 12 year olds showing their panties and being put in sexualized situations for the stimulation of creeper weirdos. Seeing this stuff actually makes me nauseous now. I wish there were an anime catalog that only showed shows that didn't have that awful female-dehumanizing crap in it. Instead I have to weed through endless shows catering to the pedo fantasy before I can find something to watch. Creepy men have absolutely ruined anime. And it scares me what young girls subconsciously internalize when they're watching that crap and realize there are freaks who look at girls sexually even at age 10 because of the sick freaks that put this stuff in their shows. A word of caution.. I would be careful expressing this particular criticism here.. As some community members have expressed that the moderators seem to have a more.. favorable view on the type of content you're criticizing.. And as such, may choose to sanction you with a warning or suspend your account.. |
| If you don't like those anime, then don't watch it.... it is not that hard. I personally don't like lolis and besides just some exceptions most of the animes I have watched don't have lolis in any sexualized ways. What I mean by this, is that there are always animes that don't have lolis at their center Now about the "morality" of this... I personally don't like it, and can't understand people that watch lolis hentai or lewds, but I can't say they have ruined anything, mainly because lolis have been always there. They may have become more recognizable with the time, but usually there is always that small girl going around. The. thing about lolicons is that if this is "punishable" or just "socially hated" preference, it not only ignores petite women that exists in the world and are full grown women, it also puts on the table judging people for stuff they like to in virtual worlds: - Are people that kill civilians as a joke on video games psychopaths? - What about people that like to choose the "bad path" on video games, are they evil? - Are people that watch anime/shows with violent deaths also psychopaths that enjoy watching people suffer? - And so on and on... Like other user already have said, this is fictional space, and we can't just judge people because of that we like it or not. We need to make a difference between fiction and reality. And if you are always having sexualized girls in your animes... that's on you, you like those anime and watch them, there are plenty of others that doesnt have that. Sylpheline said: Why people talk about law she never said anything about legality of such content...its not a question that anime fans are qualified to judge...its lawmakers of every country that are the only right to make such decision so its kind of pointless to argues its legality here since its different in every country anyway and we arent going to change here whats Japan decides to be legal content or not. Also...why so many insults her? She just criticized a aspect of anime she dislikes. People do that all the time here and usually nobody complains they do. She is free to dislike it and criticize it without being uselessly insulted by overly defensive people...she is just ranting not calling for censorship why every one is so tense? I totally agree in that she has the right to have and opinion, and any other offenses are out of the line. I think people are over reacting because we know that after the Social Justice Warriors and the so called "Progressives" destroyed the main entertainment media (western shows, movies and games), anime and Japanese media will be next. There are already some push towards this and anime have become such a relevant topic that it is imposible that the attention seekers will come here eventually (not saying OP, you know the kind of people Im referring). Still it is an overreaction and we must always reply without offenses, otherwise it is just fuel for anyone wanting to change anime "SEE? anime fans are violent fascist, pedophiles and misogonist! Change anime now!" About the law, it was the first thing I think about when I read the OP, because pedophile is pure evil act so laws are the first thing that comes to mind. That's why I think everyone just start referring and talking about laws, if someone that watches/enjoys lolis fan-service or is just a lolicon is a pedophile, then he is a criminal. Same could be applied if we talk about men that like Japanese porn where women are "please stop!", if we consider them rapist then of course we will want to apply laws to them, because those are evil acts. And Im not saying it is ok to talk about laws on this topic, but I think this is the reason why many people just start talking about them |
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inim said:
Lol yeah, pretty much this^. Nothing to add here, really. |
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KenaiPhoenix said: I think it's purely the way she phrased it. I mean come on, look at the title.I totally agree in that she has the right to have and opinion, and any other offenses are out of the line. I think people are over reacting because we know that after the Social Justice Warriors and the so called "Progressives" destroyed the main entertainment media (western shows, movies and games), anime and Japanese media will be next. There are already some push towards this and anime have become such a relevant topic that it is imposible that the attention seekers will come here eventually (not saying OP, you know the kind of people Im referring). Still it is an overreaction and we must always reply without offenses, otherwise it is just fuel for anyone wanting to change anime "SEE? anime fans are violent fascist, pedophiles and misogonist! Change anime now!" it seems like her arguments are coming from a "moral high ground" which is why people who think differently may see it as an attack on them personally. people don't understand this. how exactly you argue a point is FAR more important than what you are arguing for or against in winning people's favour. these days, people suck at persuasive writing. their writing is optimized to get a ton of reaction, instead of be actually convincing. threads like this always end with "the people who agree and the people who disagree" no one ever changes their mind. |
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KenaiPhoenix said: A fetish, or if you prefer that more judgemental wording, a medical condition is neither evil nor punishable. Everybody is completely free to choose any fetish, including illegal ones, as long as it's not acted out in the real world and on other people. For example there's a relatively large group of people who fetishize sex with amputees, love domination plays, lick feet and whatnot. That's all fine as long it's fantasy or a mutual agreed upon game between adults. Pedo criminals, though, are criminal because society agreed children can't "mutually agree" because they are not mature enough. Correctly so. This is what makes the fetish special, that there is no real world option to act on it society considers legal. But as long as it's done in non-photo-realistic art or your head, i personally don't care about any fetish. None of my business what crumbles other people's cookie.because pedophile is pure evil act so laws are the first thing that comes to mind. That's why I think everyone just start referring and talking about laws, if someone that watches/enjoys lolis fan-service or is just a lolicon is a pedophile, then he is a criminal. KenaiPhoenix said: And what law you think applies to a cartoon raping another cartoon? Please cite the paragraph.Same could be applied if we talk about men that like Japanese porn where women are "please stop!", if we consider them rapist then of course we will want to apply laws to them, because those are evil acts. And Im not saying it is ok to talk about laws on this topic, but I think this is the reason why many people just start talking about them Always remember that a masterpiece such as Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend (1989) and it's sequels (which up the ante further) are perfectly legal in the EU. And it really has it all, including but not limited to dismemberment, underage rape, and sexualized violence. Enjoy the show. Next time there's a panty shot, tell yourself it could be so much worse and still society considers it just ok. |
inimJul 28, 2023 8:11 AM
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| Usually these anime do have some sort of ecchi tag to them if it's showing perverse shots. I'm surprised the one you might have watched didn't? |
| Go away tourist nobody cares about you "opinions" |
imagine not liking hot anime girls half dressed smh |
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| I should start my post with the disclaimer that I've seen people complain about loli fanservice...only to find out that they have a ton of loli and shota hentai on their watch list, so forgive me if I'm a little skeptical (not jut at OP, but anyone who strongly agrees with them). There is this assumption that only men are creepy. My experience on MAL suggests that women can be just as, if not MORE so when it comes to enjoying "fan service" of underage characters. Although it seems that "fujoshi" consume most of their content in manga form, in what is called doujinshi. Now, as people have said, you can always choose to avoid those shows. One great thing about anime is that there is always a series for everyone. Just avoid series with the ecchi+shounen tag and you should be able to avoid the vast majority of those shows. |
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| If anime fans can't sexualize real children, they'll create fictional ones to sexualize instead. It's just accepted within the fandom that it's perfectly okay to create underaged characters for the express purpose of fantasizing about their pedophilic habits. |
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| I agree with you for the most part OP, though I'd argue people who watch anime in general are fucking creeps, look at how many female weebs also lust over anime dudes who are canonically minors, sometimes even shotas. lol |
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Tylaen said: If anime fans can't sexualize real children, they'll create fictional ones to sexualize instead. It's just accepted within the fandom that it's perfectly okay to create underaged characters for the express purpose of fantasizing about their pedophilic habits. "If GTA fans can't kill real people, they'll just kill fictional ones instead. It's just accepted within the fandom that it's perfectly okay to kill fictional characters for the express purpose of fantasizing about their murderous habits." some people in the west are suffering from a sad case of being unable to separate fiction from reality. |
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iDensity said: It's always fun to see someone versed in internet culture, where GTA is vomited up akin to an involuntary reaction whenever their fetish is targeted, always forgetting the inherent differences between the two. It's unfathomable that to ones such as you that the act of creation is far removed from the act of destruction, as well as the sexual aspect but don't let me stop you. Masturbate away, guy!Tylaen said: If anime fans can't sexualize real children, they'll create fictional ones to sexualize instead. It's just accepted within the fandom that it's perfectly okay to create underaged characters for the express purpose of fantasizing about their pedophilic habits. "If GTA fans can't kill real people, they'll just kill fictional ones instead. It's just accepted within the fandom that it's perfectly okay to kill fictional characters for the express purpose of fantasizing about their murderous habits." |
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Tylaen said: i respect this post for actually being honest and not deflecting with some "if you don't like it don't watch it" BS.If anime fans can't sexualize real children, they'll create fictional ones to sexualize instead. It's just accepted within the fandom that it's perfectly okay to create underaged characters for the express purpose of fantasizing about their pedophilic habits. Mod Edit: Removed abuse |
KayKimiiJul 28, 2023 8:58 AM
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soupisgod said: The, uh, "Don't like, don't watch" comments are always pointless in any thread.Tylaen said: i respect this post for actually being honest and not deflecting with some "if you don't like it don't watch it" BS.If anime fans can't sexualize real children, they'll create fictional ones to sexualize instead. It's just accepted within the fandom that it's perfectly okay to create underaged characters for the express purpose of fantasizing about their pedophilic habits. |
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