| I hardly if ever posted in Current Events. However, I would sometimes scan Current Events to get a feel of what the big topics were. I would lurk certain threads and pick up many opinions. While some threads would perhaps get a little out of hand, I did actually appreciate every conversation I saw that ended on at least a neutral note. I would smile every time I'd see somewhere among the chaos "Oh, I didn't know that". Or maybe they wouldn't admit that, but I could tell a lot of people were learning something here and there. Rest in Peace, Current Events. |
| Does anyone want to tell me what this "Current Events" was? I seem to be out of the loop. |
| It's a pity that CE was closed. The sub offers you a chance to be an informed and well-rounded person but you don't take it. Then some lame mods have a notion that you are only capable of discussing pokemon with other nerds and you're like saying 'wow that's totally me!' If you can't handle some words from some strangers on the internet, then frankly you're unsuitable and should stay away from the internet. Go live under a rock with your teddy bears. |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
| I will pretend that I did not see the argument between the top thread makers in CD and CE. And yes, every piece of art is inherently political. Being anti-X is a political stance, even if X=sculpture. 149597871 said: Meusnier said: A single hour a day should be enough to close all threads in CD and CE that are breaking rules. But asking anyone to spend more time than that for unpaid work seems unreasonable to me. I struggle to understand why it is still unpaid work, though. At the very least, crowdfunding exists. We are talking about a community of over a thousand users. It should not be that difficult, but again, these matters are not up to me to decide. I think that the basic answer is that the ones in charge of MAL are not very interested about making the forum experience of users any better, and that includes moderators who still have rather primitive tools (not only here; IRC in 2021?). QPR said: Meusnier said: If becoming a moderator did not imply being a NEET and "idling on IRC most of the time", this place could have been saved. A single hour a day should be enough to close all threads in CD and CE that are breaking rules. But asking anyone to spend more time than that for unpaid work seems unreasonable to me. I don't think they even do that. It seems the mods don't act unless something is reported. Posts that were obviously against the rules stayed up for days. You'd just need a couple of mods each in the Euro, NA/SA and Asia/Aus time zones. I was a global admin on a games forum and I read every single post, a mod could have done that in CE although my forum had a latest post page which made this very easy. I think its probably more to do with the Japanese buying in and wanting nothing to do with certain types of politics. You are right, they mostly act on report, but they have a lot of other tasks too, and are also supposed to moderate other boards: Actively moderating (reading through new and existing threads without abuse reports) 2-4 main discussion boards, including Anime Discussion and/or Casual Discussion. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1435506#msg42500985 This is quite likely. Swiggy said: I hardly if ever posted in Current Events. However, I would sometimes scan Current Events to get a feel of what the big topics were. I would lurk certain threads and pick up many opinions. While some threads would perhaps get a little out of hand, I did actually appreciate every conversation I saw that ended on at least a neutral note. I would smile every time I'd see somewhere among the chaos "Oh, I didn't know that". Or maybe they wouldn't admit that, but I could tell a lot of people were learning something here and there. Rest in Peace, Current Events. Indeed, it was not all that bad as some say, and permitted one to have access to news they would typically not read by themselves. NextUniverse said: Does anyone want to tell me what this "Current Events" was? I seem to be out of the loop. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1945092 vuxk said: It's a pity that CE was closed. The sub offers you a chance to be an informed and well-rounded person but you don't take it. Then some lame mods have a notion that you are only capable of discussing pokemon with other nerds and you're like saying 'wow that's totally me!' If you can't handle some words from some strangers on the internet, then frankly you're unsuitable and should stay away from the internet. Go live under a rock with your teddy bears. It should come out obvious that on an anime website, you are only allowed to speak about anime, including in your comments and private messages. |
| As it turns out, online anime fans and politics don't mix well together. Also I'll pay money to see it get renamed to past events now that nothing in it is current anymore |
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Desolated said: Nearly everything in life is political. As ling as there are 2 individuals interacting with each other, it will always have some certain extent of politics. Meusnier said: And yes, every piece of art is inherently political. Being anti-X is a political stance, even if X=sculpture. This culture of politicization is repugnant. Not everything is politicial, it may have social views you dislike, but not political. |
RuneRem said: Desolated said: Nearly everything in life is political. As long as there are 2 individuals interacting with each other, it will always have some certain extent of politics. Meusnier said: And yes, every piece of art is inherently political. Being anti-X is a political stance, even if X=sculpture. This culture of politicization is repugnant. Not everything is politicial, it may have social views you dislike, but not political. Having social views mean that you either condone or condemn the status quo, which is political for inaction is action. There is not way escaping it. When Dickens, Hugo or Zola describe the life of some of the poorest people in their respective countries, their paintings have a political meaning too; a text does not need to explicitly advocate for precise political changes to be political. For example, both Hugo's awful The Last Day of a Condemned Man and Stendhal's The Red and the Black advocate against the death penalty, but the latter does it in a subtler way than the former. Besides those obvious examples, the very existence of art is political. Why does the government allow for the existence of poets, musicians and painters? We only need of farmers, soldiers, gardeners, arms dealers, personal drivers, kidnappers, zoo keepers, prison keepers, door keepers, bankers, software developers, grasshoppers, grim reapers, firemen, policemen, craftsmen, patrolmen, handymen, councilmen, pitchmen, middlemen, anchormen, conmen, engineers, prisoners, graphic designers, coroners, poisoners, waggoners, questioners, falconers, seasoners, commoners, criminals, cardinals, marginals, physicians, clinicians, obstetricians, geriatricians, pediatricians, statisticians, magicians, mathematicians and politicians! |
| I will miss reading topics about events in my country it was funny to see the views of people from other parts of the world. @Meusnier Is a banana on a wall political. Because apparently this is art. Serious answer only please I'm actually curious. |
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Nubiellee said: Considering "a banana on a wall" is a satire about the arbitrarity behind the value assigned both to material goods and art, I don't know how it could not be political.I will miss reading topics about events in my country it was funny to see the views of people from other parts of the world. @Meusnier Is a banana on a wall political. Because apparently this is art. Serious answer only please I'm actually curious. |
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Kosmonaut said: Damn, I didn't see it that way! Thank you for the answer.Nubiellee said: Considering "a banana on a wall" is a satire about the arbitrarity behind the value assigned both to material goods and art, I don't know how it could not be political.I will miss reading topics about events in my country it was funny to see the views of people from other parts of the world. @Meusnier Is a banana on a wall political. Because apparently this is art. Serious answer only please I'm actually curious. |
| Life is a despicable endurance race |
| I never looked through Current Events much, but I learned some interesting things from articles people would post |
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| I enjoyed current events since the discussions rarely if ever became an echo chamber. I do not mind the shift to just move it to casual discussion. |
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Curseee said: Crow_Black said: Fallacy of divisionMAL is an anime site not a political larping site. Gween_Gween said: Ad hominemIt is his only way to socialize, let him be Desolated said: What about youBut you yourself also keep posting the anti-woke sentiment, which is to say, also political in nature. I found it pretty hypocritical. Yea im ad hominem him not like I care lmao |
| Once upon a time, I liked occasionally posting in C.E, but got turned off by users who would force their views continuously over and over, no matter how related to the topic at hand, doing mental olympics to say it was all right wingers or all left wingers fault or related buzzwords like sjws. I'd have preferred these users removed than the forum being taken down as I did like neutral discussion. It was ruined by the aforementioned people because their tunnel vision mindset meant every topic disintegrated into long essays of arguing about politics. Gets boring as fuck quickly when you see the same user posting obvious bait in the form of a broad generalising statement just waiting to type out a few full paragraphs as soon as an user calls it dumb, so they can swing their e-penis around and act like they are intellectuals on an anime forum. Which ironically gives the opposite impression to anyone else reading their rubbish. Before this, I liked C.E. thank you to all the normal non-political users who were there. |
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Curseee said: Well his argument implies that every forum discussion should be only about anime. I'm not only "no u" him to be fair, I also said that he basically also advocates closing FG/Games/Music/CDCrow_Black said: Fallacy of divisionMAL is an anime site not a political larping site. Gween_Gween said: Ad hominemIt is his only way to socialize, let him be Desolated said: What about youBut you yourself also keep posting the anti-woke sentiment, which is to say, also political in nature. I found it pretty hypocritical. |
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| RIP indeed. Except, people will STILL talk about what is going on in the world. |
| The one thing I liked in ce was the sports discussion. But that's here now in casual discussion so.. it's not a loss at all |
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| I enjoyed seeing a few headlines from time to time that wouldn't have appeared in my regular feed. |
Nubiellee said: I will miss reading topics about events in my country it was funny to see the views of people from other parts of the world. @Meusnier Is a banana on a wall political. Because apparently this is art. Serious answer only please I'm actually curious. A lazy argument would be to re-use what I wrote before and argue say that the mere fact that the "artist" below put a banana on a wall and expected to sell it for +$100,000 says a lot about the current state of the art market, which has become nothing else than a clique of snobs who partake in money laundering on a daily basis. And making such a statement is inherently political.  https://news.artnet.com/market/maurizio-cattelan-banana-art-basel-miami-beach-1722516 Now, the issue with Ready-Made and art installations is that some were pushed a little too far and were already obsolete when Marcel Duchamp was still breathing to see his copycats swarm every where. I doubt that it makes any sense taking an already existent Ready-Made, change its title and call it a new piece of art. It is true that the price of art works is arbitrary (how much is Mona Lisa? One billion euros? A hundred billion euros?), and selling a taped banana for $120,000 is perhaps not more meaningful than selling a Picasso for a few dozens of million euros, but things become slightly more complicated when it comes to the meaning given to art. What does Cattelan say? “When we started to work together I had to fight to convince collectors one by one to buy his work. To be able to come back here at Art Basel Miami Beach…” he trailed off, clearly emotional. Cattelan has been working on the idea for Comedian for about a year, first creating versions in bronze and resin. Somehow, they were lacking. “Wherever I was traveling I had this banana on the wall. I couldn’t figure out how to finish it,” Cattelan told me when Perrotin handed me the phone with him on the line. “In the end, one day I woke up and I said ‘the banana is supposed to be a banana.'” The logic of Ready-Made taken ad nauseam in this last sentence: a=a... At the level of 4chan jokes on K-on and Ginga. In this example, the art in itself is a tautology for its own creator, and in particular, an idea of political meaning (or even of meaning) seems hard to defend. However, a piece of art does not live ex nihilo, so using the previous analysis, we can deduce that independently of the will of the creator, political meaning will be formed. Cynically, one could also claim that the artist allows a great quantity of fools such as the art critics and the art dealers to keep existing, which is political too. Less cynically, considering that any art critique is art itself (as Wilde argued in The Critic as an Artist for example, and even placed above the art it criticizes), a piece of art permits art to continue existing, which is another political statement. To take another non-artistic (unless...) example, the work of a scientist has a political meaning since any line he will write implies that he has received money form either the government or a given organisation, and those always aim at creating useful science, which is a very noble yet political aim: "a science is said to be useful if its development tends to accentuate the existing inequalities in the distribution of wealth, or more directly promotes the destruction of human life." (Hardy, A Mathematician's Apology). But what about Galois? He did not receive any money indeed, but in his case, it suffices to read what he says of the scientific practice of his time to see how political his work was. |
| CE was shit. Only good thing to come out of it was the Pro Wrestling thread. A lone island oasis surrounded by a sea of shit. |
| The ever-moving goal-post of removing political speech from the forum never ceases to amaze. |
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| I rarely posted there despite being quite more interested and involved in discussing real world factional politics, geopolitics & international affairs/IR theory, history and such actively with people in the physical world and online both in the past compared to my current self (where I've been long since disillusioned in one sense or another with aspects of all ideologies and doctrines/presently existing and former governments/virtually any past or current party or faction you can name), but I did want to register my objection. I'm vehemently opposed to this decision and the entire rationale used to justify it. Moreover, I'm equally opposed to what it signifies - I really abhor the fanatical and puritanical drive increasingly observed in online spaces to purge the internet of places where people have varied colorful opinions and may actively disagree, even staunchly or not always productively/constructively so, under the banner of combatting "toxicity" - an artificial boogeyman if there ever was one which doesn't need to be combatted in this sense in any way. But also, I find the comments of some celebrating the removal of a sub-forum just because they themselves: A) Weren't interested in reading it B) Didn't agree with the majority of posts and views they did happen to read there C) Didn't find it germane to their own personal interaction with the site Just outright despicable. I don't read 99.9%+ of posts on this forum. Do I believe and advocate they should be purged and wiped? No. As much as I find these comments themselves disgusting, neither do I believe that they should be removed/censored, because that is the entire point. The inability of some to tolerate the existence of any worldview which contradicts their own and instead advocate it be liquidated from the virtual space is such a tribal element of humanity that only serves to underscore every day why events incited by mob mentality even in the 3D world continue to recur. Closed minded as hell. If you don't like something, don't agree with it, aren't interested in it, etc. simply move on and don't read it. Just like changing the TV channel or clicking away from the video player. The easiest solution in the world but people continually demonstrate by their words and actions they would rather advocate for other groups of people to be punished in some way for daring to express themselves in a way they take issue with. If there were a hypothetical sub-forum I never read nor posted in and knew with damn near certainty that I would very likely never read or post in it titled "Discussion of U.S. Tax Code and Miscellaneous Bureaucratic and Financial Minutiae", I still wouldn't support its banning, abolition, or dissolution. And let's say on a one in a million chance I did happen to read it and found every single thread topic and post therein to be either the most disagreeable vile thing ever written, the stupidest thing ever written, or a combination of the two. I still wouldn't support any of the aforementioned punitive actions against it, call for them, cheer for them, and be happy and celebrate other people having their space and venue destroyed. It's an unfathomable level of pettiness and intolerance to me, I suppose. What in the world does someone care if other people are talking about things you aren't interested in and/or don't agree with somewhere else? Don't read it! Don't go there! It's the difference between me reading those posts I'm referring to and disagreeing 100%, even criticizing and arguing against them, which is fine, versus pushing for their vanishing. Which is a breach and breakdown of civil discourse more damaging, disruptive, and dangerous in every sense than anything anyone ever posted on there, including any puerile personal ad-hominem or street language. It's not that there aren't even much more consequential, far-reaching, and devastating examples of this online and offline than this which is relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things, but it's what the vocal proponents of this decision stand for that's so troubling. I realize full well that at least partially the sub-forum was removed/archived for other, ostensibly workload-related administrative and technical reasons, but the people lauding this for the crudest and most base reasons shouldn't be emboldened to continue to feel they will get their way running roughshod over this site, imposing their preferences and prejudices on others. It's a disgrace. |
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WatchTillTandava said: Preach.I rarely posted there despite being quite more interested and involved in discussing real world factional politics, geopolitics & international affairs/IR theory, history and such actively with people in the physical world and online both in the past compared to my current self (where I've been long since disillusioned in one sense or another with aspects of all ideologies and doctrines/presently existing and former governments/virtually any past or current party or faction you can name), but I did want to register my objection. I'm vehemently opposed to this decision and the entire rationale used to justify it. Moreover, I'm equally opposed to what it signifies - I really abhor the fanatical and puritanical drive increasingly observed in online spaces to purge the internet of places where people have varied colorful opinions and may actively disagree, even staunchly or not always productively/constructively so, under the banner of combatting "toxicity" - an artificial boogeyman if there ever was one which doesn't need to be combatted in this sense in any way. But also, I find the comments of some celebrating the removal of a sub-forum just because they themselves: A) Weren't interested in reading it B) Didn't agree with the majority of posts and views they did happen to read there C) Didn't find it germane to their own personal interaction with the site Just outright despicable. I don't read 99.9%+ of posts on this forum. Do I believe and advocate they should be purged and wiped? No. As much as I find these comments themselves disgusting, neither do I believe that they should be removed/censored, because that is the entire point. The inability of some to tolerate the existence of any worldview which contradicts their own and instead advocate it be liquidated from the virtual space is such a tribal element of humanity that only serves to underscore every day why events incited by mob mentality even in the 3D world continue to recur. Closed minded as hell. If you don't like something, don't agree with it, aren't interested in it, etc. simply move on and don't read it. Just like changing the TV channel or clicking away from the video player. The easiest solution in the world but people continually demonstrate by their words and actions they would rather advocate for other groups of people to be punished in some way for daring to express themselves in a way they take issue with. It's not that there aren't even much more consequential, far-reaching, and devastating examples of this online and offline than this which is relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things, but it's what the vocal proponents of this decision stand for that's so troubling. I realize full well that at least partially the sub-forum was removed/archived for other, ostensibly workload-related administrative and technical reasons, but the people lauding this for the crudest and most base reasons shouldn't be emboldened continue to feel they will get their way running roughshod over this site, imposing their preferences and prejudices on others. It's a disgrace. It's simply just if you don't like it, don't go there. These people who celebrates the death of CE despite not going there are just beyond me. |
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WatchTillTandava said: I rarely posted there despite being quite more interested and involved in discussing real world factional politics, geopolitics & international affairs/IR theory, history and such actively with people in the physical world and online both in the past compared to my current self (where I've been long since disillusioned in one sense or another with aspects of all ideologies and doctrines/presently existing and former governments/virtually any past or current party or faction you can name), but I did want to register my objection. I'm vehemently opposed to this decision and the entire rationale used to justify it. Moreover, I'm equally opposed to what it signifies - I really abhor the fanatical and puritanical drive increasingly observed in online spaces to purge the internet of places where people have varied colorful opinions and may actively disagree, even staunchly or not always productively/constructively so, under the banner of combatting "toxicity" - an artificial boogeyman if there ever was one which doesn't need to be combatted in this sense in any way. But also, I find the comments of some celebrating the removal of a sub-forum just because they themselves: A) Weren't interested in reading it B) Didn't agree with the majority of posts and views they did happen to read there C) Didn't find it germane to their own personal interaction with the site Just outright despicable. I don't read 99.9%+ of posts on this forum. Do I believe and advocate they should be purged and wiped? No. As much as I find these comments themselves disgusting, neither do I believe that they should be removed/censored, because that is the entire point. The inability of some to tolerate the existence of any worldview which contradicts their own and instead advocate it be liquidated from the virtual space is such a tribal element of humanity that only serves to underscore every day why events incited by mob mentality even in the 3D world continue to recur. Closed minded as hell. If you don't like something, don't agree with it, aren't interested in it, etc. simply move on and don't read it. Just like changing the TV channel or clicking away from the video player. The easiest solution in the world but people continually demonstrate by their words and actions they would rather advocate for other groups of people to be punished in some way for daring to express themselves in a way they take issue with. If there were a hypothetical sub-forum I never read nor posted in and knew with damn near certainty that I would very likely never read or post in it titled "Discussion of U.S. Tax Code and Miscellaneous Bureaucratic and Financial Minutiae", I still wouldn't support its banning, abolition, or dissolution. And let's say on a one in a million chance I did happen to read it and found every single thread topic and post therein to be either the most disagreeable vile thing ever written, the stupidest thing ever written, or a combination of the two. I still wouldn't support any of the aforementioned punitive actions against it, call for them, cheer for them, and be happy and celebrate other people having their space and venue destroyed. It's an unfathomable level of pettiness and intolerance to me, I suppose. What in the world does someone care if other people are talking about things you aren't interested in and/or don't agree with somewhere else? Don't read it! Don't go there! It's the difference between me reading those posts I'm referring to and disagreeing 100%, even criticizing and arguing against them, which is fine, versus pushing for their vanishing. Which is a breach and breakdown of civil discourse more damaging, disruptive, and dangerous in every sense than anything anyone ever posted on there, including any puerile personal ad-hominem or street language. It's not that there aren't even much more consequential, far-reaching, and devastating examples of this online and offline than this which is relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things, but it's what the vocal proponents of this decision stand for that's so troubling. I realize full well that at least partially the sub-forum was removed/archived for other, ostensibly workload-related administrative and technical reasons, but the people lauding this for the crudest and most base reasons shouldn't be emboldened to continue to feel they will get their way running roughshod over this site, imposing their preferences and prejudices on others. It's a disgrace. Thank you for taking the time to give us your detailed thoughts about it. The parts on toxicity and the last paragraph were especially well-written. However, I do not a minor disagreement with the middle stance that seems a little too general to me. The inability of some to tolerate the existence of any worldview which contradicts their own and instead advocate it be liquidated from the virtual space is such a tribal element of humanity that only serves to underscore every day why events incited by mob mentality even in the 3D world continue to recur. Closed minded as hell. If you don't like something, don't agree with it, aren't interested in it, etc. simply move on and don't read it. You cannot "simply move on" when people threaten to kill you (as a member of a given group or not), and I see no reason to tolerate the propaganda of Flat Earthers (to take a non-controversial example). You can try fighting it, but when people argue in bad faith and spread disinformation, should you really allow them to keep spamming their lies everywhere? This is the inability of MAL moderation to deal with such a problem that led to this poor decision. Nubiellee said: @Meusnier Very interesting thank you. I keep hearing about the money laundering thing that's messed up. I have to read more about this. You are very welcome. Needless to say, I was not completely serious about the money laundering part of the contemporary art market. |
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WatchTillTandava said: I rarely posted there despite being quite more interested and involved in discussing real world factional politics, geopolitics & international affairs/IR theory, history and such actively with people in the physical world and online both in the past compared to my current self (where I've been long since disillusioned in one sense or another with aspects of all ideologies and doctrines/presently existing and former governments/virtually any past or current party or faction you can name), but I did want to register my objection. I'm vehemently opposed to this decision and the entire rationale used to justify it. Moreover, I'm equally opposed to what it signifies - I really abhor the fanatical and puritanical drive increasingly observed in online spaces to purge the internet of places where people have varied colorful opinions and may actively disagree, even staunchly or not always productively/constructively so, under the banner of combatting "toxicity" - an artificial boogeyman if there ever was one which doesn't need to be combatted in this sense in any way. But also, I find the comments of some celebrating the removal of a sub-forum just because they themselves: A) Weren't interested in reading it B) Didn't agree with the majority of posts and views they did happen to read there C) Didn't find it germane to their own personal interaction with the site Just outright despicable. I don't read 99.9%+ of posts on this forum. Do I believe and advocate they should be purged and wiped? No. As much as I find these comments themselves disgusting, neither do I believe that they should be removed/censored, because that is the entire point. The inability of some to tolerate the existence of any worldview which contradicts their own and instead advocate it be liquidated from the virtual space is such a tribal element of humanity that only serves to underscore every day why events incited by mob mentality even in the 3D world continue to recur. Closed minded as hell. If you don't like something, don't agree with it, aren't interested in it, etc. simply move on and don't read it. Just like changing the TV channel or clicking away from the video player. The easiest solution in the world but people continually demonstrate by their words and actions they would rather advocate for other groups of people to be punished in some way for daring to express themselves in a way they take issue with. If there were a hypothetical sub-forum I never read nor posted in and knew with damn near certainty that I would very likely never read or post in it titled "Discussion of U.S. Tax Code and Miscellaneous Bureaucratic and Financial Minutiae", I still wouldn't support its banning, abolition, or dissolution. And let's say on a one in a million chance I did happen to read it and found every single thread topic and post therein to be either the most disagreeable vile thing ever written, the stupidest thing ever written, or a combination of the two. I still wouldn't support any of the aforementioned punitive actions against it, call for them, cheer for them, and be happy and celebrate other people having their space and venue destroyed. It's an unfathomable level of pettiness and intolerance to me, I suppose. What in the world does someone care if other people are talking about things you aren't interested in and/or don't agree with somewhere else? Don't read it! Don't go there! It's the difference between me reading those posts I'm referring to and disagreeing 100%, even criticizing and arguing against them, which is fine, versus pushing for their vanishing. Which is a breach and breakdown of civil discourse more damaging, disruptive, and dangerous in every sense than anything anyone ever posted on there, including any puerile personal ad-hominem or street language. It's not that there aren't even much more consequential, far-reaching, and devastating examples of this online and offline than this which is relatively trivial in the grand scheme of things, but it's what the vocal proponents of this decision stand for that's so troubling. I realize full well that at least partially the sub-forum was removed/archived for other, ostensibly workload-related administrative and technical reasons, but the people lauding this for the crudest and most base reasons shouldn't be emboldened to continue to feel they will get their way running roughshod over this site, imposing their preferences and prejudices on others. It's a disgrace. I'd give you a standing ovation for that. Seriously, it's a wonderful speech and deserves an award. |
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deg said: the moderators on some profile comments i read call it victory by the way, the moderators themselves want this to happen Less work is a victory for the commoners. Hurrah! Seeing this site die will be another victory I guess. |
deg said: the moderators on some profile comments i read call it victory by the way, the moderators themselves want this to happen Well moderators are generally pro-censorship, or else they wouldn't take the job. Just look at how Ardanaz boasts about his rule 7 suggestion, even though it ruined the forums. |
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deg said: Narmy said: Well moderators are generally pro-censorship, or else they wouldn't take the job. Just look at how Ardanaz boasts about his rule 7 suggestion, even though it ruined the forums. ive seen Ardanaz and NoLiferSoul implying its a victory for them so ye Let's think about this... They signed up to be a janitor and their job is to clean up this place. This is a fact. 1. Based on the premise, is it a victory for one to be an unpaid janitor? 2. Following (1), is it a victory to not doing what one's supposed to do? one needs to realize how pitiful they are. Case study: A and N are appointed to be a teacher and both are assigned a class. Several days later, the headmaster tells them: on second thought we don't really need you to actually teach the student here. We only need you to be around so this building looks like a school. I'm going to stop the class, let the student be junkies or whatever. I don't give a damn! A & N: hurray, victory! We don't give a damn either! Woohoo! |
| "You misunderstood from the very beginning. You just believed what you wanted to believe." Rei Ayanami |
| Coincidentally, MAL died the day general discussion split into CE and CD. |
| I think it is good that they closed it. Mainly used for posting news and stuff. And no real interesting discussions. It was really annoying at the times of US presidential elections when people fought each other and posted news supporting their favorite candidate. Bigger problem are the strict rules in Casual Discussion. All the interesting stuff is labelled as "controversial" and whly mostly for stuff like racism, gender-stuff and similar thins ... the mods seem to close ... there is "politics" and stuff like that ... mentioned as well - in the rules. Basically any thread can get closed with this. Depends on the mood of the mods I guess. I'll just stick to using MAL for my list. "Suggestions" forum is worthless cause barely any suggestions get accepted. Normal discussions are less interesting (if a lot of interesting stuff is not allowed). And I never liked pointless forum games and in anime-specific forums there mostly is war about the different taste (haters vs. fanboys). For just talking about anime and the plot/story ... every now and then ... the forum is nice. Have my other forums and specific people to talk to (directly ... on discord) though. I would not mind if they purely turned MAL forums into 100 percent anime: Only site suggestions, the anime specific forums ... and general anime (and manga) and anime news ... No forum games, casual discussion, musik, sports, etc. |
Luthandorius said: I think it is good that they closed it. Mainly used for posting news and stuff. And no real interesting discussions. It was really annoying at the times of US presidential elections when people fought each other and posted news supporting their favorite candidate. Bigger problem are the strict rules in Casual Discussion. All the interesting stuff is labelled as "controversial" and whly mostly for stuff like racism, gender-stuff and similar thins ... the mods seem to close ... there is "politics" and stuff like that ... mentioned as well - in the rules. Basically any thread can get closed with this. Depends on the mood of the mods I guess. I'll just stick to using MAL for my list. "Suggestions" forum is worthless cause barely any suggestions get accepted. Normal discussions are less interesting (if a lot of interesting stuff is not allowed). And I never liked pointless forum games and in anime-specific forums there mostly is war about the different taste (haters vs. fanboys). For just talking about anime and the plot/story ... every now and then ... the forum is nice. Have my other forums and specific people to talk to (directly ... on discord) though. I would not mind if they purely turned MAL forums into 100 percent anime: Only site suggestions, the anime specific forums ... and general anime (and manga) and anime news ... No forum games, casual discussion, musik, sports, etc. I agree that it was annoying to see too many Trump threads, but there were interesting discussions from time to time. At least it was nice learning about news you would have learnt about otherwise. Forum Games might have been closed much earlier, there is zero interest posting there. I see, this might happen in a near future considering the reasons given to close CD. By the way, I am not sure whether I am allowed to say that on CD, but I have created a club to replace CE, feel free to join if you are interested! Link. |
| I might check out your club later. I'm heavily into society/psychology/politics (in that order) - constantly looking for these in forums that actually are about other stuff. (Anime too often the fight between different tastes but since I'm in those forums anyway ... I look for other threads to interact with people. And not really registered in specific forums for politics and stuff.) Ideally I would have preferred - instead of posting tons of news threads that might be related to some contoversial thing - to have (in Casual Discusson) threads allowed about those things. But then different news in those threads. (= less threads). Like ... talking about gender and stuff and then using news/articles in the discussion. Instead of spammig news like: "x happeneed lol: <url here>" 1-line stuff and then people fighting in the thread. I can somewhat understand the moderation though. Big forums here and a lot of people active. (Personally I'm more in favor of less moderation and just letting the people argue until it gets too much out of hand and stuff gets reported.) well ... checking out that club later maybe. Edit: Do not want/need such a club atm. |
LuthandoriusSep 11, 2021 4:59 AM
| Maybe it became too political, hard to check/control RIP |
| I was gonna seriously wonder if they maybe wanted to unlock it hahah. Pretty please with sugar on top???? |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
| lmao you guys couldn't stay civilized and so this happened huh I bet ONLY one side is to blame just like always. Surely not the people who frequented it every single day for years. |
Thrashinuva said: lmao you guys couldn't stay civilized and so this happened huh I bet ONLY one side is to blame just like always. Surely not the people who frequented it every single day for years. ... Because people are behaving in a "civlised" (sic) way in the other boards, sure. Yes, moderators are to blame for not banning the obvious trolls that made for most of the thread derailments, and in the last months, not moderating this place at all. |
| >muscle memory still searching for C.E |
Meusnier said: Thrashinuva said: lmao you guys couldn't stay civilized and so this happened huh I bet ONLY one side is to blame just like always. Surely not the people who frequented it every single day for years. ... Because people are behaving in a "civlised" (sic) way in the other boards, sure. Yes, moderators are to blame for not banning the obvious trolls that made for most of the thread derailments, and in the last months, not moderating this place at all. Mods said it's been the worst place for years. Things being shit for the last few months is like the death knell. |
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