phantom346 said: Did you see episode 12 of Dragon Ball Super. Obviously Goku. correction. The entire universe, exept Earth As episode 12 showed us, DBS Earth was tired of being destroyed so it trained so hard since the end of DBZ that it turned pratically invincible. I also bet all the grass on the planet is now artificial Hopefully the Sun took measures too... |
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| Why would Saitama be stronger than me? |
| Of course Saitama is weaker than Goku, his supposed to be a satirical character pissing on the Marvel shitty super-heroes movies(some are cool don't flame me) and such. Still Saitama is awesome as he is in the manga. |
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phantom346 said: Did you see episode 12 of Dragon Ball Super. Obviously Goku. Going by how Saitama's power works, he should be able to counter EVEN THAT with a punch and still come out as a winner. Perhaps the only real way to kill Saitama is by using a time machine or time travel powers and kill him before he becomes strong, though that round-about way could be used against most OP characters anyway. |
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| A puppy is stronger than Goku. |
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| This isn't a very interesting matchup. Saitama vs. Deadpool would be more appropriate. I think that would be more likely to challenge Saitama's "one punch kill" status. |
Veldin461 said: SlayerJim said: Your also forgetting about Whis. Toriyama also said that if Goku and Arale fought each other Arale would probably win. Also Kid Buu is still stronger than Goku, he only beat him because Mr. Satan convinced people of Earth to give the spirit bomb energy otherwise he woudn't have stood a chance. That's atleast like 5 characters that are stronger than Goku. 2 things: 1st - When did Toriyama say that Arale probably would win against Goku? Maybe before starting writing DBZ? Not to say Arale is not even a real DB character =/ 2nd - Goku was weaker than kid Buu in his arc. In SSG form, goku is way stronger xD Given the fact that she appeared in the manga and even interacted with Goku. Yes, she is a real DB character. Also just like One-Punch Man, Arale has no kind of limiter at all. They both are parody characters with unlimited power. In fact that is one of the main points of both characters(Arale and Saitama). I would even go as far as say that if looking at feats Arale at this moment wins against Saitama. In the end they are parody characters with the sole reason of having infinite power in each of their worlds. It makes no sense of making discussions about power levels in a series where the main character has power level = Infinite. |
bigivelfhqOct 5, 2015 9:15 AM
xspookydarknessx said: The power of parody is boundless. This is all you need to know. Ofc it's Saitama. |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: Compare Saitama's training regime with results and Goku's training regime with his results. It's quite clear that Saitama is the absurd one so he wins automatically. and it's been only 3 yrs..since he started training |
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KrisOliverDalit said: FireEmblemIke24 said: Compare Saitama's training regime with results and Goku's training regime with his results. It's quite clear that Saitama is the absurd one so he wins automatically. and it's been only 3 yrs..since he started training At a certain point, the training stopped mattering altogether though. |
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Tlahuizcapante said: Veldin461 said: You are free to think that, but I'm just gonna post my opinion here... One Punch Man for me can be taken way more seriously than any of the most famous shounen series out there now Hope anime staff understand that, and we don't receive a ending, where Saitama finally will find a strong opponent and go full-out. It is not a main story line, even if people were deceived by first episode. It not will be a repeating "Where is my strong opponents?" line from Saitama. I even don't remember a further complaints from him. With one-cour |
RockerXD said: With one-cour |
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Tlahuizcapante said: RockerXD said: With one-cour With this pacing, I doubt it, then again, the manga did have a bunch of 5 page chapters sometimes |
RockerXD said: Tlahuizcapante said: With this pacing, I doubt it, then again, the manga did have a bunch of 5 page chapters sometimes Some of only-action based chapters, like So, they can find a way to animate until to the Boros arc. |
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RockerXD said: Tlahuizcapante said: With this pacing, I doubt it, then again, the manga did have a bunch of 5 page chapters sometimes The last punch in the opening seems to be the serious punch. I really doubt they will end this on Sea King arc xD |
| Leo Regulus punched through an enemy that had survived a point blank universal recreation attack... (Regulus is a human an he isnt the strongest of his own verse btw) does Saitama has a feat similar to that? an if we were mentioning divine beings then theres always Kami Tenchi who can crush multiverses between his fingers |
silversaintOct 5, 2015 11:55 PM
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| Goku can't even properly finish off his enemies :V |
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ichii_1 said: Fuck this thread, but you're talking out your ass here. That's against kid goku, 23rd budokai goku beats her even with all her toonforce. |
| Yea, forget Goku. Saitama vs Arale would be the interesting fight. lol, kidding, Saitama would still win. Or at least he would not lose. |
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TonyTheme said: ichii_1 said: Fuck this thread, but you're talking out your ass here. That's against kid goku, 23rd budokai goku beats her even with all her toonforce. Toriyama himself said goku would beat her (don't ask for source), toonforce and gag scenes are not legit feats. Arale was in the early db manga too and said kid goku was strong or something, so it fits. |
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| Are you guys even watching DBS? Those feats are getting ridiculous and the series is just getting started. Goku is not even the strongest DBZ character. |
push0 said: Are you guys even watching DBS? Those feats are getting ridiculous and the series is just getting started. Goku is not even the strongest DBZ character. We are talking about a limitless character that did not, even once, break a sweat. Goku's feats have no meaning to this thread until Saitama actually shows some difficulties against someone. And no, mosquitoes does not count xD |
| I don't know, Saitama trained for what, 3 years? And the one punch part is only applying to all the enemies he's faced. |
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Zivith said: I don't know, Saitama trained for what, 3 years? And the one punch part is only applying to all the enemies he's faced. No shit. Maybe Goku's feats are applying to One Piece antagonists, no? xD As far as it goes Saitama have infinite strenght. Unlike any other character instead of looking for feats to see how strong he is, you kinda need to wait for reverse feats too see if he actually is as strong as he seems to be or not. If the DBZ and DBS antagonists are stronger than OPM ones, does not mean anything This thread is just about thories. Any of the characters could win however if Goku could actually defeat Goku or not will depend 100% on how the OPM manga progresses. If it shows no reverse feats Goku has no chance at all and if it does then we'll see |
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sullynathan said: A planet busting attack that only parted the skies. What you wrote means: But it wasn't what happened. And i didn't see it myself but someone said that original manga's author ONE himself said in an interview that a single full power punch of OPM has half power of Big Bang that created universe. Anyone can confirm this? Still this is a parody series and it's this series' point that Saitama's power is too OP he can't go all out... |
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XMahesvaraX said: someone said that original manga's author ONE himself said in an interview that a single full power punch of OPM has half power of Big Bang that created universe. Anyone can confirm this? I also read that sometimes before, but no matter how much I look for it I never found any solid evidence for that, or an actual quote from One or link. It may very well be true, but no idea... |
ichii_1 said: TonyTheme said: Fuck this thread, but you're talking out your ass here. Toriyama himself said goku would beat her (don't ask for source), toonforce and gag scenes are not legit feats. Arale was in the early db manga too and said kid goku was strong or something, so it fits. So gag scenes in a 100% gag series doesn't count? Is the opposite, Goku called Arale strong for sending General Blue flying without any kind of effort(she was playing wrestling) while Goku during that time was getting is Ass Kicked by him. Also during that time, like 5 or more characters of Dr. Slump were stronger than Goku. |
bigivelfhqOct 11, 2015 8:27 PM
bigivelfhq said: ichii_1 said: Toriyama himself said goku would beat her (don't ask for source), toonforce and gag scenes are not legit feats. Arale was in the early db manga too and said kid goku was strong or something, so it fits. So gag scenes in a 100% gag series doesn't count? It doesn't, when it's full of inconsistencies, arale could destroy the sun or whatever but still get killed by falling down, gag and toon force are not serious versus contenders. And you better not say OPM is a gag manga :( |
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zushakon said: But what if it's a Nokia phone.Ofc Saitama, it doesn't matter what it is, he defeats anything with one punch. Be it Goku, the entire universe or anything else. |
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ExTamplier said: zushakon said: But what if it's a Nokia phone.Ofc Saitama, it doesn't matter what it is, he defeats anything with one punch. Be it Goku, the entire universe or anything else. Oh shit! You just found a rival for him =O |
ExTamplier said: zushakon said: But what if it's a Nokia phone.Ofc Saitama, it doesn't matter what it is, he defeats anything with one punch. Be it Goku, the entire universe or anything else. Speaking of which, if Genos used a few Nokia phones as his "parts"... |
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ichii_1 said: bigivelfhq said: So gag scenes in a 100% gag series doesn't count? It doesn't, when it's full of inconsistencies, arale could destroy the sun or whatever but still get killed by falling down, gag and toon force are not serious versus contenders. And you better not say OPM is a gag manga :( When did Arale gets killed by falling down? Or any other kind of inconsistencies? OPM is a parody so yes is a gag/comedy manga! You're just not calling it gag, because it also has Action in its genre. |
| Saitama hand down. we're talking about something limitless here..... |
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bigivelfhq said: OPM is a parody so yes is a gag/comedy manga! You're just not calling it gag, because it also has Action in its genre. Comedy and gag are not the same thing and OPM does not directly parody anything, we just interpret it that way since it seems to sometimes play with some of the shounen and hero series cliches I don't see how OPM is a gag manga, but that's just my way to see it, I guess... And talking about inconsitencies, forget Arale, all the DBZ series is full of them and of course DBS too. But we just ignore it |
| Obviously Saitama, using the same argument the guys at Death Battle had when they made the fight between Superman & Goku. Btw Superman has a weakness (Kryptonyte) + unlike Goku, Saitama's personality doesn't prevent him from making use of it, so I'd say Saitama would even beat Superman |
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| Who gives a shit about that nostalgic crap? |
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| I can't take OPM Saitama seriously cause the setting and how he get the power just too "normal" and bit ridiculous. unlike Goku or Superman who have proper setting and development. I'd rather tor see the end of debate of the strongest between Superman and Goku with proper reason and explanation than adding a "joke" hero to the discussion. |
IZUMI64 said: I can't take OPM Saitama seriously Why would you? It's fucking comedy, parody and satire of superhero. |
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bastek66 said: IZUMI64 said: I can't take OPM Saitama seriously Why would you? It's fucking comedy, parody and satire of superhero. then why the fuck we have this thread and this discussion!? |
| No-limits fallacy No-limits fallacy everywhere If you say "Saitama wins because he has no limits lel" I can't take that bull Show some real feats instead of prophesizing that "he counters everything because the lore says so" or gtfo OPM was never intended to fight characters outside his verse, hence why that shit doesn't work unless he's shown resistance at least equal to what was shown by the oppnonent. |
AzureDaoraOct 12, 2015 7:19 AM
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| Who knows. There's no right or wrong answer. I'm thinking Goku because I've seen more of his potential. I haven't seen much of Saitama's. E.g. I'd expect Goku to be fast enough to dodge Saitama's punches. |
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| I am not really sure why are we comparing a newly created Anime that isn't even supposed to be taken seriously to a Anime/Manga that is existing for almost 30 years now.A character that was developing for that long to a Character described in 10 vol.Well maybe that's just me.But considering the power Goku has achieved i think he would beat him for now.Still we are not sure what does Saitama full power look like.But i still say that comparing these two should not be taken seriously. |
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