traed said: Situations like?Self defense is fine but there are plenty of situations you dont need to hit someone back as that will only make them hit you back again. |
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Kana2Chan said: traed said: Situations like?Self defense is fine but there are plenty of situations you dont need to hit someone back as that will only make them hit you back again. Kibura_Iburasa said: if a women is intent on carrying on an argument Regardless of what Sir Connery says, this is not a valid reason to slap someone. |
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Sapewloth said: Regardless of what Sir Connery says, this is not a valid reason to slap someone. Ive had a women yelling in my face even though I tried to use common sense and talk her down all my words meant nothing. She thought that because she could yell loudest and was tall she could bully anyone into doing what she wanted. Trust me a good slap could have solved that problem and saved me been yelled at in the street for 4 hours because I wouldn't bow down to her opinion. |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: Sapewloth said: Regardless of what Sir Connery says, this is not a valid reason to slap someone. Ive had a women yelling in my face even though I tried to use common sense and talk her down all my words meant nothing. She thought that because she could yell loudest and was tall she could bully anyone into doing what she wanted. Trust me a good slap could have solved that problem and saved me been yelled at in the street for 4 hours because I wouldn't bow down to her opinion. I fail to see how anything you said makes it okay to slap her if she didn't use physical violence against you. |
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Sapewloth said: I fail to see how anything you said makes it okay to slap her if she didn't use physical violence against you. Because had that been a man a punch would have been a logical step. I believe in total equality to the extremes, men and women are both humans. If it reaches a point where a man needs a good punch for thinking they can be in your face and you can;t do anything about it, it needs to be the same for women. |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: I'm assuming your male side was present at the time?Ive had a women yelling in my face even though I tried to use common sense and talk her down all my words meant nothing. She thought that because she could yell loudest and was tall she could bully anyone into doing what she wanted. Trust me a good slap could have solved that problem and saved me been yelled at in the street for 4 hours because I wouldn't bow down to her opinion. |
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Kana2Chan said: I'm assuming your male side was present at the time? This was quite a few years ago at that time I wasn't really thinking about my gender, just assumed I was a weird male or gay or something. Even If I wasn't, as a girl I still would have wanted to hit her. |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: Sapewloth said: I fail to see how anything you said makes it okay to slap her if she didn't use physical violence against you. Because had that been a man a punch would have been a logical step. No it wouldn't ? I think the problem in your reasoning is the fact that you consider acceptable to physically harm someone (regardless of gender) who annoys you, when it really isn't. That's just resorting to violence for no reason. |
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Kibura_Iburasa said: Sapewloth said: Regardless of what Sir Connery says, this is not a valid reason to slap someone. Ive had a women yelling in my face even though I tried to use common sense and talk her down all my words meant nothing. She thought that because she could yell loudest and was tall she could bully anyone into doing what she wanted. Trust me a good slap could have solved that problem and saved me been yelled at in the street for 4 hours because I wouldn't bow down to her opinion. This nigga couldn't even slap Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite |
| I believe in gender equality. You shouldn't hit a woman as hard as you would hit a man though , but if she starts getting very physical some restraint should be used. A slap attack should only be used when the situation gets out of hand. Woman should'n't just get to beat the shit out of men if they feel like it. "well i strongly believe when a woman hits a man she deserves to get struck back. you dont see midgets attacking giants. if you wana strike someone twice your size you deserve to get your ass beat" such wisdom |
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Kana2Chan said: I fixed my post. My statement was factual, so I was wrong in calling it an argument. If your favourite colour is blue and the labels 'red' and 'blue' switch, your favourite colour is now red, not blue. It doesn't matter which one is called which.Kafka-san said: But they aren't arbitrary, and how they affect any outcome isn't something that's going to change.Yes, I am. I'm arguing that Labels are arbitrary and should do not affect outcomes. ''zzz'' doesn't mean anything. We treat men and women differently for a number of reasons. You're going completely off track. Let's go back to what I originally stated: "All else equal, slapping a man is the exact same thing as slapping a woman. It must be. When all else is equal, 'man' and 'woman' are reduced to mere labels." All else equal being is the key. I'm supposing that, given two individuals that are identical in every possible respect other than that one is labelled a man (or "zzz") and one is labelled a woman (or "iii"), it would be rational to treat both individuals in the same way. Do you agree? |
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Kafka-san said: I don't agree with the original statement that we are all equal. I believe that we often have good reasons for treating each other differently, and that it's only natural for two men to settle a conflict in a different manner than a man and a woman, or two women would.All else equal being is the key. I'm supposing that, given two individuals that are identical in every possible respect other than that one is labelled a man (or "zzz") and one is labelled a woman (or "iii"), it would be rational to treat both individuals in the same way. Do you agree? |
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Kana2Chan said: That was not my original statement. Of course, on that point—which is entirely irrelevant—I agree with you. But I'd rather not talk about things that are entirely irrelevant, so feel free to properly respond to my last post. If you don't want to for whatever reason, then this isn't going anywhere fast, lol.I don't agree with the original statement that we are all equal. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| No. She deserves to be hit back. |
Red_Keys said: Instead of being pro-violence against women, I think we should be anti-violence against men. Because that is the much bigger problem here. Violence against men is absolutely glorified by almost every aspect of our society. And then people act surprised when it happens in real life. Anti-violence everyone is cooler. |
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Falcie said: I agree. But the fact that this topic even exists proves that mainstream culture is already anti-violence against women.Red_Keys said: Instead of being pro-violence against women, I think we should be anti-violence against men. Because that is the much bigger problem here. Violence against men is absolutely glorified by almost every aspect of our society. And then people act surprised when it happens in real life. Anti-violence everyone is cooler. |
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Heredity said: the woman shouldn't even be being abusive in the first place. i'd imagine there must be a lot of men who are afraid to talk about their situation thanks to the social stigma. Reminds me of Mr Hawkings and how every woman he marries tends to beat the shit out of him. |
| Well, anti-violence would actually be the good answer. But I say, if we can't have that, at least give me the right to punch people in the face anyway. It would go the same though, I never start it so self-defense is OP. |
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Kafka-san said: Sorry, English is a second language to me.That was not my original statement. Of course, on that point—which is entirely irrelevant—I agree with you. But I'd rather not talk about things that are entirely irrelevant, so feel free to properly respond to my last post. If you don't want to for whatever reason, then this isn't going anywhere fast, lol. I was referring to ''All else equal being is the key.''. I did reply to your post. I think your hypothetical is silly, because that's not how things are. |
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Red_Keys said: I missed this post somehow, but yes, exactly.Instead of being pro-violence against women, I think we should be anti-violence against men. |
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LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Excellent question. I'll answer your question with another question. How can she slap? |
| I was grown up to believe that gender does matter when it comes to hitting people. Now, I think the opposite. Gender doesn't have anything to do with whether or not could can hit anyone. But you just shouldn't be violent with people unless you absolutely have to. It's morally wrong. Which sucks cause being violent is fun as fuck sometimes. Heredity said: The worst possible act of violence.human motor skills. |
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Fui said: How can she slap? haha oh man, I felt sorry for that guy. |
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Kana2Chan said: It is silly, but it has a very valuable point. The point is that although people say, "it's okay for men to hit men, but it's not okay for men to hit women," that's not what they actually mean—it can't be, since arbitrary labels are not descriptive. What they actually mean is, "whether or not it is okay to hit someone depends on the characteristics of both people." This is a useful distinction because now, instead of dancing around like loonies, we can be precise. Now, and only now, can we attempt to properly answer the question: When is it okay for one person to hit another person? I think your hypothetical is silly, because that's not how things are. Is it when the weight difference is <30 lbs? Is it when the height difference is <4 inches? Is it when both people are relatively the same age? Is it a combination of these things? etc. This is how the discussion should happen—even though it's a stupid discussion in the first place, imo. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Nothing like a busted lip to get me going. |
| Using violence is kinda bad. Real men would deal with the situation in an elegant way. I remember a reality show where a woman was being all bitchy about a guy and he pushed her in the water. |
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| Someone's gotta keep the bitches in line. |
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Heredity said: The naive ones will point out the problem while only the smart ones will present a solution. (I made that by myself, it might become a quote someday)lupadim said: this here, this here is the problem.Real men |
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lupadim said: The best part about that quote is that you are the one that said it.Heredity said: The naive ones will point out the problem while only the smart ones will present a solution. (I made that by myself, it might become a quote someday)lupadim said: this here, this here is the problem.Real men |
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| Common sense tells me: "you don't need to hit anyone, that ain't cool" Instinct tells me: "Beat the shit outta dat slut" Society tells me: "We'll be bitching 'bout it, you jus' let her get away with that shit" |
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| If the bitch can throw a punch, she should take a few as well. Not the face, though. I'm a gentleman. lupadim said: Real men would deal with the situation in an elegant way. Cunt punt? |
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Heredity said: lupadim said: this here, this here is the problem.Real men Agreed. If an abusive woman is hurting you and you need to hit her back for self defense I see no problem. Honestly abuse is bad no matter what gender is inflicting it. However, it will be hard to win that case in court. |
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| I don't agree with hitting anybody as a general rule. If you have to, it should be for good reason, not because your feelings were hurt and you have poor anger management. But even then, "good reason" is pretty much limited to self defence, and even then, only enough to protect yourself. |
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MiniSiets said: You must bear the absolute territory!Someone's gotta keep the bitches in line. |
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| Nah just hit her, but try to make sure she doesn't die. Getting rid off bodies is annoying. |
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| Depends on the level of abusive. My person is sacrosanct, attempt to damage it and I will put you out of commission, male or female. I'm pretty tolerant of "low level" abuse like a girl doing the "annoyed shove" move or something like that. Slapping crosses the line, I would warn someone to step away if they pulled something like that on me. Then after that point I'd try to disengage or, if impossible, then it's blow-for-blow until I have convinced the other party that their course of action is unwise. If things escalate at this point, then it's straight into brutal throat-strike time, where my only goal is to put them on the floor for the foreseeable future. Concerning gender, consider that the woman who may assault you could be a WWE/F wrestler like woman in OP scenario. Or a monstrous gorilla-woman. |
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Korrvo said: lupadim said: The best part about that quote is that you are the one that said it.Heredity said: The naive ones will point out the problem while only the smart ones will present a solution. (I made that by myself, it might become a quote someday)lupadim said: this here, this here is the problem.Real men I'll see that it won't become a quote one day, don't you worry about that. |
| I don't think it's good for anyone to hit anyone, but if the person was being abused badly enough to retaliate and/or defend himself...go for it. Nobody deserves to be in pain. |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUHEO4BJEcg This woman deserves to get hit a few times. |
cabacc2 said: self defense isnt bad. It should be appropiate self defense though. In every other case violence is not ok, and this goes for both men and women I agree with this |
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