| Definitely can't say the win went to wrong team. Navas was the best player in the match, but he really held the team together by himself. Penalty shots were all classy on Holland's part and the goalkeeper change was a smart move on the coach's part. GG |
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| Yes, europe vs S.America, 50:50 |
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| Easily the best game of the quarter finals. Finally a game without an early goal being decisive. Became really intense towards the end! Would have been nice to have an upset for once but gg anyway. |
| I like how Van Gaal had an ace up his sleeve in the form of Tim Krul. This is what he was told by one of his advisors, and so he heeded that advice. And it got him through to the semi-finals, which means Argentina is next in line to face us. I'm pretty sure Costa Rica was aiming for this from the start. Their play was mostly strong in defensive and weak in offense, and though we had many attempts, none went through. So yeah, their loss (and our win) was truly well-deserved. |
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| Welp, we lost. Great game, congrats Netherlands. Inb4 the final Germany - Netherlands... unless the mafia wants something else. Good Luck!!! |
| Krul such a beast. Feel sad for Costa Rica but I think Netherlands has better chances against Argentina. |
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| Germany vs Netherlands final, or an Argentina vs Brazil final. 2 really great potential finals with their international rivals. |
| The Argentina/Netherlands match would be interesting. No idea who would come on top. |
| Damn. DAMN. What a game! fucking awesome, I have no words for this, we might even win the cup!!! woohooooooooooooooo |
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Tachii said: The Argentina/Netherlands match would be interesting. No idea who would come on top. Holland is playing far better than Argentina. With Di María's appearance in doubt, they are favourites. Argentina doesn't win a big game in a WC since 1986(with the hand). Edit: Di María's appearance is not in doubt, according to Diario Olé from Argentina, he's OUT. Apparently, a muscle injury in the right leg. |
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ElPysCongroo said: That's why it's going to be Germany vs Argentina. Signed a dutch man.Germany vs Netherlands final, or an Argentina vs Brazil final. 2 really great potential finals with their international rivals. |
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FernandoSell said: Di Maria would be a miss but definitely won't turn the tide that much in my opinion. Not like Netherlands is faring that better. :| Narrowly escaping from Mexico and winning a penalty shootout aren't good signs when Argentina was in control of most of their games this World Cup.Tachii said: The Argentina/Netherlands match would be interesting. No idea who would come on top. Holland is playing far better than Argentina. With Di María's appearance in doubt, they are favourites. Argentina doesn't win a big game in a WC since 1986(with the hand). Edit: Di María's appearance is not in doubt, according to Diario Olé from Argentina, he's OUT. Apparently, a muscle injury in the right leg. |
| Argentina depended on an own goal to beat Bosnia, a goal on the 46th minute and a penalty not given to beat Iran, a goal on the 118th minute to beat Switzerland and a lucky shot to beat Belgium. Netherlands won 5-1 against Spain, 3-2 against Australia, 2-0 against Chile, 2-1 against Mexico and draw 0-0 against Costa Rica, that you may say was a surprise, but ended 1st in a group with Italy, Uruguay and England. Netherlands had to pass through big teams (Chile and Mexico had really good players), hard games and well-structured defenses to be in this semifinal. Argentina wouldn't be in it if only Drmic (or the ref from the match against Iran) made one thing right. |
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| So 3/4 of my predictions were right. I had hopes for Costa Rica, but the Netherlands proved themselves once again. I can see the final match being Brazil vs. Argentina. I actually think it would be worse if the Netherlands got 2nd place again. |
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| Netherlands vs Germany please! Wow, that's soooo exciting. The game against Costa Rica was pretty tense, Costa Rica really shocked me throughout the game, we actually failed to score against them. Argentina will be a tough match up but I could see us going through and making it to the finals and hopefully winning the cup. BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS 4 LOSSES AT FINALS. It's unbearable. :c |
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| Germany easy win. Sorry mijn nederlandse volk. |
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iNaruX said: Germany easy win. Sorry mijn nederlandse volk. Don't know about that. Brasil has a tendency to luck out on a lot of games, at least this world cup has shown that. |
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| I think the finals are going to be Germany vs Netherlands. If it happens then i have no idea who will come out on top and it surely won't be an easy win for Germany as some people say. |
Rizeberry said: I'll be cheering for them probably but I really don't think they'll winAm I the only one who's pulling for Argentina? Seems like a European finals to me |
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| A Germany - Netherlands final would be a repeat of exactly 40 years ago. It would be interesting, to say the least. |
| If we get in the finals and we lose against Germany I'll literally start crying. If we win too, but then in a different way :$ Can't wait till the next match!! |
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| I was hoping for a Brazil / Argentina final because I am Brazilian and that game would be a classic ending for a world cup in Brazil. I think that anything can happen though, Brazil vs Holland, Brazil vs Argentina, Germany vs Holland and Germany vs Argentina are all possible. I don't know if Holland is playing better than Argentina or not, for me Argentina looks like a team with talented players but not that good "chemistry" among the players, Holland is more like a team of disciplined and hardworking players that know each other well and form a more cohesive team. Same difference with Brazil and Germany. It's the difference between the schools of football of South America and Northern Europe. By the mathematical Elo ratings all the 4 teams are well matched: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Football_Elo_Ratings |
| pft, colombia vs brazil has shown that officiating dictates the outcome of the game. |
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LemanRuss said: iNaruX said: Germany easy win. Sorry mijn nederlandse volk. Don't know about that. Brasil has a tendency to luck out on a lot of games, at least this world cup has shown that. Luck out on a lot of games? That's called being a strong team. Football looks like luck but it really isn't. If you look at it, Germany's victories were also down to luck and they didn't even manage to win against Ghana and beat Algeria in the 90 minutes. Same thing with Holland's victory against Mexico and against Costa Rica. Argentina gave me the impression that they controlled well Belgium. Brazil's victory over Colombia was very clear cut as well. Brazil was clearly superior to Colombia and also superior to Chile (though not so clearly). |
kuity said: pft, colombia vs brazil has shown that officiating dictates the outcome of the game. I had the impression that Brazil was clearly superior to Colombia. |
kuity said: pft, colombia vs brazil has shown that officiating dictates the outcome of the game. lol nope |
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Guaporense said: kuity said: pft, colombia vs brazil has shown that officiating dictates the outcome of the game. I had the impression that Brazil was clearly superior to Colombia. I don't know who was the better team in that match to be honest, but 'clearly superior' is the last word I would use to describe that. More importantly, what I'm saying is that the referee set the tone of the match simply by choosing to close one eye to the fouls being committed. In a clean match, who knows what the result would be. |
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kuity said: They gave a penalty to Columbia... there's no such thing as a clean match anyway.Guaporense said: I had the impression that Brazil was clearly superior to Colombia. I don't know who was the better team in that match to be honest, but 'clearly superior' is the last word I would use to describe that. More importantly, what I'm saying is that the referee set the tone of the match simply by choosing to close one eye to the fouls being committed. In a clean match, who knows what the result would be. |
| It's not part of the World Cup, but I just read that Alfredo Di Stefano passed away. I didn't get to see him play, but just by looking at his history he was an icon in Real Madrid. |
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| [quote=FernandoSell] Tachii said: Not that big of a loss but that is definitely going to hurt argentina as di maria was a pretty critical midfielder for them. Not good news, since I'm hoping they'll go through the next matchEdit: Di María's appearance is not in doubt, according to Diario Olé from Argentina, he's OUT. Apparently, a muscle injury in the right leg. |
SweetKotomi said: It's not part of the World Cup, but I just read that Alfredo Di Stefano passed away. I didn't get to see him play, but just by looking at his history he was an icon in Real Madrid. That's horrible news! I think he was part of the Real equipo that won FIVE international titles in a row, right? I'm very sad to hear this. Rest In Peace. |
| http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28198309 looks like he got away with it |
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| Hm...their 'explanation' why the FIFA can't do anything is redundant. If I remember correctly the FIFA has the right to ascertain such circumstances independently after all. However, I don't think that foul was purposely either. |
| ya I think the main difference here is that despite the severe consequences there wasn't any ill will behind that knee, unlike Suarez 100% intentional behaviour |
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| Yeah it was a meaty challenge, that personally, I think was dealt with fairly by the referee. It was definitely a bad tackle but I do not think it was made with any intention to hurt or malice. Football is a physical game and unfortunately this kind of thing can happen. Really sucks for Brazil that this happened to Neymar though. |
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| i can't believe you guys are saying that jumping on a head ball with your knee is normal. It's worse than high foot |
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| if they suspended players for tackles like that it'd happen like every two-three games |
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| The knee wasn't even raised that much if you watch the playback. Brazil were using physicality to shut down the Columbia striker in a similar way too. Football is a physical game, I think it already suffers from too much encroachment by modern health and safely culture. Football years ago used to be a real battle between sportsmen. The FA haven't done anything so it wasn't a malicious case. Really looking forward to tonights game against Germany too but without Neymar this is going to be an even bigger challenge for them. |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_qa75N_oE0 sorry, just watched it again and the clombian player didn't even had the chance to get the ball, there was a body between them. ReasonDesu said: The knee wasn't even raised that much if you watch the playback. Brazil were using physicality to shut down the Columbia striker in a similar way too. Football is a physical game, I think it already suffers from too much encroachment by modern health and safely culture. Football years ago used to be a real battle between sportsmen. The FA haven't done anything so it wasn't a malicious case. Really looking forward to tonights game against Germany too but without Neymar this is going to be an even bigger challenge for them. physical =/=MMA the only thing allowed is shoulder to shoulder, not elbows, knees, a foot on somebody's body or a hand in the face |
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| It looks like how a normal player would rise for a ball. His legs are almost completely vertical and he's jumping. I think the only way he managed to cause so much damage without getting penalized is because it looks like a normal challenge and Neymar is stooped ready to control on his chest so he took it to the spine. The guy definitely meant to come in hard and put him off but I still don't know if you could call it malicious intent. Obviously the FA didn't think so. |
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| Yeah no that definitely does not look that bad to me, I think it'd have been a huge mistake if they'd had penalized him merely for that because if they did I swear they'd have to look into similar matters all the fucking time. I wouldn't even say that's a red card tbh. |
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ReasonDesu said: If he didn't expect the impact he wouldn't lean against neymar's shoulder with his hands. It was a violent foul that deserved red, you don't jump in a football game with your knee in the direction of a player, that's crazy.It looks like how a normal player would rise for a ball. His legs are almost completely vertical and he's jumping. I think the only way he managed to cause so much damage without getting penalized is because it looks like a normal challenge and Neymar is stooped ready to control on his chest so he took it to the spine. The guy definitely meant to come in hard and put him off but I still don't know if you could call it malicious intent. Obviously the FA didn't think so. Also, that wasn't the first time in the game that he did something violent: http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoXR2q1rxQE8rKYKYeYAD8J4nZNMmski1pJlmCq8wQ82UkLGpa I remind you that i'm not saying that the game was in favour of Colombia, because from what i saw from the game was that he was bad for both sides. I just think that he was violent, broke someon's vertebra, could have made the guy paraplegic and thinks that "it was a normal tackle" |
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| The guy doesn't even need surgery, saying that he almost made him paraplegic is just blowing it out of proportion. It's a bad tackle with no malicious intent and I think the FA dealt with it as they should have. |
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ReasonDesu said: The guy doesn't even need surgery, saying that he almost made him paraplegic is just blowing it out of proportion. It's a bad tackle with no malicious intent and I think the FA dealt with it as they should have.  If he had hit a bit to the right, zuniga could have broken that part and damaged neymar's spinal cord and made him paraplegic. edit: That's like 5 centimeters? edit:The spinal cord passes through that blank inside the vertebra if you didn't know. What broke is what's in red |
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| I can't wait for the game tonight. So hope Germany advances to the final, otherwise I'll be crying. |
| Zuniga should've gotten a yellow for that. Unfair challenge, sure, but it's not like he intended to break his friggin' back. To be honest, when I saw it I was thinking "yeah okay get up already you wuss, it can't possibly be THAT bad". I guess the human body is sometimes more vulnerable than you'd think. It was (really) bad luck for Neymar. It sucks but that's how it goes sometimes. |
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