Sung-Hwan said: Bebop is so good in English that it doesn't even make sense to watch it in Japanese. Wakamoto as Vicious just doesn't sound right.DrGeroCreation said: mattbenz99 said: Cowboy Bebop is the best example.Sung-Hwan said: Fierce_Deity22 said: If the lips are matching up. Nothing is edited. Sounds good. Has good acting. Why the hell would I still want to watch sub over dub? Sung-Hwan says: but lost a portion of its soul along the way. Me: What kind of Ghost-Hunter shit is that? gtfo. lol Because you're potentially missing out on the charm or uniqueness that comes with the original voice-acting. I wouldn't ever watch Steins;Gate dubbed for example (again). id argue that many series gain something from a dub. for example: fma(brotherhood), trigun, code geass, baccano. these shows in my opinion just had more soul in english Cowboy Bebop is often claimed to have the best dub ever made. It also seems people forget there is original Japanese voice-acting for that one at all. It being from 1998 as well is a landmark in itself. |
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Sung-Hwan said: Ckan said: does that mean you think the Nazi lines would be preferably dubbed in German? If they dubbed the Nazis to speak German in the English Hellsing dub, and have subtitles for them when they speak, I would have probably given Hellsing Ultimate a 10/10 and completely ignore its flaws. Good to see you're consistent. |
| Dubs allow you to spend less time reading white text on the bottom of the screen and more time focusing on the art and animation. It also, I find, makes comprehension of the story easier. |
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| Still sub and hopefully raw in the future. |
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| Prefer subbed. I like to think that original voices are better,but it's a matter of taste.. |
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| Why do we even have this discussion? People watch whatever they prefer. There is no "better", but there is 'more pleasurable' which depends entirely on the person. |
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antonn said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEUeWnV73U vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFulRTR1Sc Casting my vote to the English sub. |
| Subbed. Though if it's a Ghibli movie, I'm also okay with dubbed. |
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The_Deadly_Tikka said: I mostly watch Dubbed anime mainly because it is the language i speak so it makes it easier to watch and relax, however i do watch lots of subbed anime (Naruto and One Piece) and i do believe some shows simply need to be watched in Japanese. However i do have a question to ask for the Sub elites; take a show like Monster for example. Most of the cast in that show are German and i often here people saying "the characters are Japanese so it should be watched in Japanese. so for this would you watch it in German? Is there even a German dub in the first place? |
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The_Deadly_Tikka said: See, I've always disliked that argument. I think it's more apt to argue that the original 'script' was written in Japanese, therefore nuances may/or may not be lost in translation.I mostly watch Dubbed anime mainly because it is the language i speak so it makes it easier to watch and relax, however i do watch lots of subbed anime (Naruto and One Piece) and i do believe some shows simply need to be watched in Japanese. However i do have a question to ask for the Sub elites; take a show like Monster for example. Most of the cast in that show are German and i often here people saying "the characters are Japanese so it should be watched in Japanese. so for this would you watch it in German? |
| English dubs these days are very well done IMO. I think that some people hate dubs just cause they want to feel somehow superior, or they were used to the original voices. But if you keep your mind open you would get used to the voices eventually. And one more thing, watching dubs is still anime, it's just a different version of it, so there shouldn't be any debate about appreciating anime more if you watched a certain show subbed. I mean, all you are doing is reading ENGLISH SUBTITLES. You are still taking in the same ideas as you would if you watched dubbed. |
Patrick-kun-0921 said: they actually change the dialogue in anime so an average western viewer would understand itI mean, all you are doing is reading ENGLISH SUBTITLES. You are still taking in the same ideas as you would if you watched dubbed. |
JD2411 said: Patrick-kun-0921 said: they actually change the dialogue in anime so an average western viewer would understand itI mean, all you are doing is reading ENGLISH SUBTITLES. You are still taking in the same ideas as you would if you watched dubbed. Yeah. If you've ever watched a dubbed anime with the subs on, you will notice the subs don't match the dub. Did this for code geass and it was pretty annoying |
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| They put so much effort into the art/story/music/VOICEACTING why would you want to erase and replace something of that magnitude Especially if it's replaced by some american company that couldn't give two shits about chinese cartoons |
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| I agree with the fact that the word choices are different in dubs, but you still get the same idea in a dub IMO. |
Patrick-kun-0921 said: I agree with the fact that the word choices are different in dubs, but you still get the same idea in a dub IMO. Some dubs are painful, although most are fine the worst I've heard is probably Elfen lied's dub, that one was awful. And this was my first anime, so I hadn't even seen a show with subs yet. |
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Patrick-kun-0921 said: I agree with the fact that the word choices are different in dubs, but you still get the same idea in a dub IMO. Why would you start a thread on this and then ignore half the responses? Delete yourself and go browse the 30 other threads on the same topic Cupquake said: Patrick-kun-0921 said: I agree with the fact that the word choices are different in dubs, but you still get the same idea in a dub IMO. Some dubs are painful, although most are fine the worst I've heard is probably Elfen lied's dub, that one was awful. And this was my first anime, so I hadn't even seen a show with subs yet. That was your FIRST? I'm sorry :( |
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Forgetfulness said: (here we go again) I prefer subs and don't watch dubs cause subs are usually closer to the original meaning and because anime is a Japanese medium: I know some anime VAs also do game dubs and I have no problem with Riven's voice in League of Legends (since it's American) but I would prefer to keep my anime in Japanese. There are a few other reasons, but that's my main one I don't hate dubs though; I frankly do not care unless someone bothers me for not watching them. And about that last point, as far as I know dubs tend to localize things more than subs ^. I prefer watching anime in japanese dub english sub, and watching American cartoon in english dub. That's just the way it is. |
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| There are some dubs that are just absolute shit and don't do any justice to the characters. This isn't always the case but a lot of dub haters think otherwise. There are also translation issues that won't ever be able to give off the same vibe that an English dub will. For example: http://youtu.be/-8lYRmYmdn0 http://youtu.be/cspIuORXd-M http://youtu.be/1Bf0aYBk0OQ A dubbed version won't have the same effect that these will^ Personally, if I could consistently find good dubs, I would watch dubbed. Generally though, I will watch things subbed, mostly because there's a lot of anime in the past that have.. questionable dubs, and currently airing anime don't have dubs. The exception to these rules though would be anime like Baccano!, Cowboy Bebop, Black Lagoon, FMP, FMA:B, and HOTD who either had either really great dubs or dubs that were downright superior to the sub, and Space Dandy who's dub is actually airing BEFORE the sub, which is rare. I'd like to see more dubs like these, but I doubt many anime are willing to pull a Space Dandy and release dubbed versions early, let alone in good quality. |
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Forgetfulness said: (here we go again) I would prefer dub for certain jazzy anime obviously not set in Japan, like Cowboy Bebop and Baccano! |
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| Question: So, why you don't you keep your mind open and only watch dub? |
| Some people act as if watching dubs will give you leprosy. I watch subs the majority of the time, because I want to experience the anime the way it was intended to be like, and the same applies to any media where English or my native tongue isn't the spoken language. Baccano! and Cowboy Bebop are two examples of anime that have good English voice acting. |
Ratohnhaketon said: I agree though I think multi language anime work better in Japanese. Because most of them actually know Engrish, an American doesn't know Japanese or any other language that is really used in an anime. Like in Beck, Detective Conan, and others like that where the main setting is in Japan but they often meet foreigners or go to another place, they're able to use(while broken) English or whatever language it should be. What do they do with that in English dubs?But then again I'd take English dubs over Japanese attempting English. It's fucking hysterical to hear seiyuu speaking English in Chrome Shelled Regios. "I'ru fuckin' kiru ya!" |
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| Uhm, I dislike dubs unless I have seen the show as a kid dubbed. Shows like the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon I have to watch dub (Though Pokemon Origins I watched subbed) I will never forget the SAO dub calling a shinai a big bamboo sword. |
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| I prefer Nihongo to grace my ears. One of the lastest dubs i've seen was Shinigami no Ballad and they kept calling the shinigami "ShinigOmi". Like even if you can't pronounce it all that well, where the fuck are you seeing the letter o in the word shinigami? |
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| Here.We.Go and obviously there are a lot of good dubs(Funi and Sentai) but then there is the issue with the haters spewing the generic 'no emotion' bullshit which in reality is only true half the time.. It's sub wankers listening to Japan overacting in different situations.. So I guess dubs have to remember to scream and act hysterical in every situation |
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| I used to watch dubs back in the day. Now I'll barely watch a dub unless I hear good things about it. |
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| Dubs before Cowboy Bebop were pretty much as a whole all bad, with amateur voice actors, phoned in performances, and usually badly translated scripts as well. Dubs these days are generally a lot better as the anime medium is taken a little bit more seriously now by western VA than before. The American accent though, is just so jarring and feels out of place in any setting which is not in the modern era. I would also say Japanese voice actors are a lot better at archetype character casting. |
Forgetfulness said: That one scene is definitely worse but the steins;gate dub as a whole is very good.IntroverTurtle said: According to Steins;Gate, they change it to ghetto EnglishRatohnhaketon said: I agree though I think multi language anime work better in Japanese. Because most of them actually know Engrish, an American doesn't know Japanese or any other language that is really used in an anime. Like in Beck, Detective Conan, and others like that where the main setting is in Japan but they often meet foreigners or go to another place. What do they do with that in English dubs?But then again I'd take English dubs over Japanese attempting English. It's fucking hysterical to hear seiyuu speaking English in Chrome Shelled Regios. "I'ru fuckin' kiru ya!" |
Cupquake said: JD2411 said: Patrick-kun-0921 said: they actually change the dialogue in anime so an average western viewer would understand itI mean, all you are doing is reading ENGLISH SUBTITLES. You are still taking in the same ideas as you would if you watched dubbed. Yeah. If you've ever watched a dubbed anime with the subs on, you will notice the subs don't match the dub. Did this for code geass and it was pretty annoying in most shows you wouldnt even notice it unless you actually previously watched it subbed. in fact i find this problem works both ways. if you watch a show subbed first i get annoyed when the dub is different but when i watch a dub first i get annoyed when the sub is different |
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Forgetfulness said: Yeah, figured. I wonder how they do the American in Japan bit in English. Might be funny to watch as I don't see how it would work.IntroverTurtle said: According to Steins;Gate, they change it to ghetto EnglishRatohnhaketon said: I agree though I think multi language anime work better in Japanese. Because most of them actually know Engrish, an American doesn't know Japanese or any other language that is really used in an anime. Like in Beck, Detective Conan, and others like that where the main setting is in Japan but they often meet foreigners or go to another place. What do they do with that in English dubs?But then again I'd take English dubs over Japanese attempting English. It's fucking hysterical to hear seiyuu speaking English in Chrome Shelled Regios. "I'ru fuckin' kiru ya!" Also what about that all English Shinryaku Ika Musume episode. |
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_wecc said: To be fair, it's really, really hard to try and top that scene. Gotta give them props for the way they handled it in dub form.Forgetfulness said: That one scene is definitely worse but the steins;gate dub as a whole is very good.IntroverTurtle said: According to Steins;Gate, they change it to ghetto EnglishRatohnhaketon said: I agree though I think multi language anime work better in Japanese. Because most of them actually know Engrish, an American doesn't know Japanese or any other language that is really used in an anime. Like in Beck, Detective Conan, and others like that where the main setting is in Japan but they often meet foreigners or go to another place. What do they do with that in English dubs?But then again I'd take English dubs over Japanese attempting English. It's fucking hysterical to hear seiyuu speaking English in Chrome Shelled Regios. "I'ru fuckin' kiru ya!" |
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Korrvo said: _wecc said: To be fair, it's really, really hard to try and top that scene. Gotta give them props for the way they handled it in dub form.Forgetfulness said: That one scene is definitely worse but the steins;gate dub as a whole is very good.IntroverTurtle said: According to Steins;Gate, they change it to ghetto EnglishRatohnhaketon said: I agree though I think multi language anime work better in Japanese. Because most of them actually know Engrish, an American doesn't know Japanese or any other language that is really used in an anime. Like in Beck, Detective Conan, and others like that where the main setting is in Japan but they often meet foreigners or go to another place. What do they do with that in English dubs?But then again I'd take English dubs over Japanese attempting English. It's fucking hysterical to hear seiyuu speaking English in Chrome Shelled Regios. "I'ru fuckin' kiru ya!" ya i agree i dont think there was any way that scene could of ended up any better in the dub. i mean just how would you translate that into english? maybe if it was a different dub for a different language it might of been better but for an english dub i dont think they could of done it any better |
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xLimewireX said: They put so much effort into the art/story/music/VOICEACTING why would you want to erase and replace something of that magnitude Especially if it's replaced by some american company that couldn't give two shits about chinese cartoons I feel like funimation's dubs actually feel like they have effort in them. |
_wecc said: Yea, I agree.xLimewireX said: They put so much effort into the art/story/music/VOICEACTING why would you want to erase and replace something of that magnitude Especially if it's replaced by some american company that couldn't give two shits about chinese cartoons I feel like funimation's dubs actually feel like they have effort in them. For the most part. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7x2ai9cC1Q ಠ_ಠ |
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Zelot said: mattbenz99 said: Ulquiorra1923 said: Sasugay said: mattbenz99 said: in most shows you wouldnt even notice it unless you actually previously watched it subbed. in fact i find this problem works both ways. if you watch a show subbed first i get annoyed when the dub is different but when i watch a dub first i get annoyed when the sub is different DON'T ENCOURAGE SUNG-HWANG. It's easy to fix that. We all should watch only the subbed versions. or we can let people whatever the fuck they want and you dont be a dick about it Exactly, if you liked sub anime, don't need to force others to watch subbed and vice versa. Why not? I'm free to say whatever I want, nobody is obligated to take my advice or not. |
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JD2411 said: Because not many are willing to bash source material unless the new material is significantly better, and rightfully so. You look foolish otherwise.why is it only the dub fans who make these types of threads? |
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