DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| It started out better, but after the appearance of 5 it went down a bit. And the ending wasn't bad per se, but I think it could have been better. But soundtrack and visuals were nice, and although she gets so much hate, I thought Lisa was a character, that felt more realistic as a human being than most people in most anime. |
| I don't understand. Wakaranai. I really do not understand. I think this series started out so exciting and well done but it was all pretty good until Five came in and things went weird. Sphinx wasn't this Deathnote mastermind pair anymore. For some reason the ending leaves me thinking - what the hell? I'll give this series overall a 8/10 but this last episode was a bit of an disappointing end to this nicely crafted start. Oh well. Best of luck to you Lisa and Shibazaki. |
| "No one knows what the future holds. That's why its potential is infinite.” - Okabe Rintarou "El Psy Congroo." Kirino Kyousake Picture  |
| So dumb. Seriously, what a stupid show. I can't believe Watanabe was behind this; the same person who created Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo and Baby Blue. What the hell was he thinking. I haven't come across such dull characters in a long while, let alone such a contrived plot. The only redeeming qualities are the animation and the soundtrack. Unlike Watanabe, at least Yoko Kanno hasn't lost it. I thought I was in for something brilliant when I read the synopsis and saw the director and the score. What a disappointment. 3/10 Nearly died at the end when I thought they were going to play Sigur Ros. So glad such a beautiful band weren't associated with such an awful show; all the tiny could-be references had me worried. |
ToukaSep 27, 2014 1:31 PM
| well... that was pretty good. i wish the helicopter scene was done more 'realistically'. as soon as 9 pulled out that detonation device, the snipers wouldve eliminated both of them at once. 8/10 it was decent. the art was beautiful at times. many memorable scenes. the chars were alright... lisa's char was a shame. i thought she wouldve been one of those prodigy kids too but lost their memory or something. |
KurogashiSep 27, 2014 1:27 PM
    |
| Pretty good, could have been better. Juggling between an 8 or 9 here. Eh. |
| Ay man, shoutout to the United States of America for being there to save the day. America, FUCK YEAH. |
 |
| wow they even detonated the atomic bomb, ended up being a great show This anime surprised me from beginning to end, and I thought it was a great final, terrorists working for hope, it seems like something unthinkable The animation combined with weather presented by the history, development and the soundtrack were great and still had excellent characters The anime is certainly among the best of the year, and is one of the best I've seen for sure recommend this great story .. |
  |
| Loved it. From the beginning to the end it was a fun and exciting joy ride. Although I thought it would've been much more complex, it ended quite simply. Nonetheless, a great anime and an 11 episode might I add to that. I wish it was at least a 24 episode series, that way we'd get a more complete and thorough understanding of everything. 10/10 |
 |
| Yeah 24 episodes would have been really great...the story is really epic, what a shame that they both had to die in the very end...:/ |
| It wasn't me who was wrong, it was the world! |
| An anticlimactic ending, but I liked it. It was like a work of art. There were a few bumps in the road here and there, but its overall pretty consistent I guess. Could have worked more on character development and background, but its hard with 10 episodes. 8/10 |
 |
| 8.5/10 As most people have given it. It was great imo. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
| Very wasted potential. 6-7/10 for me. |
| 5/10. Take away Kanno's music, the visuals and Shibazaki adding a human edge and all you're left with is attention seeking, do-gooder 'terrorism'. There's nothing beyond the surface. Painfully shallow--to such an extent that the 'infodump' scenes towards the end only revealed the obvious. There's barely anything worth saying about the series if you exclude superficial aspects. I'd watch a Hollywood movie if I wanted boom-boom. They do it better. If anything Twelve regressed as a character: going from sinister-playful in the first ep - hinting at there being something more to his character - to a white knight with no backbone. Lisa existed for pointless idiocy and to ruin Twelve. Nine didn't develop. Five existed to... play chess and attempt to commit actual terrorist acts?... Maybe if the idiot duo had been blown up in ep9, after such a tender/intimate scene, the series could've gone out with an unpredictable bang. Instead, it was pointlessly predictable to the end. Even the Americans had to appear just to continue as blonde 1D baddies. Toilet writing. Watanabe can only handle 'episodic fun-cool'. This series is the result of him trying to go for substance over only brief flashbacks for depth/no narrative focus... without adding the substance. I don't get it. |
AironicallyHumanSep 27, 2014 5:55 PM
pakoko said: Pretty anticlimactic, but beautiful. It didn't end with an exciting bang, but a bang that fills your heart with a sort of emptiness. 8/10 this |
 |
sullynathan said: Ay man, shoutout to the United States of America for being there to save the day. The way this played out, they were truly the winners here, with the Koreans in second, assuming they weren't too badly affected. Can you imagine in the aftermath the sheer amount of profit that was made by corporate America in exchange for rebuilding Japan's industrial infrastructure? It's staggering. Ford, GM, GE, IBM, HP --- they're going to clean up. As well as the military, since Japan is going to be even more of a vassal state for a while again since they can't defend themselves anymore. I guess if Nine wanted to subvert the Athena Plan's goal of making Japan independent, he did a smashing job. Uncle Sam couldn't have asked for more perfect little terrorists than these stooges. |
  |
| Sad to see this show end, I would have rather had a 24 episode adaption to the show but somethings can't happen I actually thought the bomb was going to go off right after the planes couldn't reach it. I did like the little cheerful ending that suddenly turned dark where twelve got sniped by the american government. (Dead in Pieces 12) The ending credits OST i loved, it was beautiful and I pretty much listened to the rest while I was looking other stuff up. Im not gonna lie, one of my favorite adaptions of the summer anime season, thanks Watanabe! 9/10!! |
 |
| An atomic bomb that's so high up that it won't kill anyone, but it will destroy everything electronic? Genius. When the bomb exploded and the lights appeared, that was freakin' beautiful. So Shibazaki was Oedipus. Noo, Twelve got shot! (T_T) And Nine is gone too. But in the end, they were still VON. They were the hope people needed. This started and ended better than some other anime. Hopefully, their legacy shall be known throughout the world. |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| I think I'm the only one who didn't like this ending. Not the concept, I loved that and the execution, I just think too much happened in the finale. Like, I think this should've been a little longer, but whatever. I liked the show, I just felt the ending could've been better. |
| I didn't come here to play, I came to win. Now lets play. |
| Wow - I practically uttered this word as soon as this episode ended. Just wow. The atomic bomb going off too - Just wow. They expected to die and before they did, they wanted to share their story to the whole word, but in an unorthodox way. The only thing I really didn't like was Five, I didn't really understand her character. Despite all the shit she did, she just wanted no one else to have Nine and she ends up committing suicide. What a poorly written character. Anyways, everything else was wonderful - The art, animation, music, our protagonist's motives, etc. 8/10 |
 |
Kurini said: I felt incredibly sad when Twelve was shot. I would say this was a very beautiful artistic anime, a series I would enjoy rewatching. Me too. He was my favorite... Poor Lisa.......... //Sobs |
| 💕 |
| Beautiful aniime. The ending was superb. It was still sad though. The way Twelve died was just sad. . . . Had a lot more potential though. . . |
 Xway101 ~By me~ |
| Such a nice anime ended with a sad ending, i really liked this anime but now it ended. 8 / 10 |
 |
| Wow, wasn't the ending I was expecting. Quite anticlimatic, not sure how I feel about this one. Some logic didn't feel quite right too (behind the U.S guys for example), it could have been handle better. But anyway, the overall series was really good. I particularly enjoyed the atmosphere in this one. 8/10 |
| The stillness of Japan after the bombing was both eerie as well as soothing. Ending the show with the ost fading out to silence left a bigger impression than expected. Although this conclusion was certainly powerful, I can't say I'm all that happy about it. It seems like its potential was distorted by the amount of time five took up with her rather unnecessary presence in an otherwise solid show. It was also unfortunate how predictable this ended up being with the main goal being to bring the sins of the corrupt officials to light. It really pains me how much potential this had at the start with the concept of terrorist protagonists as well as the ingenious use of the story of Oedipus Rex in the riddles. Another part that took a toll on Zankyou was how underwhelming the characters were. In a plot driven thriller I don't ask for much in this department, but I just couldn't find many reasons to care about Nine and Twelve or their cause. Then there's Lisa. I will never write a character off as useless as I believe even the mundane roles serve a purpose. My problem with her was how her perspective was never explored beyond her being a nuisance to Nine and the thing that humanized Twelve just wasn't delved into deep enough. As for five...well I really don't even want to start with her. Such a waste of time. With that said though, the execution of what was there was certainly breathtaking at times. The production values are top notch, just a shame that the content couldn't match. One thing I like about the conclusion was how Nine and Twelve made Lisa and Shibazaki into monuments for their memories. They knew they were short on time and wanted to leave proof of themselves behind. Japan in the dark was proof of the calm solitude they experienced at the institute. Lisa's role was proof they were alive, that they got to be humans. Shibazaki's role was proof of their cause. Nine calls Shibazaki Oedipus because he stopped at nothing to reveal the truth. Overall I have mixed thoughts on this as there were glaring shortcomings but also excellent moments that it deserves due credit for. 7.5/10 |
 |
| Well how can I desdcibe the ending, I'll simply say it was satisfying. After the last episode I really thought they would be taking it down a different route. The anime started very well, and although I would have preferred it to be a death noteish anime throughout as the beginning suggested, I enjoyed it all in all. Overall it was quite nice. |
"When everyone else is about to give up, the fighter who becomes the role model, is the true Leader."  |
| so till the end, Lisa did not do much, she is more like a direct witness to the events the starting episodes were great, then moved towards average but overall is a very well made series, which i enjoyed :) |
| I would say 8.5-9 anime overall. There were problems in the writing when five came in but damn everything else was perfect. I think this anime is unique as the atmosphere is more important than the writing itself. The scenes were beautifully directed and it was truly captivating. The anime set out to do what it was meant to. I couldn't ask for anymore except it being longer. My favorite work from Watanabe. |
| Previously: BlueXRam |
| Personally loved the ending, and the atomic bomb detonating scene was beautiful just 1 question tho, if anyone can answer thatd be great... Why did 9 die? How, rather. |
| Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
Yuzaki said: Personally loved the ending, and the atomic bomb detonating scene was beautiful just 1 question tho, if anyone can answer thatd be great... Why did 9 die? How, rather. Because of the experiments they went through. His time was running short. The old man said they don't have much time left to Shizbaki. |
| Previously: BlueXRam |
| Wow, while somewhere in the middle of this series many things could've been done better especially the part on Five, this ending is so shockingly beautiful and totally turned this whole series around. One of the best endings I have seen recently. |
| Cute is justice. |
| True, but I feel sorry for them because they both died :s |
| It wasn't me who was wrong, it was the world! |
| I hoped for something more, and it ended with some lame excuse... again. |
| Some characters lacked development or they were simply poorly written. That aside, the art, animations and especially music were out of this world, so techically speaking it's flawless. I think everyone was expecting a little too much, since there was Watanabe's name in it, and me too of course. It's not a bad finale, I mean it makes sense but I expected something more like "memorable". 8/10 for me. Waiting for next Watanabe's show. Btw, thanks America. |
 |
| I don't know how to feel about this ending. I really was expecting both Nine and Twelve to die because they were hinting at it, but I wasn't expecting the USA to come swooping in and killing one of them off for no reason. Just... Why? They were both dying anyways, we didn't need a Diabolus ex Machina. But anyways other than that, I still love the anime a lot and I really enjoyed watching it. |
| Had a few brilliant moments. Should have been a movie that cut out Five altogether. 6/10 |
| wow I guess only myself think that Zantero has a really great depth character development (especially Lisa and Twelve). but it just how complex / weak the storytelling was so it resulted people having the different understanding to the series. In fact that I would like to relate how Zantero characters having more realistic traits to that of humans in real life. So probably it comes off not interesting as people expected to me. Nine, Twelve, and Shibazaki served as the characters who done most role on intelligent part and revealing Japan's darkness. Lisa and Five weren't the character device, nor the characters who ruined the plot story (in fact they have a purpose to keep the information up). Five is served as character who prevent Nine and Twelve's goal and in order to develop more of their characters. And Lisa, I love the fact that she remained to be useless in order to keep the pacing of the story (despite many people hate her) because she was actually represent us, the audience. She also portrayed same as nine, twelve and five because she was also the part of victim of abuse. While nine, twelve and five are victim of abuse because athena plan, lisa is victim abuse of bullying and family issues. I also tend to think that Lisa got the both role as "their trump card" (Like helped sphinx in the airport, suggesting twelve to help nine in episode 10) or also can be the falldown for both of them in order to having Nine & Twelve character development (most likely twelve) I tend to think that Lisa is someone who make both nine and twelve as more human and represented represented the one who survived and brings the bright "hope" for them in the future. In fact this anime actually can be perfect but I couldn't deny there are some flaws. (Like first to the half end of the episodes, it's like the mystery aspect fall flat). But yet I found each events in every episodes complete a simple details and reach the conclusion/ending very perfectly. I satisfied enough because you get the moral/value of the story about self-worth and revolutionary in different way. So yeah 8.5/10 for me (But I rated it 9/10 for MAL) |
ChiYamaSep 28, 2014 10:12 PM
| GODDAMMIT FUCK THE AMERICANS |
KagemushaX said: Wish they showed us more of the orphanage and about their past, but perhaps the mystery and simplicity is what makes it so beautiful. 8/10 I was hoping for a kinderheim 511-like back story, didn't get anything close |
darkreaver94 said: A decent ending but somewhat a disappointing show. Why did the US guy shot Twelve instead of Nine when Nine was the one holding the detonator? If it was a warning shot, it was even more stupid to provoke Nine. Story: 6/10 Art/Animation: 8/10 Sound: 10/10 Characters: 6/10 Enjoyment: 6/10 Overall: 7.2/10 (rounded down to 7/10) I think it's a plot hole to kill off twelve |
| RIP Nine and Twelve. I loved you both. *cries self to sleep* |
| So If Nine could hack into the police database, why didn't he just release/leak the information regarding Dr. Mamiya and the Athena Project? |
zetsu_shorenSep 29, 2014 4:44 AM
More topics from this board
Poll: » Zankyou no Terror Episode 6 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Aug 14, 2014 |
383 |
by NoviSun
»»
Aug 17, 11:41 PM |
|
Poll: » Zankyou no Terror Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Djidji - Jul 5, 2014 |
551 |
by NoviSun
»»
Aug 17, 9:07 PM |
|
Poll: » Zankyou no Terror Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Sep 18, 2014 |
380 |
by SphinX_Deuce
»»
Aug 10, 4:56 AM |
|
Poll: » Zankyou no Terror Episode 7 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Aug 21, 2014 |
420 |
by SphinX_Deuce
»»
Aug 10, 4:15 AM |
|
Poll: » Zankyou no Terror Episode 4 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Jul 31, 2014 |
425 |
by LickermanN
»»
May 30, 9:12 PM |