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May 27, 2012 7:29 PM

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any 1 care to explain the pride part.
is it something like his search for trying to figure out Chitanda is his pride
IN general the pride and other sins as they talked about were merely at fault of one element in moderation and hence those are sins only when in excess of them they are abused. Like Chitanda mentions pride is good a little off because without it there would be no progress.

Nothing else or deep reading matters in the pride. There was nothing else to base on anything else deeper. The only pride Eru has in this episode is "Hating on people that waste food" but it's a pride worthy of being used.


Not sure if its the subs. but near the end houtaru mentions pride while he was assessing chitanda. i guess i am reading into it too much but i jsut cant help being curious about the romance status between those two >.<. really curious how houtaro sees chitanda
Quite simply the following,

the very pink matter in his life. However he has a hard formulating a type on her. Perhaps unravelling the notion of love may prove the greatest trouble for him. This just due to my IMO of him having close manners to Sherlock Holmes himself once again. Meet also Satoshi being Watson somewhat.

To being on point, Sherlock Holmes always had problems figuring out love itself really hence why Houtarou has problems, assuming of course till proven.

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May 27, 2012 7:48 PM
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I was really confused on what Hotarou meant towards the end of the episode, when he was referring pride to Chitanda. Anyone wanna analyze that?
Seems like more than one person is bothered by that. I don't think it's something too complex.

When he mentioned "pride" he was referring to himself, probably meaning that he was getting too full of himself by trying to explain Chitanda's thought process, when he doesn't really know much about her. At the end he empathizes on "sloth" being enough sin for him, as a reminder to avoid becoming too proud of his deduction abilities... Or something along those lines I think.
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May 27, 2012 7:49 PM

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Pretty boring episode tbh. They just went on and on about trivial matters, which one of them didn't even get solved by the end (why Chitanda got angry). Overall this episode was a big step down compared to last week's. At this point I really hope they'd thrown in some romance to spice up the atmosphere because so far it has been a bit dull...

May 27, 2012 8:03 PM

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The episode wasn't that exciting but it was refreshing to see hotarou's brain to work again :) I thought it was pretty adorable how he viewed Chitanda as an angel for those slight few seconds and how he thought she was his "soulmate." But once again, not too exciting for a Hyouka episode. Could have been better, in my opinion.
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May 27, 2012 8:09 PM

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The mini chitandas are cute!

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May 27, 2012 8:15 PM
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Mayaka is so niceeeee love me some tsundere
May 27, 2012 8:25 PM

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Usually, I don't mind, and sometimes enjoy some of the mundane stuff they solve, this however, was not one of them.

It didn't stop me from enjoying other parts of this episode though. The argument in the begining was hilarious to me, because I could see this happening in real life somewhere. Theres gonna be some 'pair' in a one sided argument, some one trying to stop it, but can't and one dude who just dosn't give a shit. I also enjoyed the discussion about the greed and pride stuff and how once Oreki heard Eru say "I'd waste too much energy" He suddenly found her as this goddess. It would have killed me if this was like an abridged series and he said "I... love you..." Not for pairing reasons but because it'd be funny as shit. but it was even funnier when he was shot down as she was Joking.

It felt like a mental rock was thrown at my head when we were trying to figure out why Eru was angry. I mostly defend this show for its down to earth mysteries as they are things people just don't think about, and I can understand suddenly blowing up and forggeting why you did it, but... the span was only in a few hours, you couldn't have forgotten THAT quickly, and figuring out why the teacher would make the mistake is a bit TOO mundane. I could say its to fall into something else later, buuuut... yeah.

Mystery was a downer, but I did like how they broke it down anyway. With This show they can make the small stuff entertaining, and with Hotaru, you can just tell he's just trying to come up with a believabe excuse to feed off Eru with (ah the haruhi-esc feel...). I also like how Hotaru is comparing himself to her and trying to figure her out, I think that may be the biggest mystery this show'll have, even IF murder was involved. Finding reasons for death and a killer can take less than a day or two, figuring out the mind of the oppisite gender though... not so much.

Overall this ep definetly had some good points but the mystery this time around was too mundane for me to find enjoyment in. I can't speak for how easy cases are to solve as I can't solve a mystery for the life of me, but generally I just didn't care.

7.5/10
May 27, 2012 8:59 PM

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I think this episode was pretty good. I liked the whole "seven sins" thing for the first ten minutes, epic how Oreki thought he found his "soul mate" when Chitanda said she didn't like getting tired. Also, funny how "Chitandael" and "Chitanda Eru" sound exactly the same with a Japanese pronunciation. The conversation had a slight Bakemonogatari vibe to it which took place of the usual generic mystery, which was nice.

And since the first ten minutes were done, the next mystery wasn't boring and drawn out as some of them are. I saw the A and D thing pretty easily, though, but it was still a pretty decent mystery.
May 27, 2012 9:11 PM

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What I found interesting was the confirmation of some of the negative things I've heard about teaching methods in Japan. I will cut the teacher some slack since it was the review part of the lesson, but he should have recognized something was wrong much more quickly (particularly after calling on a good math student for the answer and drawing a blank). That's the point where I would have looked around the class and checked to see if we had covered this or not. As to the notes about where the class left off, it's my understanding that Japanese teachers get significantly more time to prepare their lesson plans than North American teachers, so he should have been working off a plan for what to do for the lesson, not just a note regarding what page they were at in the book. Of course those of you who don't have a periodic gig supervising, training, or evaluating teachers could probably care less....

Of course I focused on the teacher so much because the mystery was not quite as enthralling as others. I did like Oreki's vision of the angel though.
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May 27, 2012 9:17 PM

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SO MUCH MOE!!!!!! Chibi Chitanda >.< was smiling the whole time cant


Oreki will alway help chitanda :)
May 27, 2012 9:30 PM

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That moment when you watch the MC running toward a landmine and you are laughing your ass off.
May 27, 2012 9:35 PM

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I found this episode surprisingly funny. I don't even know why, maybe because I was in a laughable mood. Nonetheless, though it's a simple episode, I found it incredibly enjoyable. I guess I'm enjoying the relationship between Chitanda and Oreki. Oreki is the pillar, and Chitanda is the person who ever so often tries to knock the pillar off its 'feet'.
May 27, 2012 9:37 PM

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The mystery today was too easy. I figured it out by the time they explained the class names.

Though, I love the part where Oreki's body is full of mini-Chitanda angels.
Also, when Chitanda told everyone that getting angry is tiring,
Oreki said he found
Ahahaha, cannot get enough of Chitanda's pushover attitude to Oreki.
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May 27, 2012 9:57 PM

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Kinda getting boring but Chitanda's moeness ceases to tire me.

May 27, 2012 10:23 PM

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Houtarou when are you going to man up and ask her out?

I'm interested, what was he reading?

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May 27, 2012 10:26 PM

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The trivial mystery is not as good as the previous eps, but it was very enjoyable
Lol, poor Oreki trolled by Chitanda ;)
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May 27, 2012 10:45 PM

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wow i HATE chitanda. i may have to drop it just because of her. this episode was pointless. whine whine whine omg shut up. just when it looked like it would get good, too. waste of flawless art, tbh.

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May 27, 2012 11:10 PM

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I really enjoyed the argument and the discussion on the Seven Deadly sins in the beginning of the episode, lots of good character interactions and development too. But like most people I found the mystery to be a little too trivial this time, though Houtarou's breakdown of the mystery was very enjoyable as always.

However, I really hope that an interesting overarching plot develops soon. I feel like the animation, characters and music are all top notch but the fact that there's no overarching plot keeps this show from entering "masterpiece" territory. There's still plenty of time to introduce something (maybe there are more secrets to be revealed about Sekitani Jun and Hyouka) but I do hope they bring it up soon, I don't want this series to end up a disappointment.
May 27, 2012 11:23 PM

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This episode was entertaining indeed but nothing special. 3/5 I guess.
But I enjoy the cuteness of Chitanda and how she convinced Oreki.
As for the start with Ibarra being mad, I'm a bit surprise, but not so much because I was expecting it. I read the novel.
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May 27, 2012 11:24 PM

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This episode was meh too me. Felt really boring, but it talked about the 7 Sins and such, Oreki being the sloth hue hue. Chitanda is cute as always.

Next episode looks like a bath place, maybe a mystery about a ghost. Inb4 fan service in the next episode and watch people complain.
May 27, 2012 11:38 PM

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LOL @ people that still expecting mystery from Hyouka.

Hyouka is a story about adolescence, and mostly slice of life. Get your expectation right before watching Hyouka, since you can only expect average to great "mystery" from main story arcs. Mystery is a plot device for Hyouka, not the main theme.

I'm not disappointed with this episode since I laughed pretty hard in this episode, not something that I often do even in comedy anime.Anyway, the main purpose for this episode is moar character exploring and development, afterall. Also change of pace.
May 27, 2012 11:46 PM

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Not bad an episode. And not so great.

I didn't think that he can mix up A and D that way, Oreki is smart whether it's the truth or not.
I think this is how this show plays, coming up with reasonable reasons that can convince Eru-chan regardless of the fact.

It's trivial though, but I actually find the equation easier to plot with domain specified.
May 28, 2012 12:03 AM

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LOL @ people that still expecting mystery from Hyouka.

Hyouka is a story about adolescence, and mostly slice of life. Get your expectation right before watching Hyouka, since you can only expect average to great "mystery" from main story arcs. Mystery is a plot device for Hyouka, not the main theme.


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May 28, 2012 12:33 AM

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I really enjoy watching Hyouka even though there isn't anything special about this show.
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May 28, 2012 1:43 AM

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Kind of a slow episode, but it was still really entertaining. I loved seeing the way they all pick on each other now that they're becoming better friends c:
May 28, 2012 2:00 AM

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zeroyuki92 said:
LOL @ people that still expecting mystery from Hyouka.

Hyouka is a story about adolescence, and mostly slice of life. Get your expectation right before watching Hyouka, since you can only expect average to great "mystery" from main story arcs. Mystery is a plot device for Hyouka, not the main theme.


Then "lol" on you too.
May 28, 2012 2:45 AM

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This episode was super-retarded.

It's all about how Chitanda didn't know why she was mad.

Who the fuck doesn't know why they were mad at something? (Unless quite some time has passed since then, which obviously wasn't the case.)

Chitanda's pushiness is extremely annoying. She's pretty damn selfish: she doesn't care about troubling anyone else--just sating her own curiosity. And most of the time, its curiosity about completely inane and trivial matters. (The matter with her uncle being the only exception.)

Dumb show is dumb.
May 28, 2012 2:52 AM

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zeroyuki92 said:
LOL @ people that still expecting mystery from Hyouka.

Hyouka is a story about adolescence, and mostly slice of life. Get your expectation right before watching Hyouka, since you can only expect average to great "mystery" from main story arcs. Mystery is a plot device for Hyouka, not the main theme.


So there are some RIGHT expectations :D since when?
I was expecting mystery show and it fails at this.
In returns it gives a decent SoL story about one guy who is lazy but hides it under some philosophy - at least he starts to be more active, that's nice.

Not that i was expecting too much from it (since it's KyoAni)
May 28, 2012 3:19 AM

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That discussion was pretty interesting, however this episodes mystery wasn't so special. Anyway, Oreki helped Chitanda with her anger mystery.


May 28, 2012 3:55 AM

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Too much MOE omygod, Im dying....

Romance, romance?! Im sure I felt some romance there.

The Mystery isn't finished yet!

Btw the best part for me is that little Chitanda's. <333
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May 28, 2012 3:55 AM
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Wasabi said:
Next episode: The case of the missing box of cookies that Chitanda left in the clubroom at the end of the episode!
Nah. Next episode is going to be: Why did a woman enter the bath twice at the onsen?... and why did Chitanda dream about a cow?
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May 28, 2012 4:09 AM

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Lol,all those "Kininarimasu" angels.,.
May 28, 2012 5:27 AM

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i can't believe no one gif-ed this yet asdfghjkl NANDE SO PRECIOUSSSS HOUTAROU KONO YARO ;A; <333



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May 28, 2012 6:24 AM

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Who the fuck doesn't know why they were mad at something? (Unless quite some time has passed since then, which obviously wasn't the case.)


Anger is a feeling and just like any other feeling, it can be hard to understand and put into word. If I ask you why you like something I do not expect you to give me logical reason where the obvious outcome will be that you like it. The same goes for anger, even though sometime it's obvious, sometime it's the result of a lot of factor your brain can't process into a logical procedure.
Try to toroughly analyze all your feeling and their cause, most of the time you will not be able to stir up any logical conclusion on the case without relying on other feeling which will also rely on other feeling only to realise that in the end, you couldn't explain anything logicaly.
May 28, 2012 6:44 AM

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Chitanda gets more attractive each episode
May 28, 2012 7:10 AM

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jfc that was a stupid episode.
May 28, 2012 7:54 AM

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Random question. Does anyone know how to pencil spin like Oreki at the beginning of the episode?
May 28, 2012 8:03 AM

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It's slow but still enjoyable, and the flashback part with the mannequins where pretty darn cool. The soundtrack in this episode was also really well done, and Chitanda is getting cuter by every episode :3
May 28, 2012 8:14 AM

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Mauno said:
SwordWielder said:
Random question. Does anyone know how to pencil spin like Oreki at the beginning of the episode?
I tried hard to learn it during my physics classes at high school, but never got the techique right. There were at least two persons in the class who did it all the time so it's not completely impossible..

It took me 2 days to learn thumb around and 4 days to do reverse thumb around.
May 28, 2012 8:17 AM
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Once again a really enjoyable episode. The characters along with the visual presentation are the things what keeps the show interesting and there are still 15 episodes left for more captivating cases to come after all.
May 28, 2012 8:52 AM

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i like chitanda's impatience XD
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The next episode has the characters visit a spa. The episode title is "True Colors". I THINK THERE WILL BE PERVERTS... is what I'd like to think.

"th...they're rose-colored?!"
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May 28, 2012 10:34 AM

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A pretty valid reason for her to get angry. A teacher was it wrong even though he doesn't give anyone the chance to prove it.

Meh, I liked it, but it was a pretty boring mystery. Hopefully it'll pick up next time! Looks like a ghost mystery eh?

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The next episode has the characters visit a spa. The episode title is "True Colors". I THINK THERE WILL BE PERVERTS... is what I'd like to think.

"th...they're rose-colored?!"
Considering Satoshi and Houtarou may have never seen a naked girl, could be quite a reaction surprise not to miss out.

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May 28, 2012 10:52 AM

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Next episode might be fan service, but so far there has been none and I guess they'll keep it that way.
I could be mistaken, but Houtarou did refer to Chitanda as a soul mate when she said that it was to preserve energy. I'm looking forward to the next episode, the main reason I watch this is still animation quality though.
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May 28, 2012 11:35 AM

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Anger is a feeling and just like any other feeling, it can be hard to understand and put into word.
No, it really isn't.

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If I ask you why you like something I do not expect you to give me logical reason where the obvious outcome will be that you like it.
No. 99% of the time, anyone will be able to give you at least SOME kind of reason for why they like they like something.

Maddo_scientisto said:
The same goes for anger, even though sometime it's obvious, sometime it's the result of a lot of factor your brain can't process into a logical procedure.
You're trying too hard. It usually just boils down to something happening that you don't like.

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Try to toroughly analyze all your feeling and their cause, most of the time you will not be able to stir up any logical conclusion on the case without relying on other feeling which will also rely on other feeling only to realise that in the end, you couldn't explain anything logicaly.
False. Saying you can't analyze a certain feeling because it may be connected to another is complete nonsense. Feelings are connected, whether you want them to be or not.
May 28, 2012 12:59 PM

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the anime is great aside from the fact that this 'mystery' was totally useless and boring.
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May 28, 2012 1:15 PM

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so what was i thinking 5 mins ago...i totally forgot...but i'm curious!!! 気になります☆~ please help me solve this mystery!!!! = Hyouka
May 28, 2012 1:47 PM

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mundane mystery.
May 28, 2012 2:12 PM
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This is the least interesting episode for me so far.
Maybe because I just found it absurd and stupid to search for why the math teacher got something wrong and why she get angry to begin with... (you know, it's normal for teachers to make mistakes)

Next week looks interesting (not for the fanservice, I hope it's a mystery about ghost :P)


Kleeny, you didn't get it, do you? The main thing about this episode was not A and D and finding the reason behind getting angry, it was more Oreki's uncovering a bit of the mystery called "Chitanada Eru." The whole point of the episode was said at 22:13.00.

@shanimebib beat me to it - this show is not primarily about the mysteries the club solves. They are just the vehicle delivering what the real story is about.

It's certainly no action/adventure or comedy, but I find it really entertaining.
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