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Jan 28, 2021 9:57 AM

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This second cour of higurashi is really stepping the game up. It hasn’t disappointed me in the slightest in the last 4/5 episodes or so.

I kinda saw the twist coming at the end. It was pretty obvious Satoko was faking L5 last episode, since she didn’t have the cat eyes.
The gun at the end tho lmao completely random

Can’t wait to see how it goes
Jan 28, 2021 9:57 AM

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jaw201 said:
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Gou plot explained in one sentence:

LMAO
Just because you didn't see it coming doesn't mean it's bad lol.
You are just bad at seeing the clues.
Nekodamashi is probably the best Higurashi arc PERIOD.

"You don't get it!" "Five episodes of Rika being tortured is pure kino!!"
I guess Gou is the filter for Higurashi fans who like the writing and the others who just enjoy watching loli torture porn.

Anyway, this was a decent introduction to the next mystery. I'm still floored that Rika's only takeaway from the last arc was "I love Hinamizawa," then we jumped right into the next plot. I'm glad she's smart enough to realize this timeline isn't quite right for a few reasons. Satoko retained her memories but only seemed to awaken once Rika tested her. I have no idea where Rika got the idea that Satoko was being possed, but at least new things are happening.
Jan 28, 2021 10:00 AM

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Looks like Satoko is
I see...

Well I did predict that Takano wasn't the mastermind this time around, but Satoko being the culprit would be too obvious. In fact, I still don't think that she is the culprit. After all, we still haven't even gotten to the answer arcs yet. Not only that, but the fact that she is looping and rolling the dice means that she is the victim here. The mastermind still hasn't been caught. He/She is still out there.

I think I get why Takano isn't the mastermind anymore. As I said in the previous thread, it's strongly hinted that Rika is no longer the host. That also means that Takano cannot execute Emergency Manual 34, which means that she has no reason to stay in Hinamizawa anymore.

LOL Satako pulled out that gun out of nowhere. The directing still hasn't improved one bit I see.

Well, it looks like we are finally getting somewhere. This was definitely one of the better episodes thus far.
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Jan 28, 2021 10:03 AM

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Calling it right now but they are going to keep the bullshit message that Rika "abandoning" the shitty village that she suffered for a century in and actually wanting to start a new life is bad and that's why she deserves to be sent back. Rika is going to shank Satoko with the magic sword at the end and Rika forgives her for randomly sending her back to her endless torture. Rika wakes up in high school or something and goes back to Hinamizawa because fuck letting Rika start a new life.
Jan 28, 2021 10:04 AM

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When is Satoko having flashbacks to regarding the Jack-in-the-box? Is that from an earlier Gou arc or an earlier season?
Jan 28, 2021 10:05 AM

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Gar_Logan said:
When is Satoko having flashbacks to regarding the Jack-in-the-box? Is that from an earlier Gou arc or an earlier season?

It was from one of the first episodes of Gou. I think it was right after the "find the marker" game in the beginning of the show.
Jan 28, 2021 10:12 AM

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Imagine ignoring every discussion ever had in the previous episodes just to make a victory lap after nobody won anything.....Only Takano was explained and in the end it amounts to nothing regarding Rika's or Satoko's situation in Gou.

I guess Satoko isnt just a L5/insane looper but also a magician.....If that's Satoko at all. Where the hell was that gun hidden?

If anyone has to celebrate is me because I was the one saying that Satoko was faking it in Tataridamashi. But noooo, R07 would never do that....

Also RIP again newcomers who have no idea what happened in 80% of this episode and got spoiled even more arcs of the OG.

At least it was better than the last two episodes. That isnt hard tho.
Jan 28, 2021 10:16 AM

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ArcueidBestGirl said:
Gar_Logan said:
When is Satoko having flashbacks to regarding the Jack-in-the-box? Is that from an earlier Gou arc or an earlier season?

It was from one of the first episodes of Gou. I think it was right after the "find the marker" game in the beginning of the show.


Such a stupid way to blow her cover. If at least it was shown that it hurt like hell in that episode this reaction would make sense.
Jan 28, 2021 10:19 AM

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So, is this a budget Madoka "I'm gonna trap you in a loop forever" plot?
Jan 28, 2021 10:20 AM

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jTiKey said:
Juuza Amakusa from Umineko cameo:

He was in Matsuribayashi (the VN), so he's not just from Umi
Jan 28, 2021 10:22 AM

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jTiKey said:
So, is this a budget Madoka "I'm gonna trap you in a loop forever" plot?
No this is budget Steins;Gate with Mayuri trapping Okabe after getting cucked.
Jan 28, 2021 10:25 AM

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Gar_Logan said:
When is Satoko having flashbacks to regarding the Jack-in-the-box? Is that from an earlier Gou arc or an earlier season?


She got paint on her face after getting pranked by it in the first arc lmao. The ptsd vision and her kneeling over like her uncle is about to curb stomp her is one of the dumbest fucking thing I have seen.
Jan 28, 2021 10:25 AM

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Honestly i hated how predictable this episode was, we knew from Watadamashi that Satoko was sus and there was millions of Satoko looper theories and now it's just confirmed?! WTC was never this predictable. And the Takano stuff we kinda knew about too (we knew from Onidamashi that she isn't planning GHD this time).
Jan 28, 2021 10:27 AM
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ssjokg said:
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I guess Satoko isnt just a L5/insane looper but also a magician.....If that's Satoko at all. Where the hell was that gun hidden?

Thigh Holster. Obviously.
Jan 28, 2021 10:28 AM

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ssjokg said:
jTiKey said:
So, is this a budget Madoka "I'm gonna trap you in a loop forever" plot?
No this is budget Steins;Gate with Mayuri trapping Okabe after getting cucked.


oh, I'd watch that.
Jan 28, 2021 10:28 AM

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jaw201 said:
ssjokg said:
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I guess Satoko isnt just a L5/insane looper but also a magician.....If that's Satoko at all. Where the hell was that gun hidden?

Thigh Holster. Obviously.
Yes of course. Obviously.
Jan 28, 2021 10:30 AM

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ssjokg said:
jTiKey said:
So, is this a budget Madoka "I'm gonna trap you in a loop forever" plot?
No this is budget Steins;Gate with Mayuri trapping Okabe after getting cucked.
No this is actually budget re:zero with all the suffering and shit


I know. It’s all wrong. By rights we shouldn’t even be here. But we are.


Jan 28, 2021 10:30 AM

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ssjokg said:
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Imagine ignoring every discussion ever had in the previous episodes just to make a victory lap after nobody won anything.....Only Takano was explained and in the end it amounts to nothing regarding Rika's or Satoko's situation in Gou.

Was Takano explained? We only know she chose to give up, but as Rika said, the "Takano she knew" would never do that. Unless she has post Matsuribashi's memories, but how?

Jan 28, 2021 10:30 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:

He was in Matsuribayashi (the VN), so he's not just from Umi

oh really, good to know.
Jan 28, 2021 10:31 AM

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These people thinking they are hotshit because they "understand" better the storyline and have better taste, while dissing the people who like this season are just like aot manga fanboys who were complaining and nitpicking about everything.

Btw great episode, guess the theory of Satoko being the looper was the correct one. Kudos to them. Also the first segment was a flashback, I don't think it was someone remembering that loop.
Jan 28, 2021 10:31 AM

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very good ep, finally we have closure about Satoko being a red herring or not, this is finally getting really interesting
Jan 28, 2021 10:32 AM

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Jin_uzuki said:
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@jaw201
Imagine ignoring every discussion ever had in the previous episodes just to make a victory lap after nobody won anything.....Only Takano was explained and in the end it amounts to nothing regarding Rika's or Satoko's situation in Gou.

Was Takano explained? We only know she chose to give up, but as Rika said, the "Takano she knew" would never do that. Unless she has post Matsuribashi's memories, but how?
I mean her motive for leaving was explained.

Now why she made a 180? Who knows....Seems like the series doesn't really care. Or maybe this is also a trick and after "defeating" Satoko, Takano returns as the true final boss.
Jan 28, 2021 10:33 AM

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If Satoko is the antagonist in some way, has she been looping for a while...? Or does she have memories of the 5~ years before Rika got sent back to this loop? I ignore any way Rika acts because she's technically 100 years old, but Satoko is still a child, right?
Jan 28, 2021 10:37 AM

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Gar_Logan said:
If Satoko is the antagonist in some way, has she been looping for a while...? Or does she have memories of the 5~ years before Rika got sent back to this loop? I ignore any way Rika acts because she's technically 100 years old, but Satoko is still a child, right?
Probably, maybe, we will find out. Or not. Who knows?

This could very well end up as "Satoko was lonely cause Rika went to a proper school and some higher power gave her looping powers", so it is anyone's guess till the series amazes us or disappoints us with an explanation.

Maybe we will get that Satoko was always a looper and just misses those good old days when everyone was dying.
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Jan 28, 2021 10:39 AM

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I fucking knew it. Now the headpat scene makes sense. Man, 2nd cour is really kicking up a gear

Jan 28, 2021 10:41 AM

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I fucking knew it. Now the headpat scene makes sense. Man, 2nd cour is really kicking up a gear


Sorry my memory is bad, but what scene do you mean?
Jan 28, 2021 10:41 AM
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@ssjokg
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Cope.
Your tears are very delicious.
"muh gore"
"muh toture porn"
I guess Gou really is the filter for those who actually are smart and know how to solve a mystery and those that complain endlessly about a single character getting hurt.
Nekodamashi gave payoff for all of the three previous arcs, essentially answering all of our questions at once.
Nekodamashi was a perfect answer arc. I'll enjoy the cope from your endless posts in this thread.
Any sane person should ignore the opinions of the 4 above. Since they have such obviously bad takes that their opinions deserve to be discarded.
Jan 28, 2021 10:41 AM
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It is previous obvious now, the masterming is Lambdadelta using Satoko as proxy. All the discussion about someone rolling the dice and everything good happening sounds "Certainty" (Lambdadelta attribute) to me.

But I think Satoko it is a looper not in the same sense than Rika. She does not remember everthing like Rika, but remember when Lambda (her master) makes her remember and this trigger the red eye Satoko. Remembering the trap box trigger the transformation in this episode and Rika did all this to confirm her hypothesis.
Jan 28, 2021 10:42 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
Honestly i hated how predictable this episode was, we knew from Watadamashi that Satoko was sus and there was millions of Satoko looper theories and now it's just confirmed?! WTC was never this predictable. And the Takano stuff we kinda knew about too (we knew from Onidamashi that she isn't planning GHD this time).
You said pretty much what I wanted to say, but I had no sleep, so don't expect me to make a lot of sense. It was predictable af. I agree.

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If anyone has to celebrate is me because I was the one saying that Satoko was faking it in Tataridamashi. But noooo, R07 would never do that....
One thing I wasn't paying attention back in time. Ooishi is shown carrying the bat, but there's no blood on his clothes at all, contrary to Satoko. That ends up being not too relevant because it's possible that they forgot to stain his clothes with blood. Yes, I expect them to be that incompetent.

Oh and forgot to mention, yeah, that gun coming out of nowhere was ridiculous lmao.
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Jan 28, 2021 10:42 AM

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ssjokg said:
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If Satoko is the antagonist in some way, has she been looping for a while...? Or does she have memories of the 5~ years before Rika got sent back to this loop? I ignore any way Rika acts because she's technically 100 years old, but Satoko is still a child, right?
Probably, maybe, we will find out. Or not. Who knows?

This could very well end up as "Satoko was lonely cause Rika went to a proper school and some higher power gave her looping powers", so it is anyone's guess till the series amazes us or disappoints us with an explanation.

Maybe we will get that Satoko was always a looper and just misses those good old days where everyone was dying.


It would honestly make Satoko one of the most irredeemable characters in this franchise to be honest. I really wonder if R07 can get out of this situation without making you feel like everything in the original didn't matter and Teppei was the hero we deserved.
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Jan 28, 2021 10:43 AM

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Where did she hide the weapon? WHY WAS SHE CARRYING A WEAPON IN THE FIRST PLACE? That was so dumb lmao.

Jan 28, 2021 10:48 AM

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Where did she hide the weapon? WHY WAS SHE CARRYING A WEAPON IN THE FIRST PLACE? That was so dumb lmao.
I didn't even think of that LMAO. I think they wanted it to end on a cliff hanger and hoped we wouldn't notice.
Jan 28, 2021 10:49 AM

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Jin_uzuki said:
ssjokg said:
Probably, maybe, we will find out. Or not. Who knows?

This could very well end up as "Satoko was lonely cause Rika went to a proper school and some higher power gave her looping powers", so it is anyone's guess till the series amazes us or disappoints us with an explanation.

Maybe we will get that Satoko was always a looper and just misses those good old days where everyone was dying.


It would honestly make Satoko one of the most irremediable characters in this franchise to be honest. I really wonder if R07 can get out of this situation without making you feel like everything in the original didn't matter


This is what I've been thinking ever since Satako Looper series started popping up. I don't see how the story can end without her being completely irredeemable.
Jan 28, 2021 10:49 AM

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Gar_Logan said:
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I fucking knew it. Now the headpat scene makes sense. Man, 2nd cour is really kicking up a gear


Sorry my memory is bad, but what scene do you mean?

https://youtu.be/EsizI5fq8ak
At the end of the 2nd episode of Tataridamashi (episode 10) the voice acting was like she's faking it and she hit K1 hand before he touched her (that's kinda normal but the voice acting was very weird and me and @ssjokg said she probably was faking it)
Jan 28, 2021 10:52 AM

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattattttttt!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, when Rika went to the shrine and started remembering what Hanyuu said, it automatically made me think that there was another looper besides her. Then, her conversation with Satoko made the latter look very suspicious and finally.... BAM! That happened, damn. You could see it coming but it was still shocking.

And again... whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattt!!!

So, 2 military forces were behind all this? Tomitake, Takano, the lolicon doctor, that group of workers we had seen in previous arcs... Now that I remember, hadn't those people gone to attack Mion's place in her arc? We also have Hinamizawa syndrome in drug form, Satoko's brother alive in an underground lab but with the syndrome.... my brain is going to explode haha. This episode has too much to process for a first timer xD.
Jan 28, 2021 10:53 AM

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Gar_Logan said:
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I fucking knew it. Now the headpat scene makes sense. Man, 2nd cour is really kicking up a gear


Sorry my memory is bad, but what scene do you mean?

The scene from ep 10 when Keichi is about to pat Satoko's head,she stopa him, freaks out and vomits
Well in the OG she freaked out after the headpat

Jan 28, 2021 10:54 AM

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It's a shame that I haven't been enjoying these recent episodes much but I'm just glad this arc is wrapped up and this episode didn't spam over-the top and unnecessary gore for many minutes straight.

So the theories were right and Satoko was the antagonist huh? ngl I wasn't expecting all those theories to be true and I thought Satoko was only acting sus as a way to throw the audience off guard so it would be more surprising that another character was the looper. It felt somewhat obvious over time that it was Satoko but hopefully Satokowashi hen is at least better than episode 15,16 and 17. I wish I could say I'm looking forward to next week but idk anymore..




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I know a lot of people aren’t feeling Gou, but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it, more than the OG tbh. I’m looking forward to where this goes


I actually thought the original was boring a lot of the time, because I didn't really enjoy the slice of life or the murders most of the time. But I kept watching because of the mystery, and when the senarios started to change in gou that's when it really got interesting for me.
Jan 28, 2021 10:58 AM

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Moon_man2 said:
Marinate1016 said:
I know a lot of people aren’t feeling Gou, but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it, more than the OG tbh. I’m looking forward to where this goes


I actually thought the original was boring a lot of the time, because I didn't really enjoy the slice of life or the murders most of the time. But I kept watching because of the mystery, and when the senarios started to change in gou that's when it really got interesting for me.
... But literally half of Gou is the original story 1:1 without the original mysteries and extremely small changes...

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I fucking knew it. Now the headpat scene makes sense. Man, 2nd cour is really kicking up a gear



Another big giveaway to me would be the end of tataridamashi hen where Satoko just so happened to lead Keiichi conveniently towards his death with the whole uncle thing. Just the way Satoko lead him to his death like that really made her stick out



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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
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Sorry my memory is bad, but what scene do you mean?

https://youtu.be/EsizI5fq8ak
At the end of the 2nd episode of Tataridamashi (episode 10) the voice acting was like she's faking it and she hit K1 hand before he touched her (that's kinda normal but the voice acting was very weird and me and @ssjokg said she probably was faking it)
Can I say how bad it feels for it to be so predictable since back then?

I really dont want Satoko to be like that because "She was lonely" but cant see a a proper in character reason other than that.

Jan 28, 2021 11:05 AM

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About damn time Rika figured something.

I mean, about everyone by now expected Satoko because she was SUS as hell through the whole thing.

Now, how to deal with this little shit!
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Jin_uzuki said:
Moon_man2 said:


I actually thought the original was boring a lot of the time, because I didn't really enjoy the slice of life or the murders most of the time. But I kept watching because of the mystery, and when the senarios started to change in gou that's when it really got interesting for me.
... But literally half of Gou is the original story 1:1 without the original mysteries and extremely small changes...


It's the fact that the characters acted difrently and that led to difrently endings that I got fascinated with.
Jan 28, 2021 11:08 AM

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ssjokg said:
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https://youtu.be/EsizI5fq8ak
At the end of the 2nd episode of Tataridamashi (episode 10) the voice acting was like she's faking it and she hit K1 hand before he touched her (that's kinda normal but the voice acting was very weird and me and @ssjokg said she probably was faking it)
Can I say how bad it feels for it to be so predictable since back then?

I really dont want Satoko to be like that because "She was lonely" but cant see a a proper in character reason other than that.


Yeah i never thought that predicting the answers beforehand would feel this bad (i said that in a previous comment).
It's not like anyone uncovered a hidden clue and we solved the mystery with it, it was SO OBVIOUS and Satoko theories were all over the place i started to think it's just red herring and R07 won't just give the solution away.
I don't think he can give any reason that will make Satoko redeemable unless she is being mind controlled by some witch or some weird shit.
I guess there won't be another season, the next arc will just explain Satoko's motivations and how she fucked Rika in the previous loops (which is kinda obvious now too, she was holding the same gun she killed(or at least tried to kill) Mion with in Watadamashi).
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Moon_man2 said:
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... But literally half of Gou is the original story 1:1 without the original mysteries and extremely small changes...


It's the fact that the characters acted difrently and that led to difrently endings that I got fascinated with.


That's...literally the whole basic premise of Higurashi...
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My theory it is after Hannyu vanishes (or Featherine recovering), Lambdadelta change tactics and change her piece from Takano to Satoko. This why Takano abandons everything (and Rika observation that Takano would never abandon her plans in 100 years )

EDIT: And Satoko mentioning Oyashiro-sama several times was always suspect.
Jan 28, 2021 11:16 AM

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Considering the reveal of this ep, I think this meme of Tataridamashi is likely true XD
Jan 28, 2021 11:17 AM

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Tbh "witches made me do it" is almost as bad as "I put you through an inhuman torture because I was lonely :(".

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ssjokg said:
Tsukumo_Yuuma said:

https://youtu.be/EsizI5fq8ak
At the end of the 2nd episode of Tataridamashi (episode 10) the voice acting was like she's faking it and she hit K1 hand before he touched her (that's kinda normal but the voice acting was very weird and me and @ssjokg said she probably was faking it)
Can I say how bad it feels for it to be so predictable since back then?

I really dont want Satoko to be like that because "She was lonely" but cant see a a proper in character reason other than that.


maybe someone is pulling the strings. Well, we will find out next episode

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NANSHIRo said:
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Can I say how bad it feels for it to be so predictable since back then?

I really dont want Satoko to be like that because "She was lonely" but cant see a a proper in character reason other than that.


maybe someone is pulling the strings. Well, we will find out next episode

That doesn't make it better, and ofc there's someone helping/controlling Satoko she can't just loop by herself.
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