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Jun 19, 2016 8:25 PM

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Gesu- said:
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you guys sounds like you know this Emiya guys, are you teaming up and ganging on me?
How original. Conjure up a more creative bait next time, and maybe you can garner a better result.

lol what?
we're just trying to have fun..
You can leave if you want to.
Or probably not because you've already been sucked into the world of lolis..
fun? this is not your social media, get your fun somewhere else.
Jun 19, 2016 8:26 PM

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Holy fucking shit...

@onefreeemiya @onetruelolicon get the fuck out of here!
YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED AND YOUR LIFE IS RUINED!
The lolis are comin for that ass!
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Jun 19, 2016 8:29 PM

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KonaKoffee said:
Holy fucking shit...

@onefreeemiya @onetruelolicon get the fuck out of here!
YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED AND YOUR LIFE IS RUINED!
The lolis are comin for that ass!

Omg, did someone say exposed?
CALL #DRAMAALERT, #KEEMSTAR NOW!!
Jun 19, 2016 8:30 PM

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Zilf said:
fun? this is not your social media, get your fun somewhere else.


So...talking about anime isn't meant to be fun, at all?
Anime forum can never be fun?
Aw shiet you guys, what have I been doing with my life? I forgot that animu and lolis are seriuzz businuzz.

Honestly though, everyone else did a pretty good job of discussing the topic, even while a waifu war was going on during the 2nd and 3rd pages. But holy shit, you are fucking triggered to the MAX.
You need a hug, fam.
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Jun 19, 2016 8:31 PM

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KonaKoffee said:
Holy fucking shit...

@onefreeemiya @onetruelolicon get the fuck out of here!
YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED AND YOUR LIFE IS RUINED!
The lolis are comin for that ass!


Let them come. I can use a good loli harem. ^_^
Jun 19, 2016 8:43 PM

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Gesu- said:

Omg, did someone say exposed?
CALL #DRAMAALERT, #KEEMSTAR NOW!!

lol That's who I had in mind when I said that.

OneFreeEmiya said:


Let them come. I can use a good loli harem. ^_^

Good loli harem? smh, those don't exist fam.

I already told you guys I can give lessons on how to actually pick a good waifu harem.
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Jun 19, 2016 8:49 PM

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Again? Do you guys ever step outside?....
Jun 19, 2016 8:58 PM

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OneTrueLolicon said:

Drown in lolis, and die. >:)


Sure, I'll drown in lolis


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outside

Silly kagami, weebs don't know what that is.
:D

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Jun 19, 2016 9:45 PM

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So much autism all in this thread page after page.
Jun 19, 2016 10:09 PM

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This thread is incredibly hilarious.
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So much autism all in this thread page after page.


Is it autism? I thought everyone had a stroke and the resulting brain damage dropped their IQ 40 points.
Jun 19, 2016 10:27 PM

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@OneTrueEmiya : The mongrel, original version
@OneFreeEmiya : Mongrel level 2
@OneTrueLolicon : Mongrel level 3
@KonaKoffee : Minion of the mongrel.
@Gesu- : The minion of shit taste
And
@Z-Dante : Your Lord and Savior and The King of Heroes!

Filthy plebs, it takes you this much time to establish the lolicon front and turn everyone into a Roricon??

Re: Believe it or not the mods already visited the thread

Z Note: Baiting is about having fun with everyone when destroying the others baits. When you just have fun among yourselves and make everyone else feel uncomfortable, it no longer remains simple baiting. At this point the thread just turned into a troll feast. So hereby I request everyone to reconsider what you post and return to the original art.
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Jun 19, 2016 10:34 PM

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What's wrong with sexualizing lolis? And PLEASE tell me where loli's are sexualized. If you are talking about the ecchi stuff all kawaii loli's go through, which can be argued whether it's even ecchi or not, then every girl in any anime that's sexualized must be a nympho.

Loli's are cute. Cute is right. If cute is sexualized, that's alright too.
Jun 19, 2016 10:47 PM

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Personally I'm bothered by lolis. I don't see the appeal. Prisma Illya is such a shame because they animate really hot make out scenes that put even the best hentai to shame, but they just had to use 10 year old girls instead of the normal 16 and up. That being said, I'd imagine those who love loli characters don't associate them with real life people, and as such can be sexualized in a moral context. Does it mean you're a pedophile if you like sexualized loli characters? Not necessarily. Would a pedophile enjoy loli characters? Probably.

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Jun 19, 2016 10:49 PM

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Lolicon = Paedophile.

If you masturbate to Lolis you're a pedo. It doesn't matter how realistic it is it's still pedo.
Jun 19, 2016 10:58 PM

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Lolicon = Paedophile.

If you masturbate to Lolis you're a pedo. It doesn't matter how realistic it is it's still pedo.


strong argument....

Hint: Sarcasm


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Z-Dante said:

Z Note: Baiting is about having fun with everyone when destroying the others baits. When you just have fun among yourselves and make everyone else feel uncomfortable, it no longer remains simple baiting. At this point the thread just turned into a troll feast. So hereby I request everyone to reconsider what you post and return to the original art.

lol
Wait, how come no mods informed anyone else though?
Did I miss this somewhere in the thread?
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DEVlL said:
Lolicon = Paedophile.

If you masturbate to Lolis you're a pedo. It doesn't matter how realistic it is it's still pedo.

Somebody give this guy a medal!

Where have you been all this time when we were having the loli ≠ pedo arguments?
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@kofrine

I've been away for 2 to 3 years and those topic still exist?


Lets draw another analogy

Does violent video game promote violence? do you feel happy about scoring headshot or brutally killing in-game characters? do you like to drown your sims? You want to kill in real life? If your answer is no, then are you sure you're not lying to yourself?

I'm asking a serious question, and we should not avoid this question.

"If it's okay to fantasize killing a video game character... How about your neigbour?"

The question above is a horrible question, because you establish the spectrum being "This group = do this".


So yeah.


Bad people are bad people, good people are good people. Some bad people turn into good people, vice versa. It's that simple.
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As I grew older I realized I don't give too much of a shit anymore. Let people be attracted to whatever they want.

More busty curvy womanly cuties for me.
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Kofrine said:
End said:


If people were easily affected by something so sinister like that, getting the grasp wasn't even try to help. Even if you're discussing it farther, nothing ever contributed to the society. Get an understand and such? come on freaks will never care.
your answer is just like dodgint the real question. good moral fiction can affect people then why does the bad one cant?


For goodness sake, you don't even try to understand what I'm trying to say.
Let's remade my point, What are you trying to accomplish by starting this thread?
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That does raise an interesting question though: if it wasn't for the fact the production alone was harmful, do you think child porn would be legal? I mean it's not impossible (though with the amount SJWs nowadays I somehow doubt it lol)
I think that's a weird question.

Legallizing child pornography pretty much implies allowing unrestricted consent to all individuals regardless of their age, as pornographic content featuring actors that are under the age of consent cannot by definition be legal. Which would mean we'd live in a world where as an adult or young adult, children or preteens would be fair game as long as you get them to say yes (something child molesters can and do often succeed in doing by bribing the victim with gifts, affection and attention among other things, "He/she said she loves me!" or "He/she didn't say no!" being a fairly common defense invoked by convicted molesters to justify them acting on their pulsions).
So the production of CP not being harmful would mean that engaging in sexual activities with children is not harmful either, and given the proven long-lasting effects of child abuse and molestation on the victims, I'm not really sure where we're headed if we start adopting this kind of reasoning.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Honestly, I've always liked cute things. Then when I came to the anime community, I was disgusted by everyone who said something was cute. Because "cute" here usually means "sexy" in the most literal meaning. It's depressing almost. I think my opinion is implied somewhere in here.
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I did not bother reading 8 pages of this discussion.

0) @Kofrine , you should not have woken up this discussion. It's one of the hot-button issues proper people should not wake up.

1) I think that the stigma related to pedophilia should disappear. Just like with homosexuality, BDSM and any other sexuality-related preference.
There is nothing wrong with liking lolis, little children or old grandmothers.
It's most likely a bad thing to actually have sex with little children, but nobody is hurt by you thinking that they are sexy.

2) I'm of the "entertainment helps you not do these things in real life" school of thought. So loli all the way! For the children!
Anybody who tries to regulate away lolis is thus endangering my hypothetical children, and other, less hypothetical, children.

3) Yes, from my own and a lot of other people's experience, it is perfectly possible to be attracted to anime lolis only.

4) The whole "sexualization" accusation is annoying. The real world is a pretty sexy place, and fictional world is even sexier. That's the way it should be.

5) The whole "sexualization of lolis" accusation is annoying. Do we care about a little girl's panties because they're sexy? No, it's because they're forbidden.
Well, there is some hentai with lolis, but the people who ask these stupid questions aren't the people who know about it.

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Honestly, I've always liked cute things. Then when I came to the anime community, I was disgusted by everyone who said something was cute. Because "cute" here usually means "sexy" in the most literal meaning. It's depressing almost. I think my opinion is implied somewhere in here.

Things are complicated in Japan, where the preferred type of good looks for a woman is "kawaii" or "cute" in english. This spills off into anime-fan discussions.
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flannan said:
Senpaoi said:
Honestly, I've always liked cute things. Then when I came to the anime community, I was disgusted by everyone who said something was cute. Because "cute" here usually means "sexy" in the most literal meaning. It's depressing almost. I think my opinion is implied somewhere in here.

Things are complicated in Japan, where the preferred type of good looks for a woman is "kawaii" or "cute" in english. This spills off into anime-fan discussions.

I was talking about the "cute girls" as in the ones in Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka. And in reference to the fucked up so-called "otaku culture" that virtually exists in Western culture.
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Zilf said:
fun? this is not your social media, get your fun somewhere else.



AirStyles said:

Bad people are bad people, good people are good people. Some bad people turn into good people, vice versa. It's that simple.



AirStyles said:

So the production of CP not being harmful would mean that engaging in sexual activities with children is not harmful either, and given the proven long-lasting effects of child abuse and molestation on the victims, I'm not really where we're headed if we start adopting this kind of reasoning.

I was molested by my cousin when I was younger, and I didn't find the event traumatising in any way, just annoying. I wouldn't for a second suggest that there aren't long term effects of abuse/molestation, but I feel like context plays a pretty significant role in the effect it has on later life.
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Senpaoi said:
flannan said:

Things are complicated in Japan, where the preferred type of good looks for a woman is "kawaii" or "cute" in english. This spills off into anime-fan discussions.

I was talking about the "cute girls" as in the ones in Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka. And in reference to the fucked up so-called "otaku culture" that virtually exists in Western culture.

GochiUsa's girls are cute and moe, but not sexy (for people who aren't lolicons or pedophiles).
On the other hand, Asahina Mikuru from Melanholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is cute, moe AND sexy. But people are likely to call her "cute" or "moe", because that's a more notable characteristic of her.
I'm not sure why I am explaining it, and what I'm trying to prove here.
I like cute things too, but I don't explode in rage when they have cute romance or cute sex.
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flannan said:
Senpaoi said:

I was talking about the "cute girls" as in the ones in Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka. And in reference to the fucked up so-called "otaku culture" that virtually exists in Western culture.

GochiUsa's girls are cute and moe, but not sexy (for people who aren't lolicons or pedophiles).
On the other hand, Asahina Mikuru from Melanholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is cute, moe AND sexy. But people are likely to call her "cute" or "moe", because that's a more notable characteristic of her.
I'm not sure why I am explaining it, and what I'm trying to prove here.
I like cute things too, but I don't explode in rage when they have cute romance or cute sex.
Crap I feel like I'm heavily stereotyping at this point. There are many people who want to have sex with the GochiUsa girls. Because they are cute. Not saying everyone tho pls no h8
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Senpaoi said:
flannan said:

GochiUsa's girls are cute and moe, but not sexy (for people who aren't lolicons or pedophiles).
On the other hand, Asahina Mikuru from Melanholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is cute, moe AND sexy. But people are likely to call her "cute" or "moe", because that's a more notable characteristic of her.
I'm not sure why I am explaining it, and what I'm trying to prove here.
I like cute things too, but I don't explode in rage when they have cute romance or cute sex.
Crap I feel like I'm heavily stereotyping at this point. There are many people who want to have sex with the GochiUsa girls. Because they are cute. Not saying everyone tho pls no h8

Oh, now I understand your point.
I was surprised when I heard that Cardcaptor Sakura's titular heroine was really popular among lolicons (she's a cute girl who had some cute romance in the story). But now I'm used to it.
I've heard that it's because people watch some anime as children, and when they hit puberty, they start to think of some characters of these anime as sexy.
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It's always either a thread asking if Lolis = Pedophilia or something bitching about harem anime, both with an OP who puts in effort to make it an actual discussion either way even though it's just the same old song and dance at this point.

I wonder how people here don't get tired of just discussing the same thing over and over again, honestly ._.

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flannan said:
Senpaoi said:
Crap I feel like I'm heavily stereotyping at this point. There are many people who want to have sex with the GochiUsa girls. Because they are cute. Not saying everyone tho pls no h8

Oh, now I understand your point.
I was surprised when I heard that Cardcaptor Sakura's titular heroine was really popular among lolicons (she's a cute girl who had some cute romance in the story). But now I'm used to it.
I've heard that it's because people watch some anime as children, and when they hit puberty, they start to think of some characters of these anime as sexy.
GochiUsa also has more 18+ fanart and doujins than any other moe show in existence pretty much so regardless of what the anime itself showcased I think it's pretty natural to start looking at them with lustful eyes once you've seen what the internet has to offer for them lol
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This thread the best shit ever lmao.
Jun 20, 2016 3:49 AM

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Heh well I can definitely see you missed my point
https://youtu.be/0e1eS0SJd80 Jounouchi
https://youtu.be/oj6pV6Zlkv0 Ryotsu

Hope this helps you understand what I'm getting at :P
Sorry but i dont, please explain it in simple way, and in English
Thanks.


Heh not much to explain man, I'm totally moe for the both of them !! I even have a figure of them each (:
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flannan said:

Oh, now I understand your point.
I was surprised when I heard that Cardcaptor Sakura's titular heroine was really popular among lolicons (she's a cute girl who had some cute romance in the story). But now I'm used to it.
I've heard that it's because people watch some anime as children, and when they hit puberty, they start to think of some characters of these anime as sexy.
GochiUsa also has more 18+ fanart and doujins than any other moe show in existence pretty much so regardless of what the anime itself showcased I think it's pretty natural to start looking at them with lustful eyes once you've seen what the internet has to offer for them lol

A Danbooru search gave me 7 pages of GochiUsa explicit pics, and 70 pages of K-ON explicit pics. Unless K-ON doesn't count as moe anime.
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flannan said:
HaXXspetten said:
GochiUsa also has more 18+ fanart and doujins than any other moe show in existence pretty much so regardless of what the anime itself showcased I think it's pretty natural to start looking at them with lustful eyes once you've seen what the internet has to offer for them lol

A Danbooru search gave me 7 pages of GochiUsa explicit pics, and 70 pages of K-ON explicit pics. Unless K-ON doesn't count as moe anime.
Yeah okay K-On obviously has most since it started the whole moe boom but most of those are generally older ones. In the last year or two it's mostly GochiUsa you see if you frequent recent updates on doujin sites and ecchi boards (also even if it's moe, K-On isn't loli other than maybe Azusa)

It's a lot in any case
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Personally I don't understand why are lolis always compared to real kids. I mean, I like lolis to the point of being called lolicon by my brother, but at the same time I hate real children with passion and consider them ugly (no, nothing cute about them for me) and annoying.

Also, isn't this whole discussion same as the one about games/movies/anything fictional turning people into murderers etc?
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I recently read that it's actually bad because it normalizes real pedophilia and I have to agree with that. Like when in a lot of hentai and doujins they portray rape as something woman actually like (spoiler: they don't) and guys start to tolerate rape more and even want to rape like it's not actually a fucking disgusting thing to do.
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HaXXspetten said:
flannan said:

A Danbooru search gave me 7 pages of GochiUsa explicit pics, and 70 pages of K-ON explicit pics. Unless K-ON doesn't count as moe anime.
Yeah okay K-On obviously has most since it started the whole moe boom but most of those are generally older ones. In the last year or two it's mostly GochiUsa you see if you frequent recent updates on doujin sites and ecchi boards (also even if it's moe, K-On isn't loli other than maybe Azusa)

Well, I'll have to believe you, as I have no way of easily checking it.

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It's a lot in any case

Yeah. As expected of anime fandom, one can say.
Jun 20, 2016 5:45 AM

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Okay so what's wrong in sexualizing lolis? It's 2D afterall and there's no law forbids ones to jerking off to the great 2D lolis.
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You said:
Okay so what's wrong in sexualizing lolis? It's 2D afterall and there's no law forbids ones to jerking off to the great 2D lolis.
Depends where you are but it is still a quite vague and a grey area of the law. "Currently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (as well as create and distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Australia, Canada, the Philippines, South Africa, South Korea and the United Kingdom."
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Depends where you are but it is still a quite vague concept. "Currently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (as well as create and distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Australia, Canada, the Philippines, South Africa, South Korea and the United Kingdom."
Your sources?

As much as I am aware, they're are no such rules against possessing arts of sexualised cartoon characters
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zal said:
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Okay so what's wrong in sexualizing lolis? It's 2D afterall and there's no law forbids ones to jerking off to the great 2D lolis.
Depends where you are but it is still a quite vague concept. "Currently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (as well as create and distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Australia, Canada, the Philippines, South Africa, South Korea and the United Kingdom."

Really? Is there any appropriate reason to do that? Such an awful country to do so lol

Besides, ages of an anime character =/= height, I mean she is 3000 years old:


While this shit is 14 (excluding 3.0)


Also, basically this countries say that almost all doujinshis are illegal then, since most of them are just 1st if not 2nd grade highschoolers? All in all that I can say is that making that kind of law is just the sign of incompetence of the government.
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Depends where you are but it is still a quite vague concept. "Currently, countries that have made it illegal to possess (as well as create and distribute) sexual images of fictional characters who are described as or appear to be under eighteen years old include Australia, Canada, the Philippines, South Africa, South Korea and the United Kingdom."
Your sources?

As much as I am aware, they're are no such rules against possessing arts of sexualised cartoon characters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

If you read the new zealand part a man was even arrested for downloading hentai with under-age elfs
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At least some of those countries don't consider the actual age but the physical depiction of under-age characters.
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zal said:
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Your sources?

As much as I am aware, they're are no such rules against possessing arts of sexualised cartoon characters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

If you read the new zealand part a man was even arrested for downloading hentai with under-age elfs
@You
At least some of those countries don't consider the actual age but the physical depiction of under-age characters.

I see, but hey that criteria of "small breast" is totally stupid. My mother is A-cup and I can found pretty much of my girl classmates who also has an A-cup size breast.
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Pedophilia is not good, whether the girls are fictional or not.
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You said:
zal said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

If you read the new zealand part a man was even arrested for downloading hentai with under-age elfs
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At least some of those countries don't consider the actual age but the physical depiction of under-age characters.

I see, but hey that criteria of "small breast" is totally stupid. My mother is A-cup and I can found pretty much of my girl classmates who also has an A-cup size breast.
I am sorry for your father...
However that is one of the criteria of an overall concept "if a consenting adult in pornography were "reasonably" deemed to look under the age of consent, then they could be considered depictions of child pornography."
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zal said:
You said:

I see, but hey that criteria of "small breast" is totally stupid. My mother is A-cup and I can found pretty much of my girl classmates who also has an A-cup size breast.
I am sorry for your father...
However that is one of the criteria of an overall concept "if a consenting adult in pornography were "reasonably" deemed to look under the age of consent, then they could be considered depictions of child pornography."

I never asked my father about it lol, who know if he actually got a fetish of that?

by the term 'reasonably' means that a lolified legal characters can also fall under that category? Well I get it.
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In December 2008, a man from Sydney was convicted of possessing child pornography after sexually explicit pictures of children characters from
The Simpsons were found on his computer. The NSW Supreme Court upheld a Local Court decision that the animated Simpsons characters "depicted", and thus "could be considered", real people.
I heard about this before, but still, This is totally retarded! >_<

Controversy arose over the perceived ban on small-breasted women in pornography
Now this is total discrimination >_>
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In December 2008, a man from Sydney was convicted of possessing child pornography after sexually explicit pictures of children characters from
The Simpsons were found on his computer. The NSW Supreme Court upheld a Local Court decision that the animated Simpsons characters "depicted", and thus "could be considered", real people.
I heard about this before, but still, This is totally retarded! >_<

Controversy arose over the perceived ban on small-breasted women in pornography
Now this is total discrimination >_>
The South Australian court obviously prefers oppai.
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I recently read that it's actually bad because it normalizes real pedophilia and I have to agree with that. Like when in a lot of hentai and doujins they portray rape as something woman actually like (spoiler: they don't) and guys start to tolerate rape more and even want to rape like it's not actually a fucking disgusting thing to do.

So video games are bad because they normalize real murder?
And what evidence do you have that guys tolerate rape more because of hentai? Rape fantasies are more common among women than men. Does that mean that women think actual rape is cool?

Same with lolis, do you have any evidence that loli leads to normalization of pedophilia? Child sex abuse rates are much higher in the USA than in Japan.

None of the anti-loli people have brought a single factual evidence proving that sexualized loli might harm anyone. Everyone just uses their own subjective moral values to censor what other have the right to like. It's not different from religious leaders who think pornography should be banned because it will lead humainity to decadence, according to their made-up beliefs.
YarrowiaJun 20, 2016 7:11 AM
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