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hassan0297 said: Pat_To_Do-List said: I know that, but was it really necessary to show the "gory video" just to stop the people from playing it? Like, really? "If they had blacked out the screen,people in their frustration would still have continued to play it tapping on their black screen that somehow the game comes back to them?" What? So if they just showed black screen, and those people keep tapping the screen, then the game would come back? How did you even know that? No,I'm not saying that the game would come back.I'm saying that if the screen were to be blacked out,people would keep on tapping and shaking the device HOPING that the game comes back.It's just as we sometimes play games on the computer and sometimes it may happen that the screen goes completely black.It maybe due to an error in the game or something like that.If we were playing a game that's so much fun and suddenly a black screen comes outta nowhere.You'll probably be irritated.You'd first try to mash the buttons of the keyboard and then click the mouse maybe a hundred times or so and move it as well.When your efforts fail,of course there's nothing you could do about it.Then you'd have two options: 1) You were having so much fun that you would wanna quit the game and then restart it hoping that it may fix the error and you can keep on playing. 2) You're so irritated of losing the fun time you were having that you would just stop and shut down your device. That's why blacking out the screen would have proved risky. Or maybe, just show a screen where it shows that the game is blocked by MWPSB. That would make much more sense. I think they did the "spread the gory video to stop this mess" thing just because the writer thought it would be better for the plot. Or maybe(just maybe), just like Elfster said, that dubious decision was influenced by the weird politician. Who knows. How would they block it?It's a software that was being publicly used.They tried deleting it instead of blocking it but it kept being uploaded on different sites.Also the software was already downloaded and installed on different devices.If they were to block the installed software they would have to search for each and every device on which the software had been downloaded and block them separately.That would have been nearly impossible and time consuming.Of course the only choice was left to show what was going on behind the scenes. So it makes perfect sense.I don't think it was for plot convenience but for maintaining it.Why blame everything on the writer? :D I'm not very tech savvy so pardon my ignorance but, wouldn't blocking the software essentially be the same as trying to upload live footage to each individual device? They easily could have just made them unusable instead of directly impacting the populaces psycho pass. |
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hassan0297 said: . . . and then restart it hoping that it may fix the error and you can keep on playing. Would it though? You do not know that. hassan0297 said: How would they block it?It's a software that was being publicly used.They tried deleting it instead of blocking it but it kept being uploaded on different sites.Also the software was already downloaded and installed on different devices.If they were to block the installed software they would have to search for each and every device on which the software had been downloaded and block them separately.That would have been nearly impossible and time consuming.Of course the only choice was left to show what was going on behind the scenes. So it makes perfect sense.I don't think it was for plot convenience but for maintaining it.Why blame everything on the writer? :D Well, they managed to "block" the game with that video, so why could they not just "block" the game with an image says, "This game is blocked by the MWPSB?" That video was lacking in context. The video just showed people getting killed. How would one knows that video was the real deal/caused by the game? 7thVoid said: I'm not very tech savvy so pardon my ignorance but, wouldn't blocking the software essentially be the same as trying to upload live footage to each individual device? They easily could have just made them unusable instead of directly impacting the populaces psycho pass. Exactly. |
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7thVoid said: hassan0297 said: How would they block it?It's a software that was being publicly used.They tried deleting it instead of blocking it but it kept being uploaded on different sites.Also the software was already downloaded and installed on different devices.If they were to block the installed software they would have to search for each and every device on which the software had been downloaded and block them separately.That would have been nearly impossible and time consuming.Of course the only choice was left to show what was going on behind the scenes. So it makes perfect sense.I don't think it was for plot convenience but for maintaining it.Why blame everything on the writer? :D I'm not very tech savvy so pardon my ignorance but, wouldn't blocking the software essentially be the same as trying to upload live footage to each individual device? They easily could have just made them unusable instead of directly impacting the populaces psycho pass. Didn't see that comin' :D.Yea that makes sense.Saiga suggested to terminate the holo in the protection program and let people see everything.It was not like everyone agreed to it.Kunizuka and Mika questioned it only to get the reply from Saiga that "It is the fastest route." So now I think it can be assumed that it might have taken time to put an MWPSB block on it.I think only Division 1 is what's left of the MWPSB and a few enforcers from Division 3.So I guess they gambled on risking an increase in People's psycho-pass to save their inspectors and enforcers' asses.They had Mika with them who eventually was to go and control the situation with those people.Most probably they would be sent in to receive therapy. |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: hassan0297 said: . . . and then restart it hoping that it may fix the error and you can keep on playing. Would it though? You do not know that. Yes I do not know that :D hassan0297 said: How would they block it?It's a software that was being publicly used.They tried deleting it instead of blocking it but it kept being uploaded on different sites.Also the software was already downloaded and installed on different devices.If they were to block the installed software they would have to search for each and every device on which the software had been downloaded and block them separately.That would have been nearly impossible and time consuming.Of course the only choice was left to show what was going on behind the scenes. So it makes perfect sense.I don't think it was for plot convenience but for maintaining it.Why blame everything on the writer? :D Well, they managed to "block" the game with that video, so why could they not just "block" the game with an image says, "This game is blocked by the MWPSB?" That video was lacking in context. The video just showed people getting killed. How would one knows that video was the real deal/caused by the game? Yes you have a point.It makes sense.But I think it was what Saiga said,"It is the fastest route."Assuming that it's right,we can probably agree that the MWPSB block might have taken some time to be done.And that's the thing they didn't have time as their inspectors and enforcers were having their asses in danger.So they risked increasing people's psycho-pass to save their inspectors and enforcers.Since Mika was on-duty and available,she was to eventually go and control the situation with those people.Probably might end up sending them to therapy.Although I do agree that the video was a bit off.But hey people can't be that stupid,can they? :D 7thVoid said: I'm not very tech savvy so pardon my ignorance but, wouldn't blocking the software essentially be the same as trying to upload live footage to each individual device? They easily could have just made them unusable instead of directly impacting the populaces psycho pass. Exactly. |
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Aurioch said: Actually, it is the fastest route. Disclaimer: this is pure speculation based on my knowledge and using our technology as basis. From what I gathered, each individual device is connected to one drone, receiving live image from what the drone can see with each sensor ("looking through the drone's eyes"). That video stream is then passed through holo-filters to mask the real image, most probably on the server itself which manages connections, so that it becomes "innocent game", and such data is then sent to the connected device. If they wanted to send -anything- to the devices itself apart from the already defined input (drone sensor data), they'd have to hack into each connection and feed it with different source. And that's just the video part; next part would be blocking of the input so that players can't control the drones. It's way easier to just shut down the holo-filters and let server stream unfiltered video to the devices. There was probably another option: reboot of the whole MWPSB system, because iirc their server was hosting the game and managing those connections. But while it wouldn't cause group hue pollution, security of the whole city would be completely down until everything's back up - and who knows what might've happened during those few minutes. To the point and solid stuff! |
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hassan0297 said: Aurioch said: Actually, it is the fastest route. Disclaimer: this is pure speculation based on my knowledge and using our technology as basis. From what I gathered, each individual device is connected to one drone, receiving live image from what the drone can see with each sensor ("looking through the drone's eyes"). That video stream is then passed through holo-filters to mask the real image, most probably on the server itself which manages connections, so that it becomes "innocent game", and such data is then sent to the connected device. If they wanted to send -anything- to the devices itself apart from the already defined input (drone sensor data), they'd have to hack into each connection and feed it with different source. And that's just the video part; next part would be blocking of the input so that players can't control the drones. It's way easier to just shut down the holo-filters and let server stream unfiltered video to the devices. There was probably another option: reboot of the whole MWPSB system, because iirc their server was hosting the game and managing those connections. But while it wouldn't cause group hue pollution, security of the whole city would be completely down until everything's back up - and who knows what might've happened during those few minutes. To the point and solid stuff! Works for me. |
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Aurioch said: It's way easier to just shut down the holo-filters and let server stream unfiltered video to the devices. But wasn't the video showing what already happened & not what's happening? |
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Pat_To_Do-List said: Aurioch said: It's way easier to just shut down the holo-filters and let server stream unfiltered video to the devices. But wasn't the video showing what already happened & not what's happening? Honestly, I don't know. There was one moment where holo-filtered video was replaced with unfiltered video during the moment that one Inspector from Division 3 was dying etc. My 4 possible reasons (rate them however you want): 1) Game has some kind of "frag replay" system where on player death it replays some of the kills. Also few of the drones remained and were watching those dead bodies. 2) Each video sequence is somewhere stored and MWPSB found a way to retrieve it and stream it unfiltered. 3) MWSPB broke the time continuum and by shutting down the filter all players have been time shifted few minutes back. 4) Production I.G. put those scenes to save money. 5) We're reading too much into it. 6) My whole theory is actually null. IMO #1 is most likely considering it was already sunset when holo filters were shut down. #2 would be... stupid, because if they actually -did- that they would make video and input block much faster. |
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Aurioch said: Honestly, I don't know. There was one moment where holo-filtered video was replaced with unfiltered video during the moment that one Inspector from Division 3 was dying etc. My 4 possible reasons (rate them however you want): 1) Game has some kind of "frag replay" system where on player death it replays some of the kills. Also few of the drones remained and were watching those dead bodies. 2) Each video sequence is somewhere stored and MWPSB found a way to retrieve it and stream it unfiltered. 3) MWSPB broke the time continuum and by shutting down the filter all players have been time shifted few minutes back. 4) Production I.G. put those scenes to save money. 5) We're reading too much into it. 6) My whole theory is actually null. IMO #1 is most likely considering it was already sunset when holo filters were shut down. #2 would be... stupid, because if they actually -did- that they would make video and input block much faster. As long as they explain this "weird" thing on the next episode, I would be fine. For now, I still think it was truly weird & illogical decision. aksa123 said: 7) It was done on purpose by Kamui's gang. IMHO 1) is pretty unlikely, because it's not essentially a "game" but a filter program. I really hope that's the case. |
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| It all depends on how the game was made. If the filter was incorporated in the game, it will be difficult to remove. If it was added as a separate entity(which is the most common way), it will be easier. Since Kamui got that done, I'm guessing it was the latter case. If they tried editing the game itself that would have taken loads of time. But to disable the holo filter, all they had to do was recognize the filter code and detach it from the game. Aurioch said: If they wanted to send -anything- to the devices itself apart from the already defined input (drone sensor data), they'd have to hack into each connection and feed it with different source. And that's just the video part; next part would be blocking of the input so that players can't control the drones. It's way easier to just shut down the holo-filters and let server stream unfiltered video to the devices. There was probably another option: reboot of the whole MWPSB system, because iirc their server was hosting the game and managing those connections. But while it wouldn't cause group hue pollution, security of the whole city would be completely down until everything's back up - and who knows what might've happened during those few minutes. Whatever they decided to do, there would be no need to change the data on the users' devices in any way. Because if there occurred any issue of incompatibility, the game would simply stop working(on the respective device) and that would be a perfectly happy situation in their case. One other thing that crossed my mind was that they could have refused all connections. But that situation would be similar to the safety problem(which I had completely overlooked) if rebooting the system. So that too is ruled out. And as for the 'rewind feature', I'd agree with aksa123 said: 7) It was done on purpose by Kamui's gang. That is, they programmed the game to rewind to some seconds as soon as the filter was removed. |
zerriet said: Kaioshin_Sama said: There was basically no hope for this season for a good chunk of people the second you know who was announced not to be the writer. That's what annoys me about his presence and sudden abandonment of shows cause there's honestly way to many people that only follow shows just to praise him and don't care about anything else. It's kind of a joke really. Honestly though I'm kind of surprised that the majority of people even seem to be giving this season a real chance at all. I expected this shows discussion threads to have long just devolved into bashing the show for it's failure to live up to the apparently infallible writer of the first season. I don't really think it is the case of abandonment, rather Urobuchi wants to allow other writers to help him expand the universe while he is still supervising the underlying nature. Regardless of that though, there will be people who get salty over it so its just a matter of whether they become more open minded. Not going to deny the flaws of this season but I personally feel people make it seem too criminal I just kind of hate what he's done to the anime landscape in this regard even though it's more of an indirect unintentional side effect than anything. It just feels like kind of a joke with producers always scrambling to get him on their half-baked projects to help them sell better than they would otherwise, no writer or show that attempts anything similar to or that tries to follow up on a project he worked on ever being able to live up to what people think the show would have been like if Urobuchi wrote it, lots of just really bad ill-conceived "dark deconstruction" anime that lack anything resembling a coherent plot or compelling characters. I honestly just kind of wish he'd go away at this point and do more live action stuff like he hinted at wanting to do so that anime culture can have a little bit of breathing room again and things can sort of get back to normal rather than practically an entire industry and a good chunk of it's fanbase seemingly revolving around this one person and his involvement or non-involvement in projects. |
| Akane already know that you can't trust the sibyl system, so the fact that she still cling to the dominator is stupid. Kamui was right in front of her. She could have just shot him with a normal gun. She already knew that the dominator wouldn't work on him. |
Chibi-Alice said: Akane already know that you can't trust the sibyl system, so the fact that she still cling to the dominator is stupid. Kamui was right in front of her. She could have just shot him with a normal gun. She already knew that the dominator wouldn't work on him. Plot twist. She didn't let him escape out of the kindness of her heart. She did so because she want's to see how far he can go before being stopped so that she can gain information on sibyl so that she may one day bring it down herself! |
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| Oh the video game hidden as real killing has been a really interesting concept. Loving the MWPSB group. Hahaha. Mika is still such a newbie. >.< |
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| Good episode lot's of action. Those game players deserve to know that they killed lots of people. This season has a very high death toll. |
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AironicallyHuman said: Just gonna say what everyone else is saying: this 'STEAL DOMINATORS AND USE INSPECTORS ID/EYE' plot doesn't make a lick of sense. The brains scan in real-time and are in full control, rather than and A.I., and can make the guns fire or not fire at will. It would also be very easy to revoke an inspector's privileges, even ignoring that. So, unless there's an utterly retarded 'LET KAMUI DO WHAT HE WANTS' conspiracy, the change of writer has well and truly ballsed it up more than just with the complete lack of subtlety and OTT violence. With writing like in ep4 where ONE MAN + small robo-dog couldn't be overpowered, it wouldn't surprise me. It's rather fitting that 'WC' keeps getting shown because the show has literally gone down the toilet. The Togane-Kougami link is going to be entirely superficial and God knows why neither Akane nor Togane shot THE BOAT. Or why Akane insists on being purepure when 10+ people are getting brutally in every ep because of Kamui. None of the new characters are remotely likable, with only Mika having personality... a bad one, at that. Small things like how the four-eyed psychologist NEEDS to keep pushing the bridge of his glasses up BECAUSE HE HAS GLASSES/QUIRK are very irritating. Agreed x 100. Everything in this season just comes off as stupid. You know, as far as the Sibyl System is concerned, some suspension of disbelief was required in S1. But in this season it's just silly. There's no subtlety whatsoever, while in season one, at least, you could understand how a system would come to be, and why it was continuing to be enforced. I knew going into this season that it wouldn't be as good, given Makishima's absence(and Kougami's, seemingly), and then I got worried when I heard Urobuchi wasn't writing this along with the animation studio change, but I still had hope. But nope, this is pretty bad. Not to mention the characters. They're either bland, or incredibly annoying(Mika). Sure, Urobuchi may be overrated as a writer, but at least the guy kept things interesting in S1. At least there was some type of complexity there - with the Sibyl system, especially. So far, S2 has been a mess. |
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| USS What Color Intense as always. Red leather sure does look good... but why hasn't Sibyl revoked that inspector's access? We're talking about a centralized system, just have to flip some bits in the DB... |
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| Damn it they could have ended it right there. And Mika really needs to die. |
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| Why Akane didn't shoot?! WTF! |
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| Ok, this season is not playing the slightest bit. I still think Kamui's shit though, compared to Makishima. I see Mika dieing a painful death, but she's really deserving it. Szadek23 said: The only reason I'm not executing you for military tactics ignorance is of respect to Kyouko.The this whole "robots can't shoot at each other" thing is also bs. We have already seen a robot shooting another one of his kind in the last episode. Even without it still doesn't make sense,because it means these robots have to stay far away from each other at all time to be of any use in combat. At this point it really looks like they are making up the rules on the fly. |
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chakracat said: I really don't expect them to finish this with 12 episodes. Could there be a S2 Part 2 in the near future? I think they can. This season hasn't been all bad. Granted not like Season 1 since different script writers but not too bad. rihan1 said: I'm liking Kamui more and more Yep, Kamui! I am kind of glad he didn't die right then and there. Excell said: Aaaaand Kamui owns an impenetrable plot-shield for now. Sensed that too. |
| Destroy Decomposer! So Kamui is collecting Dominators. This was already confirmed before. The question is what for? Enforcers are getting killed all around. Division 3 was wiped out. And they must show the people the truth! Good job to Saiga for telling Shimotsuki that she sucks! Good job also to Ginoza for punching a Drone. So Akane let Kamui escape. Tougane is evil, but he's not working for Kamui because Tougane was about to shoot Kamui. |
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| 5/5 Given the discontent for its brevity, are focusing on a dynamic series at most with such action very tight; but unfortunately this is reflected in a narrative that does not give space to all the explanations. Oh well! Narration not bad, Akane is a bit too athletic, but what is lacking is to show the degree of difficulty that is encountered in wanting to do what it does our protagonist. I've thought and thought and finally when they show the face of kamui also from the right side, I realized that those scars are due to an operation, maybe he has implanted a different face from her, if it's true my guess on the opening, a bit as occurs in ending Gundam G, some mysteries may already be revealed. However bad the plan Kamui, I had already guessed previously, although I fail to see why. Implant in the eye is not a bad idea, I had not thought, I thought he wanted to study a different system to use the Dominator. Drawings and animations not lofty but not so bad. CG very good. P.S. Perhaps Kamui is controlled by the old woman who commands the whole shebang. |
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| maybe just shoot the boat or the engine or the motor or anything to stop them getting away??? and based on what she did in this episode, Akane must be secretly training her body :) |
| Sure, let's not darken the Psycho Pass of 1 person to stop the main villian from continuing to kill as many people as he pleases. |
| The writer of this season is really screwing things up. |
| So why haven't they removed Shisuii from the list of inspectors yet? I mean shes obviously been gone a while but why let her still use a dominator. wtf. |
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| ANOTHER CASE OF AKANE IDEALISM FUCKING EVERYTHING UP smh this is just like when she let Shougo kill her friend. |
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| I have no idea why she stopped him from killing Kamui... I hope I'll know it next time xD Anyhow, it was a rather interesting episode. Even Mika was nice x) |
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FestinaLente said: I have no idea why she stopped him from killing Kamui... I hope I'll know it next time xD Anyhow, it was a rather interesting episode. Even Mika was nice x) Because she believes that nobody should ever be killed, no matter what their crimes are or what their dangers of doing crimes are. She'd rather let an extraordinarily threatening criminal escape than let him be shot down. People want to defend her actions in season 1 by her inexperience, but she has years of experience on her now and repeated the same action. She's just like Shirou, thinking she can somehow save everybody. |
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Zadion said: Thank you, dear sir. I feel so enlightened now!FestinaLente said: I have no idea why she stopped him from killing Kamui... I hope I'll know it next time xD Anyhow, it was a rather interesting episode. Even Mika was nice x) Because she believes that nobody should ever be killed, no matter what their crimes are or what their dangers of doing crimes are. She'd rather let an extraordinarily threatening criminal escape than let him be shot down. People want to defend her actions in season 1 by her inexperience, but she has years of experience on her now and repeated the same action. She's just like Shirou, thinking she can somehow save everybody. |
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| Oh wow that ending! Great episode, things sure are getting better by the episode! |
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| Kamui is able to access the Dominators.. He easily accessed Shisui's dominator.. seems that he had transplanted one of her eyes into his.. maybe this makes him able to access the dominators? Wonder why Akane reminisced about Kougami in Tougane.. :v.. Tougane's aim is to cloud Akane's PP and I wonder how he is going to achieve all this. Still, just like Makishima, Kamui is running the show all by himself. The villains are the focal point in both the seasons rather than the heroes.. |
| The writing is getting worse and worse. |
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| 4th 5th 6th episode is utter shit, with nothing but blood shed and stupid story line |
| RIP Division 3 inspector and enforcers. All of them died. Fortunately, Shion works to prevent the "Hungry Chicken" game from being spread. She, Saiga, Hinakawa and Kunizuka manage to use a program to hack into the game's cloud server and to show all the innocent players what they were really doing, despite of Mika's protest. She always question Akane, and she accidentally says she wish that Akane's hue color will be black someday. Argh, so annoying. So Akane's group plan of destroying the drones effectively works well. I praise Ginoza for punching a drone in the face so hard. Kamui and Shisui teams up. His goal is to collect dominators by killing enforcers. So he's able to use dominators because of Shisui's eye. Togane is really obsessed with Akane's crime coefficient. To think that Akane sees him as Kogami... I miss him so much. |
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| Wow, this season is a joke with all this bs with Shisui's system access and Kamui's superpowers. |
| And once again Akane was not able to shoot with real gun and unbelievably her cloud color is not changing in the worst scenario who is she really ? |
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| looking more like a guilty crown clone what a fucking joke... |
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| Akane seeing Shinya in Tougane. And all the people seeing what they've done ultimately, gonna be a hell of a job to "help" all those innocent people. |
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| What's up with Mika? She's always criticising Akane over how she handles cases. But when she needs to step up to take charge, she falters. Take that incident in the previous episode. When asked for a decision, she doesn't want to do anything because if something goes wrong, it's her fault. Then gets upset when the boss transfers the case to Division 3. I wonder if Inspector Shisui's rights to using a Dominator will be removed now that it's clear she's helping Kamui instead. Off to the next episode |
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