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| 1- Armin's death was great but now it's ruined, also this sealed the fact that the main characters have plot armor. 2- Hange and the others appeared out of nowhere fully aware of the situation (how did they even know that was Armin?). 3- Eren and Mikasa gave up easily to Hange, considering they were fighting Levi for the syringe. 4- Bertholdt begging for his life was unnecessary and distracting from the fact that Armin's revival is supposed to be touching. 5- Reiner is still alive, meaning they're probably gonna fight him again which is getting tiring to be honest (it's possible the villains are gonna feed him to another titan though). This is a very disappointing episode, last episode was one of the greatest anime episodes of all time, but now it's just good at best. I'm glad Mikasa and Levi didn't lose the syringe accidentally, but Armin doesn't fit as a titan, anyway I'll wait and see what happens next. |
forexjammer said: Illyricus said: Bert "I can accept any outcome that happens" Bert being eaten by armin "REEEEEEEINNNNNNERRRRRR!"Pretty much, lmao. I get that the message was that Bertolt was no different from all those poor bastards who were crying when they were eaten by the Titans, but after such display of cold blood and acceptance in the previous episodes, it felt jarring as heck. If you actually see him when he was grabbed, he was smiling when he saw Eren and friends, He thought they were coming to save him. Bertholt lost this memories of the battle, that's why he was crying asking for help. Really subtle stuff you won't see if your eyes are glued to subtitle. Thanks for pointing this out! Totally missed it. |
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Mei-o_Scarlett said: ExodiaX said: Wow do people in attack on titan fandom actually thinks their show has no plot armor and asspull? If that was the case then they wouldn't have named Reiner plot armored titan. Of course it's fictional show just like jojo it has asspull too but people still enjoy it regardless. asspulls only make show intresting because they use that as an advantage to make story better unless it's Fairy Tail. Araki and Isayma are one of those manga creator who use asspull to make things better which fans will enjoy it and they succeed too. i mean, its also interesting in ft too but ok sure, tell that first statement to kera here or any of the peeps tryna logic armin surviving as a possibility and not just plot armor What if I told you it's both a possibility AND plot armor? |
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Mattinator95 said: What chapter was the manga on when season 2 was released I'm trying to figure out when I reached this part in the manga When season 2 started airing chapter 92 was just released. |
| What an amazing fucking episode, truly bittersweet to see Erwin go. Welcome back Armin, ur a fucking colossal Titan now. FINALLY we'll get to find the truth we've been wondering for 6 years! S3P2 Episode 6 has to be one of my most anticipated moments this decade! (Along JoJo's part 6 conclusion being adapted.) PS: We're watching a fucking cartoon, not something that needs to fit the laws of the real world, if Armin survived the fall we don't really need to break down the reasoning. The show already established that crazy things are possible ever since S1E5, so it doesn't make sense to complain about it now. |
ShoryuukenJun 3, 2019 1:51 AM
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Frostbytes said: Weebover9000 said: What part of this is able to be seen as a comedy? You must have really dark humor. >Subsequent Drama I mean, one of this animes tags is Drama, and considering the nature of this series, something like this episode isnt out of the realm of possibility for it. Comedy because of its absolutely supid logic of Armin breathing in that fatal position, as I pointed out. Just can't take the series seriously with moments like this. Why do people like you who dislike this show and know exactly what this type of genre entails even bother keeping up with it and taking the effort to comment on discussion threads for individual episodes lol. |
| Did anyone else love how there was practically no soundtrack at all in this episode except towards the end? I felt the silence in the background music helped enhance the tone of this episode regarding the choice they had to make so much more. |
| Well that was a bit bland compared to the last couple eps. In any case I was getting pretty annoyed with both Eren and Mikasa for seriously trying to argue that Armin is more important than Erwin, and then Levi actually listens to them in the end. I don't know if I'd call it plot armor or just sheer stupidity but this is another clear case of people just letting their emotions get the best of them instead of doing the obvious logical choice In the first place there's no fucking way Armin was alive up until that moment anyway. He should have been 100% dead in the last episode already. You can't survive something like that. There's just no way pobeB said: I guess you missed the part of him literally being burned alive? He'd be dead already without falling anywhereSupersonic_speed said: Armin being still alive was just complete bulshit. You can’t survive an injury like that. You mean a fall on a 20+ meters roof from 55meters with at least 40 meters of cables slowing you down? Assuming he fall directly on the roof, and he has not been taken by eren after hanging a minute or so. |
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| OK episode overall, even though it was slow. And yup, Armin surviving that was stupid as all hell. Plot Armor 100. |
vegeta8639 said: Somehow I love hearing Mikasa crying. Maybe because it shows that she is still human after all. As Hange said, they are even struggling to stay sane while trying to survive the cruel world.Seeing Mikasa cry like that actually got to me but I was still kinda hoping the syringe would get destroyed or something just to make things more interesting. The scene foreshadowed in that trailer did not live up my expectations unfortunately but it's probably because they hyped it up more than they should have. I guess I was expecting a major fuckup on Eren's part or something for Levi to react like that rather than a verbal disagreement that they resolved anyway. Ah well, it was still a good episode though. "Next episode: The Basement". Fucking Christ it's finally time. There better be something real good down there after all these years of waiting otherwise I'm gonna be pissed. |
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/ I'm level  on mal-badges. View my badges. |
Weebover9000 said: CondemneDio said: OK episode overall, even though it was slow. And yup, Armin surviving that was stupid as all hell. Plot Armor 100. The stupid thing is coming into this type of show this far in and not expecting plot armor imo I think the first season made it pretty clear that pretty much anyone could die, except Eren. |
| Amazing episode but once again for the 34th time this season 3 part 2, the villain escape ! Wow so unexpected ! Bertholt has been saved for the 10th time :)! |
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Lel0uchZer0 said: Eren was begging because he was completely helpless against Levi without his Titan form; he tried and lost half of his teeth! LOLWeebover9000 said: Eren was clearly obsessed if he grabbed Levis foot to make him stop for a moment after being bitch smacked into the ground with half his teeth knocked out from the punch and crying still, and its pretty ironic you cant give a good argument either without calling every small thing she does retarded and not elaborating on why it is, you just say "she did this and its retarded", also, did nothing? Did you even watch the cour? She stopped reiner from giving chase to Eren by slapping a thunderspear into that leg of his, she almost got bert in the nape with those thunderspears, would have too if it wasnt for his steam power, and basically hesitated until hange came out and blew open the jaw, thus letting her use her last thunder spear to send reiner out of his titan Compared to levi she didn't do anything and also she had thunder spears unlike levi Also eren didn't jump levi unlike mikasa . He was begging him to let armin live but wasn't agressive unlike mikasa. I call her out because no one acts this crazy in that whole anime On the other hand, maybe Mikasa believed she could beat Levi in that weakened state, hence chose to force her way and confront him. It seems like only another Ackerman can handle an Ackerman physically, just like how Levi was the only one capable of dealing with Kenny from the previous season. |
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/ I'm level on mal-badges. View my badges. |
shane_nichols said: Let's see if you'd still hate I hate that cart titan and it's stupid red eys! Always saving Zeke's ass so annoying! that ugly titan after next few episodes. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/ I'm level on mal-badges. View my badges. |
| LOL at the people arguing at who should've lived or died. A lot of fan favorites will be dying soon. I remember the author wanted to kill off everyone but his editor or someone had to stop him from doing it. The manga is ending soon since I believe it is in its final arc. The author is married, probably wants to focus on his private life or like any other mangaka, start working on other things. Shingeki no Kyojin may be his only success from here on out and anything that comes after might become an utter disappointment, who knows? I hope that he does kill off more people before he wraps up the manga. Honestly, wouldn't care if Mikasa, Armin or Eren died. It would make the story interesting and show that he isn't scared to kill off the main cast just to please the fans. People are forgetting that just because someone can become titan shapeshifter does not mean they're completely safe or immortal for that matter. Armin dying would've been better than him becoming a titan. Bravo on Yuki Kaji's performance as Eren Jaegar. He delivered his lines flawlessly. |
ApawtheCorgiJoJun 3, 2019 2:54 AM
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| Guys, just watch couple episodes of Road Runner, lol |
Frostbytes said: Danpmss said: What are you even talking about? Do you know what ad hominem even mean or you are just calling out fallacies to sound smart and ignore his valid point? Thank you. True, calling out fallacies in arguments in a discussion forum is trying to sound smart. We already had a whole page discussion regarding this whole exception "valid" argument, so if anyone doesn't have anything to add as new points, please stop quoting me, thank you. Except you aren't, because that wasn't an ad hominem in the slightest. If you are so entitled as to call someone out for a fallacy they didn't even commit, accept the fact that I can call on your own fallacy of Tu quoque just as fine. |
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CondemneDio said: Weebover9000 said: The stupid thing is coming into this type of show this far in and not expecting plot armor imo I think the first season made it pretty clear that pretty much anyone could die, except Eren. Not really, Armin should be the one guaranteed to survive until the end, since he is the narrator from the very start... So yeah, considering that, I would reconsider the argument itself. |
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Frostbytes said: Danpmss said: Except you aren't, because that wasn't an ad hominem in the slightest. If you are so entitled as to call someone out for a fallacy they didn't even commit, accept the fact that I can call on your own fallacy of Tu quoque just as fine. Cheers, we had a nice "discussion" here for calling out each other's fallacies, thanks again for adding nothing. You really like Tu quoque, don't you? This very phrase if pretty much the definition of it yet again. I'm adding to the discussion solely by proving your hypocritical accusation against what could be considered a relevant point to the topic being discussed in this episode, in case it wasn't obvious enough for you already (unless of course, every other similar reply to his -including my own- that used or defended this same argument shall be disregarded by you as "ad hominem" apparently, what would you say?). So yeah, deal with another quote and many others to come, just as you made your input, everybody is free to give their opinion regarding your own argument. If you can't do that just opt not to discuss in a forum, it's that simple. |
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| This episode reminds me so much of MHA 3x12, the big battle happened the episode prior and now there is this slower, more emotionnal moment where characters really express themselves and it surprisingly hits almost as hard even with not much happening. No background music was a perfect adaptation choice, letting the VA's fully carrying the atmosphere. I don't think I've ever been so emotionnal watching SnK. Now can we predict that next week discussion thread is going to be one of the longest on this website ? |
| I finally got to see this part adapted. I still feel a little bad for Bertholt. Zekes similarities to Grisha should be noted. |
Modernoir said: BestBoiEren said: -anime only here- Idk what happens, but I dont think you can outright say if its good or bad, I mean we will never know how the story wouldve been if Erwin survived, so there is nothing to compare it to We don't know what would've happened if Erwin survived, but since the manga actually HAS progressed significantly ahead, we DO know what's happened as a result of this decision. And personally I think Isayama's put most doubts to rest, it's very clear that this wasn't a decision made as a cop-out and actually has a lot riding on it. If we were in the grey (which we were) for a while I'd understand but I feel more comfortable in assuring animeonlys that things only get better and better despite the controversy of this arc's ending. also you being an animeonly is something I never expected given that profile picture, ahah. Ah, I see. Well I mean I do think choosing Armin is the logical choice, but personally If I was there, and I had the decision I would've picked Erwin. Well, I just found this pic somewhere, thats why I have it :D |
Danpmss said: CondemneDio said: I think the first season made it pretty clear that pretty much anyone could die, except Eren. Not really, Armin should be the one guaranteed to survive until the end, since he is the narrator from the very start... So yeah, considering that, I would reconsider the argument itself. I think the narrator voice is an anime only thing, and it doesnt really guarantee Armin surviving until the end. |
| Great episode. Anyone complaining about the events that unfolded this episode is just salty. |
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DupeusT31 said: The only thing I didn't like in the ep is that they didn't include Reiner crying when realizing Bertolt was gonna die. I doubt he was crying in the manga. Details like a tear could barely be seen in the manga, nor in the anime. It's also unlikely that he had time to hear about Bertolt's death when they just got up on the wall. |
| Saving Armin was the right choice but omg, it was hard for everyone there. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: He lost his right arm. He uses his left arm on that sceneCHOOOOOOOTTO MATTE, did Erwin not lose his hand BEFORE they got... their hands on the injection? Isn't it Kenny's? Am I mistaking the chronology here, or did they make a shameful blunder? |
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| This episode was so well executed that I, for a moment, forgot how much I disliked the serumbowl. I loved their choice of having no music for most of the episode plus that track in the end sounded beautiful. Voice actors did amazing job as well. But I still can't forgive how contrived all this felt. Whole arc was riddled with Reiner asspulls and this was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. First, Erwin surviving all this time on Floch's back while he was ascending and then descending the walls while having his organs demolished was already a big stretch. Armin was far the worse one. There's just no chance surviving having your entire body essentially fried and falling 50 meters on the solid surface and being able to live for long enough for all that drama around you to play out, which was like 20 minutes. 15 at least. As someone who never liked Armin, his death made me appreciate him so much more, it was heroic, epic, and sad. He had such a "beautiful" death, but his survival made me feel kinda cheated. Unfortunately all these asspulls, plot armors and contrivances are not letting me like this arc as much as others. At least it's finally over and we can focus on the upcoming stuff that in my opinion makes already great Attack on Titan into a phenomenal story. |
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