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| Not in her boundary field, she was holding Taiga, and was in a confined room. |
Insertanamehere said: Not in her boundary field, she was holding Taiga, and was in a confined room. IN VN? Sure So she kills Taiga faster than Saber reaches her and then teleports. Or that FAte route bad end plays out and she still gets Seiba. GG In Anime? LOLUFO. Good luck beating Caster in that field. But naw, let's portray Shirou as the one in the wrong. |
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| 9/10 great Anime |
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| I had low expectations but now just wow! i'm really hyped i'm going to start watching season 2 right now :D |
| "A life that lives without doing anything is the same as a slow death" -Lelouch Vi Brittania |
| I have no idea wtf is happening here but has someone who haven't played the VN overall that was pretty great. 8.5/10 Not a big fan of shirou tho but hey, it can change right ... right ??? |
DatRandomDudeOct 30, 2015 12:44 AM
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Espada92 said: Nah, Rider is dead and that is thatLoving it so far. Also this Caster is pretty cool. I just don't like how Rider got killed so fast. But maybe there's more to it. She'll get her spotlight in HF though |
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| good series overall...although the story so far is meh and the MC is so fuckin anoiyng and childish the action scenes were beyond epic. I guess they didnt call this Unlimited Budget Works for nothing 8/10 |
| Something is wrong with the number of command seals. They start out with 3, right? Shirou used one at the very beginning, then later he summoned Saber into battle when they were trapped in some bounded field, so that would mean he has only one left, which was transferred to Caster, who used a command seal on Saber... so there should be zero left, which means Saber shouldn't obey ANYONE... Is there something wrong with this logic? |
| What's the point of all this? // There's no point. I'm doing it because I can. That's all there is to it. // What will be left behind after this? // Nothing at all. She'll die and I'll burn out. The end. That's all. (Requiem for the Phantom) |
KnKTGoS said: Something is wrong with the number of command seals. They start out with 3, right? Shirou used one at the very beginning, then later he summoned Saber into battle when they were trapped in some bounded field, so that would mean he has only one left, which was transferred to Caster, who used a command seal on Saber... so there should be zero left, which means Saber shouldn't obey ANYONE... Is there something wrong with this logic? It refills from the grail. While servants are not summoned, the seals are hosted within the grail. Since a proper Assassin was never summoned and this one is basically a fictional familiar filling up the class, Assassin seals were not given out. So when the ownership goes to caster, Saber's command seal amount refills from the left-over seals back to full. |
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| Watching Kirei being badass again was cool. But, I'm not sure why those golems represented trouble for him. I mean, even Shirou managed to get some of those with a mop. AC_4ce said: good series overall...although the story so far is meh and the MC is so fuckin anoiyng and childish the action scenes were beyond epic. I guess they didnt call this Unlimited Budget Works for nothing 8/10 I agree with the MC part, but he is way WORSE in the -Fate- route, this one here is better than that, and the Shirou in HF better still. I also give this half season a 8/10 |
HumbertoZeroApr 13, 2016 1:42 PM
HDarkmantis said: Watching Kirei being badass again was cool. But, I'm not sure why those golems represented trouble for him. I mean, even Shirou managed to get some of those with a mop. Because they are still something that poses a threat and can pose a threat to even servants. And even if not as skilled as Kirei, Shirou is still HIGHLY trained in fighting and that "mop" was stronger than any weapon possible during that time.And he was not fighting more than one or two at the time, unlike Kirei. I agree with the MC part, but he is way WORSE in the -Fate- route, this one here is better than that, and the Shirou in HF better still. Again. Shirou did nothing here that would not make sense. Its Saber and Rin who were being unreasonable because they do not know the scale of Caster's capabilities while Shirou has seen it first-hand. Any outright confrontation would lead to all of them being killed. The anime removed multiple things(like string tightening around Taiga's neck as Saber defies orders and rushes to attack or the fact that Saber was okay with Taiga dying and urged Shirou to sacrifice Taiga) that showcase that making it harder to understand in adaptation. And no, HF Shirou is worse than Fate Shirou. Fate Shirou at least sticks to what he thinks instead of |
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Fai said: HDarkmantis said: Watching Kirei being badass again was cool. But, I'm not sure why those golems represented trouble for him. I mean, even Shirou managed to get some of those with a mop. Because they are still something that poses a threat and can pose a threat to even servants. And even if not as skilled as Kirei, Shirou is still HIGHLY trained in fighting and that "mop" was stronger than any weapon possible during that time.And he was not fighting more than one or two at the time, unlike Kirei. I agree with the MC part, but he is way WORSE in the -Fate- route, this one here is better than that, and the Shirou in HF better still. Again. Shirou did nothing here that would not make sense. Its Saber and Rin who were being unreasonable because they do not know the scale of Caster's capabilities while Shirou has seen it first-hand. Any outright confrontation would lead to all of them being killed. The anime removed multiple things(like string tightening around Taiga's neck as Saber defies orders and rushes to attack or the fact that Saber was okay with Taiga dying and urged Shirou to sacrifice Taiga) that showcase that making it harder to understand in adaptation. And no, HF Shirou is worse than Fate Shirou. Fate Shirou at least sticks to what he thinks instead of Well, in the end that's my opinion of Shirou. After I finish UBW anime i'll continue reading UBW and HF so I can build my ultimate opinion. Thanks anyway for for replies :) |
| Cant believe Emiya is such a child and an idiot, really fucking pissed of at him, he ruined the whole episode for me, hope season 2 does better |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
joe_g7 said: Cant believe Emiya is such a child and an idiot, really fucking pissed of at him, he ruined the whole episode for me, hope season 2 does better IKR, how dare he try to make sure they all do not get slaughtered in an instant and how dare he actually care for what essentially is his sister. |
AhenshihaelApr 30, 2016 3:29 PM
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Fai said: joe_g7 said: Cant believe Emiya is such a child and an idiot, really fucking pissed of at him, he ruined the whole episode for me, hope season 2 does better IKR, how dare he try to make sure they all do not get slaughtered in an instant and how dare he actually care for what essentially is his sister. I know what he did was the "right way", but I still cant help myself to be pissed at him, he gave up too easily and in short he still doesn't look at the war seriously, thats the impression he's left to me |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
joe_g7 said: Fai said: IKR, how dare he try to make sure they all do not get slaughtered in an instant and how dare he actually care for what essentially is his sister. I know what he did was the "right way", but I still cant help myself to be pissed at him, he gave up too easily and in short he still doesn't look at the war seriously, thats the impression he's left to me What should he have done? Any sort of offensive action would have led to Caster killing them all including taiga. Trying to compromise was the only way for them to not get nuked to death or get themselves killed, especially since Caster is not the type of character who would just nuke everyone anyway after she got what she wanted. Its not just "right" action. It is pretty much the only course of action he could take that would not end with them all getting murdered and Caster getting Saber anyway. They could have 200 Rins and Shirous there it would not make a difference. Not only they are facing a servant who holds a hostage but they are facing someone who wields magecraft on the level from Age of Gods(GG ufo on not explaining the difference and meaning of that in the previous fight) and Caster could dispel anything they could throw at her with a cough. The moment Saber would do any action Taiga would be dead in a milisecond(blame ufo from removing the scene of the strings tightening around Taiga's neck just as Saber charges, which is what leads to Shirou stopping Saber) and everyone else would follow. And THEN Caster would get Saber anyway. Trying to give himself up provides a chance for at least Rin and Taiga to survive. Shirou is pretty much the only one in main cast who is actually looking at what is going on in realistic way and understands how fucked up and bullshit the whole "grail war" idea is, especially being someone who was essentially "created" via the consequences of previous war. Rin is too much of a screw up to notice the important things and is too focused on trying to put on the facade of "competent heir", which tends to fall apart when shit gets real (hence why Shirou's been trying to break that shell and get Rin to act more human so she does not destroy herself and become like Caster) and Saber could not care less if half people there died, as long as she defeated her opponent and got one step closer to the grail. Out of the three of them, Shirou is also the only one who actually has seen the extent of Caster's capabilities and the level of magic she wields and comprehends well enough that they have no chance at all. The situation had no "right" answers, just the ones that get everyone killed and the ones that give a chance for some of them to survive. Its all about getting him to comprehend that you CANT save everyone always and sometimes pushing yourself past the limits might get others killed. The reason this scene works well in source material and is a failure here is because the location was changed. The actual scene is supposed to happen in VERY enclosed room space, which would limit their movement. And the string scene is supposed showcase that Saber nearly got Taiga(and them all) killed. Ufo changed the location to make it more "Flashy" and failed to portray the overall point of what is going on(I am not sure if "Failed" is the correct term since the director of this made a lot of comments which make it clear he hates and does not understand the main character), which results in misunderstandings. |
AhenshihaelMay 1, 2016 6:56 AM
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| I was 23 minutes into this episode and didn't realize it was 48 minutes. lol DAT BATTING CAGE SCENE! WAIFU IS KAWAII AF! DAT BRIDGE SCENE! AMAZING! Atmosphere was beautiful. Damn you, Shirou. You made my waifu get stabbed, yell in pain, and shed tears. Those are sins you cannot be forgiven for(Before anyone replies to this specific comment, waifu > everything else). OG. KOTOMINE. KIREI. IS. BACK! HOLY SHIT! THIS/DIS ILLUSION playing made me scream with excitement, especially by LiSA. That was cool. Nostalgic AF! Funny how this season ends against Caster. |
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Rob19MAL said: Oh, ufo. lol That has nothing to do with Ufo. Zero's structure was a copypasta of FSN as Zero was pretty much just a bonus material mean to align all the revelations and reveals from FSN in order from oldest to newest event. |
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Didn't say it did. I got Fai to reply to my comment as intended. Just as planned. lol |
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| BS.....ufotable what have u done with Assasin!?!?!? |
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willsygle said: dunsparcedude said: Disliked the anime-original shit, but teared up a bit when Disillusion started playing. Spring can not come any sooner. Good song although it's edit version from 2004 series If you mean the DEEN anime, that one was from 2006. Disillusion is also the opening intro to the visual novel of 2004. Why did you reply to a post from 1.5 years ago? lol |
| Last episode of this season, of double duration, with nice moments, but a little boring, very predictable and without great fights... for the moment is the worst season that i watch of fate/stay saga... 6/10. |
GabbyHeart1 said: don't worry, rider gets a little somethin somethin in other parts of fate/stay night Really like the relationship development between the four and would like to continue seeing where it goes. I love how caster is the major threat in the series, I hope to see more in the second season. I feel like there is . I can't wait to see Archers backstory, and I feel bad for Rider. |
don't worry, rider gets a little somethin somethin in other parts of fate/stay night Awww Yay!! Thank you. |
| Finally got around to this! Honestly a bit disappointed, really doesn't even come close to the greatness of the VN. Expected more after F/Z, but I suppose its not possible to make a 100% faithful adaptation considering most of the character building and back story comes from inner-monologues. DISILLUSION nostalgia! :') ufotable gave me tons of cute Saber faces this episode, quite satisfied ^^ 8/10 |
| I think it was okay even though its not done yet |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| Holy shit, I didn' think someone could fuck up as hard as Shirou did there... just let Saber fight goddamnit. But no, he had to lose her in the most stupid way. Well the story is still more enjoyable than Deen Night I suppose and the animation is superb. 7/10 but neither story or characters really impress me. |
Gator said: Holy shit, I didn' think someone could fuck up as hard as Shirou did there... just let Saber fight goddamnit. But no, he had to lose her in the most stupid way. Well the story is still more enjoyable than Deen Night I suppose and the animation is superb. 7/10 but neither story or characters really impress me. And what choice did he have anyway? If he made Saber move even an inch towards Caster then surely the latter would quickly dispose of Taiga which is, mind you, the most important person to him at that moment. |
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Gator said: Holy shit, I didn' think someone could fuck up as hard as Shirou did there... just let Saber fight goddamnit. But no, he had to lose her in the most stupid way. Well the story is still more enjoyable than Deen Night I suppose and the animation is superb. 7/10 but neither story or characters really impress me. IF Saber moves even an inch, Caster snaps Taiga's neck and literally murders everyone in the field with dozens of blasts targeted at them. And Saber's attack would have done jack shit as already shown in Archer's fight with her - Caster can easily bend reality to her will via true magic level of power. She could easily teleport out of her range or switch herself with a clone and then bombard everybody with spells that could easily mess up everyone there. Which is something Saber and Rin are unaware of while Shirou already had time to see Caster fight and measure her strengths when Caster fought Archer. What Shirou did saved everyone's lives at cost of losing Saber, which is a better outcome. Its not a perfect outcome but its a compromise that still saved everyone that Shirou could save which is the damn point. Mind you its clearer in the source because this was changed a lot in the adaptation - it was supposed to be happening inside Shirou's house and Caster was about to murder Taiga the moment Saber rushed towards her and Shirou had to stop her. |
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| I saw the strings around Taiga's neck clearly loosening up though and Saber pushing Caster into a corner. I don't see how Saber could've lost that fight anymore after getting this close to Caster, Caster was surprised that Saber stopped after all and didn't seem like she was going to win this figth at all. Well just my two cents of course and how I experienced this episode :3 |
| A nice long episode. Rin looked great with those glasses. Felt bad for Shirou in this episode. Totally forgot how bad ass Kirei was. |
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| Hmm.. I mean, not bad. For some reason, I wasn't that into this anime as much, but it was pretty good :) 6/10 The date thing was pretty cute even though it felt awkward for a scene since the concept of this anime should be more focused on action imo, from the plotline and whatnot. But whuttevs. I understand it was Rin's idea to get Shirou back to feeling like himself again, soooo. I guess so lol. Saber and her food <33 |
| Amazing episode! The date section was nice! I thought Rin was serious at first, but she's just teasing. Caster is such a bitch. Lol at her Noble Phantasm "Rule Breaker". As if it's not obvious enough. Lol Archer can pretty much see Rin naked at any time he wants. It's been awhile since we last saw Kirei's blade. When he used that while running away, it made me nostalgic and how badass he's still is. Poor Saber. Guess we'll see more punishment from her in the future. As usual, Shirou is useless without Saber. I just hope he focuses more on himself this time around. Man, teasing Gilgamesh and all. I definitely can't wait for him to take the spotlight in S2!!!! Love LiSA's ED song for this episode. Miss her voice from Zero! |
| That was such a great surprise to hear Illusion ED again. The originsl ver. is better tho. Still have no idea who might be Lancer's master.. Or I just can't remember as usual. |
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| The first 1/3 of this episode kind of made me want a school slice of life romance, if we're being honest. Regardless, strong episode. Obviously Shirou will continue to get involved, probably by using more of his projection/strengthening magic. Great season, looking forwards to the second one. |
| Wow I was not expecting that plot twist :O I thought Shirou and Saber would definitely make it till the end of the war. Now Saber has to do what Caster says.. great 1st cour, 9/10 |
| Shirou: i see u & i are going on a date ___ WHAAAAAAT??? ME: Shirou u know u have long wires (slow reaction) XD ur reaction was priceless XD he needs to think, berserker master want to play more with him so if he tells her what happens she goes after caster to get Saber back to him so she could kill him in future, cause that the type she is Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
NexuNov 2, 2017 2:59 PM
| Well, that was actually a pretty good season finale. That's proof that the extent of Shirou's altruism really can do more harm than good. Not saying I claim to know what would have happened had Shirou not used a command seal to stop Saber, but nonetheless. The date scene was really cute. Tohsaka's personality is great, very caring, but also very assertive. It was cute to see all three of them smiling for once, and actually having a good time without Archer's intervention. However, there was one thing that really bothered me at the end of the episode... Tohsaka told Archer that her pact with Shirou will hold until he declares that he quit the Holy Grail War. Meanwhile, when Shirou retruns to her, she seems to have no inclination to protect Shirou, and she tells Shirou undoubtedly to quit the War. What's up with that? Well, unto next season I suppose. |
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| Oh man. I didn't think there was a second season and was PISSED about the ending. All good now. See you guys on the second season forum topic. I can't wait to see some epic fight scenes. Even more than this season. |
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| Well this EP became a complete 360 for me. From fun/cute to serious/dramatic in a heartbeat. Not saying I dislike it though but it just caught me by surprise :o Welp ~ Off to the next then! - 8/10 - |
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| The episode was Okay, not perfect but okay. |
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