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Mar 19, 2010 9:52 PM
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As much as I'm enjoying this series now, I can't believe I almost dropped it after the slow beginning!!!

Anyway, Hachi has become such an unpleasant character to follow, and while Takumi might not be the best still become more respectable imo. Also, I have to agree the baby ruined it for everyone... I guess it would technically be Takumi's fault... but whatever.

Lastly, I can't help but feel sorry for Shin and Nobu... they're totally getting shafted here.
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Apr 14, 2010 11:46 AM

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Man this shows fucked up
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Apr 18, 2010 9:23 PM

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You know what would be a hilarious plot twist...if it was Shouji's baby. GOD I would laugh my ass off.
May 4, 2010 10:31 PM

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It's amazing how ugly and intense this show has become. And I'm lovin every second of it.
Oh the drama!


May 13, 2010 2:58 AM

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For Shin. :(
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
May 14, 2010 5:15 PM

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Is it bad that I can relate to nearly every character in this love-web at the moment, and understand why they're acting like they are? Even why Nana chose Takumi? That I'd chose Takumi over Nobu in this situation?

Great episode, as usual.
Jun 11, 2010 1:57 PM

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Oh, bloody hell...
Hachi's face at the table hurt me.

Good symbolism @ the strawberry glasses.
Aug 9, 2010 1:53 PM

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This is getting too painful... I want to strangle Takumi. I almost punched my monitor. Poor Nanas. I'm not sure how much I can make myself watch anymore.
Dec 4, 2010 8:41 AM

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I wonder if Nana has some memory loss. Everything is so painful.It terribly freaked me out when Hachiko didn't talk to Nana... and these glasses...
What will be the end, which will be more affected?
Dec 22, 2010 9:51 PM
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Its pissing me off how everyone keeps on leaving Hachi (except that damn Takumi) and well, now of all times she really needs someone to help her out..
I was kind of expecting Nana to break the other glass, or try to cover up the last one.

Takumis kind of freaking me out. I don't think it'll be too long before he finally snaps.
Jan 20, 2011 4:09 PM

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It was so sad :< I almost cried for Nana :< (not Hachi but Nana) She was so confused after breaking glass T___T I really want to have friend like that :< Nana wehere are people like you? :<
Feb 1, 2011 11:13 AM

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Takumi is indeed acting like a child whose favorite toy got taken away-so possessive and controlling, and uncaring of the pain he causes others. If he loved Nana, he would not stand to hear her described as a woman who is after his money.

argh! I am almost afraid to watch more.

Feb 19, 2011 8:50 PM
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Mikiyo said:
Basically this baby ruined everyones' life.
Lol cruel but true true....
Mar 22, 2011 4:31 PM

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Hachi not speaking at the table made me feel very sad.

and that sex scene ( is it appropriate to call that rape? ) was disturbing.

shit is going from bad to worse

SOMEONE STOP THE MADNESSSS
Apr 27, 2011 4:40 PM

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This is what I wanted Nana to do to Hachiko in this episode.

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May 11, 2011 6:01 AM

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ashllee said:
Reira likes Takumi, Shin likes Reira. Reira runs to Yasu. Yasu likes Nana? Nana's with Ren. Hachi is out of her mind letting Takumi do that to her with Nana next door! and poor Nobu...
i swear if you drew the characters from NANA in like a love mind-map thingy you'd get one really screwed up web.

That's EXACTLY what was going through my mind when Reira asked Shin for Yasu's number, and Yasu ran to her... It seems the only person that's actually safe and not included in this crazy love... web (definitely too complicated to just be a love triangle, or square, or even pentagon, for that matter) is that one other dude in TrapNest. XD

I... have to say, I was shocked at Takumi's actions. Hachi just seemed scared of him, to me. And Nana commenting that she's not "Takumi's pet" made me think that hey, yeah, that's exactly what she's acting like: as though she were Takumi's pet dog, i.e. something he owns, not someone he views as an equal or partner.

Nobu's been pretty strong through all of this. At least on the surface? ._.'' Feel bad for a lot of characters... Takumi not included, however.
Aug 21, 2011 12:36 PM

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OMG I can't believe this. It's like she's into Takumi again!??! I think a lot of women would have acted the same way though, there's no doubt. And Nana's getting jealous over Hachi is all too realistic bitching.
Aug 21, 2011 12:56 PM

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merle_noir said:


I... have to say, I was shocked at Takumi's actions. Hachi just seemed scared of him, to me. And Nana commenting that she's not "Takumi's pet" made me think that hey, yeah, that's exactly what she's acting like: as though she were Takumi's pet dog, i.e. something he owns, not someone he views as an equal or partner.


What do you expect Takumi to do? Isn't he doing enough? What equal partner are you talking about when the bride-to-be was screwing around with another guy just a few days ago!?! Where's her loyalty? If she's serious about marrying Takumi she could at the very least pretend to enjoy it as she had with Nobu! It's the least she could do, Takumi's a human being too, how much crap do you expect him to take? What equal partner? Does she view her men as equal partners?

Her being a dog is more than praise worthy. I've heard and known of many girls in real life who let themselves fall pregnant to get somebody else man and none of them have succeeded in my experience. That tactic seems to work well for Hachi though - in fact she seems so messed up that no one would actually even accuse her of being a gold digger!
Aug 22, 2011 2:47 PM

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Shin..and Nobu):
Dec 24, 2011 4:16 AM

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Awwe. People seem to be very angry with Hachi by this episode. I genuinely feel bad for her and more like her decision hurts her more than anyone else. I don't like Takumi but at this point I'm glad that I finally understand him. Their loveless marriage could turn into love by some chance. Probably not knowing how selfish Takumi is and how selfish Hachi can be though. I'm sure she'll at least gain happiness from raising the child though.I don't know, this drama is just all sorts of wow and addicting.
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Mar 19, 2012 6:00 PM

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Everyone's relationships are so fkkkeeed but Junko's and Kyosuke's. xD
Mar 22, 2012 11:09 AM
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OriginANIME said:
Everyone's relationships are so fkkkeeed but Junko's and Kyosuke's. xD


Other than those two, everybody likes someone that likes somebody else. Relationship triangle? fk that, this show is a relationship maze.

But I like how realistic it is though. In real life 18-24 year olds hanging around get infatuated with each other, date, and yes, fk. That's what I love about this show.

It's the "real" aspect of relationships, while stuff like Clannad might be the more idealized, fairytle take on romance. Nothing inherently wrong with either there's room for both.
May 2, 2012 7:34 PM

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Really excellent episode, but very sad. 5/5.
May 11, 2012 9:12 PM

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Mikiyo said:
Basically this baby ruined everyones' life.


This is why she should get a abortion.

I bet the evil lord is actually the baby!

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May 22, 2012 7:44 AM

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I think I died a little inside...
May 31, 2012 5:37 AM

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God, This is painful
Stop it, please...
Jun 2, 2012 2:25 PM

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So amazing. I just lost all the respect I gained for Takumi in the last few episodes. I still believe he genuinely cares for Hachi, but I just can't stand that he insists on having sex in this tensed time, especially when Hachi pleaded with him not to. I still prefer him over Nobu, because he's responsible and will take care of the situation, but that one line he said: "Don't worry about anything and just focus on pleasing me." annoyed the crap outta me. I'm still waiting for some closure on Nobu and Hachi's relationship though. And I really want to see a heartfelt talk between Nana and Hachi sadface....
Poor Reira though. I feel so bad for her. It makes me somewhat annoyed though for her jealousy and reliance on Yasu.

Babies are evil. Bottom line. XD
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Jun 12, 2012 1:11 PM

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Poor girls. I'm surprised this anime is making feel a lot of emotions.
Sep 14, 2012 3:38 PM

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OriginANIME said:
Everyone's relationships are so fkkkeeed but Junko's and Kyosuke's. xD

Yup. LOL

Treefingers said:
Good symbolism @ the strawberry glasses.

I agree
Dec 5, 2012 9:21 PM

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Reira should just go with Shin..**sigh** Poor Shin :(
Jan 12, 2013 4:43 PM
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u guys do remember that Shin is 15 right?
Feb 16, 2013 11:01 AM

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Can't seem to enjoy the show anymore, to much of Takumi in every episode.

Mar 16, 2013 3:18 PM
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Gee, Takumi scared the hell out of me saying she belonged to someone else for to long WTF!

Nana's breakdown.... After the words at the begging I thought she would go for Yasu, but there goes Reira - poor Shin.

And Hachiko.. she's as if she was paralyzed - maybe of what she's done to all that she cared about, sooo want to believe that's the case, and that if not for Takumi saying he'll take care she wouldn't fall for him.

EDIT: the ending... Oh my.. it gets better each dense episode like this. The one to cry your a** out.
Jul 30, 2013 10:51 AM

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I'm enjoying this show, albeit with a fair amount of heartache, more and more. All the characters, even ones I hate (Takumi) are humanized. They do so many stupid things, but you identify with them anyways. You see a part of Takumi's good side, him being responsible, taking care of Nana's basic needs, but at the same time, he is so controlling that she is silent and he is making every decision. What will happen if someone stands up to him? Will he snap when he no longer has total control over everyone?

Very scary moment when Nana couldn't remember what happened to the glasses, wondering if she managed to save the first glass from falling and having no recollection about the second one. Very sad.

This show is wedging itself into my personal top 5 anime series.
Aug 7, 2013 5:44 AM

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I'm finding myself to be more and more torn between the two guys' and what Nana should do. Maybe that's why she's unable to speak and do things for herself.

But this is what happens when you don't use protection and can't deal with a baby. A lot of lives are being ruined. She needs to start taking responsibility. There's no need to sacrifice all of your friends and your relationships with them. Although what other option is there when you're broke, not married, and have no where to really go without depending or ruing people's lives.

Ugh Takumi's doing all the "right" things, but if he doesn't love Nana then there isn't a point... Hopefully he does grow to love her more, for the sake of Nana and their chid. And everyone else's lives. Ugh poor Hachiko :< Poor Nana as well, she sure isn't taking it well at all. I can't believe she was so pissed off at the table, there's better ways of handling this situation without being all weirdly possessive. I wonder if she really is in love with Hachi...

This show sure is dealing with a lot of taboo related things. Definitely knows how to make a good dramatic show.
Jan 26, 2014 8:26 AM

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You fucked up big time Nana or should I really start calling you Hachi... like thought the atmosphere is going downhill and very fast, I just wonder if things will get a bit more happier in the end!
Apr 9, 2014 6:14 PM

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It was a good decision to take a couple of hours break from watching this. If I didn't, my heart wouldn't have been able to take it.

Poor Shin :(

Does Takumi really love Hachi or is he marrying her just to keep her for himself?
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Jun 5, 2014 5:54 AM

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Layla!! Love itˇˇ ~~~ Hope Nana Osaki will be fine...
Dec 11, 2014 5:19 PM

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Really emotional episode. Takumi... what an asshole!
Jan 2, 2015 6:58 PM

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I want that stupid little son of a bitch Takumi to die in a fire
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Jan 4, 2015 5:06 PM

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Takami is a womanizer that makes me a bit sad for Hachi.
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Feb 1, 2015 11:03 PM

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... did Takumi actually essentially rape a pregnant woman? the fuuuuuck is WRONG WITH THIS SHOW?



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Feb 27, 2015 2:33 PM

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The Takumi/Hachi sex scene make me sick...seriously ugh. It's so painful seeing how Hachi/Nana relationship is starting to fade...damn this show ;_;

Mar 29, 2015 3:27 AM
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Just focus on making me happy?!? Yeah so turn around and spread your legs!!!???? WTF? Come on, this is totally unreal. Takumi is like good guy in the first minute, marrying her, supporting her and the baby, even paying the rent to Nana, buying a new house and finally even planning on meeting with her parents - but-in the next second he's practically raping her?!? Fulfilling wedding vows is one thing (whatever that is) but this is rape in my book!!! I don't know who is more fucked Takumi for doing it-nothing comes free I guess, I can see that he wants something(sex) in return or Tachiko for letting do it-with all her love for Nobu and Nana listening...
Apr 10, 2015 8:12 PM

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This episode was so painful to watch. In a bad way, actually. Takumi had his worst Kick the Dog moment, but I can't help but blame Hachi. I had never seen such an unsympathetic main character.
So many personality flaws, balanced only by her naiveté and kindness. Well, that's not enough. She is a despicable person, imo.
This series is overall good, because the character interactions and personalities are kind of realistic, while, on average, in other anime series they are highly unrealistic and childish. But the plot is carried by the usual cheap drama that we (or, at least, I) had already seen and hated in a lot of live action tv series.
Nobu introduced a nice heartwarming interlude that pleased me, decreasing my hate for the main character, but, as expected, it was promptly ruined. I can't help but hate this kind of plot device. I'm personally not entertained by this kind of drama and personality flaws driving the plot.
Of course I'm biased though. I don't like the strong bond between sex and affection that this series depict, and I'm maybe too pragmatic to understand the characters' feelings.
Jul 23, 2015 4:48 AM

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I think the only thing we guys are glad about from this episode is that Nobuo has cleared his mind for now apart from that it's going all downhill for everybody.

Man I got so pissed off when Hachi agreed to go to bed with Takumi while Nana was in the living room, what the fuck was that all about, even though she tried to resist a bit she should have just called for Nana or tell Takumi to off himself at that point. I don't blame Nana for breaking the glasses and running away, and whatever she decides to do from this point on I can't blame her.


Definitely one of the best episodes of the show so far.
    
   
Sep 7, 2015 5:46 AM

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"We'll get married, I'm looking for a new house, you're pregnant... now we'll have sex!" The hell is wrong with this guy!

And all the feels when Reira asked Shin of Yasu's number...
Oct 16, 2015 2:20 AM

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This was such an emotional episode.
I definitly saw Takumi's possessive nature in this episode.I hated how he pretty much told Nana1 that she was supposed to do what he wanted.
I really wish Nana1 and Nana2 could have reached a point in the series where they realized that they could learn to support each other because they're both weak and also in the process help each other grow and become better but at this point I don't think I'll see it and I think it's so sad how they seem to care so much for each other but at very crucial points they fail to bridge that gap between them due to their own personal issues.Unfortunately,they just only seem to keep hurting each other .
Hearing that Takumi was married and having a kid must have really hurt Reira.Reira was using Shin to fill the emptiness and he unwittingly fell for her in the process which cost him in the end.If he's writing a song on it then I guess he will survive.
I'm glad that despite everything at least Nobu is doing okay
Also I'm worried about Nana2.Did she blackout or something? I wonder if it could be health related?
Jan 21, 2016 6:02 PM

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wow, is all i can say.... its crazy how one persons selfishness can cause pain for so so so many... like lets see how many people were affected by this... takumi, nobu, nana, hachi, layla, and indirectly ren, yasu, shin, and the blonde dude... like holy shit
Feb 27, 2016 6:59 AM
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does anyone know the song that plays about 16 minutes into this episode? I couldn't find it on any soundtrack :( it's such a good song too
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