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Nov 3, 2018 11:22 AM

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Thing have slowed down quite a bit from last episode to this one as we transition to the real world, but this one was pretty interesting. I like how assertive Asuna and co. were in trying to figure out the mystery behind where Kirito is, and I'm looking forward to learning about the Alicization project next episode.
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Nov 3, 2018 11:23 AM

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So finally revealing what happened after the incident that night. So Kikuoka and Rath is involved as expected. Asuna's disguise was nice lol.
Nov 3, 2018 11:25 AM

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That was probably my least favourite episode. The harem is just boring to watch for me even if it is involved with important stuff. At least I liked the connection with Ordinal Scale and we got to see the place where everything takes place along with part of the crew that is involved in the whole STL project. Now I'm intrigued to see what exactly this thing does that can be useful for medical use.
Nov 3, 2018 11:37 AM

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with each progressing episode, I have more faith in this season of SAO so far....I mean, people were calling it THE best arc of the story.
Nov 3, 2018 11:37 AM
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Yea the episode but ok and all but can we take a moment to honor that CG helicopter?
Nov 3, 2018 11:38 AM

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I am actually pretty surprised they decided to use two episodes for the explanations concerning the other side. But given the amount of information they will have to provide it surely isn't a bad idea. The connection to Ordinal Scale (not only through the Augma but also through Yuna's "Longing" playing in the car) was awesome!
It would have been nice to see the ambulance scene but it's not that big of a loss.

Edit: And I also liked the addition of the SAO scene. In general, everything connected very well in this episode.
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Nov 3, 2018 11:41 AM
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That was probably my least favourite episode. The harem is just boring to watch for me even if it is involved with important stuff. At least I liked the connection with Ordinal Scale and we got to see the place where everything takes place along with part of the crew that is involved in the whole STL project. Now I'm intrigued to see what exactly this thing does that can be useful for medical use.




orgianlly it was only supposed to be his cousin and asuana not the others
Nov 3, 2018 11:42 AM

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Somehow I'm a little displeased that they're only showing the small village and that big tower on the monitors. It's making me assume the Underworld is enclosed in a small area (the village, Axiom's church and the mountain's other side). I was hoping the Underworld to be way more open and big (continually expanding?) but from the look of it, it's like 1-2 floors of Aincrad?
Nov 3, 2018 11:44 AM

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Stormiverse said:
Yea the episode but ok and all but can we take a moment to honor that CG helicopter?


Unlike the horrid CG we got in Overlord III xD
Nov 3, 2018 11:50 AM
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When it comes to sword art online I am more interested in the game than anything but it was nice to see what was happening behind the scenes. In my opinion the whole Asuna spy thing was way too obvious because I noticed it right off the bat. This episode was boring compared to the rest but in a way necessary. I understand that it is fictional but these characters would not be acting the way they are if this was in real life.
Nov 3, 2018 11:51 AM

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That was a great episode. It was more boring in LN and they improved a lot from there. I don't mind them skipping the ambulance scene. It is not very important in the grand scale of things.
Nov 3, 2018 11:55 AM

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Yui has and always will be the biggest plot device in this show. Really hoping she doesn't find a way to Kirito and conveniently solve everything.

Overall, episode was a pretty boring. I guess when we have as many episodes as we're are getting, you can take your time with these kind of episodes.
Nov 3, 2018 11:57 AM

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Tiande said:
Somehow I'm a little displeased that they're only showing the small village and that big tower on the monitors. It's making me assume the Underworld is enclosed in a small area (the village, Axiom's church and the mountain's other side). I was hoping the Underworld to be way more open and big (continually expanding?) but from the look of it, it's like 1-2 floors of Aincrad?


They'll get into the details of stuff like that next episode but it essentially has 1500km in diameter just for the flatlands alone. So yea it's very huge. We simply haven't been allowed to see much of it yet.
Nov 3, 2018 12:08 PM

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"F" sadly her chest is shrinking. maybe shes losing weight or wearing loose fitting clothes but still. bring back the wincest chest.
Around and around the cycle goes.
Nov 3, 2018 12:20 PM
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Tiande said:
Somehow I'm a little displeased that they're only showing the small village and that big tower on the monitors. It's making me assume the Underworld is enclosed in a small area (the village, Axiom's church and the mountain's other side). I was hoping the Underworld to be way more open and big (continually expanding?) but from the look of it, it's like 1-2 floors of Aincrad?


UnderWorld is really big, not only there is a lot of village and city, the main city is also really big with like 4 Empire in it lol

and all of these aside, there is equally big Dark Territory !

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Yui has and always will be the biggest plot device in this show. Really hoping she doesn't find a way to Kirito and conveniently solve everything.

Overall, episode was a pretty boring. I guess when we have as many episodes as we're are getting, you can take your time with these kind of episodes.


This EP was really important and i did not find it boring at all, plus it focus Asuna and her character a bit more, and I'm glad they are taking their time doing it, one of the reason first 2 season had a lot of flaw in development was coz they never did these kind of EP and only focus on showing action.

but anyway, Fear not, that if there is like 50 EP we have like 44 of them In UnderWorld. so a few in RL is needed ( plus later RL EP also got Action )

btw a bit of guessing Spoiler maybe,
Nov 3, 2018 12:22 PM
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Awesome episode!

Is always nice to see real world, and finally an episode with a lot of my goddess Asuna! At start when Asuna was about to cry, i was close to cry too hehehe

Was cool to see everyone working together to find Kirito, and Yui was MVP this episode, "Mama, it is your turn to find Kirito" as he did before. Love that moment.

In last part didn't expect the blonde girl to be Asuna, but i was suspicious about blonde girl!

Asuna is for sure the best girl for me! Her appearing there was a giant cliffhanger for me, that moment was wonderfull! "WHERE IS KIRITO"!

Seems like next episode we will learn about Alicization Project!

Btw, this episode was better than i tought, cause of turtle title i was thinking that Kirito and Eogeo would defead a turtle in underworls, lmao!
Nov 3, 2018 12:28 PM

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Quite the infiltration there, Asuna.
Nov 3, 2018 12:34 PM

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Asuna by the end of the episode
Around and around the cycle goes.
Nov 3, 2018 12:35 PM

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Limaolc said:

Btw, this episode was better than i tought, cause of turtle title i was thinking that Kirito and Eogeo would defead a turtle in underworls, lmao!


Wow haha. That's a surprisingly absurd yet interesting interpretation. I'm pretty sure Kawahara would implement something like that into Progressive.
Nov 3, 2018 12:47 PM

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Great episode. I really love Asuna <3 own
"No matter where you go, everyone's connected." Iwakura, Lain.

Nov 3, 2018 12:48 PM
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lol Look what i found :
https://imgur.com/ovLPgmb

someone highlighted the novel about parts that was removed or changed in this episode from the novel !

it's kind of too small tho, so I doubt i can read it lol

sadly i can't find the original poster for this lol
Nov 3, 2018 12:48 PM

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Holy fuck. Probably the saddest scene of the whole SAO. I'm still crying at such tragedy ;_;
Nov 3, 2018 12:51 PM
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Positively surprised at how good that episode was tbh

And lol that Suguha comparison is hilarious
Nov 3, 2018 1:02 PM

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So they kidnapped Kirito, poor guys, they don't know how Asuna is when she's angry!
Nov 3, 2018 1:04 PM
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Illyricus said:
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Holy fuck. Probably the saddest scene of the whole SAO. I'm still crying at such tragedy ;_;


She got so sad that Kirito is brain damaged and missing that she deflated xD

but seriously, i didn't notice this at all when watching the EP, some ppl's priority of what to focus is quite interesting :P
Nov 3, 2018 1:09 PM
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Ulquiorra said:
So they kidnapped Kirito, poor guys, they don't know how Asuna is when she's angry!


idk if it was in this EP or will be later,
but in novel Asuna actually lift the guy by his shirt collar or something asking about Kirito or something :D
can't remember if he lift him up in air or just pull up tho xD
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Tiande said:
Somehow I'm a little displeased that they're only showing the small village and that big tower on the monitors. It's making me assume the Underworld is enclosed in a small area (the village, Axiom's church and the mountain's other side). I was hoping the Underworld to be way more open and big (continually expanding?) but from the look of it, it's like 1-2 floors of Aincrad?


The Village Eugeo and Kirito are coming from was a decent distance away from the mountains, and much further away from the Axiom Church. (The place with the huge tower.)

There are multiple villages spread out in different directions away from the church, and even a village in-between the church Eugeo and Kirito were coming from and the church.

What's shown on the monitor doesn't quote do the world justice.

Then you also have to consider that the Dark Territory has it's own huge expanse...
Nov 3, 2018 1:15 PM
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So everyone it's NOT A VIDEO GAME it's a simulation



it's basically the Matrix
Nov 3, 2018 1:18 PM

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Huh... That seems like an Animation error. I wonder if they will fix it for the Blu-Ray. Then we could say Sugu got a "BR" expansion.
Nov 3, 2018 1:34 PM

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neonie said:
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Huh... That seems like an Animation error. I wonder if they will fix it for the Blu-Ray. Then we could say Sugu got a "BR" expansion.
Even in ALO her avatar is flat...
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It makes me sad to know that still hardly anyone knows what a visual novel is, even in the anime community.
Nov 3, 2018 1:38 PM

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ok this just became something big.... really enjoying this season..it is incorporating everything...even the movie love it
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neonie said:


Huh... That seems like an Animation error. I wonder if they will fix it for the Blu-Ray. Then we could say Sugu got a "BR" expansion.
Even in ALO her avatar is flat...


I went back and checked, and her ALO avatar still looks like it has breasts from the front. I really do feel like them looking slightly less big there is due to the fact that they are all in nightgowns. Which are typically very lose fitting.

But the casual clothes one, yeah, looks like an Animation error.
Nov 3, 2018 1:53 PM
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Another beautiful episode. Seeing Rinko for the 1st time in the anime was amazing. Lovely episode!!!! :)
Nov 3, 2018 1:53 PM

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Great to see more Asuna, she really is best girl, kinda sad her screen time will be limited in the first part of the series.
Nov 3, 2018 1:56 PM

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What a weak episode.

I felt like this season has been like a dream, it felt like SAO was finally living up to its potential and I sincerely hope that it does despite a weak 5th episode.

Kiritos mom for some reason have no emotions, this pissed me off more than anything. At least show her break down and cry instead of just go ahead and do the paperwork.

But made this such a bad episode is Yui, like always sigh. Your storytelling capacity must be horrible if you have to use an AI that somehow can hack into everything and give you information on anything to progress the story.
How can Rath security be so bad that Yui can just replace already existing profiles?

I could go on forever but it'll only be time-consuming.
On a positive note, we got a bit more info on Kayaba. FINALLY! took them a good 6 years to try and make his motives a bit more justifiable

Now don't get me wrong, the season was great up until this episode. I'm just hoping that we can dive back into Underworld again where the story and season excels!
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This season has been great and is shaping up to be the first great SAO series to date, but this episode was extremely weak. Every time the story strays outside of the underworld we end up in the weakest part of SAO, SAO. It's disappointing that they devoted an entire episode to exposition, and i truly hope that the rest of this season is handled better.
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-Riptide- said:


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Lmao man. 🤣👌🏻

Anyways, this was really good episode. Loved the atmosphere and focus on the plot from the outside world’s perspective of things. Also more Asuna is always good.
Nov 3, 2018 2:11 PM
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i can only find one word that can define this episode: boring
Nov 3, 2018 2:27 PM
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What a weak episode.

I felt like this season has been like a dream, it felt like SAO was finally living up to its potential and I sincerely hope that it does despite a weak 5th episode.

Kiritos mom for some reason have no emotions, this pissed me off more than anything. At least show her break down and cry instead of just go ahead and do the paperwork.

But made this such a bad episode is Yui, like always sigh. Your storytelling capacity must be horrible if you have to use an AI that somehow can hack into everything and give you information on anything to progress the story.
How can Rath security be so bad that Yui can just replace already existing profiles?

I could go on forever but it'll only be time-consuming.
On a positive note, we got a bit more info on Kayaba. FINALLY! took them a good 6 years to try and make his motives a bit more justifiable

Now don't get me wrong, the season was great up until this episode. I'm just hoping that we can dive back into Underworld again where the story and season excels!


imo, this EP was very great and important.
a much needed episode that was handled quite nicely.
Kirito's aunt did cried in novel offsceen but there was just so much to show in this EP, they could not really spend time for some crying scene, plus she is an adult and already had a lot of family member like her sister died and kirito was unconscious for 2 damn year lol
she can control herself to do the main work and paperwork etc first.

also, First of all, Yui is too OP, so OP that Kikouka dude himself show interest and asked kirito and asuna several time if he could have yui for a while, they reject him tho.
she is also keep on growing more and more op, as she is like a super human with access to the net, she can learn and memories everything with 1 search.
Kirito have lines about feeling scared from yui a few time in the novel.

but all of these Aside ! Yui actually can't hack into Rath system, she failed to do so later when she try in the novel. what she hacked in this EP to change the profile for Asuna, was hacking into some university database, which is a normal university with no military or secret relation. so it's not a hard to hack system.

she just changed Dr's asistance's picture to Asuna in that university before Dr accepted the request. so the data Rath got from that university was already a fake data.
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Probably a big infodump episode coming next week. Let's hope we won't die of boredom.



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Pedram said:
FireFistYK said:
What a weak episode.

I felt like this season has been like a dream, it felt like SAO was finally living up to its potential and I sincerely hope that it does despite a weak 5th episode.

Kiritos mom for some reason have no emotions, this pissed me off more than anything. At least show her break down and cry instead of just go ahead and do the paperwork.

But made this such a bad episode is Yui, like always sigh. Your storytelling capacity must be horrible if you have to use an AI that somehow can hack into everything and give you information on anything to progress the story.
How can Rath security be so bad that Yui can just replace already existing profiles?

I could go on forever but it'll only be time-consuming.
On a positive note, we got a bit more info on Kayaba. FINALLY! took them a good 6 years to try and make his motives a bit more justifiable

Now don't get me wrong, the season was great up until this episode. I'm just hoping that we can dive back into Underworld again where the story and season excels!


but all of these Aside ! Yui actually can't hack into Rath system, she failed to do so later when she try in the novel. what she hacked in this EP to change the profile for Asuna, was hacking into some university database, which is a normal university with no military or secret relation. so it's not a hard to hack system.

she just changed Dr's asistance's picture to Asuna in that university before Dr accepted the request. so the data Rath got from that university was already a fake data.


Thanks for clearing that up. I wanted to say that. She just hacked into the university database to update the photo of the assistance before they went to the ocean. They mentioned it.
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Pedram said:
FireFistYK said:
What a weak episode.

I felt like this season has been like a dream, it felt like SAO was finally living up to its potential and I sincerely hope that it does despite a weak 5th episode.

Kiritos mom for some reason have no emotions, this pissed me off more than anything. At least show her break down and cry instead of just go ahead and do the paperwork.

But made this such a bad episode is Yui, like always sigh. Your storytelling capacity must be horrible if you have to use an AI that somehow can hack into everything and give you information on anything to progress the story.
How can Rath security be so bad that Yui can just replace already existing profiles?

I could go on forever but it'll only be time-consuming.
On a positive note, we got a bit more info on Kayaba. FINALLY! took them a good 6 years to try and make his motives a bit more justifiable

Now don't get me wrong, the season was great up until this episode. I'm just hoping that we can dive back into Underworld again where the story and season excels!


imo, this EP was very great and important.
a much needed episode that was handled quite nicely.
Kirito's aunt did cried in novel offsceen but there was just so much to show in this EP, they could not really spend time for some crying scene, plus she is an adult and already had a lot of family member like her sister died and kirito was unconscious for 2 damn year lol
she can control herself to do the main work and paperwork etc first.

also, First of all, Yui is too OP, so OP that Kikouka dude himself show interest and asked kirito and asuna several time if he could have yui for a while, they reject him tho.
she is also keep on growing more and more op, as she is like a super human with access to the net, she can learn and memories everything with 1 search.
Kirito have lines about feeling scared from yui a few time in the novel.

but all of these Aside ! Yui actually can't hack into Rath system, she failed to do so later when she try in the novel. what she hacked in this EP to change the profile for Asuna, was hacking into some university database, which is a normal university with no military or secret relation. so it's not a hard to hack system.

she just changed Dr's asistance's picture to Asuna in that university before Dr accepted the request. so the data Rath got from that university was already a fake data.


Yea, but you see I'm watching the anime and criticizing that. So I don't care if she cried in the novel cause it was not portrayed in the adaptation. Things like this are what draws life into characters so I find them very important. Also, the fact that shes already lost family members just proves my point that she should be even more cautious and afraid because Kirito is all that she has left.

So we agree that shes OP right? End of the discussion then. In my opinion, she shouldn't first of all even exist because:

1. Her character arc wasn't good and marked as the downfall of the original SAO for me. If you enjoyed it, power to you!
2. After that shes just been used as this "cheat code" throughout every darn arc so that the story can progress, which is my biggest problem because that's laaaaaaaaaame.

I know that she indeed just changed the profile pic, but it still feels too easy. But she is Asunas "cheat" so I guess I shouldn't be complaining too much

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FireFistYK said:
Pedram said:


imo, this EP was very great and important.
a much needed episode that was handled quite nicely.
Kirito's aunt did cried in novel offsceen but there was just so much to show in this EP, they could not really spend time for some crying scene, plus she is an adult and already had a lot of family member like her sister died and kirito was unconscious for 2 damn year lol
she can control herself to do the main work and paperwork etc first.

also, First of all, Yui is too OP, so OP that Kikouka dude himself show interest and asked kirito and asuna several time if he could have yui for a while, they reject him tho.
she is also keep on growing more and more op, as she is like a super human with access to the net, she can learn and memories everything with 1 search.
Kirito have lines about feeling scared from yui a few time in the novel.

but all of these Aside ! Yui actually can't hack into Rath system, she failed to do so later when she try in the novel. what she hacked in this EP to change the profile for Asuna, was hacking into some university database, which is a normal university with no military or secret relation. so it's not a hard to hack system.

she just changed Dr's asistance's picture to Asuna in that university before Dr accepted the request. so the data Rath got from that university was already a fake data.


Yea, but you see I'm watching the anime and criticizing that. So I don't care if she cried in the novel cause it was not portrayed in the adaptation. Things like this are what draws life into characters so I find them very important. Also, the fact that shes already lost family members just proves my point that she should be even more cautious and afraid because Kirito is all that she has left.

So we agree that shes OP right? End of the discussion then. In my opinion, she shouldn't first of all even exist because:

1. Her character arc wasn't good and marked as the downfall of the original SAO for me. If you enjoyed it, power to you!
2. After that shes just been used as this "cheat code" throughout every darn arc so that the story can progress, which is my biggest problem because that's laaaaaaaaaame.



I be honest with you, maybe it's coz I read the novel even before watching the anime in 2012.
but Yui was never a hated character for me.
plus i were able to receive some huge hint and foreshadowing throughout the story about Yui, which lead me to believe she will be much more than she is in the final arc of SAO after Alicization.
it seems author been building her up since long ago.

her existence is a completely unique existence, a once in a life-time chance of creating the strongest Top-down AI.
I'm a programmer myself, so I read a lot about AIs online and even read about Bottom-up and Top-down AIs in university.
basically a Top-down AI can grow the more data it can receive, but you can't just feed data or show it a movie for it to learn about emotion and become more human. it need to observe human interaction and monitor emotions for becoming more human. and the amount of data need to be HUGE, the bigger the closer she can be to humans.

Yui had the chance of monitoring and learning from 10000 human in a Death game which had humans in a intense emotional mood for 2 whole years. there is no way you can have so many human waste their time in a machine and let another A.I monitor them for such a long time to create another AI like yui.

We had this in the Movie too if u remember ! that guy wanted to take the memories of everyone in Aincrad to create a AI thats like a real copy of his daughter. the more memories he had the more human like she could be.
but Yui already have ALL those memories !

so in a way, she is even more Scary than the completely human like Bottom-up AI we see in this Alicization Arc.
She is OP, but she got a reason to be OP.
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Hahaha high school kids rule am i right guys

Let me just use my Virtual AI Fairy child to bypass government security and fly over to a secret project in the middle of the ocean

All in the power of love 😎


Asuna is already in college tho

MonkeyDMike said:
That was probably my least favourite episode. The harem is just boring to watch for me even if it is involved with important stuff. At least I liked the connection with Ordinal Scale and we got to see the place where everything takes place along with part of the crew that is involved in the whole STL project. Now I'm intrigued to see what exactly this thing does that can be useful for medical use.


There's no harem. lol Only Asuna have something to him, the others got shafted basically still in S1 (and S2 for Sinon)

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Good episode.

It was pretty interesting to see what happened in the real world after the events of episode 1.

It's real nice to see how everyone tried to figure out what happened and I liked that Asuna is finally getting some time to shine. She was kinda neglected as a lead heroine into sort of a bystander from the second half of S1, Ordinal Scale improved that a bit and it's nice to see that she has a much stronger role to play here.

I liked the scene where Yui told Asuna that it was her turn to find Kirito now.
I'm pretty none of us viewers would've been fooled by that Asuna disguise. Though I'm surprised how quickly they managed to get in considering the Doctor was supposed to be in California but hey not too big of a deal.

We also got some decent insight into what's going on behind the scenes so yeah well done. xD
Looking forward to next week to learn more about Project Alicization.


Well, that's not quite true. While Asuna was a damsel in Fairy Dance, she had participation in Phantom Bullet and then she was the main protagonist of Mother Rosario, being also one of the protagonists for Ordinal Scale like you said.
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Pedram said:

I be honest with you, maybe it's coz I read the novel even before watching the anime in 2012.
but Yui was never a hated character for me.
plus i were able to receive some huge hint and foreshadowing throughout the story about Yui, which lead me to believe she will be much more than she is in the final arc of SAO after Alicization.
it seems author been building her up since long ago.

her existence is a completely unique existence, a once in a life-time chance of creating the strongest Top-down AI.
I'm a programmer myself, so I read a lot about AIs online and even read about Bottom-up and Top-down AIs in university.
basically a Top-down AI can grow the more data it can receive, but you can't just feed data or show it a movie for it to learn about emotion and become more human. it need to observe human interaction and monitor emotions for becoming more human. and the amount of data need to be HUGE, the bigger the closer she can be to humans.

Yui had the chance of monitoring and learning from 10000 human in a Death game which had humans in a intense emotional mood for 2 whole years. there is no way you can have so many human waste their time in a machine and let another A.I monitor them for such a long time to create another AI like yui.

We had this in the Movie too if u remember ! that guy wanted to take the memories of everyone in Aincrad to create a AI thats like a real copy of his daughter. the more memories he had the more human like she could be.
but Yui already have ALL those memories !

so in a way, she is even more Scary than the completely human like Bottom-up AI we see in this Alicization Arc.
She is OP, but she got a reason to be OP.


Good explanation of AI and all, kinda hard to say anything after that hahaha
I get your point, but ultimately she still feels like a cheat like character which is used to progress the story, that's my problem with her. Like you said shes got a reason to be OP, and if I don't like that reason I can't like her as a character.

I'm also studying programming and software so I have a good insight into how things work and the technology they're using in case you think that my lack of info in that department is what's keeping me from enjoying Yui as a character
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I loved this episode! Rinko helping Asuna was great and being able to pass through all that security was Yui I’m sure. When they got to the lab it was cool to see the Underworld on screen. Now Asuna can probably see his progress.
Nov 3, 2018 3:19 PM
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FireFistYK said:
Pedram said:

I be honest with you, maybe it's coz I read the novel even before watching the anime in 2012.
but Yui was never a hated character for me.
plus i were able to receive some huge hint and foreshadowing throughout the story about Yui, which lead me to believe she will be much more than she is in the final arc of SAO after Alicization.
it seems author been building her up since long ago.

her existence is a completely unique existence, a once in a life-time chance of creating the strongest Top-down AI.
I'm a programmer myself, so I read a lot about AIs online and even read about Bottom-up and Top-down AIs in university.
basically a Top-down AI can grow the more data it can receive, but you can't just feed data or show it a movie for it to learn about emotion and become more human. it need to observe human interaction and monitor emotions for becoming more human. and the amount of data need to be HUGE, the bigger the closer she can be to humans.

Yui had the chance of monitoring and learning from 10000 human in a Death game which had humans in a intense emotional mood for 2 whole years. there is no way you can have so many human waste their time in a machine and let another A.I monitor them for such a long time to create another AI like yui.

We had this in the Movie too if u remember ! that guy wanted to take the memories of everyone in Aincrad to create a AI thats like a real copy of his daughter. the more memories he had the more human like she could be.
but Yui already have ALL those memories !

so in a way, she is even more Scary than the completely human like Bottom-up AI we see in this Alicization Arc.
She is OP, but she got a reason to be OP.


Good explanation of AI and all, kinda hard to say anything after that hahaha
I get your point, but ultimately she still feels like a cheat like character which is used to progress the story, that's my problem with her. Like you said shes got a reason to be OP, and if I don't like that reason I can't like her as a character.

I'm also studying programming and software so I have a good insight into how things work and the technology they're using in case you think that my lack of info in that department is what's keeping me from enjoying Yui as a character


well yeh, I can't also argue with you about her being used so far mostly as a cheat lol
even in novel which explained a bit more and she is a bit more useful and have a bigger role sometimes, she is mostly focused as the cute kid of Kirito and Asuna and a strong hacker that can help them when they hit a hard spot lol

while I myself don't get bothered by this that much, i can totally understand why you can not like this :D
Nov 3, 2018 3:32 PM

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Really nice episode. I echo what others are saying, it’s really great to see Asuna in an active role and seeing her take the initiative.The scene with Yui telling her that it’s her turn to save Kirito was a nice touch. Didn’t expect that scene with Rinko and Kayaba... so they were in THAT kind of relationship. He certainly had some layers.

Can’t wait to hear more about the project next episode!
Nov 3, 2018 4:15 PM

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I wasn't expecting Asuna to reveal her identity so soon...I'm concerned how this is gonna turn out, given the crazy intense security on that base. It wouldn't take much time at all for security to apprehend Asuna.
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