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| That was basically Geass's ending if Geass's ending was actually good. Also, I don't understand the time-jumping complaints. Most of you guys wouldn't say the same complaints for Baccano. |
FlawfinderJun 17, 2016 4:32 PM
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| that was a satisfying ending (sort of) though mostly sad. So a majority of super humans left there world in favor of the new one and super humans are now seen as nothing more than myth's or legends (even though there are still a few super humans who stayed behind). So apparently there's going to be an alien invasion so does that mean a possible season 3 or a movie? it's a shame to what happened to a lot of the super humans and it felt like they didn't really find a solution. I'm actually glad that michiko is pretty much profiting from the fame (even though that's not the word I want to use) of super humans while at the same time making sure that no one forget's about them (even though it seems that a majority of the population has forgotten about them). I hope jiro returns someday and that this series get's a sequel/continuation because I truly enjoy watching this. |
Partyu said: Going to have to go through a bunch of forum posts to figure out all the historical/cultural connections in this show. Possibly rewatching both cours soon? Even if I don't (yet) fully comprehend everything that went on these past 24 episodes, Concrete Revolutio was the single most ambitious show I have ever seen, and the fact of the matter is that I absolutely adore it. I've been looking forward (and dreading) this finale for weeks, and finally watching it after months of sticking with this beast of a show has left me feeling both empty and wholeheartedly content. There's a sequel hook at the end of the episode, and while I'm definitely up for more ConRevo, it's absolutely fine the way it is. 10/10. I can't give it anything less. (Oh, and this show is full of great screenshots with tons of food for thought, but the funniest one I managed to take was in this episode: ) You could check this out then ;) |
| Not a bad way to end it, felt abrupt as fuck tho. 2/10 |
| This feel unsatisfying, was hoping for an Emi Jiro happy ending. They could have at least shown the other world....whatever I'm probably not even going to remember this by next week. |
| never really expected a happy ending with the way things were going despite it feeling a bit rushed i think it was a decent ending ,some hints of a chance of a movie maybe? . torn between a 7 and a 8 ConcreteRevo had some interesting moments while if you try to dig deeper in comprehending all of it there's a lot of it you can take in |
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| what an ending....speechless |
| This pretty much had everything. I'd say I'm satisfied overall, even if it lost steam after the first 4-5 episodes built a lot of hype. Definitely could have used another episode, but it was well executed nonetheless. Kikko <3 |
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| Those last two episodes were a fucking wild ride. Satomi, who is like the Hitler for non-humans, creates a propaganda movie that gets everyone to hate superhumans, youkai, and Jiro's group. Turns out it was all true despite being seen as propaganda. This movie 1: basically creates uniform hatred for superhumans, who were already plenty hated, and 2: creates uniform hatred for Jiro by superhumans most of whom idolized Rainbow Knight. On top of this, Satomi was working with Master Ultima (who was basically also Hitler) to create the island device which was using Youkai and Beasts as fuel by burning them in bio-destroyer till like 99% death, then letting regenerate and killing them again; creating a pseudo-nuclear energy through molecular division and whatnot. Jiro, being shunned by most everybody, and then seeing what humans have done to superhumans and youkai with this new device, joins up with Emi. He then goes to war basically because 1: what humans did to the youkai and superhumans is super fucked up and he's pissed about it, and 2: he's essentially pulling a Code Geass on the superhumans. Getting them all to hate him and unite to fight him like they did in the glory days puts superhumans back in favorable light. When all is said and done, some of the superhumans see the fucked up stuff that was going to happen and the youkai already know. Satomi squares off against Jiro, and we learn he has similar powers to him; though Satomi's through a meteor, and Jiro through the A-bomb. Satomi essentially wins, getting the bio destroyer into Jiro's arm. His body gets destroyed and he basically becomes corporeal as the invisible beast and vanishes. Satomi's body is destroyed as he becomes they key to opening the gate to the other world. The parallel world is essentially a fictional version of our world, where instead of the A-bomb dropping and super humans existing, everyone is just a human, and humanity discovered nuclear energy and (allegedly) the world is at peace because they all now have unlimited free energy and aren't fighting over energy resources. So Emi, Ullr, as well as most of the Youkai and Superhumans, leave on the Ultima device through the portal to the other world. Meanwhile Jaguar who has flip-flopped a hundred times ended as a good guy / time criminal and created a sort of causality that got him teleported back to his time. This leaves Kikko, Furrouta, and a small handful of superhumans left. The devila siblings are in outer space. Judas was still around and repairing Earth-chan. Jiro's dad somehow hasn't aged a bit, and is working on repairing Raito and Megasshin. And there are probably small groups of others who went unmentioned, but I think most of the superhumans, especially the notable ones from both cours, crossed the gate. Otonashi became a TV actor and Michiko is running a non-corrupt agency now. And we get teased a bit at the end with Furrouta mentioning the impending alien attack, and the shadow of Jiro's beast...now Jiro himself. I do feel kind of bad for Emi at the end. For pretty much all of the first cour, and most of this cour, I considered her the villain. She was basically just trying to make Jiro her possession and didn't care about anything else. Most of her time at the Bureau she didn't seem to care one way or the other about the mission because it wasn't about Jiro. She didn't take Jiro being defiant seriously because she just considered him a kid that would eventually be forced to come back to her one day. But at the end, you see that her and Jiro did in fact care for each other, and that he was ok with the promise they made to each other. He also didn't take her shit either, because he already had said in the first cour that he wasn't just going to listen to everything she said. She's already permanently missing and eye for giving Youkai the ability to see things, and then Jiro ends up apologizing for breaking all of his promises. His promise to love her forever, which he sort of broke with Kikko, his promise to never see Kikko again, and then his last promise to travel to the other world with her. It basically left her with nothing as she travelled to the other world, and you could kind of feel it. You had the youkai and stuff standing there who were all waiting for freedom, and all of the superhumans who were going to get away from politics and to find peace. But then you have Emi just standing there. She didn't look accomplished or happy. She was irritated when Ullr latched onto her. She didn't look at peace or relieved to be leading everyone to the other side. She just looked...incredibly empty. Although the freeing of everyone is a major accomplishment, the only part of that plan that really mattered was Jiro, and she couldn't get that. It was kind of the same way for Kikko and Furrouta too. When they run into each other in the street. They're both relatively melancholy in this point in time, and they're both happy to see each other, but it's a bittersweet smile. It's obviously not the same without Jiro there. Though Furrouta being sad about only a few kids seeing him anymore, but the one kid from the first cour seeing him after he was grownup was a nice touch. I like how Kikko reinforced the idea of Jiro being gone, but his presence still being around, and that he'd show up when someone needed him one day. I was a little bit disappointed with the middle of this second cour. It started out with a bang; Jiro getting his locks replaced with akita and the fumers, the chick from the band hearing about Rainbow Knight and becoming Platinum Knight. All of the fighting and stuff in the beginning and Raito killing that dude and becoming his own person. But a lot of the shit in the middle fizzled and was basically "moral argument of the week involving Jiro vs the Bureau". It was just a weekly dose of some superhuman in trouble and 2 parties took different moral approaches on how to handle it. And it didn't really pick up again until the whole Claude helmet incident. Which isn't good when it only had 11 episodes. BUT, the beginning and the end were extremely awesome and made up for some of the lackluster middle content. This is easily a 9/10 for me. Was exceptionally well done for an anime original, which is a fucking unicorn rarity nowadays. ajalcabasa said: I wouldn't mind an OVA or movie having them fight aliens. And an appearance of Jiro as Godzilla. I would absolutely be ok with that. I don't think it would happen though. Japan wasn't too thrilled with a show that kind of shit on their country's history every week, so it didn't get the greatest reception. Plus I think they ended it in a way to wrap up the story. That last couple seconds was just a light teaser. I think Bones is happy where they stopped. That being said, a movie or any kind of continuation would be cool. The only drawback is the lack of characters now. Emi, and 97% of the youkai and superhumans are in the other world now. Only Kikko, Furrouta, Judas, Daitetsu (with no mech) and a damaged Earth-chan, Raito and Megasshin are confirmed to still be left. So any kind of movie or follow-up would be less diverse in cast, with probably no chance of Emi or anyone from the gate reappearing, and I'm sure Jiro's time in said movie would be very brief, probably like 10 minutes of screen time to save the day and then he leaves. It's also not unrealistic that a third season could be done. It's not like wars and politics stopped after WWII. But again, lack of a cast to work with. It's alright though, the series is fine as is. One of these days it'll become an underrated classic. |
| It never quite managed to get to the levels I hoped it would, but it was still quite good, a quality consistent with the first cour. Really could have used some more episodes to even everything out. Despite the build up throughout the entire series run everything still felt quite abrupt at the end there. |
ReaperCreeperJun 18, 2016 12:55 AM
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| I knew it! Jiro hoped to achieve something by going wild. Going wild like that wasn't his justice. He wanted to at least help out someone and make up for his screw up. He wanted to make Kikko the heroine and have her defeat the menace, Jiro, so that she would be a true superhuman of justice in everyone's eyes. He couldn't become the superhuman of justice he so wanted to be, so he wanted Kikko to become that superhuman because she had potential. Kikko obviously didn't like that idea, neither did Emi. Jaguar was pretty cool there. He had all those robots brought back in time but since they weren't from this time, they all vanished. The timing was such that they vanished when Satomi came face to face with Jiro. Jaguar wasn't completely on Satomi's side and he supported Jiro throughout. Satomi turned out to be the other atomic bomb the US dropped on Japan. Instead of having his powers used for experiments on beasts and stuff like Jiro, he used his powers for himself. His problem is that superhumans shouldn't even exist in the first place. To think that when anyone calls for help a superhuman will show up is stupid and childish. Reality isn't like that at all. And Satomi wants things to go back to reality where superhumans won't come when a kid calls out for help. Jiro believes that this isn't just a child's dream – it's kinda like what the world needs. It's like when the world doesn't get justice normally, people look for abnormal ways for justice, that is they look for superhumans. Satomi thinks that's stupid while Jiro disagrees. The end of their fight is a victory for justice as the evil, Satomi, is defeated. The aftermath shows superhumans kinda like in hiding as they are no longer needed after their victory. People don't know about the existence of superhumans anymore and don't need them anymore and they've turned into fictional characters only seen in movies and mangas. This was quite the show. The themes about justice and stuff were greatly done. It had somewhat fillerish episodes in the middle where they only focused on themes and not the main story at hand. Had those episodes been lesser in number there would have been more time for a much better finale. |
| Thought it was a nice finale. I liked the first season more though. |
| This is so under-rated, but so good. Loved the music and the art. The character designs were so classic to me (which is what happen when your old, lol), it felt nostalgic and new at the same time. The ending made sense to me, since super-humans and beasts were like an aberration, they went back to the being dreams and stories. Society tends to re-write or completely forget history so that made sense to me. Loved Jiro, that conflicted emo fool, but as a being formed from so much potential energy I can't see him dissipating any time soon. |
| Hmm. I can't really say I liked that end. On top of that there are quite a few open strings in this story. I think the thing I disliked the most was the fact that the bureau never got back together after the end of the first season. Really was hoping for that. But it seems this wasn't that kind of story. All in all it was fine though. I liked the art since the first season and that didn't change. The story was more or less interesting even though I thought this whole "Jiro is evil"-thing was kinda stupid(and that thing with the meteor babies was kinda weird, too). But I can't deny that I enjoyed the first season a whole lot more. |
| That was wild. So the huge Civil War I expected was cut short pretty quick. It wasn't meant to be much of a focus but still. So basically Jiro cared enough for Kikko and loathed himself enough to attempt to get himself killed. Emi vs Kikko is something I saw coming from a mile and Emi would have lost if Jiro didn't interfere. This pleases my eyes since ultimately I always found Kikko to be the better of the two and Emi doing a handful of awful things to her. The rest of the superhumans team up and have revelations and conclusions of their own. Jaguar basically erases himself and his creations to disarm Satomi and unexpectedly so the guy is pretty darn powerful himself. He always struck me as a villain but his motivations were never clear until now, where he shows his total cynicism. A real foil for Jiro who is all about the ideal of justice, and considering their similarities a more than adequate "evil" for Jiro to finally face and beat. He loses his body but he is still there and likely gonna "revive" whenever the aliens are gonna come. Sad that Kikko was left "alone" so to speak, but she and others will manage, specially those that are being repaired. Kinda weird that people kinda forgot about superhumans and purely see them as an idea of justice rather than something that existed TWO years ago. Oh well. |
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| As a whole, I give ConRev an 8. It got an interesting concept n story telling. For 2nd cour alone I give it 7. It's not as good as season 1. Too many loose episodes and the execution of season 1 is just better. Season 1 got episodes that focus on significant characters, n foreshadow interesting future timeline. It got Kaiju episodes, with conspiracy of creating more Kaiju to promote superhumans, and we got to see how people view the existence of Kaiju. Earth-chan episode really question the true justice since she grants all kinds of wishes, and the chemistry with Judas in that episode was great. Immortal family episode was good too, the scene where they walk into the bio destroyer was awesome. Claude's arc really question justice n superhuman. In short, almost all episode of season 2 can't top episodes of season 1. Season 2's loose (stand alone) episodes felt bland and it feels like a newcharacter appears and the jiro faction n bureau get into the mess n spouting nonsense justice. Justice talk in season 1 was executed better imo. Good points in season 2 can only be found in first 2 episodes and few last episodes. |
JJHRTDJun 20, 2016 5:27 AM
| Last episode, huh - a pretty satisfying ending. Nothing too dramatic yet not lame either. Gotta say that 51st of Shinka Era ended up being quite minimal, even though there we some things that weren't shown. I keep getting bothered by the question how and when did Emi lose her eye lol First season was better. This second wasn't bad, but it felt lacking compared to the first one. Overall the show was pretty good, it was interesting to watch. The dialogue was better in the first season imo. Visuals and music throughout the series were to my liking though! Very good. |
| hmmm, I'm kinda torn right now. I liked Jiro's end, I like the series concept and the characters. But the story telling here is just too crappy. This series isn't hard to follow because it's complex or because of the time jumps. The story telling is confusing, they don't give a lot of time for the plots to develop and so on. I mean, the fact that Satomi is a super human is revealed right in the last episode JUST when you need the main villain to trade punches with Jiro. What about the asspull of all super humans regenerating after the bio destroyer? Not to mention some obvious plot holes: 1 - If Jiro would loose his form without the fumers, how the hell did he get a form before he fused with the fumers? 2 - How can even super humans that don't have regenaration powers regenerate after the bio destroyer? If they can regenerate after being reduced to bits, how did the beasts, who had Jiro's blood die? And how did other super humans die? 3 - Kikko is one candidate as queen of makai. Why is she not considered a youkai? Also, her origin gets totally forgotten and no consequences happen from her evil side. And no makai beings show up, which is strange. 4 - Jaguar showing up again after becoming a criminal wasn't elaborated 5 - What the hell was with that plan of the youkais? What guarantees they have that the other world will welcome them? Why not stay and fight or even pull a Devila? Or stayn in Devila's underground? Or go to Makai? Just deliberately jumping into another world that they don't know nothing about is absurd. 6 - Psy kicker keeps showing up, but never really gets enough screen time for us to understand what the hell he's doing and to flesh him out. 7 - Why would the ski jump team who was helped by a god/youkai join the youkai hunt? 8 - I understand Teito's propaganda could make people not trust Jirou, but why suddenly other super humans became turstworthy. And why many of the non monster ones would be ok with using youkai as batteries just because they want to stop Jiro? 9 - Why was it ok for the human looking ones to remain and not the youkai? Just because they can hide? But Emi and Koma can too. And youkai had spent centuries living among humans... Well, that's what I can quickly remember. I like CR, but the show could really have been far greater with better storyboarding and directing. And that's what makes my feelings split. I like it and the ideas are good, but the execution is very poor. |
| Maybe need to re-watch this in its entirety but the story telling wasn't for me. Not that I need a linear storyline to enjoy a show but this just seem like a crappy job. The concepts and ideas it brought up where interesting enough for me to keep watching but overall I give it a 6/10. |
| Heck, just like the previous season, Somehow I can't understand what's going on. Well, I guess I'll just re-watch this when I got free time. If I will ever get one Anyway, I'll rate this anime a 6 (or up to 8?) score overall. |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
| As convoluted and complicated as this series was, it was enjoyable nonetheless. It's about justice!! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Good end! I hope Jiro and the other superhumans come back again someday. 7/10. Good show. |
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m4rc0 said: hmmm, I'm kinda torn right now. I liked Jiro's end, I like the series concept and the characters. But the story telling here is just too crappy. This series isn't hard to follow because it's complex or because of the time jumps. The story telling is confusing, they don't give a lot of time for the plots to develop and so on. I mean, the fact that Satomi is a super human is revealed right in the last episode JUST when you need the main villain to trade punches with Jiro. What about the asspull of all super humans regenerating after the bio destroyer? Not to mention some obvious plot holes: 1 - If Jiro would loose his form without the fumers, how the hell did he get a form before he fused with the fumers? 2 - How can even super humans that don't have regenaration powers regenerate after the bio destroyer? If they can regenerate after being reduced to bits, how did the beasts, who had Jiro's blood die? And how did other super humans die? 3 - Kikko is one candidate as queen of makai. Why is she not considered a youkai? Also, her origin gets totally forgotten and no consequences happen from her evil side. And no makai beings show up, which is strange. 4 - Jaguar showing up again after becoming a criminal wasn't elaborated 5 - What the hell was with that plan of the youkais? What guarantees they have that the other world will welcome them? Why not stay and fight or even pull a Devila? Or stayn in Devila's underground? Or go to Makai? Just deliberately jumping into another world that they don't know nothing about is absurd. 6 - Psy kicker keeps showing up, but never really gets enough screen time for us to understand what the hell he's doing and to flesh him out. 7 - Why would the ski jump team who was helped by a god/youkai join the youkai hunt? 8 - I understand Teito's propaganda could make people not trust Jirou, but why suddenly other super humans became turstworthy. And why many of the non monster ones would be ok with using youkai as batteries just because they want to stop Jiro? 9 - Why was it ok for the human looking ones to remain and not the youkai? Just because they can hide? But Emi and Koma can too. And youkai had spent centuries living among humans... Well, that's what I can quickly remember. I like CR, but the show could really have been far greater with better storyboarding and directing. And that's what makes my feelings split. I like it and the ideas are good, but the execution is very poor. I don't really remember, but the destroyer is for 'youkai' type superhuman. youkai can keep existing so it can become infinite source energy. 1. Emi maintained his body, it's showed multiple times on first season. Emi was really sure he will come back to her if one day his power get berserk. 2. Youkai is different from living beings. They're not living beings. The blood need to be injected continuously for the beast to regenerate, remember that giant girl? Other superhumans die normally, remember that giant girl killed many superhumans? 3. I think it was explained in first season, I don't really remember 4. I don't understand what you meant 5. They need to escape because they're already hated in the current world. Either become energy source or escape 6. no comment 7. Because everyone else does.. 8. Because they have one common enemy, people will unite if there's one common enemy. That's the movie propaganda for. 9. Read above answers, youkai and beasts are threated as enemies The thing I don't like about this anime is the episode keeps jumping front and back too much. Makes me need to remember a lot of things. It would be better if it's like durarara. |
LeonLanford said: m4rc0 said: hmmm, I'm kinda torn right now. I liked Jiro's end, I like the series concept and the characters. But the story telling here is just too crappy. This series isn't hard to follow because it's complex or because of the time jumps. The story telling is confusing, they don't give a lot of time for the plots to develop and so on. I mean, the fact that Satomi is a super human is revealed right in the last episode JUST when you need the main villain to trade punches with Jiro. What about the asspull of all super humans regenerating after the bio destroyer? Not to mention some obvious plot holes: 1 - If Jiro would loose his form without the fumers, how the hell did he get a form before he fused with the fumers? 2 - How can even super humans that don't have regenaration powers regenerate after the bio destroyer? If they can regenerate after being reduced to bits, how did the beasts, who had Jiro's blood die? And how did other super humans die? 3 - Kikko is one candidate as queen of makai. Why is she not considered a youkai? Also, her origin gets totally forgotten and no consequences happen from her evil side. And no makai beings show up, which is strange. 4 - Jaguar showing up again after becoming a criminal wasn't elaborated 5 - What the hell was with that plan of the youkais? What guarantees they have that the other world will welcome them? Why not stay and fight or even pull a Devila? Or stayn in Devila's underground? Or go to Makai? Just deliberately jumping into another world that they don't know nothing about is absurd. 6 - Psy kicker keeps showing up, but never really gets enough screen time for us to understand what the hell he's doing and to flesh him out. 7 - Why would the ski jump team who was helped by a god/youkai join the youkai hunt? 8 - I understand Teito's propaganda could make people not trust Jirou, but why suddenly other super humans became turstworthy. And why many of the non monster ones would be ok with using youkai as batteries just because they want to stop Jiro? 9 - Why was it ok for the human looking ones to remain and not the youkai? Just because they can hide? But Emi and Koma can too. And youkai had spent centuries living among humans... Well, that's what I can quickly remember. I like CR, but the show could really have been far greater with better storyboarding and directing. And that's what makes my feelings split. I like it and the ideas are good, but the execution is very poor. I don't really remember, but the destroyer is for 'youkai' type superhuman. youkai can keep existing so it can become infinite source energy. 1. Emi maintained his body, it's showed multiple times on first season. Emi was really sure he will come back to her if one day his power get berserk. 2. Youkai is different from living beings. They're not living beings. The blood need to be injected continuously for the beast to regenerate, remember that giant girl? Other superhumans die normally, remember that giant girl killed many superhumans? 3. I think it was explained in first season, I don't really remember 4. I don't understand what you meant 5. They need to escape because they're already hated in the current world. Either become energy source or escape 6. no comment 7. Because everyone else does.. 8. Because they have one common enemy, people will unite if there's one common enemy. That's the movie propaganda for. 9. Read above answers, youkai and beasts are threated as enemies The thing I don't like about this anime is the episode keeps jumping front and back too much. Makes me need to remember a lot of things. It would be better if it's like durarara. 1- Emi wasn't there when he was born. How the hell, di he become the baby in the 1st place? 2 - Sorry but that wasn't elaborated before in the series at all. If you're correct, it's just a last minute ass pull. The imortal family survived because they're immortal and always regenerate, but normal youkai didn't show that until that point. AND the show didn't specify youkai, meaning other superhuman could be used as batteries, like the Teito guy was in the end, or Jirou, who certainly were not youkai. 3 - It wasn't. It was said she was from makai and... that's it. All that plot went ignored in the 2nd season 4 - Jaguar was back at the end as a time criminal. 5 - What guarantees that they won't be hated as much in the new world? Why not stay and fight until peace is found or go to space like Devila? Makes no sense. 7 - Seriously? Sorry, for me that's a big problem. They are spostsmen, not fighters in the 1st place. If there was any reason it should've been shown or built up before. 8 - Yeah, because that's what happens in the real world. EVERYBODY believes in propaganda and goes in a killing spree. Not saying it doesn't happen as we have terrorists and we had nazism and communism to show us big groups of people can do that. My problem is that EVERYBODY, including the outcasts was there. 9 - Not really. THey were hiding because they were also thought of as enemies. Also, Fuurouta and Kiiko aren't humans. I don't like to do the writer's job and fill the holes myself. Maybe you're interpreting things the way the show intended, but they didn't make stuff clear, so it's inconsistent. This isn't a series like Mononoke where things are intentionally left open to interpretation. It's just a sign of the problems in story telling I mentioned. |
m4rc0 said: LeonLanford said: I don't really remember, but the destroyer is for 'youkai' type superhuman. youkai can keep existing so it can become infinite source energy. 1. Emi maintained his body, it's showed multiple times on first season. Emi was really sure he will come back to her if one day his power get berserk. 2. Youkai is different from living beings. They're not living beings. The blood need to be injected continuously for the beast to regenerate, remember that giant girl? Other superhumans die normally, remember that giant girl killed many superhumans? 3. I think it was explained in first season, I don't really remember 4. I don't understand what you meant 5. They need to escape because they're already hated in the current world. Either become energy source or escape 6. no comment 7. Because everyone else does.. 8. Because they have one common enemy, people will unite if there's one common enemy. That's the movie propaganda for. 9. Read above answers, youkai and beasts are threated as enemies The thing I don't like about this anime is the episode keeps jumping front and back too much. Makes me need to remember a lot of things. It would be better if it's like durarara. 1- Emi wasn't there when he was born. How the hell, di he become the baby in the 1st place? 2 - Sorry but that wasn't elaborated before in the series at all. If you're correct, it's just a last minute ass pull. The imortal family survived because they're immortal and always regenerate, but normal youkai didn't show that until that point. AND the show didn't specify youkai, meaning other superhuman could be used as batteries, like the Teito guy was in the end, or Jirou, who certainly were not youkai. 3 - It wasn't. It was said she was from makai and... that's it. All that plot went ignored in the 2nd season 4 - Jaguar was back at the end as a time criminal. 5 - What guarantees that they won't be hated as much in the new world? Why not stay and fight until peace is found or go to space like Devila? Makes no sense. 7 - Seriously? Sorry, for me that's a big problem. They are spostsmen, not fighters in the 1st place. If there was any reason it should've been shown or built up before. 8 - Yeah, because that's what happens in the real world. EVERYBODY believes in propaganda and goes in a killing spree. Not saying it doesn't happen as we have terrorists and we had nazism and communism to show us big groups of people can do that. My problem is that EVERYBODY, including the outcasts was there. 9 - Not really. THey were hiding because they were also thought of as enemies. Also, Fuurouta and Kiiko aren't humans. I don't like to do the writer's job and fill the holes myself. Maybe you're interpreting things the way the show intended, but they didn't make stuff clear, so it's inconsistent. This isn't a series like Mononoke where things are intentionally left open to interpretation. It's just a sign of the problems in story telling I mentioned. 1. He's the manifestation of the rocket. If he doesn't use his power, he'll be okay 2. That's what I remember. That's also the reason why only the youkai and beast are targeted. 3. I don't really remember but vaguely I can remember that little red thing explained about that.. 4. He just went back to his era? So? 5. Better than nothing, and there'll be no end to this discussion 7. #5 8. #5 9. Fuurouta can only be seen by certain people and Kiiko just look like human. Different from other youkais. For me I don't see any noticeable problem about the story. Maybe because I marathoned each seasons. |
| @leonlanford 1 - That wasn't told in the anime at all. It was: killed the fumers and the seal was broken before the fumers, so he can't maintain his form. But he did maintain his form when he appeared. He's not the manifestation of the rocket, his power comes from the possibiity of the alternate outcome/universe. 2 - 12:00 of the last episode. Teito guy says that his plans is to get rid of all superhuman AND that all can be used as fuel with the bio destroyer. 3 - No he did explain that she was a queen candidate for Makai queen that after she lost her evil powers because of Emi she was aging like a human. He didn't explain how she was different form a youkai and the whole plot about her being a queen candidate is just tossed aside, like she herself stops being evolved as a character in S2 4 - Yes, but the show clearly shows another version of him back in the present at the epilogue. 5 - Complete uncertainty? As it's said, the better the devil you know than the devil you don't. And also, after Devila had the space alternative figured out... Why can't the perpetual energy machine take them to space, for instance? Maybe you didn't mind, but I did. 7 and 8 - You're free to like or ignore what's being done. I think it was poorly written. 9 - I drop this one because of the conversation in 2. The human looking ones weren't wanted as well. They just could hide and all their deeds are done in the shadows again, inspired by Jirou's words. |
| If only the ending hadn't been so rushed... 8/10 |
Rei366 said: @Tevens One might think the outer-space attack could refer to the new "threats" who came after the Cold War? No I would think as the timeline progressed on to the late 1970's and early 1980's, the show is mirroring the popularity of space operas in comics and anime at the time (Star Wars, Space Battleship Yamato, Macross, Dark Phoenix Saga in X-men) |
| @wmandersonjr Right, I had totally forgotten the shift toward this genre. Thank you. |
Rei_IIIAug 12, 2017 9:15 AM
| those poor girls, either emy or kikko didn't get enough love from Jiro. but if I have to choose, I ship on jiro x emy more than jiro x kikko. |
m4rc0 said: @leonlanford 1 - That wasn't told in the anime at all. It was: killed the fumers and the seal was broken before the fumers, so he can't maintain his form. But he did maintain his form when he appeared. He's not the manifestation of the rocket, his power comes from the possibiity of the alternate outcome/universe. It was implied the previous episodes. Like the previous guy said, Emi is there to seal his power, but because he wanted to stay in this world instead of leaving it like Emi. There's no way to control his power. A rocket is not a good representation of him. He gets his power from the energy of an atomic bomb or nuclear fission. (Especially since the 3 tubes in his arm look like fission rods back in season 1) Just like how Satomi was born from the energy of a meteorite falling. When Jirou was born he didn't need Emi because the "nuclear fission" did not start yet. Once his power awakens, he needs Emi to suppress it as shown in the flashback with the invisible beast. Emi's powers was needed to maintain the seals, seals(tubes) that we see fall out when the fumers combine with him |
I believe Jiro and the others actually and will come back in the future. I mean look at the last scene of the ed in this episode. The large invasion they are talking about at the end and Jiro's new outfit. Well i wanted to believe everyone will come back even if the last scene doesn't mean anything. "Believing" is also very befitting in this anime:) |
| A mess this show is, by the end every character apart from Earth-Chan and Raito were complete tools within a convoluted plot which saw the main character go Hero/Villain/Hero/Villain/Hero/Villain at least 20 times in the last episode alone, such a shame as I thought the first season was very good but this is just 'meh' for a lot of reasons. 5/10, what a shame. |
| lol at the Star Wars reference. Oh, look. It's 009 in the manga. 53rd? Takahara. Dat big ass hole. Give Emi a eyepatch please. Oh snap. Takahara is on Jiro's side. Nice. Female student oppai. Ullr coming out from the oppai. lol at Ullr mentioning the princess carry. Dat eye. Satomi off'd him. Jaguar! I fucking knew there was a reason why Satomi wasn't aging. Dat sakuga. Dat Fuurouta bounce. Dat Emi punch. Dat Ullr hidden arm grab. Dat Jiro sakuga punch. Jiro!!!! Takahara so beautiful. Jiro's fading. Dat tear. Dat hug. JIRO!!!!! Damn. Ullr coming out of the oppai like that. LMAO at Ullr humping Emi. They're gone. Michiko. Takahara. Oh snap. He had a kid. The maid is back. Earth-chan is awake. Lawd Jesus! Devila oppai and nipples are on point. I know Devilo thinking about hitting it. How could he not? SANAE! MY ETERNAL WAIFU! Female student looking fine one last time. Jaguar is back. Dat shadow. Dat ED art. And that was the end. It was a good series. Thank you for showing off my waifu's one last time (Loved the Takahara appearances this episode. She needed more screentime.), especially my #1 waifu, Sanae. I'll miss her so much. She is perfection. I just wish I got to see her naked with nipples. A shame that was wasted on Kikko in the 1st season. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
My God, those Kikko Watermelons! ԅ(♡﹃♡ԅ) 8/10, It was very entertaining. |
| Overall, I felt like this was a step down from the first season. It lacked focus and just didn’t interest me as much. 6/10 |
| Damn, it took me a while to realize but one-eyed Emi is another Kitaro reference. And one of the superhumans who previously tried to rob a bank uses a reverse grip like (Zato)ichi (and also hides his blade inside a staff)! Bonus: Jaguar is only on one of the 2 ending illustrations (finding slight differences was fun), like Emi's crows or her having 2 eyes again. Rei_III said: Well I suppose so, because I didn't fully understand the reason for the Yôkai to to have a chance to live a better life in the parrallel world (our world?) where I suppose no yôkai, monster or spirit lives (in other words, this will eventually lead to simply move the conflict to this dimension). I appreciated to see Jiro being equal to himself despite/thanks to all he experienced until now. Well the other (close to our but not exactly it) world has nuclear energy so Yôkai wouldn't be hunted down to be used for energy, which I understood was the reason they moved there. Some superhumans stayed because Satomi didn't have the chance to reveal that superhumans can also be used for energy, so they're "safe" for now. I liked the "revelation" that superhumans are also immortal (?) since they were implied to evolve from that immortal family (right?), or at least close to immortality with high regenerative power. The government probably didn't know this much when superhumans were hunted down. So it also seems that superhumans *do* exist in Jaguar's future now :). The alien plot might be a call back to Master Ultima or that space sheriff who was killed by Raito. Anyway, the show was a pleasant surprise (both seasons), and while I've never really been interested in superhero stuff, Concrete Revolutio(n) and Gatchaman Crowds put enough of originality in their plots to make them interesting explorations of sociopolitical issues (if you liked one, you'll probably enjoy the other). Maybe I should check out some classic Japanese superheroes as well, after all (Ishinomori?). P.S. Parts of Satomi's plans have come true after all, right? Many of the non-human being either went to another world or became rather dormant, and Japanese culture commercialized superhumans like the "kid's dreams" they are, according to him. P.P.S. The large supporting cast might've drained screen time from giving more depth to some of the "main" characters or the plot, but the tradeoff was worth it, I think. The somewhat incomplete picture of the world and every character's role there may piss people off but it's not like everything needs to get spelled out clearly. Rei_III said: When you say "both seasnos", do you mean you saw a clear divide between them? (To me, it really felt like the traditional 26 structure.) There were two artworks at the end? (Too long since I saw them, and my screenshots have been lost no the 1st page.) PS: I never knew but the official japanese website bothered to develop subpages for foreign lands. https://concreterevolutio.com/fr/story/index.html Between that and the fact it was originally shown on DAISUKI, the jap.congregation made during the cool-japan and no-piracy projects (if I remember well), I wonder why they bet on that in particular (other shows were simple fair like UFOTABLE's prods based on Tales of or Fate), given how relient it is on Japan's HIstory. PPS: only "pleasant". q_p Last great project of the post-2000s boom of originals. (Yeah, I'm going too far, probably.) The seasons didn't seem different to me at all. The screenshots change with the song, it's no big deal though. The website even had a chronological timeline (not sure if it got translated though). You're too pessimistic about original projects! |
St0rmbladeJul 10, 2022 3:06 PM
| @St0rmblade I love that PPS ! Yes, they wouldn't be hunted for energy, they would still be supernatural emigrants/invaders of a new race. That's why I couldn't see this emigration as a good thing. True, I thought about the Gavan guy too. But it's proably nothing more than a reference to the subculture shift someone mentioned. When you say "both seasnos", do you mean you saw a clear divide between them? (To me, it really felt like the traditional 26 structure.) There were two artworks at the end? (Too long since I saw them, and my screenshots have been lost no the 1st page.) PS: I never knew but the official japanese website bothered to develop subpages for foreign lands. https://concreterevolutio.com/fr/story/index.html Between that and the fact it was originally shown on DAISUKI, the jap.congregation made during the cool-japan and no-piracy projects (if I remember well), I wonder why they bet on that in particular (other shows were simple fair like UFOTABLE's prods based on Tales of or Fate), given how relient it is on Japan's HIstory. PPS: only "pleasant". q_p Last great project of the post-2000s boom of originals. (Yeah, I'm going too far, probably.) |
Rei_IIIJul 10, 2022 2:10 PM
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