Chihayafuru
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| I'm not a shipper and the romance is not what I liked about Chihayafuru in the first place, but this ending still bothers me a little. It feels like Chihaya is nothing more than a reward for Taichi's perserverance, it's all about him finally getting what he wants, what fans believe he "deserved"... Which is a creepy idea in my opinion. To me you can be the most perfect dude in the world, that doesn't mean *anyone* owes you romantic love. And Taichi is far from perfect anyway, he's been deceiving and petty. To me the scene where Arata says Chihaya "doesn't belong to anyone" and the fact that such an evidence takes Taichi by surprise pretty much sums it up. Taichi's flaws make him an interesting character but I wish Chihaya would have ended up single, enjoying karuta and her close friends. That's my idea of a happy ending for her. |
| TAICHI WONNN BABYYYY OH MY GOD OKAY ITS HAPPENING, EVERYBODY STAY FUCKING CALM TT.TT 10/10 |
| 「Self Aware Cringy Weeb」 |
| Unforgettable series really. While it might not have hooked me quite as much in its latter stages as it once did, this is nevertheless one of my all-time favourite manga and it's sad to see it go. Ending feels perhaps a bit rushed but I don't think it's that bad Taichi winning the love triangle was always expected but nice to see Chihaya actually coming to terms with it at long last as well |
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| The end is here. Solid manga, with a good ending. Been a rough ride in these last 20 chapters, but it was a great ride nonetheless. Thanks for everything, Suetsugu-sensei. |
| Gotta update this soon™ |
Johnny-Jay said: I'm not a shipper and the romance is not what I liked about Chihayafuru in the first place, but this ending still bothers me a little. It feels like Chihaya is nothing more than a reward for Taichi's perserverance, it's all about him finally getting what he wants, what fans believe he "deserved"... Which is a creepy idea in my opinion. To me you can be the most perfect dude in the world, that doesn't mean *anyone* owes you romantic love. And Taichi is far from perfect anyway, he's been deceiving and petty. To me the scene where Arata says Chihaya "doesn't belong to anyone" and the fact that such an evidence takes Taichi by surprise pretty much sums it up. Taichi's flaws make him an interesting character but I wish Chihaya would have ended up single, enjoying karuta and her close friends. That's my idea of a happy ending for her. I can't think like that at all, Taichi was important for Chihaya from beginning to end as she was to him. Now that she finally became Queen she could finally deal with this. The fear of not having him near her again moving to another city gave the impulse to act immediately. |
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| I hope to see marriage and kids and I hope to see this animated |
| Uwoooo. Taichi won.. |
| Taichi Win Horray #TEAMTAICHI |
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 My heart is now at peace. |
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| - I knew it, Arata getting both the Meijin title and Chihaya's heart would have been unfair to Taichi - as a Taichi fan, I can't deny I'm happy; I didn't want him to end up with Sumire - watching and reading too many anime/manga made people believe that waiting 10 years for your childhood friend is perfectly normal - however, I just hope that the ending was planned in advance and not changed after realizing that Taichi was by far the most popular character - 10/10 |
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PaninaManina said: I can't think like that at all, Taichi was important for Chihaya from beginning to end as she was to him. Now that she finally became Queen she could finally deal with this. The fear of not having him near her again moving to another city gave the impulse to act immediately. Of course Taichi has always been important to Chihaya, I can't and won't deny it. He's been her best friend for years and she tried to keep things that way after Taichi's confession, but he blamed her for this supposedly selfish desire when he's actually the one who built their friendship on lies, on an illusion he couldn't maintain anymore. This whole ending feels like a compromise more than anything else. Chihaya gets to keep her best friend but she has to date him. Chihaya's and Arata's fans get to see their favorite character win the title, and Taichi's fans get to see their ship come true. |
We suffered for 10 years, now it's their time to suffer for eternity. BHUWAHAHAAHHAHAHA! |
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| Very clean ending. Tied up all the loose ends. |
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Roaldder said: Johnny-Jay said: ... but he blamed her for this supposedly selfish desire ... Could you tell me how that happens and when? I have a feeling that you Arata's fans have created a side story. Well I might be reading too much into the "kiss" scene but to me that's one of the emotions that transpire from this. And I see Chihaya's subsequent guilt for being the "rocks that crushed Taichi's feelings all this time" as a response to that. Also, I already said in this topic that I was hoping for Chihaya to stay single. I think Taichi has too many flaws, and even though I would have been ok with Chihaya dating Arata, the guy hasn't been around enough to justify it in my opinion. Three of you just assumed that I was a Arata fan(boy) because you can't perceive this as anything other than a shipping war where Chihaya's happiness is irrelevant. I hate that. It's all about you, your favorite boy and your ego. |
| Wow, what a brilliant manga this was. I won't say I absolutely loved the chapter, because I wanted more of an epilogue for the sizeable cast the series has built up, but I thought it wrapped up well with an eye for the future. The romance has always been far in the backdrop for Chihayafuru (which isn't to say that there has been more and less overt romantic hinting) and the fanbase surely feels more investment into that aspect than the mangaka. With this being somewhat of a love triangle, obviously people take sides for one reason or another and root for their ship. Whatever you think about whom Chihaya ended up with - I was honestly pulling for Arata myself, but I can pick up the hints the mangaka have been dropping since early on - I think it's really exciting to see Chihaya grow during the series to a person who's ready to step into the future and commit herself to her dreams and also go for the guy she wants to be with. It's her decision and nobody else's, whether she's a fictional character or not. Not to mention that the series has always been more about the three together uniting over their love of Karuta, coming together as a trio and pushing each-other to get better and be happy, and the ending stuck to that. |
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| Finally afrer all this years, it's over. Excellent ending. For me it was the best possible outcome: Arata became Meijin, Chihaya became the Queen and finally understood that the person who was always at her side since the beginning was Taichi. Everyone won (Chihaya x2, tho). |
| It's truly ended on a very high note with a perfect end for this series and yes mashima got justice finally... |
| I didn't really care who she ended up with since I like both Arata and Taichi, but I just wish this ending was a little more informative, because it did feel pretty rushed. But nonetheless it was still an amazing read, hopefully the last chapters get adapted some time in the future. PS: Shinobu > Chihaya forever! IDGAF |
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| i read the last 30 or so chapters in the same day, so for me nothing feels sudden or out of left field. you can see how much she thinks of taichi during the queen match. he got the most development and was always by her side. with romance, sometimes you don't notice your own feelings until it hits you all at once. i'm so happy they ended up together. chihaya couldn't handle the idea of being 'just a friend', that's how she knew she loved him. |
| Hi! It's the first time I write here. It's a shame but wonderful at the same time cause Chihayafuru brought me here. I was recently diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and I want to say that I'm grateful to Yuki Suetsugu sensei and karuta world for these incredible years enjoying this series. Chihayafuru is a "poem" about dreams, youth and love in all its terms. When I've been reading Chihayafuru I've felt in a safe place. It may seem too rushed, but we can't just spoil 246 episodes due to a free and deliberate decision by the author. It's not about the person, it's about Chihaya, Taichi and Arata's journey to play karuta together and the friends and problems they face. Anyway, I'm waiting for a spanish release. I'm learning English on my own so I'm sorry if I made mistakes haha Greetings to all of you!! By the way, right now I'm reading a spanish transcription of Hyakunin Isshu :) |
HirotheroAug 19, 2022 1:49 PM
| i have been a loyal taichi fans for three years, finally got the moment he deserves |
| #justise for koalas |
kakeguruitwinxx said: It was always "Chihaya's choice" and "none of the boy should control her feelings" until it's NOT Chihaya and Arata and it's suddenly Arata's too good for Chihaya and that Chihaya's insensitive, immature for being with someone that isn't him. If you could just right away have a relationship with someone after 6 years just by remembering one specific poem, two times calling, and then meeting for 5 mins during tournaments time to time, then congratulations. But that's not communication. "Taichi doesn't even tell her it's Kyoto" and Chihaya doesn't even tell Arata she wants to be a teacher, and Arata doesn't tell Chihaya which major he wants to get into. But sure, cutting the information halfway because why not. Several years ago the debate about how Arata was the right guy because he said "Chihaya doesn't belong to anyone" while Taichi "Chihaya belongs to the both of us". Because surely saying that to your friend who just lost is nice example of tight friendship. And the conversation wasn't even about Chihaya. Arata was written off mysterious, but even when his arcs came he wasn't perfect. And that is good. A perfect character is boring. Is it not enough that he almost never lost, unless its a very high-ranking opponent — I can only name a few: 4 shiranami members, his own mentor in fukui nagumo, the youngest queen ever (and its only once and in practice game), and the prodigy meijin. All the while when he took a year hiatus off the game. Someone like that, to be able to be back in the game, would spare way more efforts, prodigy or not. And that's always the thing about him. Everytime he appears he's always doing karuta. Chihaya has her exams, Shinobu her independence-from-her-house, Taichi his independence-from-club. Arata did not have such an arc that is not karuta-focused. That's how much he's into karuta. And you're telling me, the absence of romantic relationship for such a character is ruining the story? I'm totally agree with your point about Arata! |
| In March, I watched all the 3 animé seasons and was pretty amazed by the chars and the plot. And after finding out that probably there won't be moar anime seasons, I started to read the manga from scratch around mid April. And today, a 4 month lasting wild ride came to a end. A great story, with great characters, narration and pace, with several soul-wrecking situations. I didn't ship for Taichi either Arata, I feel both of them would be a good fit for my waifu. Both animé adaptation and manga made my all-time top 10, and Chihaya of course is one of my all-time fav chars too. |
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| Coming from the anime to the manga I was disappointed. I'm not a shipper, the most chemistry I saw was between Chihaya and Shinobu anyway, but the longer the series ran and the more romance focused it became the less interested I was. I just stopped finding the story compelling and found it cheaper and cheaper and more and more rushed the longer it went. It's not BAD at all, but I had higher hopes. Also, uh both Taichi and Arata are kinda crap characters. Arata is barely a character after a while and Taichi is uh... a douche? And mind, these are teenagers, but they did little to endear me. the "poor little rich boy/girl" archetype is very, very tiresome, and Taichi somehow never managed to grow up at all. Oh well. I'd hoped for better but got much less. No tragedy, but Chihayafuru rots as it wears on. |
| I wonder how you got through 247 chapters making this conclusion....I would have dropped it long before. Being printed in BeLove, it's not surprising the story had a steady thread of romance but to say it dominated the story? We got tons of karuta in the last arc, beautiful resolutions for Shinobu and Suou both facing themselves through karuta. One finally admitting she was lonely, that she had isolated herself with her imagery poet friends, finally finding the way out, making friends and even ends up teaching in elementary schools.... Suou's journey is just heartbreaking, him squinting to the ground in the end to take the cards, it hurts reading this, it's bitter sweet and so real. Taichi's personal resolution is just crazy good, the torturous path to self acceptance was beautiful. Arata finally making peace with the loss and guilt of his grandfather's death.... Chihaya being acknowledged by her sister....how was this rot? Even Chihaya finally choosing the person that was always closest to her...the whole path that lead to this conclusion was by no means cheesy romance. I guess everyone has their own way of reading and preferences in the themes of a story....it probably is important to know what you are stepping into when starting a story: this wasn't a pure sports manga from the start...it was a big part but not exclusively. |
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| Dude.. Imagine writing 247 chapters of a love triangle, only masochists could even read this. |
 In most cases, the MAL Average Scores don't mean anything, here is a question: were the works made before 2000 all shit? Why are they so damn scarce in the Top 50? Think about how MAL is quite literally a filtered amount of the Anime fanbase. Here's a timeline of the Top 15 in which you can check that, almost always, the scores are affected by the freshness, popularity and other factors that have nothing to do with quality. |
| It wasn't only about a love triangle XD. So much more.... |
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I feel like that's just trying to lie to yourself, 99% of what's being talked about in this thread is that, even the Detective Conan author himself asked Suetsugu exclusively for advice of romance stuff for his movie. |
In most cases, the MAL Average Scores don't mean anything, here is a question: were the works made before 2000 all shit? Why are they so damn scarce in the Top 50? Think about how MAL is quite literally a filtered amount of the Anime fanbase. Here's a timeline of the Top 15 in which you can check that, almost always, the scores are affected by the freshness, popularity and other factors that have nothing to do with quality. |
| I'm not lying to myself cause I never hid I was shipping Taichihaya from the start...but what I loved most was Taichi's coming of age story and the different relationships he had with the people around him like his friendship with the other Mizusawa members, with Hyoro, with Harada and Suou and even Sudo....I always found the moments with him playing Karuta or exchanging with others the most interesting. I also really like the arc after he left the club and how Chihaya and Mizusawa fend without him, how much they miss him. Other than that there were many moments like with Inokuma struggling with her motherhood and passion for karuta that were really poignant and real. Suou's personal arc was one of my favourite as well. Harada's story also was so real, trying all his life...the match against Suou was goat. Shinobu's development and resolution really touched me too....how she finally broke out of her loneliness...she actually had found a way to cope with it through the cards....so it was a beautiful journey for her to make real friends and ultimately become an active socializing part of the community... There really many great moments apart from the romance. Ofcourse I'm happy Taichi and Chihaya ended up together but to say it was only about that is too much.... |
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| I've been crying for about an hour after the end. What a conclusion, what a poem A roller coaster of emotions from start to finish with such amazing characters, I didn't want them to lose anymore. It was beautiful, absolutely wonderful. |
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| Man, do I ever love this series. Who would've thought that I'd get sucked into a series such a this? Not me that's for sure. But I did and I absolutely fell head over heals in love with it. I don't think I've ever been so excited when reading a series before. Like, every few chapters I'd either be pumping my fists in the air with excitement or I'd be entranced by the art or story. Also, LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAICHI AND CHIHAYA ARE OFFICIAL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! I was pretty much ready to give up hope during these last few chapters, but it happened!!!! One of my favourite mangas of all time. Love it so much. Now here's to hoping for a season 4 sometime soon!!! |
arcticmontysSep 17, 2022 6:22 AM
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| She gave him an answer though after the third year nationals. It was a *soft* rejection, like it often happens in anime, saying that your priorities are elsewhere than romance. It's just that he sort of insisted if she ever wanted to tell him about her feelings for him, he would like to know. In the end she never wanted to...I guess she could have had a little personal talk with him at the end, that would have been a better closure. |
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| I have not read the manga yet, but I know one thing for a fact, that up until the last 2 chapters, even most devoted Taichi fans thought Arata was the end game for Chihaya, that said everything that needed to be said about this ending. At the end of the day, it just felt like the more popular character won. I would've preferred to have Chihaya picked Taichi earlier and rejected Arata earlier, instead of a last minute rejection, after she got together with Taichi. Arata deserved better, but alas. Maybe we'll get epilogue chapters where he gets some development with Shinobu. |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
FLAME2352352 said: Do you mind if I ask, what did she say about Hikaru no Go?And to say something to those who are worried about Suetsugu, she sees all of her criticisms. She is a person who tweets too much and checks Social Media thoroughly. In the past, she's had a lot of trouble with twitter. She criticized Hikaru's Go and Demon slayer and she once posted a message defending herself on a Japanese web page pretending to be a fan and was caught. So you don't have to worry about the Suetsugu being influenced by the critique. She's already reading the Chihayahuru criticism tag on Twitter Not only tweet directly to her, but also indirectly. |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
FLAME2352352 said: Thanks for sharing. Honestly it's not that bad, I thought her criticism was worse. I don't agree with what she said though, it was clear pretty early on that Hikaru started liking the game.末次由紀 ？@yuyu2000_0908 8月12日 @mion_kuri ヒカ碁だいすきですが、ヒカルが最後までちっとも囲碁が好きって 伝わってこないことが不満でした（笑） 物語のたたみ方は…もったいないとしか 言いようがない！！ I brought it in the original Japanese text written by her You can find it if you search Yahoo Japan. |
| Honobono Log - best slice of life short -------------------------------------------- most kawaii loli overlord ---------------------------- Donquixote Doflamingo AMV - Control |
| @ToG25thBaam, that up until the last 2 chapters, even most devoted Taichi fans thought Arata was the end game for Chihaya, that said everything that needed to be said about this ending Most devoted Taichi fans DID see it coming from along time already. Sensei just needed to confirm it, which she did. All the steps leading to the ending are there. If you back read the discussions here and on Reddit, literally the ending was spelled out by alot of Taichi fans up to the fact that they are a couple like the "paired cards". Sensei built it up carefully step by step ...even if alot of us write exactly what happened ....like 2 to 3 years ago....alot of people decided to close their eyes and ignore it..... Ofcouse Sensei tried to cover the tracks so we wouldn't be too sure about it and kept us on our toes till the end. The endgame was decided long ago by Sensei....the puzzle fell perfectly into place when it comes to the romance. |
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