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ssjokg said: They tried to make a point of how Ilya was tuned even while inside the womb. Something that Irisviel and Kitsurugi knew too well and since they have made quite an effort for her to have a normal life, it would not be unreasonable that they reversed said tuning while she was still an infant. |
mangamuscle said: If they did then they failed since my 2nd spoiler above.ssjokg said: They tried to make a point of how Ilya was tuned even while inside the womb. Something that Irisviel and Kitsurugi knew too well and since they have made quite an effort for her to have a normal life, it would not be unreasonable that they reversed said tuning while she was still an infant. |
ssjokg said: If they did then they failed since my 2nd spoiler above. Unless you tell me there is some specific rule of magic in type moon then I think that it is still a possibility; which sadly we will never know for sure unless we get a time skip, but I deem it quite improbable since one of the bonus for many fans is precisely that Illya (and friends) is a loli. |
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| So the end of the second season. Amazingly animated like the first season, hope it stays like this in season 3. |
| This season was way better than the first. Great animation, fights, characters, etc etc. Can't wait for 3rd season! |
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| Double the Illya, Double the Fun, more lesbians, Triple the fun. Way better than season 1 :P 9/10 for this series |
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ssjokg said: I know, but i almost don't want to admit that's my bad since the F/SN adaptation was too bad to keep watching. Don't even most Nasu fans agree on that? But i expect Ufotable to fix that for everyone.You are basically throwing a fit because a AU series of a main storyline didnt do its own thing and relied heavily on the main storylines.Like many other spinoffs. Fai said: Oh, i'm sure, but it's a bunch of stuff explored in a 50+ hours book, and then just sort of mentioned and used in a spin-off. Not requiring that everything needs to be explained in detail again in a spin-off, just being grumpy about it.Difference being that power levels in naruto make no sense and depend onmood of the author and how much weed he smoked and are all based on PEACE. This actually makes sense for anyone who bothers to think about it. ssjokg said: Oh, that's actually what teenagers do, i've heard from moms. Or are they preteens? Whatever. Preteens too, i'm sure. You're not cool if you don't have a bra, regardless of your level of boobage. I think i've also heard a similar thing about boys starting to shave before they really need to. You can at least pretend to be adult, i guess.And I have to ask again. Why are they even buying bras when they wont develop secondary sex characteristics at any point of their lives? Whats up with this random choice of fanservice "plot"? Zeta986 said: +1 |
| It's not only the first anime.Bazett doesnt even appear in the "original" FSN Visual novel.She is from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. So if you expect to see Bazett in the remake prepare to be disappointed since |
Volbla said: Well... i guess Bazett would have been cool if i had any context for her, but now i'm just stuck wondering what the fuck she is. She just shows up and she's the funkiest thing ever. Ok. I guess that's what you get for watching a spin-off before watching the original. I always thought that this would do its completely own thing, and it kinda did in the first season. "This isn't about grails and wars and saving the world. This is about magical girls. Weee ^_^ ", kinda. How foolish of me to think that it wouldn't dive deeper into the Fate mire. With how underdeveloped she was, and really how little she accomplished, Bazett feels more like fanservice than anything else. But that's fine. Fanservice is the point of this show, and i'm sure she'll do something more substantial in the future. Well, that because she IS a fanservice for the fans. As everything else in this series. Yes, first season was reasonably standalone but even that, there were lot of references you wouldn't get without some knowledge of the world. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend this to anyone prior playing both FSN and FHA games and seeing F/Z or at least knowing hell lot about Nasuverse. Kaleid is almost the same as Carnival Phantasm in its approach and it doesn't bother with telling you the basics simply because you are not meant to watch this without knowing them. It's the same as this summer's Persona 4 Golden anime that's meant as bonus for game players not as standalone version. ssjokg said: It's not only the first anime.Bazett doesnt even appear in the "original" FSN Visual novel.She is from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. So if you expect to see Bazett in the remake prepare to be disappointed since I dunno. Maybe she will appear in upcoming UBW as means of showing more |
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Mich666 said: Kaleid is almost the same as Carnival Phantasm in its approach and it doesn't bother with telling you the basics simply because you are not meant to watch this without knowing them. It is not that you are not meant to watch them without prior knowledge since you can still enjoy as much as watching a The Simpsons episode without understanding all the references. The simple truth that this is a TV series shown after midnight so you are not going to see while shuffling channels, this is made mostly for Fate fans and people watching know it, but if you are a loli or magical girls aficionado the series is still good enough on its own right. If in the future they make a movie of Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya you can be assured that in the first five minutes they will try to explains as much as possible about the grail wars, the kaleido sticks, the magician organization, etc. because a movie is made to appeal to a broader public. |
mangamuscle said: Well the UBW movie didnt even try this.Mich666 said: Kaleid is almost the same as Carnival Phantasm in its approach and it doesn't bother with telling you the basics simply because you are not meant to watch this without knowing them. It is not that you are not meant to watch them without prior knowledge since you can still enjoy as much as watching a The Simpsons episode without understanding all the references. The simple truth that this is a TV series shown after midnight so you are not going to see while shuffling channels, this is made mostly for Fate fans and people watching know it, but if you are a loli or magical girls aficionado the series is still good enough on its own right. If in the future they make a movie of Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya you can be assured that in the first five minutes they will try to explains as much as possible about the grail wars, the kaleido sticks, the magician organization, etc. because a movie is made to appeal to a broader public. |
ssjokg said: There's a movie? Nah it's getting REALLY old now <_<mangamuscle said: Well the UBW movie didnt even try this.It is not that you are not meant to watch them without prior knowledge since you can still enjoy as much as watching a The Simpsons episode without understanding all the references. The simple truth that this is a TV series shown after midnight so you are not going to see while shuffling channels, this is made mostly for Fate fans and people watching know it, but if you are a loli or magical girls aficionado the series is still good enough on its own right. If in the future they make a movie of Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya you can be assured that in the first five minutes they will try to explains as much as possible about the grail wars, the kaleido sticks, the magician organization, etc. because a movie is made to appeal to a broader public. Anyway, I doubt they will ever do that. A movie is not long enough to be comfortable wasting time explaining how shit works in Fate/, especially because of how much there would be to explain. |
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ssjokg said: Well the UBW movie didnt even try this. The difference here is that with UBW (or HF) you do not have a generic angle to pitch to the broader public, so wasting time in explanations would have only enraged the fanbase. But with F/KLP☆I you got the magical girls (remember Puella Magi Madoka Magica?) angle, which if done right could increase the amount of fans of the Fate franchise in general since you could even show it to little kids (the yuri situations are not an issue, Madoka/Homura have proven that). Botato said: Anyway, I doubt they will ever do that. A movie is not long enough to be comfortable wasting time explaining how shit works in Fate/, especially because of how much there would be to explain. They can get away with a simple "It is magic!", as long as the fights are entertaining and the plot keeps the viewer interested. TBT a movie meant for the broader public must have an easy to understand plot (see Avatar), if there are more complex issues underneath that is fine as long as it does not bog down the pace. |
Mich666 said: I dunno. Maybe she will appear in upcoming UBW as means of showing more Yeah, unless its a short scene near the end of , not gonna happen since it would spoil who Lancer's master is. mangamuscle said: They can get away with a simple "It is magic!", as long as the fights are entertaining and the plot keeps the viewer interested. TBT a movie meant for the broader public must have an easy to understand plot (see Avatar), if there are more complex issues underneath that is fine as long as it does not bog down the pace. They tried that with DEEN-FSN. Its still one ofmajor complaints by anime secondaries about that version. |
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Fai said: Mich666 said: I dunno. Maybe she will appear in upcoming UBW as means of showing more Yeah, unless its a short scene near the end of Yes, but does it really matter? There is viewers' perspective and character's perspective and they can use both as they already did in F/Z (eg. some Masters not knowing there is more then one assassin and so on) They would need some scenes for Kirei to get more screentime and it's not like that viewers don't really know him after watching what he did in F/Z. I doubt they want only one Shirou's perspective and plotline in anime, I am nearly sure of that. |
Mich666 said: Fai said: Yeah, unless its a short scene near the end of Yes, but does it really matter? There is viewers' perspective and character's perspective and they can use both as they already did in F/Z (eg. some Masters not knowing there is more then one assassin and so on) They would need some scenes for Kirei to get more screentime and it's not like that viewers don't really know him after watching what he did in F/Z. I doubt they want only one Shirou's perspective and plotline in anime, I am nearly sure of that. Except that does not work with FSN with the nature of the storyline being all about DISCOVERING those things. Why do you think they broke away the "Master to servant" order of CMs for Lancer? Because its a spoiler. Also viewing order is still the same so FSN should assume you have no knowledge of 4th war. |
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| Eighth card, huh? Guess I'll be waiting for season three. 7/10. |
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| To much fanservice for my liking. Any chance the 8th card is Advenger? |
| these last 3 eps made me increase my score so 4/10 anyways theres a sequel i guess, is Irie gonna get more screentime? she didnt do much this time even though i was told that she had a more important role than in season 1, i thought there wasnt much of a difference |
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Mich666 said: Yeah... when you put it like that i think i'm on board. I once had a conversation with a guy who thought that Disappearance of Haruhi should have set up and explained the backstory more. I didn't think that was fair since it is a straight up sequel, but it is a movie that played in theatres, so idunno~Well, that because she IS a fanservice for the fans. As everything else in this series. Yes, first season was reasonably standalone but even that, there were lot of references you wouldn't get without some knowledge of the world. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend this to anyone prior playing both FSN and FHA games and seeing F/Z or at least knowing hell lot about Nasuverse. You know what would have been awesome? A 3-5 minute special, maybe in a "moving comic" style or something, that sums up what the character is about. Almost like those cinematics from the DCUO game http://youtu.be/JgCMnFvorPI |
| Being different mediums doesnt mean that the creators must be forced to explain things that the viewer should and could have already know. If someone watched DoHS first then it is their mistake. Kaleid is different but then we have to explain, different universes, and Bazett's "main" story from FHA, is very different. What we needed to know about her was actually in the series. |
FakePriest said: Being different mediums doesnt mean that the creators must be forced to explain things that the viewer should and could have already know. If someone watched DoHS first then it is their mistake. Kaleid is different but then we have to explain, different universes, and Bazett's "main" story from FHA, is very different. What we needed to know about her was actually in the series. Not to mention that end of 2wei |
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SlothPriest said: I said this in episode 2 thread and apparently it gets more intense as the series goes on or something.Anyways, I'm looking forward to the sequel and hopefully it has less yuri (and less loli... a man can dream, right?) So yeah, sucks for us :( (Thank God, I am not alone!) |
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BotatoPriest said: The yuri is really toned down from here on.SlothPriest said: I said this in episode 2 thread and apparently it gets more intense as the series goes on or something.Anyways, I'm looking forward to the sequel and hopefully it has less yuri (and less loli... a man can dream, right?) So yeah, sucks for us :( (Thank God, I am not alone!) |
BotatoPriest said: This is as bad as it gets:SlothPriest said: I said this in episode 2 thread and apparently it gets more intense as the series goes on or something.Anyways, I'm looking forward to the sequel and hopefully it has less yuri (and less loli... a man can dream, right?) So yeah, sucks for us :( (Thank God, I am not alone!) |
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FakePriest said: BotatoPriest said: The yuri is really toned down from here on.I said this in episode 2 thread and apparently it gets more intense as the series goes on or something. So yeah, sucks for us :( (Thank God, I am not alone!) You mean except for right? :P |
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Fai said: FakePriest said: The yuri is really toned down from here on. You mean except for right? :P There are like two kisses in more than 30 chapters? |
FakePriest said: There are like two kisses in more than 30 chapters? We do not know if there were more "off-camera". Taiga looks like she wants a re-fill, badly and you know getting prana from normal humans is like ordering chinese, you are hungry two hours after you finished eating :9 |
mangamuscle said: We dont need to know.FakePriest said: There are like two kisses in more than 30 chapters? We do not know if there were more "off-camera". Taiga looks like she wants a re-fill, badly and you know getting prana from normal humans is like ordering chinese, you are hungry two hours after you finished eating :9 |
| 10/10 would re-watch. |
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| 5/5 Bazett is a monster in combat, but Luvia and Rin are of wickedness! XD Too bad little tough the battle, but at least it is well managed, accessible narrative is the episode at the end of this really matters. The Plot wing end while giving plenty of space to sentiemnti, still leaves a good suspense, I'm looking forward to the new year. Drawings and animations really good, a great second season from the technical point of view, although a smaller TV series in the world of Fate. Congratulations to the Silver Link and the rest of the staff who worked there. Excellent also the last end-card. For now, my final grade is 7.5 / 10! |
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| wtf 8 cards, I wonder what class that card is. Although I think I know what it is... |
| Hmm an 8th card! Interesting...But it looks like the new overpowered woman got away I'd give this season an 8-9/10. Although I enjoyed the first season more, 2wei definitely still had the comedy and and awesome magic action that I'd expect from this show. Definitely a good watch, and I'm looking forward to part 2! |
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| Pretty decent ending, and I'm glad this is over with. While the action was nice like most of the time with this franchise the pacing is as horrible as ever... oh well better finish what I started so let's hope the third season will be at least better or at least let's hope... |
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| Bazzett saved this season for me, such a God damn badass. Hard to say whether or not sure was more badass in this or F/HA, but either way seeing her animated definitely helped. |
| Nice! Now I just need to wait for the second story... I'm very anxious! :D |
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dmasterxd said: Volbla said: I know, but i almost don't want to admit that's my bad since the F/SN adaptation was too bad to keep watching. Don't even most Nasu fans agree on that? But i expect Ufotable to fix that for everyone. Well ufotable failed epically then because the original series was better lol. I'm pretty sure it's just you who thinks that. |
Insertanamehere said: Stop. Taking. Such. Low. Quality. Bait.dmasterxd said: Well ufotable failed epically then because the original series was better lol. I'm pretty sure it's just you who thinks that. |
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StrayBotato said: Insertanamehere said: Stop. Taking. Such. Low. Quality. Bait.I'm pretty sure it's just you who thinks that. I can't |
Forgetfulness said: Well, finally finished this season. I dunno how I feel about it tbh On one hand, there were nice fights (especially vs. Bazett) and a lot more plot development. On the other hand, I felt the comedy and such in this season was more cliche / less funny than in the first season if I recall correctly. Although this season was good, I think I probably like the first season better.. I'm guessing the 8th card is ? Well, regardless of who it is, it will be interesting to see how the plot continues to unfold Final score: 7/10 The comedy was identical to the one in FSN so fi YOu think this is cliche, FSN might as well be.Might as well rate that one 7/10 too. Seriously? YOu should know better on who 8th card is. Either way still better than ufofsn. |
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| But it's not identical. The comedy here was at least 10X better than the VN. |
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StrayBotato said: But it's not identical. The comedy here was at least 10X better than the VN. So you are saying it is similar but not the same? I agree. |
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Forgetfulness said: What...? When did Fate/stay night come into the topic? I'm talking about the first season of Prisma Illya @_@ Well...since you told me that my first guess was wrong now I'm fairly certain I know who the 8th card is. 8th Servant in Fate/stay night? FSN is same franchise so yes it comes into topic. Yes |
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