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May 25, 2014 6:20 PM

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To hell if I know. I am living my whole life as a dork.

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May 25, 2014 6:31 PM

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Pros:
Quick and easy to understand
Able to predict outcomes of events, leads to much less mistakes
Logical thinking leads to methods to overcome stress rationally.
Fascination of the world beyond normal understanding, leads to no boredom

Cons:
As said, very, very lonely, as you don't have a lot of people to share your experiences with.
Stress = intelligence. The smarter you are, the more you stress out, thankfully you're also good at dealing with stress, but sometimes it's too much.
Intelligent people are likely to turn to drugs to relieve stress. Thankfully, they can share that with all the people who aren't intelligent.


I feel emotional support must = intelligence, in order to remain a stable person, who can truthfully state they are happy.
May 25, 2014 10:06 PM
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no ones on there level thus its just a waste of potential
May 25, 2014 10:09 PM

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Intelligence depends on what the person is doing, some people can memorize an entire song by hearing it, some people can see things different ways, among other things, if your talking about a general IQ, then Iam probably slightly below or average intelligence.


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May 25, 2014 10:12 PM

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I wouldn't know.

Everyone likes to claim they're very intelligent people, so I just stopped and said, "I can't keep up anymore."
Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit.
May 25, 2014 10:19 PM

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Who knows. There are things stupid people can do better than intelligent people, so I guess it depends on what you truly value in life.
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May 25, 2014 10:21 PM

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Jackrabb1t said:
LadyRenly said:
Probably pretty sad. They see things for how they are, and what they see probably instills a great sadness in them.
Yeah, it's all so depressing and pointless.

Some days I am very tempted to go destroy my mind with drugs, sex, and alcohol.... just to end the sanity. Or insanity. Whatever.


If you have self-destructive thoughts just from being 'intelligent', you should get some help. Maybe a psychiatrist?
May 26, 2014 12:07 AM

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It's certainly a double-edged sword.
May 26, 2014 12:20 AM

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jimbobyoo said:
Wintour said:
jimbobyoo said:
Intelligence can't be measured as intelligence is different for every person, some may see intelligence as easy to memorize and repeat(school) or other may say intelligence is the ability to make rational decisions in everyday situations and high stress situations
or perhaps intelligence is just common sense. Is there truly such thing as intelligence?


^ I really hate people like this.


I apologize you can't accept my opinion.


I guess intelligent people feel hated because you opinion is actually correct.
People are intelligent at different things.
May 26, 2014 1:26 AM
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Everything around you seems stupid
May 26, 2014 1:45 AM
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If not loneliness, it definitely creates a sense of elitism. Personally, I feel "elite" at times (and I realize that I'm very mistaken in feeling as such), but I try my best not to sound like a douche who only knows how to get A's in class and brag.
May 26, 2014 2:37 AM

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Dr_Smurph said:
xEmptiness said:
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I guess intelligent people feel hated because you opinion is actually correct.
People are intelligent at different things.

Or perhaps you just feel threatened by intelligence. That's why after it's been explicitly defined by the OP there's still people like you who insist on using a warped definition and spreading your "wisdom".

It becomes very apparent from a young age when children possess superior intellect compared to their peers. Go to your closest primary school and watch a few classes. If you still think that everyone possesses equal intellectual aptitude, then it's safe to conclude that you were not that child during your academic years.

Even as defined by the OP, it leaves plenty of room to state the opinion that intelligence can be measured in a number of ways, which makes it difficult to judge. No reason to get touchy.

It may become apparent that some at a young age possess superior intellect in terms of their schooling. However those same people may not match up to the street smart kid who has a lot of common sense, however is a bad test taker.

So taking into account OP's definition. Maybe they have capacity for learning that makes them good students, however lack aptitude in grasping truths.




I'd say both the street smart person and a good test-taker employ the use of knowledge in their respective exploits. We arent born with the knowledge to be street smart or to be a good test-taker. What we are born with is the "intelligence"- abilit to gather data and identify patterns, and these data and relationships we identify can be manifested in things like being street smart or being good test-taker.

If we use OP's definiton - there is no room for shifting in poorly-defined irrelevant concepts such as "street smart" or "good test-taker". Grasping truth is grasping truth, grasping relationship is grasping relationship, etc
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Not the smartest but I'm gonna have to say negative. There'd only be so many people you could relate to
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i wonder if intelligent people get antsy about what counts as intelligent?
May 26, 2014 3:31 AM

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I feel like MAL is just full of the usual introverted "intelligent" people who would be excelling academically if they tried, but they don't. This type of person usually feels superior to others over really minor things because they don't have anything real to feel superior about.
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This thread humbles me :P

As a really smart person, more and more things become easier for us, we also process information fast and understand really quick. There is one more thing about us is that we always listen and observe and not afraid to challenge anyone intellectually.
May 26, 2014 3:36 AM

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Wintour said:
So, if you are intelligent, tell us what it feels like to be you. (I'm not really clever. I don't have what they call a first-class mind.)

What does it make you feel?
What are the pros and cons of being intelligent?

Intelligence:
capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc
^ Since you can't fucking google it yourself.



People are stupid in different ways, the so-called intelligent people doesn't fucking exists.

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May 26, 2014 3:38 AM
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Plate said:
I feel like MAL is just full of the usual introverted "intelligent" people who would be excelling academically if they tried, but they don't. This type of person usually feels superior to others over really minor things because they don't have anything real to feel superior about.
makes sense. although i'm sure some feel there's more to life than academia.
May 26, 2014 3:41 AM

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Intelligence depends on what the person is doing, some people can memorize an entire song by hearing it, some people can see things different ways, among other things, if your talking about a general IQ, then Iam probably slightly below or average intelligence.


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Same but IQ doesn't mean squat to me. My boss probably has a higher IQ than me but I could run his business better than him and that's a fact. Ugh, some of these comments make me cringe "I appreciate being able to understand the world around me better than most others, but I also get depressed over how people's stupidity is leading us towards the abyss." Well get of your ass and try to do something about it you worthless pile of crap. I hate talkers.
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Heredity said:
Plate said:
I feel like MAL is just full of the usual introverted "intelligent" people who would be excelling academically if they tried, but they don't. This type of person usually feels superior to others over really minor things because they don't have anything real to feel superior about.
makes sense. although i'm sure some feel there's more to life than academia.


Yeah, but if you go around telling people your IQ is 500 and you can't pass college algebra...
May 26, 2014 3:44 AM

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Plate said:
Heredity said:
Plate said:
I feel like MAL is just full of the usual introverted "intelligent" people who would be excelling academically if they tried, but they don't. This type of person usually feels superior to others over really minor things because they don't have anything real to feel superior about.
makes sense. although i'm sure some feel there's more to life than academia.


Yeah, but if you go around telling people your IQ is 500 and you can't pass college algebra...


"nah man, me just lazy man, if I tried man, I would ace everything man! Man!"

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Plate said:
Heredity said:
Plate said:
I feel like MAL is just full of the usual introverted "intelligent" people who would be excelling academically if they tried, but they don't. This type of person usually feels superior to others over really minor things because they don't have anything real to feel superior about.
makes sense. although i'm sure some feel there's more to life than academia.


Yeah, but if you go around telling people your IQ is 500 and you can't pass college algebra...
haven't a lot of really important people dropped out of academics to pursue something, though? i mean, the very image of intelligence within the last century didn't even graduate from higher education.
May 26, 2014 3:58 AM

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haven't a lot of really important people dropped out of academics to pursue something, though? i mean, the very image of intelligence within the last century didn't even graduate from higher education.


Yeah, the kind of person I'm talking about loves to latch onto that, and usually says silly shit like Einstein failed some math class or something. They claim to be intelligent in a way that would excel in academia but mostly just have "internet intelligence" which is likely just a large vocabulary, a working knowledge of logical fallacies and a strong will to show off both.

Then you have the people who feel they must be intelligent because they are different from others, because they have trouble understanding other people - social, happy, or normal people. They look down on them as being less intelligent and feel better about themselves because of it. But they're probably just a little autistic.

This is why if you look through this thread you will only see stuff like "it's so lonely" and "if only I applied myself."
May 26, 2014 4:05 AM

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Knowledge =/= intelligence.

Though, knowledge does contribute to your intelligence. You can be smart without knowing much at all, and your IQ is relative to those of similar background to you (i.e. Caucasian male of 20-25 residing in the US).

Intelligence is essentially how to use what you know, or how well you take in and grasp new information, and the speed and accuracy in which you do these things.


Example: At around 1st grade, I knew that 10 x 10 = 100. I didn't know why, I didn't even really know what multiplication was. The fact that 10 x 10 = 100 counted as knowledge, but it didn't contribute much to my intelligence, other than when learning about it in the future helping me to grasp it slightly faster than otherwise. Now I know what multiplication is. I understand the concept, and even without knowing what 1920 x 1080 is, I can figure it out on my own, without a calculator, given enough time (cause I don't practice at these things). The knowledge of multiplication contributes to my intelligence, allowing me to determine unknown variables using known factors.
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Plate said:
Heredity said:
haven't a lot of really important people dropped out of academics to pursue something, though? i mean, the very image of intelligence within the last century didn't even graduate from higher education.


Yeah, the kind of person I'm talking about loves to latch onto that, and usually says silly shit like Einstein failed some math class or something. They claim to be intelligent in a way that would excel in academia but mostly just have "internet intelligence" which is likely just a large vocabulary, a working knowledge of logical fallacies and a strong will to show off both.

Then you have the people who feel they must be intelligent because they are different from others, because they have trouble understanding other people - social, happy, or normal people. They look down on them as being less intelligent and feel better about themselves because of it. But they're probably just a little autistic.
to me it just sounds like you value academics, that's all.
May 26, 2014 4:34 AM

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Feels good, man.
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There's a fine line between intelligence and loneliness. When you begin to mix them, that's when genius' are born.
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I see myself as a really intelligent person, emphasis on "I see myself". Actually, even if others would claim I am intelligent, that does not necessarily mean I am intelligent anyway, it's a funny thing when you can't actually measure something and most "measurements" are biased as fuck.

But that's the thing, ones view of oneself capabilities are mostly biased. But I see myself as more intelligent than most people and maybe a lot better than everyone.

Is that true? Who knows. I do believe that there's always someone better even if you're on the top, yet my ego screams something else.

How does it feel? Great, it feels really good, I don't feel lonely or sad like others though, which makes it even better.




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Heredity said:
Plate said:
Heredity said:
haven't a lot of really important people dropped out of academics to pursue something, though? i mean, the very image of intelligence within the last century didn't even graduate from higher education.


Yeah, the kind of person I'm talking about loves to latch onto that, and usually says silly shit like Einstein failed some math class or something. They claim to be intelligent in a way that would excel in academia but mostly just have "internet intelligence" which is likely just a large vocabulary, a working knowledge of logical fallacies and a strong will to show off both.

Then you have the people who feel they must be intelligent because they are different from others, because they have trouble understanding other people - social, happy, or normal people. They look down on them as being less intelligent and feel better about themselves because of it. But they're probably just a little autistic.
to me it just sounds like you value academics, that's all.


Academics is a great Exercise for the intellectuals who exists on a right brain predominance. For Artistic types or left brain thinkers, its really hard to get to grips with the bureaucracy and challenges of a standard academic career. Likewise, you'll find the other finds it difficult to grasp abstract thoughts feelings or expressions.

True intelligence, really isn't how smart you are on either scale. If you can;t communicate effectively with the people above or below you in a constructive way you really haven't shown any actual intelligence. That's why we get so many arguments.

Even if you managed to grasp the ultimate truth of life/reality or just some puzzle that's important in the key stages of human development. What good does it do anyone if you're sat alone on your own with that knowledge locked away in your tiny brain.

Academia is a great method of exchanging ideas over a safe platform. We can't all be Banksy, or Einstein. But we can at least try to reach up to a greater understanding. For people who feel trapped with an idea or whatever, academia gives you a great opportunity to express those ideas and talents. Just like the internet gives creative people and Tech savy people an outlet for theirs. It's a platform.

The hardest thing is when someone who has JUST only now figured out some awesome truth about something start talking like they are an authority on it. But worse still, a new comer to an old conversation where the Topic might be about Megalithic structure of The ancient world or something and they come in and start talking about how dinosaurs were really really big and stuff and how impressed everyone should be and that they've added something nobody had ever thought of before. If it's a troll, then bleh, fuck that. But if it's a genuine person who believes their actually progress the conversation when it's completely off topic. It can bit really frustrating. Because you have to wait for them to catch up, or you have to have your conversation just fall apart.

I occasionally still meet someone who says something like ''ah but is the green you see and the green i see the same green or is it even green?!?!''

Yes, yes it is. It's provable through scientific method. Now fuck off. And then i just come off sounding like a douche.
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Elphe said:
Heredity said:
Plate said:
Heredity said:
haven't a lot of really important people dropped out of academics to pursue something, though? i mean, the very image of intelligence within the last century didn't even graduate from higher education.


Yeah, the kind of person I'm talking about loves to latch onto that, and usually says silly shit like Einstein failed some math class or something. They claim to be intelligent in a way that would excel in academia but mostly just have "internet intelligence" which is likely just a large vocabulary, a working knowledge of logical fallacies and a strong will to show off both.

Then you have the people who feel they must be intelligent because they are different from others, because they have trouble understanding other people - social, happy, or normal people. They look down on them as being less intelligent and feel better about themselves because of it. But they're probably just a little autistic.
to me it just sounds like you value academics, that's all.


Academics is a great Exercise for the intellectuals who exists on a right brain predominance. For Artistic types or left brain thinkers, its really hard to get to grips with the bureaucracy and challenges of a standard academic career. Likewise, you'll find the other finds it difficult to grasp abstract thoughts feelings or expressions.

True intelligence, really isn't how smart you are on either scale. If you can;t communicate effectively with the people above or below you in a constructive way you really haven't shown any actual intelligence. That's why we get so many arguments.

Even if you managed to grasp the ultimate truth of life/reality or just some puzzle that's important in the key stages of human development. What good does it do anyone if you're sat alone on your own with that knowledge locked away in your tiny brain.

Academia is a great method of exchanging ideas over a safe platform. We can't all be Banksy, or Einstein. But we can at least try to reach up to a greater understanding. For people who feel trapped with an idea or whatever, academia gives you a great opportunity to express those ideas and talents. Just like the internet gives creative people and Tech savy people an outlet for theirs. It's a platform.

The hardest thing is when someone who has JUST only now figured out some awesome truth about something start talking like they are an authority on it. But worse still, a new comer to an old conversation where the Topic might be about Megalithic structure of The ancient world or something and they come in and start talking about how dinosaurs were really really big and stuff and how impressed everyone should be and that they've added something nobody had ever thought of before. If it's a troll, then bleh, fuck that. But if it's a genuine person who believes their actually progress the conversation when it's completely off topic. It can bit really frustrating. Because you have to wait for them to catch up, or you have to have your conversation just fall apart.

I occasionally still meet someone who says something like ''ah but is the green you see and the green i see the same green or is it even green?!?!''

Yes, yes it is. It's provable through scientific method. Now fuck off. And then i just come off sounding like a douche.
well, i sure as heck don't have anything to add to that. yay!
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I imagine that it would feel powerful.
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xEmptiness said:
Elphe said:

I occasionally still meet someone who says something like ''ah but is the green you see and the green i see the same green or is it even green?!?!''

Yes, yes it is. It's provable through scientific method. Now fuck off. And then i just come off sounding like a douche.

Ironically new theories emerging as a result of gene therapy suggest the opposite.

Primates have been cured of color blindness and have had their brains rewired, only to find that they still perceive the same color despite having their cones swapped. The colors as we understand it could be completely psychologically constructed.

Saw a few papers on Nature journal about it a couple of years back.


You only have 3 cones. RGB. Doesn't matter if you swap them around. Rods also tend to see RG light when the cones don't work. I would like a link to that paper though. The cones themselves aren't psychologically constructed they're biologically constructed. But, I've argued for years the colour as we see it actually only exist in the mind. Which is a pretty hard theory to prove since you can't collect hard data on it. Synaesthesia is probably the really closet thing you can come to collecting data. And it's all a bit bleh.
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Being a mediocre intelligent individual, life's great.

I say it doesn't really have much feels to it. It just is. I don't flaunt whatever I'm good at or bad at and is rather open-minded *yet* skeptic about many things. Life's a process of learning after all.
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The good of being intelligent is knowing that you can do a lot of stuff that only a few can and still be sad about everything you do, because the world don't give a shit about individuals and your flesh is too weak for your mind. And the more you grow on knowledge, the more you start to learn that in fact your knowledge worth nothing and the truth is that you can't know everything. The best thing that you could be is a commoner that believes in God with all the heart and don't give a shit about the shit hole we live. Well, the intelligent people told me that. Thank God I'm just a commoner, I know nothing.
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xEmptiness said:
Elphe said:
xEmptiness said:
Elphe said:

I occasionally still meet someone who says something like ''ah but is the green you see and the green i see the same green or is it even green?!?!''

Yes, yes it is. It's provable through scientific method. Now fuck off. And then i just come off sounding like a douche.

Ironically new theories emerging as a result of gene therapy suggest the opposite.

Primates have been cured of color blindness and have had their brains rewired, only to find that they still perceive the same color despite having their cones swapped. The colors as we understand it could be completely psychologically constructed.

Saw a few papers on Nature journal about it a couple of years back.


You only have 3 cones. RGB. Doesn't matter if you swap them around. Rods also tend to see RG light when the cones don't work. I would like a link to that paper though. The cones themselves aren't psychologically constructed they're biologically constructed. But, I've argued for years the colour as we see it actually only exist in the mind. Which is a pretty hard theory to prove since you can't collect hard data on it. Synaesthesia is probably the really closet thing you can come to collecting data. And it's all a bit bleh.

The important thing about swapping them around isn't about the wavelength each cone receives, which stays static. It's the fact that your brain is capable of simply rewiring and somehow producing new colors almost randomly.

This means subjectively how we see color may greatly differ between people. The wavelength of light is irrelevant in this respect because we don't see numbers when light is shined into our eyes.

The first I read was published October 2009 (DOI: 10.1038/nature08401). I can't be bothered finding the rest, it's too late, need to sleep.


What? no. The wave length of the light isn't important. The receptor is. Doesn't matter if you move it or switch it around if its a Green receptor it'll see green, and so on. Besides this seems to be applied to gene therapy for colour blindness and the addition of an extra cone class to increase the field of vision..

Colour blindness is pretty crazy.
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Not enough internet IQ test results.

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Heheheh.

Not sure. I've taken an IQ test before but generally do not believe them to be accurate enough for anything other then amusement. Beyond that I do not think of how my intelligence makes me feel.
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I wouldn't say intelligence as there are many ways to define it
But if we strictly talking about Knowing things others don't...

then I would say its horrible!
Sometimes I feel like I know too much. I can't even have a regular conversation with my family members. Especially my mom and dad.

I start educating them as we talk with each other.
I feel like I have to dumb things down to talk to others.

I think thats why I don't have many friends in college.
High school was different because I wasn't pursuing higher knowledge like I do now.
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Change the thread title to "What does it feel like to be arrogant?"

It's more fitting given some of the answers
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Change the thread title to "What does it feel like to be arrogant?"

It's more fitting given some of the answers
i support this. all in favour, say 'aye.'
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Heredity said:
i support this. all in favour, say 'aye.'
Imma say 'yes' instead of 'aye', because I'm special.
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Sapewloth said:
Heredity said:
i support this. all in favour, say 'aye.'
Imma say 'yes' instead of 'aye', because I'm special.


I'm going to say yay, because yay.
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Well, it's not necessarily arrogance, it can be that one is actually better than the others, ohohohoho, considering how you can flip the definition however you want.

Semantics are fun.




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Anyone that says that being intelligent is ''lonely'' is the a conceited piece of shit and needs to remove their heads from their presumably dirtied rectums.
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Slyr3do0n said:
It feels good, but it gets annoying when people think of you as the smart guy. Apparently I'm not allowed to have trouble with things. My friends roll their eyes at me if I say I thought a test or something was difficult. I also get rolling eyes sometimes when I answer their questions.


for some reason I'm reminded of that one part in labyrinth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiUt5HuW3xc

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I dunno who this is I am 12 you tell things we run and I no go home..


Pork chop sandwiches! my god did that smell good.

Ahahaha yes yes someone gets it.
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I think everybody is intelligent in their own way, but yes some people are stupider than others, as somebody who has excelled academically all his life and been through law school the only insight I can offer you is that it is extremely disheartening to think of the wider world and all its problems, I sometimes envy people who can live their lives oblivious to all of it.

Having said that, I have much to learn about people and the world itself; for me life is a learning experience and I tend not to judge people based on anything but their character and their virtues. I'm 100% certain that most bricklayers have better hearts than most lawyers.
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I consider myself to be intelligent and it certainly feels good. In school for example the fact that I don't even have to study really in my advanced mathematics course and still have an A+ feels good or the fact that it takes me less than 20 minutes to perfectly memorize 30+ words in English or Spanish simply makes life easier. I would consider my biggest strength to be my reasoning though as even when I don't know something I still know it in a sense due or can understand it and talk about it easily. The only downfall here is I at times can become too analytical and often rely on my reasoning too much and don't let things just happen. I've gotten a lot better at this though over the years.
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Anyone who posts in this thread claiming to be intelligent, is not intelligent.

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It's horrible.

The smarter you are the less you enjoy life. Dumb people don't realize shit and they can just "not care" about everything. Smart people can't ignore the universe so they suffer a lot, trust me.
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It's horrible.

The smarter you are the less you enjoy life. Dumb people don't realize shit and they can just "not care" about everything. Smart people can't ignore the universe so they suffer a lot, trust me.
Okay. I'm all in for renaming this thread "What does it feel like to be arrogant" now.
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its hard i must say, always being asked to do stuff or to help people, so i retired from be smart :)
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Itโ€™s time to ditch the text file.
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