| Anime ARE cartoons. It's not a debate its a fact. I'm really frustrated with any weeaboo that says otherwise. Otakus need to think outside the otaku propaganda box. The style IS different but that means nothing. If something is 2D animated. It is a cartoon. Period. Want more proof? Look up the definition of an animated cartoon, its laughable to claim they're not. The fact that its drawn, colored and animated makes anybody that says any different sound like an idiot. Tigers are vastly different from house cats yet tigers ARE cats. It's the same with anime and cartoons. The saying " All anime are cartoons but not all cartoons are anime" holds true. That's the same as " All tigers are cats but not all cats are tigers". Any credible animation studio, company, cartoonist, and anime site ( such as this one) will agree. If anime and cartoons are 2 different things, then Algebra and Math are 2 different things. They're not, so you are in denial. I am a huge anime fan myself but I will not ignore the facts and say anime isn't a type of cartoon. Nor will I argue with a fact. ( Namely this one). It's just so stupid. |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
| Interesting... |
| What do you think you're piloting? Great Mazinger? Dangaioh? For Pete's sake, this isn't some robot cartoon whose main character is an autistic kid or some punk. - Kiichi Goto, Mobile Police Patlabor |
| Just say animation when referring to both. That way no one will argue with you. |
| "But ur a retard." ~Akito_Kinomoto |
| Let's ride the tea-cups. They go around in circles, too. |
| This belongs in a blog, inb4lock. A discussion topic would be: Are cartoons anime? And I think we already have a thread like that. |
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| I don't think many people argue that Anime is a type of cartoon more specifically, Japanese cartoons. People just don't want to compare Anime with other cartoons so they say this. I think people just don't want to lump Anime with other cartoons because many Anime are more sophisticated than most other cartoons. Cartoons also has the connection with something that is for kids and I'm sure that many Anime is not for kids as is some cartoons that is not anime but most cartoons that are not for kids are indeed Anime so people don't want to compare the two since a lot of the time, Anime and other cartoons are indeed very different. I don't know why it makes you mad though. This debate has been held many times before. |
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| well, if you put it that way.. I guess you're kinda right |
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| Dean would like to have a word with you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piEvBRH75N0 |
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| OP you have really entered the lion's den here. |
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| "To-may-to, To-mah-to." Call it what you want, doesn't change the immeasurable difference between Japanese and Western cartoons. |
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toybox said: Interesting... |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
DrGeroCreation said: OP you have really entered the lion's den here. Agreed. OP, you better be ready to back up your points, because the people of MAL will hunt you down. OT: So from what you're saying, that means I can call Spongebob an anime. I can also call K-On a cartoon. Correct? |
| Fight Club > Anime Scott Pilgrim > Manga Death Cab for Cutie > Yuki Kajura "Who'd you rather be? The Beatles or The Rolling Stones?" MY REVIEWS! READ THEM. http://myanimelist.net/profile/StillSwingin007/reviews |
| guess I'm on their side now It's not a comic book, it's "Manga" It's not a cartoon, it's "Anime" It's not homosexual, it's "Yaoi" It's not lesbian, it's "Yuri" It's not porn, it's "Hentai" It's not erotic, it's "Ecchi" It's not pedophile, it's "Lolicon" It's not gay, it's "Shōnen-ai" It's not slutty, it's "Fan Service" It's not a costume, it's "Cosplay" It's not a dating show, It's a "Harem" It's not a fetish, it's "Moe" It's not a bipolar girl, it's "Tsundere" It's not a drawing, it's "Doujinshi" It's not schizophrenic girl, it's "Yandere" It's not sexual aberration, it's "Eroguro" It's not a sex game, it's "Eroge" It's not Chinese, it's "Japanese" It's not Chinese animation, it's "Japanimation" Most Importantly... I'm not a geek, i'm an "Otaku." ~If you are a Proud Otaku, like this, and post it on your wall~ |
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StillSwingin007 said: If you are Japanese then you can call Spongebob anime.DrGeroCreation said: OP you have really entered the lion's den here. Agreed. OP, you better be ready to back up your points, because the people of MAL will hunt you down. OT: So from what you're saying, that means I can call Spongebob an anime. I can also call K-On a cartoon. Correct? |
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NeoAnkara said: StillSwingin007 said: If you are Japanese then you can call Spongebob anime.DrGeroCreation said: OP you have really entered the lion's den here. Agreed. OP, you better be ready to back up your points, because the people of MAL will hunt you down. OT: So from what you're saying, that means I can call Spongebob an anime. I can also call K-On a cartoon. Correct? Well, I'm not Japanese. |
| Fight Club > Anime Scott Pilgrim > Manga Death Cab for Cutie > Yuki Kajura "Who'd you rather be? The Beatles or The Rolling Stones?" MY REVIEWS! READ THEM. http://myanimelist.net/profile/StillSwingin007/reviews |
Cabron said: toybox said: Interesting... |
StillSwingin007 said: NeoAnkara said: StillSwingin007 said: If you are Japanese then you can call Spongebob anime.DrGeroCreation said: OP you have really entered the lion's den here. Agreed. OP, you better be ready to back up your points, because the people of MAL will hunt you down. OT: So from what you're saying, that means I can call Spongebob an anime. I can also call K-On a cartoon. Correct? Well, I'm not Japanese. neither am I, although I would like to be |
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| I can understand the whole "anime is a style" debate, but there is no way shows like The Simpsons and Spongebob can be considered anime using the definition we use here in America. Anime and cartoons are both animation, and anime is just Japanese cartoons. However, adding to the OP rant, you don't call house cats tigers, do you? In a way it's like that. |
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Forgetfulness said: Basically we don't want to call anime cartoons because we don't want people to call us childish for still watching cartoons.We don't differentiate anime and cartoons because we think they're different. I know that anime is a subset of cartoons. However, when you say the word "cartoon" I'm pretty sure almost anyone from the West will think of those immature shows for little kids. So in order to avoid the negative connotations, people prefer using anime. It's like in biology. Mutation and variation mean the same thing, but some people prefer using "variation" because mutation has a negative feel to it. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Forgetfulness said: Basically we don't want to call anime cartoons because we don't want people to call us childish for still watching cartoons.We don't differentiate anime and cartoons because we think they're different. I know that anime is a subset of cartoons. However, when you say the word "cartoon" I'm pretty sure almost anyone from the West will think of those immature shows for little kids. So in order to avoid the negative connotations, people prefer using anime. It's like in biology. Mutation and variation mean the same thing, but some people prefer using "variation" because mutation has a negative feel to it. Nice point. A lot of anime fans are even ashamed of liking anime, in fear that people would criticize them for it. |
| Fight Club > Anime Scott Pilgrim > Manga Death Cab for Cutie > Yuki Kajura "Who'd you rather be? The Beatles or The Rolling Stones?" MY REVIEWS! READ THEM. http://myanimelist.net/profile/StillSwingin007/reviews |
| RWBY is anime. Deal with it. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. Finally, Weiss is tsundere. Hnnnggghhh |
| Click on this. I dare you. | MAL Fantasy Football League | Currently Watching List RWBY Club. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. |
DarkShards said: I don't think many people argue that Anime is a type of cartoon more specifically, Japanese cartoons. People just don't want to compare Anime with other cartoons so they say this. I think people just don't want to lump Anime with other cartoons because many Anime are more sophisticated than most other cartoons. This is exactly what I was just about to waste a few seconds writing. And OP, you sir need to RELAX. |
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| I like how you idiots try to speak for the majority of anime fans. The reality is the only reason most anime fans hate cartoons cause it isnt made in Japan. You people tend to forget that of out of the thousands of anime out there there are only a handful that are any decent. ^This tool's sig speaks for itself. |
Forgetfulness said: True however not all cartoons are childish.DrGeroCreation said: Forgetfulness said: Basically we don't want to call anime cartoons because we don't want people to call us childish for still watching cartoons.We don't differentiate anime and cartoons because we think they're different. I know that anime is a subset of cartoons. However, when you say the word "cartoon" I'm pretty sure almost anyone from the West will think of those immature shows for little kids. So in order to avoid the negative connotations, people prefer using anime. It's like in biology. Mutation and variation mean the same thing, but some people prefer using "variation" because mutation has a negative feel to it. Pretty much, because not all anime is childish. |
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Forgetfulness said: Well anime doesn't have as much restrictions as cartoons. If a cartoon has too much of a complicated plot then kids might not like it or get bored. American cartoons have the potential to be as good as anime but American censorship keeps them from reaching their true potential.DrGeroCreation said: Forgetfulness said: True however not all cartoons are childish.DrGeroCreation said: Forgetfulness said: Basically we don't want to call anime cartoons because we don't want people to call us childish for still watching cartoons.We don't differentiate anime and cartoons because we think they're different. I know that anime is a subset of cartoons. However, when you say the word "cartoon" I'm pretty sure almost anyone from the West will think of those immature shows for little kids. So in order to avoid the negative connotations, people prefer using anime. It's like in biology. Mutation and variation mean the same thing, but some people prefer using "variation" because mutation has a negative feel to it. Pretty much, because not all anime is childish. Yeah, but I think you'll find more anime that stop and take the time to tell a decent plot than in cartoons. |
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Rinshansan said: <Could care less about my post>-replies to my post. Well shit. Implying my post was directed @ you, i used your sig to prove a point nothing more.IceBurn said: I like how you idiots try to speak for the majority of anime fans. The reality is the only reason most anime fans hate cartoons cause it isnt made in Japan. You people tend to forget that of out of the thousands of anime out there there are only a handful that are any decent. ^This tool's sig speaks for itself. Pretty sure the mad one is you. Opinions exist for a reason and your pseudoelitist objectivity is meaningless to me. I care not if I'm the only one on my side because I know all too well I'm in that boat. Either way, could care less about your post. Also, read my fucking post. I did not say I specifically hate cartoons, I only said not all cartoons are anime. Cry is free. |
IceBurn said: I like how you idiots try to speak for the majority of anime fans. The reality is the only reason most anime fans hate cartoons cause it isnt made in Japan. I would say that is false in most cases. Cartoons demographic is for the most part younger children. While a lot of anime deals with more mature matters. So yeah, relax there buddy. IceBurn said: You people tend to forget that of out of the thousands of anime out there there are only a handful that are any decent. So? IceBurn said: ^This tool's sig speaks for itself. Edgy |
an egomaniac and a fool |
| Anime is Japanese-style cartoon... Anime is cartoon but the style is differentiable from the usual west cartoon that people usually call as "cartoon" It's not a propaganda, it's a marketing strategy, so anime can have its own "brand" i think |
LevailRenn said: Anime is mainly directed at children and teenagers. Why do you think there are more shonen anime than seinen anime and shonen anime is more popular and more advertised than seinen anime?I would say that is false in most cases. Cartoons demographic is for the most part younger children. While a lot of anime deals with more mature matters. So yeah, relax there buddy. |
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1. Anime is aimed @, for the most part, children& teenagers. There are alot of cartoons that deal with mature matters as well. 2. It's like like picking small bit's of candy from a pile of shit and then praising the whole thing. 3.Very. |
| They are within the same realm - they are not the same things though. Your example actually goes to prove your point as wrong. Anime (in this context, being the shorthand for "Japanese Animation") is a form of animation, just like cartoons are a form of animation. While both fit under the umbrella of animation, they are not the same. Just like a tiger would not be considered a cat - even though it is a species of cat. Anime is not from the french, it's not from the Japanese, and it's not short for animation. The term anime in the specific context of Japanese animated shows is simply shorthand for "Japanese Animation" - it started in the 90s when people were unsure what to call it. First they called it fully as Japanese Animation, then Japanimation (which was a bit racist sounding, as Jap is derogatory slang, explaining why it didn't last long - plus it sounded fucking stupid), and finally they settled for just plain anime. Of course, this is only in reference to it's use outside of Japan, which means everywhere but Japan this is true when talking in this specific context. So, factually, "anime" in the context of what we're discussing here means nothing except very fucking specifically JAPANESE animation, because it's what the term is slang for. Etymology 101. This thread is dumb, made a billion times a day on every anime-related website, and also you proved yourself wrong right in your own post. The rest of this thread is also full of stupid shit, but whatever. |
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| They are two entirely different things, but still of the same kind. |
| Lolis > Everything |
| I am right. ALL anime ARE cartoons but not all cartoons are anime. Anime ARE cartoons. But they are not Western cartoons. If it is animated it is a fking cartoon. PERIOD. Anime ARE cartoons and tigers ARE cats. There is no debate abou this its a goddamn fact. Don't argue a fact. You're not gonna win. They are NOT different. Everyone agrees anime is a type of cartoon but you two. Even the straw man agrees anime is a type of cartoon. Just stop acting like a weeaboo and accept the fact that anime ARE cartoons but al cartoons are not anime. TD all you want but it won't change FACTS. Why the hell do you think nearly everybody else accepted the FACT that anime are cartoons. |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
| ^ why are you angry? |
HamtaroYesMyHam said: I am right. ALL anime ARE cartoons but not all cartoons are anime. Anime ARE cartoons. But they are not Western cartoons. If it is animated it is a fking cartoon. PERIOD. Anime ARE cartoons and tigers ARE cats. There is no debate abou this its a goddamn fact. Don't argue a fact. You're not gonna win. They are NOT different. Everyone agrees anime is a type of cartoon but you two. Even the straw man agrees anime is a type of cartoon. Just stop acting like a weeaboo and accept the fact that anime ARE cartoons but al cartoons are not anime. TD all you want but it won't change FACTS. Why the hell do you think nearly everybody else accepted the FACT that anime are cartoons. I'd like to ask you, what aspect of anime and cartoons is the argument you are making in this topic? From what I read in your childish post, it is mostly just about naming the medium, anime and cartoons all fall under the medium of animation. It is true that somehow non-Japanese otaku always hate it when anime is referred to as cartoons, it is understandable. But things only go wrong when anime fans think that anime should not be called cartoons because they think anime is better than cartoons. Which is not true because Western cartoons are technically superior in most aspects except for style which is subjective and is what anime fans like. This is where the bulk of the argument between anime and cartoons is at. But if the argument here is the name of the medium, then the most respectful way to call any form of animated media is to call it an animation. Anime, cartoons, animated films, 2D, 3D, stop-motion, all of them fall under the medium of animation. |
| I don't get why people get so fussed over calling anime cartoons... they kind of... are cartoons and they're certainly not as mature as everyone makes them out to be, save for a few, which don't even compare to some shows and Movies if you compare them. They're all aimed at teenagers like myself and probably you. That's not to say I don't love my anime but I also enjoy some cartoons, like my family guys and my futuramas... It's just a word and nothing to rage over, it's all opinions =) |
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