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Dec 19, 5:27 AM
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Pretty much the type of episode you'd expect between the two sides.

Freya has earned a reputation with her forces at this point that it was just inevitable this would happen. So much aggressive attitude this episode and Bell got caught into this too. Poor Bell getting knocked into the ground. This is just the beginning of what we're seeing his challenge to overcome this season again.
Dec 19, 5:28 AM
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Well it was obvious they were going for a cliffhanger but it's a really intense one.
The episode was intense enough in itself but with the cliffhanger we know we have a lot more to come.
Anyway the healers clothes burning except her underwear is a miracle but what can i say it was still safe.
As for the others there were some nice battles going on.
Dec 19, 5:49 AM
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Is anyone else sick and tired of the Freya Familia? They’re like those types of rich kids who grow up thinking they are untouchable and then become criminals because they think they are untouchable
Dec 19, 6:32 AM
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Hedin really irks me
Dec 19, 6:47 AM
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Wow allied armies really cant match the power of Freya familia.
As usual cliff hanging. Bell surpassed Ottar in level however physical fights, Bell stands no chance.
Dec 19, 7:24 AM
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That was some outstanding lack of anger from the alliance. The 99% of the alliance was just there for the group activity. Have all the info about how they are in disadvantage, know the leaders, know that they have a OP healer. And decide to suck their thumbs, and not go for the literal kill. Now probably some of them are dead.
Dec 19, 7:44 AM
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lol they stand no chance against freya famillia what now even bell is defeated by ottar
Dec 19, 8:02 AM
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Episode is well adapted. They maybe cut down on some of the dialogue and made the fights shorter but that's maybe not a terrible thing. I would have liked for the Crozzo Magic swords output to look more spectacular and impressive, they looked a bit mid here and they're supposed to be an absolute cheat code.

@ajw215799 I completely understand you. Specially Allen is an insufferable POS. But patience is all I'll say.
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Dec 19, 8:49 AM
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BlichoBoy said:
That was some outstanding lack of anger from the alliance. The 99% of the alliance was just there for the group activity. Have all the info about how they are in disadvantage, know the leaders, know that they have a OP healer. And decide to suck their thumbs, and not go for the literal kill. Now probably some of them are dead.

No, it's a rule. They can't kill each other.
Dec 19, 8:50 AM
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deg said:
lol they stand no chance against freya famillia what now even bell is defeated by ottar

well he is MC so we all know he is not going down like that.
Dec 19, 8:51 AM
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Farabeuf said:
Episode is well adapted. They maybe cut down on some of the dialogue and made the fights shorter but that's maybe not a terrible thing. I would have liked for the Crozzo Magic swords output to look more spectacular and impressive, they looked a bit mid here and they're supposed to be an absolute cheat code.

@ajw215799 I completely understand you. Specially Allen is an insufferable POS. But patience is all I'll say.

Ln reader?...........
Dec 19, 9:19 AM

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lol they stand no chance against freya famillia what now even bell is defeated by ottar

well he is MC so we all know he is not going down like that.
@_Sanchay i know but based on the op bell will need help to fight ottar
Dec 19, 9:20 AM

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Holy shit, even with the numbers disadvantage, Freya familia still able to dominate the combined might of Orario. That’s insane. Considering everything we went through last season with the juggernaut it makes you wonder how things would’ve gone if it was Ottarl down there or Hedin because Bell getting thrown around like a damn rag doll.

Pretty convenient that Heith’s shirt stayed on just enough to cover her nipples after getting burned off lmao. This author loves giving girls the craziest outfits to fight in like last season with Ryu.

All things considered for this to be her first major battle command, Lili is doing a damn good job! She’s shown a lot of poise in the face of some adversity. Gonna be interesting to see what help Bell gets next ep.
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Dec 19, 9:27 AM

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Heith's boobs!! 😍



Tsubaki's boobs!! 😍

Dec 19, 9:27 AM
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Lili's strat was a curious one but the only one that was viable given the feared combat ability of Freya familia. Been waiting ages to see Heith's resurrect scene and man this was perfectly animated and voiced by Ikumin. Nice to see Tsubaki get some limelight as well. Not to mention seeing Bell's many friends encounter and engage Freya's elites across the field. Damm Bell lost quite dramaticly against Ottarl. Still overall an excellent ep that showed well why Freya familia's elites are worth their status and accolades.

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Dec 19, 9:41 AM

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I thought we could atleast handle those NPC-looking ones but Heith just made everyone a zombie lol.

Bell really took care of Van so quickly, and of course the same will happen to him against Ottarl, we'll need some assistance for that.

Next episode title is Asteria Records, Ryu is coming!?
Dec 19, 9:51 AM

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Fabulous,wow

the best episode of the season, no time to blink an eye

Bell Cranel getting his ass kick like a baby, damnnnn
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Dec 19, 10:09 AM
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Aversa said:
Well it was obvious they were going for a cliffhanger but it's a really intense one.
The episode was intense enough in itself but with the cliffhanger we know we have a lot more to come.
Anyway the healers clothes burning except her underwear is a miracle but what can i say it was still safe.
As for the others there were some nice battles going on.

yeah and change of her personality in 180°.
Dec 19, 10:19 AM
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I have been waiting Ottarl since the beginning of the series, finally The King makes his entrance...
Dec 19, 11:16 AM
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_Sanchay said:
BlichoBoy said:
That was some outstanding lack of anger from the alliance. The 99% of the alliance was just there for the group activity. Have all the info about how they are in disadvantage, know the leaders, know that they have a OP healer. And decide to suck their thumbs, and not go for the literal kill. Now probably some of them are dead.

No, it's a rule. They can't kill each other.

On both sides or just the alliance’s?
Dec 19, 11:30 AM

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Liliruca's planning was as good as she could make it out to be, but her best efforts were not enough to handle the might of the Freya Familia.

The hide & seek was anything but that as everyone in the Freya Familia simply stayed in one spot, awaiting for their opponents to arrive before the battle truly got underway. Tsubaki, buffed up from Haruhime's level boost, did put up a good fight against her opponent, but it wasn't enough for her to win. Seeing Heith in combat, both in terms of healing power and combat skills despite what little there was left of her clothing was impressive. It's a shame that she spat out utter trash from her mouth to insult her opponents, which is another reminder as to why everyone in the Freya Familia needs to taste defeat.

Sadly, with the way things are going, that isn't happening. Bell made easy work against Van, but against the likes of Ottarl, he should little chance. I do like how Ottarl gave Bell a chance to hit him with everything he had out of respect, but after that, Bell got destroyed. It was also a fitting way to end the episode on a cliffhanger, with Bell's side needing a miracle to turn things around.

Overall, this was a tense, but great episode. =)
Dec 19, 11:34 AM
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Meep777 said:
_Sanchay said:

No, it's a rule. They can't kill each other.

On both sides or just the alliance’s?

both sides. they can be physically injured by each other but not gonna die while fighting.
Dec 19, 11:35 AM
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_Sanchay said:
Meep777 said:

On both sides or just the alliance’s?

both sides. they can be physically injured by each other but not gonna die while fighting.

Oh ok Cus excerpts from the novel make it sound like some characters are actually trying to like burn others to death with the Crozzo swords
Dec 19, 11:52 AM

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This episode was pretty nice. The way how it was handled and done. Dude that is pure scary. Freya’s Familia is literally no joke. Especially once you have a strong healer who can fight. Then the mightiest or strongest adventurer along with the other level 5-6 executives. They rival an army in the thousands. Bell literally had no chance against Ottar. That Adventurer is just. Whole new level. More like 2 levels. Guy is level 7 if I remember correctly. And Bell just only recently reached Level 5.
Dec 19, 12:43 PM

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Intense episode.
lv 5 vs lv 7...
Game over.

Same thoughts. lmao
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Dec 19, 1:22 PM
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Farabeuf said:
Episode is well adapted. They maybe cut down on some of the dialogue and made the fights shorter but that's maybe not a terrible thing. I would have liked for the Crozzo Magic swords output to look more spectacular and impressive, they looked a bit mid here and they're supposed to be an absolute cheat code.

@ajw215799 I completely understand you. Specially Allen is an insufferable POS. But patience is all I'll say.

Ln reader?...........
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Dec 19, 1:30 PM
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my boy bell is getting cook actually by ottar
Dec 19, 2:18 PM
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Hopefully freya family wins and bells story gets more interesting , Hestia family can still be his friends but the freya family is more fun 🤩
Dec 19, 2:21 PM

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this is what happens when you have too many cooks in the kitchen. Freja went with a unified attack with clear delineation of hierarchy while the alliance was just a free for all of milk drinkers all doing their own thing and totally disorganized. Also very disappointing animation.
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Dec 19, 2:46 PM

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same ol same ol kinda fight. no surprises here.
Dec 19, 3:45 PM

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Heith's boobs!! 😍



Tsubaki's boobs!! 😍

@Elysett Support roles that double up on being able to hold their own (and being hot)? What doesn't the Freya familia have?
Dec 19, 3:53 PM

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Wonder how Ottarl gets defeated. Bet it's some lame asspull...
Dec 19, 5:16 PM
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ajw215799 said:
Is anyone else sick and tired of the Freya Familia? They’re like those types of rich kids who grow up thinking they are untouchable and then become criminals because they think they are untouchable

I was going to post the same thing! I can’t stand an opponent who is virtually impossible to beat plus the whole bunch are smug a-holes.
Dec 19, 5:57 PM
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How is not in the strategy giving bell a LVL UP, and if they will do it later, I don't see the point of him having his ass kicked before using it.!
Dec 19, 6:28 PM
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I think this was the best episode of this season in my opinion. There was tension, strategy, broken expectations and Bell in trouble

It started with Bell's allied army going to Freya's base, but they were soon surprised by that pink-haired girl(Holy shit, what a strong girl, she literally took down about 20 people there by herself), then we had other fights and Bell going to ottarl

Bell vs Ottarl was humiliating, Bell even having strength equivalent to Ottarl, he does not have the same physical ability to execute. It's so much so that in that first attack between the two, Bell was thrown to the wall but Ottarl remains intact because of his high physical potential. Not only physical potential, but ottarl is also more experienced and skilled. I want to see how Bell will come out of this fight...because so far he is being massacred and humiliated in many ways.

This episode was really good, it just needed a better soundtrack, the sounds of the explosions were always cut because they were too fast, an example of this is the impact of the first ones attacks by ottarl and Bell, the anime cut the explosion scene. I was also bothered by the way the characters move on the battlefield, they look like robots lol
But... despite that, it was still a good episode.

Episode 4/5
Dec 19, 6:51 PM
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Why would anyone need to be told to stop and enemy casters incantation? Do they think they might be casting something to help the opposing team or is everyone just a big fan of poetry?

Anyway, for Bell's part, it looks like the current skill/power gap between Bell and Ottarl is bigger than the one between Bell and Asterius in their last fight. I don't know if Bell could have even won with a max charged, sneak attack Argo Vesta AND a level boost.

He's absolutely gonna need a team to pull this out. Ais or a level boost Ryu would be nice. Better yet, both with Level boosts.
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Dec 19, 7:18 PM
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Well I wish we could have gotten more of Bell versus Ottarl after all the buildup to it, but I’m guessing there probably wasn’t much to see besides Bell getting schooled lol, and the real meat of their fight is yet to come I’m guessing so I can forgive it.

The War Game itself has been a lot of fun so far too, as expected a lot of the allied forces are getting jobbed for underestimating Freya’s Familia, but the big players are putting up a fight thankfully, it’s just unfortunate we already saw Tsubaki get taken out by Mr. Edgelord, and the pink haired twintail healer of Freya’s Familia doubling as a combatant knocked out several strong guys at once, you know you’ve got it bad if even the healer is throwing hands, wouldn’t be upset if I got beat up by a half naked babe tho lol.

But all the losses on the allied side has me looking forward to seeing how they make a comeback, I know it’s gonna feel extra good when it happens.
Dec 19, 9:53 PM

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Well, we knew Freya familia was strong and has a lot of high level adventurers but watching them just tear through the alliance's folk was straight out depressing.

Why are the inn's cat people not joining in? Surely that sister is angry at her idiot brother? Things are pretty exciting but also scary!

Dec 19, 10:58 PM
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glad to see they didn't just win with the power of friendship and got smacked. curious to see how they'll get out of this, but I have high hopes it will be earned
Dec 20, 1:54 AM

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Bell hit 'em with that yamete kudasai lmao. Of course we gotta make the situation look grim first before we have the protags come on top lol.

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Dec 20, 3:41 AM
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Meep777 said:
_Sanchay said:

both sides. they can be physically injured by each other but not gonna die while fighting.

Oh ok Cus excerpts from the novel make it sound like some characters are actually trying to like burn others to death with the Crozzo swords

well they are, in ep 11 they burnt the Healer girl but she healed herself back.
Dec 20, 4:16 AM

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bell got demolished by my guy ottarl, well i was expecting to, lezzgoo freya famillia lolol
Dec 20, 4:20 AM
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_Sanchay said:
Meep777 said:

Oh ok Cus excerpts from the novel make it sound like some characters are actually trying to like burn others to death with the Crozzo swords

well they are, in ep 11 they burnt the Healer girl but she healed herself back.

So then it’s not so much a rule as it is how things turn out?
Dec 20, 7:38 AM

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Well I fully expected this episode to be horrible and it did not disappoint.
Dec 20, 8:41 AM
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So like why is literally all members of the goddess of loves familia entitled bullies with a sadistic streak? Anime tends to put things on its head but this is an 180 that have me scratching my head in confusion.

I know the main underlying plot is a heroic struggle against impossible odds like in a classic greek myth but this is nearing immature fantasy pillow of shame territory.

Anyway, still gonna keep watching 'cause they'll probably get back to the dungeoneering at some point.
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damn the fights felt rushed asf, but I guess tehy just trying to get to da point.

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Dec 20, 1:55 PM
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As expected, this episode and arc, as well as the whole season, is as laughably bad as I knew it would be. Anyone who actually thinks this is decent is so stupid, it's just pathetic at this point. What complete and utter wasted potential of an otherwise decent franchise to destroy itself so ineptly with a single season.
Dec 20, 2:02 PM

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The alliance really got beaten at every single step of the road. But thats not a surprise with Lilis early chatbot levels of planning.
They knew the Freya familia from the inside thanks to bell, yet they did not set up any counters. Level 5 bell is supposed to defeat a level 7 Ottarl alone? Were they really stupid enough to not even give their strongest fighter a power up?! This anime was always incredible wasteful with its level up ability, but this easily takes the cake.

I really wonder what kind of deus ex machina BS will turn this around.
Ryu alone would not be enough, and I expect her to come.

Honestly I wonder why not more gods decided to ignore the guilds rules. I mean Freya mind controlled everyone and she doesnt even get scolded, obviously the guilds rules are just a joke. So might as well ignore them entirely.

Really absolutely everyone in Freyas Familia is an asshole, wow.
That beeing said.. I kinda like their dedication. Most of the other characters feel like they are playing around, these guys properly dedicate themselves to their goddess.
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Bel and his friends are having a really bad day
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nhkam said:
ajw215799 said:
Is anyone else sick and tired of the Freya Familia? They’re like those types of rich kids who grow up thinking they are untouchable and then become criminals because they think they are untouchable

I was going to post the same thing! I can’t stand an opponent who is virtually impossible to beat plus the whole bunch are smug a-holes.

No your wilding out , freya family is better than hestia family
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