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Apr 27, 11:58 AM
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Sometimes there are shows that overall are bad, ok, good or even great, but then they have a 1-5 episode section, scene or plot point that is so above and beyond how good you consider the rest of the show to be.

I'll give my own examples so you can see what I mean:

The fist 4 episodes of nomad: megalobox is a masterpiece to me, but the show as a whole is a solid 8.

Same with the 2 "inside outed" episodes of id invaded.

And I wouldn't call this a masterpiece level section, but the first like 4 episodes of magia record season 2 were so fucking good. I think the show as a whole is painfully mediocre, but for a short time it was doing so so amazingly.

So what are your examples of something like this happening?
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Apr 27, 12:11 PM
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Eromanga-sensei is average, but OVA episode 1 is a masterpiece, because of Yamada Elf's excellent stage performance.
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Hibike Euphonium is great, but I wouldn't consider it a masterpiece. Liz to Aoi Tori on the other hand is one of if not the best anime film made to this date.
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APolygons2 said:
Sometimes there are shows that overall are bad, ok, good or even great, but then they have a 1-5 episode section, scene or plot point that is so above and beyond how good you consider the rest of the show to be.

I'll give my own examples so you can see what I mean:

The fist 4 episodes of nomad: megalobox is a masterpiece to me, but the show as a whole is a solid 8.

Same with the 2 "inside outed" episodes of id invaded.

And I wouldn't call this a masterpiece level section, but the first like 4 episodes of magia record season 2 were so fucking good. I think the show as a whole is painfully mediocre, but for a short time it was doing so so amazingly.

- Binbogami ga
The bath episode, 10/10 comedy gold ep. in a 6/10 show

- Black Clover
Has it's ups and downs thruout the show, some arcs are breathtakingly amazing while others feel like a snail has taken comand

- Gankutsuou
Starts of slow, is a masterpiece for the most part, falls off a lil at the end

- JoJo part 3
Any scene with Iggy + the singapore eps

- Jujutsu Kaisen
-- s1
Most of second half
-- s2
Eps 16-17

- Mahou Shoujo Site
Magical underwear... nuff said

- Naruto
Like Black Clover, has it's ups and downs

- Noir
Started off like a masterpiece but fell off past the half way point

- Shimoneta
Fly sex-ed... i hate this show but i kid you not i have lived thru this scene irl in highschool
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jujutsu is watchable only when nobara is on screen, the rest is literal shit
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From what I'm saying, a lot of people think that Oshi no Ko's first episode is the only peak part (Eh, opinions. I love the whole thing, but my opinion is equally as invalid, so oh well). My choice personally is the first Lupin III. The second half of that anime is almost completely golden, but the first half is just so boring that it destroys any chance of this getting masterpiece status.
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Apr 27, 2:15 PM
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The "masterpiece moments" in Liz and the blue bird
Liz and the blue bird is hands down the most boring anime film ever made and rated high cause it's by
Apr 27, 2:18 PM
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Hibike Euphonium is great, but I wouldn't consider it a masterpiece. Liz to Aoi Tori on the other hand is one of if not the best anime film made to this date.
@billybub That's certainly one of the takes of all time 👀
U rather a film with the most forgettable pair of characters than Kumiko and gang
Apr 27, 2:26 PM
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Eromanga-sensei is average, but OVA episode 1 is a masterpiece, because of Yamada Elf's excellent stage performance.
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100% agreed there. I gave ova 1 a 10.
My other choice is the Haruhi movie.
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The "masterpiece moments" in Liz and the blue bird
Liz and the blue bird is hands down the most boring anime film ever made and rated high cause it's by
@Cestlavie_ you gave SnK season 3 a 10 and have NGNL in your favorites. Shoo
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@Cestlavie_ you gave SnK season 3 a 10 and have NGNL in your favorites. Shoo
@billybub I am 100% proud of those scores
They put that boring blue bird movie to shame.
And plus u have that cgifest spider anime and K-on in ur favorites are u truly one to talk?
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the thought crossed my mind during the early episodes of Ousama Ranking. But then it turned into a trainwreck.
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Monster is a very good soap opera when Eva Heinemann is on screen, and a horrible murder mystery otherwise.
I also only finished Akame ga kill for Esdeath. I was not worth it, I took psychic damage from that anime.
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For how much I don't like the Hunter x Hunter 2011 anime when I first saw it and still feel the same way now, the Yorknew portion was fantastic. Too bad the Greed Island arc and Chimera Ant arc completely killed momentum for me completely, but that is a decent chunk that I loved in an anime I would rate around a 4.

Another show I can think of is My Dress Up Darling. The show is very average to be polite, but there were one or two moments that stood out to me that were pretty special and better than a lot of romance anime I saw with one of those being the scene at the beach between Marin and Gojo, which was so well directed and atmospheric and completely immersed me out of nowhere. Without those one or two moments, my score would definitely be a lot more negative and given that I'm reading the manga, the source material isn't very promising either. So I do feel like that came out of nowhere, in a good way I guess.
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Gintama up until the Farewell Arc was great. The things after that... not so much.
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Sword art online had a really great first two episodes and then wow
Tokyo ghoul season one had two great episodes, the first one and the last one.
There's one episode of Space Dandy in particular that's high fantasy at it's finest and the rest are a mixed bag.
Gon vs Pitou episode 131 of HxH is so good
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The very beginning of the movie Phoenix 2772 (with the baby).

The battle halfway through Wanpaku Ouji no Orochi Taiji. The final battle is far less exciting.

The last arc of Air.

The last episode of Platinum End.

The last episode of Zodiac War. It can be watched as a standalone, as the manga it's based on was actually written before the rest of the story.
https://myanimelist.net/manga/88354/Oogiri

The end credits to the movie Toki no Tabibito: Time Stranger. The song has [English] lyrics that relate to the story.

I am sure there are more examples, but I can't think of any at the moment.
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Apr 27, 9:49 PM

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The finale of Code Geass is the easy answer here, everything leading up to it was an absolute train wreck, but somehow it managed to stick a very impressive landing.
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Episode 7 of 18if. It's an episodic series and even like 6 years later moments from episode 7 still pop out to me.
Apr 27, 11:00 PM

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@Cestlavie_ you gave SnK season 3 a 10 and have NGNL in your favorites. Shoo
@billybub

I genuinely want to know what was the goal here. Cause picking two of the most beloved things in the anime community among both casual fans and critics to roast someone, isn't winning you any favours from outside perspective.

and is sure as hell not going to hurt that guy's feelings. If anything it only makes YOU look worse. So I want to know what was the goal here. did you just say this for yourself?

Cause the other guy has seen 1,000+ anime, there were more than enough actual examples if you wanted to roast their taste.

here let me show you:


@Cestlavie_


Angel beats is just cry porn with a messy plot, some of the episodes are solid enough as stand alone plots, but a 9 is absurdly high. You've seen death parade, you know what the concept would look like if it was actually done well.

The only thing angel beats has over it is comedy.... which I don't think would be the reason you gave it a 9.


but that's just the start of it, there is a far bigger crime at play here, then we have to get to the fact that, somehow the absolute artistry and amazingness that are anime like perfect blue, made in abyss, be a 7/10, which would be bad enough on it's own, but then you rated dog water or mediocre shows like mirrai nikki (including the dog shit ending ova), Tomodachi game or Sabikui Bisco with the 7/10.

You really looked the 2 frames per episode ass, forgettable music ass, poorly directed ass, poorly paced ass, with subpar character ass, and just ass in general tomodachi game and thought "yes this deserves to sit next to perfect blue"?


@billybub

see? now If someone looks at that from outside perspective, they're going to be like, yeah maybe the other guy does have shit taste.




@Cestlavie_

oh and no hard feelings, your taste is fine (mostly), I was just making a point here.


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Shirou vs Archer in Fate Stay Night: UBW. The series was pretty good, the franchise as a whole is solid, but Shirou vs Archer was peak.

The Doll House arc and the Bloodstained Labyrinth arc in Ghost Hunt are the 2 best "horror" moments I've experienced in anime, in fact, I don't think anything else come close. The show as a whole was good.

Yuzaki Nasa had some really good moments in Tonikaku Kawaii, like the one where he said
"In this world, even the most scientific of things started from someone having this gut feeling it exists. Then someone proved it after the fact. So compared to you, I know absolutely nothing about her... But I intend to spend my entire life proving my love. I didn't marry her because I proved my love. I married her to prove my love"

and become one of my favorite characters of recent, but then most of the show he's just a little bland, just a little.

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The concept of OreImo is gross but you can't deny it's very fucking interesting. In terms of execution, I'd say it's a masterpiece. Ero Manga-sensei is garbage through and through.
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APolygons2 said:
@billybub

I genuinely want to know what was the goal here. Cause picking two of the most beloved things in the anime community among both casual fans and critics to roast someone, isn't winning you any favours from outside perspective.

and is sure as hell not going to hurt that guy's feelings. If anything it only makes YOU look worse. So I want to know what was the goal here. did you just say this for yourself?

Cause the other guy has seen 1,000+ anime, there were more than enough actual examples if you wanted to roast their taste.

here let me show you:


@Cestlavie_


Angel beats is just cry porn with a messy plot, some of the episodes are solid enough as stand alone plots, but a 9 is absurdly high. You've seen death parade, you know what the concept would look like if it was actually done well.

The only thing angel beats has over it is comedy.... which I don't think would be the reason you gave it a 9.


but that's just the start of it, there is a far bigger crime at play here, then we have to get to the fact that, somehow the absolute artistry and amazingness that are anime like perfect blue, made in abyss, be a 7/10, which would be bad enough on it's own, but then you rated dog water or mediocre shows like mirrai nikki (including the dog shit ending ova), Tomodachi game or Sabikui Bisco with the 7/10.

You really looked the 2 frames per episode ass, forgettable music ass, poorly directed ass, poorly paced ass, with subpar character ass, and just ass in general tomodachi game and thought "yes this deserves to sit next to perfect blue"?


@billybub

see? now If someone looks at that from outside perspective, they're going to be like, yeah maybe the other guy does have shit taste.




@Cestlavie_

oh and no hard feelings, your taste is fine (mostly), I was just making a point here.



Yh no hard feelings I don't mind, but in all fairness, when rating Perfect Blue, I'm not thinking about what I gave a forgettable anime like Bisco at the time I'm thinking of how much I enjoyed it compared to other Satoshi Kon films like Millennial actress and Tokyo Godfathers.
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Carole & Tuesday started with a wonderful world building, but it lost gas pretty quick.

Ep. 19 from Kimetsu no Yaiba was a masterpiece, but, in my opinion, the rest was a borefest.
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I won't call Code Geass an actual masterpiece but that ending is definitely my favourite of all time

Oshi no Ko EP1 was really amazing, with great direction, yeah the rest didn't live up to the expectations but it's still a decent show

The first 4 episodes of Shield Hero made me think this show had a chance to be an actual masterpiece of an isekai

Attack on Titan specifically Season 3 Part 2 was done super well

In the first arc of Bungou Stray Dogs S2, Osamu Dazai's past wasn't what I expected, but it's the type of story I really love and appreciate

Kaguya S2 EP11, Ishigami's past was super well-written and changed my view of the show (wouldn't call the show a masterpiece but it's close as it could be for a rom-com)

Don't remember which arc was it, but it was in Magi S2, truly underrated

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I really loved the first two seasons of Shakugan no Shana but the third one was such a letdown for me.
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The first and last episode of To your Eternity

Bungo Stray Dogs - first 4 episodes of 2 season. Sakunosuke story was really good.

86 - First 4-5 episodes because of the very dynamic and good narration.

And Sung Jin-Woo vs Hwang Dongsuk party. Best moment in Solo Leveling
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Mushoku Tensei S1 pt 1 and silent voice

-it has a great opening but the rest isn't as good. Silent voice is still an objective masterpiece tho


BTOOOM!

-Ending made me tear up a bit despite only being an unfinished cliched battle survival with unlikable characters



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As much as I like Code Geass, the ending is awful.
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Watamote's transition to the OP in episode 10

Nagi no Asukara episodes 14-25 (had 26 ended the series better, I would have rated the entire thing a 10)

Bocchi the Rock up to episode 8

Oshi no Ko episode 1

Girls' Last Tour episode 6; the transition to ED in episode 5

The visuals of The Garden of Words

Code Geass soundtrack

Odasaku's arc in Bungo Stray Dogs

Naruto Shippuden's Pain Arc

Gold Kingdom, Water Kingdom's worldbuilding

Demon Slayer - Daki and Gyutaro fight

The Liz and the Blue Bird performance in Sound Euphonium: Chikai no Finale
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Two comes to my mind. (The spoilers are only here to separate them.)





I didn't finish Aldnoah.Zero yet, but I can see from here that it'll get a low score from me
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1 Of the recent ones I remember is Ragna Crimson. A pretty good first extra long episode, much better then the rest of the show combined.
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Muumindani no Suisei's last 10 minutes. The movie is an 8/10 because it drags quite a bit and some parts could have perfectly been removed, but the ending, the ending is so beautiful.



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I think Dororo might be like that. I have heard some people speak really badly of the show, and even drop it, but I think the last 4 or so episodes are genuinely amazing. I would say the rest is still good but not as good as the finale, but then again its not like you can remove the buildup to the finale and still have the finale hit as hard so it's probably not a good answer overall.

If we are limiting ourselves to shows that are probably bad, I think Spiral is a good candidate, the first say 6 episodes are so much better than the last 12. It's still not quite what I would call a masterpiece but the contrast is stark.
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Gundam seed
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Shirou vs Archer in Fate Stay Night: UBW. The series was pretty good, the franchise as a whole is solid, but Shirou vs Archer was peak.

The Doll House arc and the Bloodstained Labyrinth arc in Ghost Hunt are the 2 best "horror" moments I've experienced in anime, in fact, I don't think anything else come close. The show as a whole was good.

Yuzaki Nasa had some really good moments in Tonikaku Kawaii, like the one where he said
"In this world, even the most scientific of things started from someone having this gut feeling it exists. Then someone proved it after the fact. So compared to you, I know absolutely nothing about her... But I intend to spend my entire life proving my love. I didn't marry her because I proved my love. I married her to prove my love"

and become one of my favorite characters of recent, but then most of the show he's just a little bland, just a little.

@ToG25thBaam agree, their entire relationship was the most interesting thing in the show to the point that after their fight ended I lost interest in the show, not because it wasn't good but because the Archer plotline was too good
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Episode 13 of Princess Tutu. The scene where Tutu dances the duet alone is just incredible. If there was a compilation movie or something that just focused on the Swan Lake stuff of the first half of the series, I would probably give it a 10. But the series spends way too much time and energy, like breaking the 4th wall twice an episode for no real reason, on a meta plotline that doesn't have anything interesting to say.
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Re zero season 1 had quite lot of masterpiece parts. Since it was non stop torture porn. But I say season 2 felt like a drop off. So people saying re zero is the best anime of all time largely refer to season 1
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Episode 8 of Steins Gate 0 was so good that it ended in my top 3 favorite episodes of the series!!!

The rest???

Yeah...

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Episode 8 of Steins Gate 0 was so good that it ended in my top 3 favorite episodes of the series!!!

The rest???

Yeah...

| wish i forgot it existed...
@Hitagi__Furude 0 has a lot of good moments.

I mean as a whole it also has a SHIT TON of issues. But the reawaken scene alone gave me a wave of emotions that had never felt before, and haven't felt since.

Honestly everything from that scene until the end was really good, even if the exact episode before that was the dumbest shit i have seen.
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Turning Point 2 in Mushoku Tensei. The rest of the show is really good as well but that one episode is on another level.
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Is this one of these rare bad Threads, you were talking about?^^

You didn't ask a single question - again.
You just told us about some Episodes that you, personally, really liked

Uhm...Thanks.
You didn't even bother explaining why....."fucking good" was enough, I guess.
We should just take that, nod and agree in here? :)
Just asking.


But at least people take it on themselfes just talking about their favorite couple of Episodes.
So that...worked....

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Merve2Love said:
You didn't ask a single question - again.


It's almost as if the question is self explanatory.

Merve2Love said:
at least people take it on themselfes just talking about their favorite couple of Episodes.


You are an actual fucking idiot
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Is this one of these rare bad Threads, you were talking about?^^

You didn't ask a single question - again.
You just told us about some Episodes that you, personally, really liked

Uhm...Thanks.
You didn't even bother explaining why....."fucking good" was enough, I guess.
We should just take that, nod and agree in here? :)
Just asking.


But at least people take it on themselfes just talking about their favorite couple of Episodes.
So that...worked....

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Sorry to bother all of you, and getting you a little involved in some random argument.

I just want to know, was there anyone here, who didn't understand what they were meant to reply with, to this thread because I didn't specifically ask "what are your examples of this?", or was that self explanatory?

Like were you at all confused about what you were meant to comment.?

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I just wanted to give my examples and why do I think that.
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@APolygons2 Seemed pretty clear to me. I would have had no issue asking you to clarify if I thought I needed it.
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I understood the purpose of this thread based on the original post to be a discussion of exceptional moments and parts in series that stands far above the rest of the material. That being said, Merve2Love has not been rude enough to justify a response of "you are an actual fucking idiot". Between this and the fact you pinged me of all people does come across as a bit too...self-conscious, I think?

Calm your boobs, my dude. You are being WAY too aggressive based on what little I have bothered to read.

OT: The moment in Monster that I will always remember will be Tenma training with the man and his adoptive daughter. I think that for all the revelations and intrigue, that this is an incredibly pivotal moment for Tenma as a character. I think Monster is a good enough adaptation, but this moment was truly special.



It was also the episode that introduced me to the idea of doubletapping.
PeripheralVisionMay 21, 8:06 PM
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