Seattle BLM protesters demand white people ‘give up’ their homes

Only_Brad said:
Is the mediabiascheck gang asleep?

SargonTheGreat said:
Wow its like if you dont stand up to someones threats they will threaten you more! wowzers i never knew that

Bob-o-Dominador said:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/24/did-blm-activist-demand-white-give-up-homes/

The only thing that I found besides sketchy looking web sites was this, are you guys sure you didn't fall to fake news against the protests of this year?

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
lol that desperate to defend the blm terrorists eh? Why are you linking something from 3 years ago. Not surprised they do this all the time considering they actually think they will get reparations.

SargonTheGreat said:
Nah they are wearing masks probably because of corona

Bob-o-Dominador said:

Not even Fox News is talking about it even tho it would make their audience go ape shit, It seems like some one took a thing that happened in the past and is pretending that it is happening now, I wouldn't be surprised that you didn't tryed to look for many sources or didn't care since you are so deseperated to make every social movement look bad that you where even bashing Nasa. Also, reparations is just figthing social inequality and everyone knows that, do you have anything against figthing social inequality?

Kayle_x_Morgana said:


Wait you are serious? All slaves are dead from a million years ago /end of discussion of why they should get it.

Also I read the hilarious articles about reperations all the time. plan was talked about was 12 trillion. 1 in 5 Americans support reperations was also said in that article.
LMFAO

Bob-o-Dominador said:
They are dead but the kids of slave owners are still beneffiting from the slavery.
Reparations don't need to be done in a short time frame or in it totality and get easier to be done each year since decresses in wealth inequality makes for a healtier market (that is the main reason why I want them).
How many American agree with a thing don't have anything to do with it being rigth or wrong (Also if you change the phrasing it would change the scores too)

Kayle_x_Morgana said:


lol benefit? Benefit or hard work? I guess white people can't do hard work cause of that "white privilege" they have right?

Another site I saw said 30% support reperations. SO.... never going to happen.

Reperations were suppose to be for slaves. Not some BLM clowns crying about being oppressed.

Bob-o-Dominador said:

Not even Fox News is talking about it even tho it would make their audience go ape shit, It seems like some one took a thing that happened in the past and is pretending that it is happening now, I wouldn't be surprised that you didn't tryed to look for many sources or didn't care since you are so deseperated to make every social movement look bad that you where even bashing Nasa. Also, reparations is just figthing social inequality and everyone knows that, do you have anything against figthing social inequality?

Bob-o-Dominador said:

yep, did some changing key words and looked deeper, found a Whashington Times article about it https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/13/black-lives-matter-crowd-demands-seattle-homeowner/

With that out of the way the 2017 fact check still have good info in why they are made and tho literally given homes up isn't viable the sentiment is valid and reparations are needed, I really wouldn't take a movement actual objectives from a catchphrase alone anyway.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:

Reperations were suppose to be for slaves. Not some BLM clowns crying about being oppressed.

traed said:
While I find some of the views of the people there moronic idpol, gentrification is a real issue many people face. It's not the fault of the home owners though but trying to get other homeowners to get involved isn't a bad thing just I don't agree with the racial focused aspect of their goal since what matters is a persons family history in the area not their skin colour.


New York Post, Fox News, and The Wall Street Journal are all owned by Rupert Murdoch.



That's just as bad of a source as the one in the OP.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-times/


Reparations means different things to different people so don't write it off by hearing the name alone. Not all the forms are retarded and racist.

Bob-o-Dominador said:

Also, reparations is just figthing social inequality and everyone knows that, do you have anything against figthing social inequality?

Ryuk9428 said:


@Kayle_x_Morgana

You ever notice how leftists always pretend to be centrists/moderate until they say something absolutely batshit insane and then they expect you to act as if this is a normal, moderate position?

Leftists are constantly moving the goalposts when it comes to what a progressive is and what a moderate/centrist is. They literally think Kamala Harris is a moderate which is terrifying.

At least I don't pretend to be a moderate/centrist, I straight up admit I'm hard right.

Ryuk9428 said:


You ever notice how leftists always pretend to be centrists/moderate until they say something absolutely batshit insane and then they expect you to act as if this is a normal, moderate position?

Auron_ said:

It is not batshit insane to make the simple observation that, statistically, people tend to stay in the social and economic strata they were born with. Most people born poor will die poor (unless they're particularly resourceful) most people born wealthy will die wealthy (unless they're particularly stupid). There is not much upwards economic mobility in the system. And until only 50 or so years ago, there were laws and practices put in place that greatly stifled the wealth and capital attainment of black people (such as Jim Crow laws, redlining, segregation), and before that they were literally subjected to slavery with zero capital power. And given that, even if no explicit racism existed since then (which it did), there would still be a great disparity by virtue of simple statistics and mathematics as intergenerational poverty would persist. Now, it makes sense to me, that given there exists a handicap that black people have to endure that they had no fault in the creation of, there should be an active attempt to neutralize that handicap.

deg said:

err MAL officially uses mediabiascheck thats why people like me point it out

--ALEX-- said:


Or do you think a few crazy idiots speaks for EVERYONE?

Here’s what I like about this type of “my team vs the other team” mentality.

When the other team has a few crazies, the ENTIRE “team” is crazy.

When YOUR team has a few crazies....it’s just a few bad apples...NOT ALL WHITE people are racist!

Ranacchi said:
Would be better to start building more houses. America's got plenty of space to do so. Not only would it benefit those unable to find a place, it also creates jobs for those in need of one.

Auron_ said:
This speech to me looks more of a figurative one than a literal "gib me your house now!" trying to bring attention to the gentrification hurting the residents of those neighborhoods. But it comes off as ridiculously accusative and self-defeating as those white people are literally just trying to live, which then unfortunately further alienates and divides, hurting the leftist cause. Most people will not look past your presentation, even if the ideas themselves when inspected with good faith are sound and just. That's why optics are so very important, let's not forget that.



@Kayle_x_Morgana

It is not batshit insane to make the simple observation that, statistically, people tend to stay in the social and economic strata they were born with. Most people born poor will die poor (unless they're particularly resourceful) most people born wealthy will die wealthy (unless they're particularly stupid). There is not much upwards economic mobility in the system. And until only 50 or so years ago, there were laws and practices put in place that greatly stifled the wealth and capital attainment of black people (such as Jim Crow laws, redlining, segregation), and before that they were literally subjected to slavery with zero capital power. And given that, even if no explicit racism existed since then (which it did), there would still be a great disparity by virtue of simple statistics and mathematics as intergenerational poverty would persist. Now, it makes sense to me, that given there exists a handicap that black people have to endure that they had no fault in the creation of, there should be an active attempt to neutralize that handicap.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:

Thankfully you all here are in the 30% who support it.
They'll just blow all the money on new cars and shoes and other useless bullshit anyway.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:


The reparations bill is for slave descendants.

So all the poor oppressed black folk who weren't decedent's get 0 money. Those are a small% I believe. Also when all those people grow a brain and realize they won't be getting their free money.... then what? More riots until another bill comes in that says ALL black people get money?

Na-kyum said:
https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-white-people-give-up-their-homes/

Here's a video of the protesters: https://twitter.com/KatieDaviscourt/status/1294122205215780864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1294122205215780864%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html1294122205215780864

Monochrosanity said:
This. I don’t understand how some people can’t fathom that past racist laws and actions are still having ramifications today.

Auron_ said:

Now, it makes sense to me, that given there exists a handicap that black people have to endure that they had no fault in the creation of, there should be an active attempt to neutralize that handicap.

Groyper said:

That doesn't mean that white people need to give there houses and property to black people.
Would you give your house to some random black person because slavery existed over 160 years ago? Yeah I didn't think so.
There is a difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
Not only do black people have all the equal right as white people they also have help from the government in terms of affirmative actions, all the corporation are shelling money for them, both political parties are banding over backwards to please them, they have mainstream media on their side again they are not oppressed.
There is nothing holding them back aside from poor decision making and bad life style choices.

Auron_ said:


@Kayle_x_Morgana

It is not batshit insane to make the simple observation that, statistically, people tend to stay in the social and economic strata they were born with. Most people born poor will die poor (unless they're particularly resourceful) most people born wealthy will die wealthy (unless they're particularly stupid). There is not much upwards economic mobility in the system. And until only 50 or so years ago, there were laws and practices put in place that greatly stifled the wealth and capital attainment of black people (such as Jim Crow laws, redlining, segregation), and before that they were literally subjected to slavery with zero capital power. And given that, even if no explicit racism existed since then (which it did), there would still be a great disparity by virtue of simple statistics and mathematics as intergenerational poverty would persist. Now, it makes sense to me, that given there exists a handicap that black people have to endure that they had no fault in the creation of, there should be an active attempt to neutralize that handicap.

Auron_ said:


That post you quoted isn't us talking about this Seattle event. It's about giving a rationale on funding predominantly black communities and neighborhoods. If you want what I thought of this incident, here post #30 of this very thread, the first paragraph. Now don't try to misrepresent my words thank you.

@Ryuk9428 This is a non-response. I presented you my case on the need for funding black communities and their neighborhoods as a way to counteract the historical handicap that exist by lifting them out of disproportionate poverty and having more productive people in general thanks to adequate education. You provided nothing but irrelevant blabber.

@JFuji Yes I completely agree that tracing back to what degree which particular person were affected and whatnot is dumb as hell and would be too costly that could've gone to actual people instead. I'd not advocate for that, what I'm talking about is more general stuff like funding their education (since public schools are funded by the taxes of that particular region poor neighborhoods will have inadequate education which begets more poverty), healthcare benefits, or even absence of disproportionate policing on stuff like drugs compared to other races and a priority on reincorporating people into society and not damaging that community by making more and more people live without a father would go a looong way.

Edit: And I disagree with the propositions on your second paragraph about it being a self-fulfilling prophecy. I wish it was because that'd make the solution a lot easier but unfortunately it isn't and many of the data back this up. You see, individual advice about making the most out of the hand you're given is fine, but that shouldn't be all there is to it. I'd commend people for trying to give individual black people advices to circumvent the issues but in the big picture that doesn't make the issues go away so there should also be a large scale reformations on the legislative side of things as I said.

Are you talking about the gif? And do I know you? I'm more of a shota than daddy but ok I guess :P

Silverstorm said:
Don't forget that wonderful Homestead Act, sharecropping regime, and the wonderful GI Bill-- we could name more (Black Laws) but wanted to comment cause your post and cause there's Ryuk's: talking about "Leftist always moving goalposts" when after your post to Kayle showing their error in reasoning, they shift stances to "Well they don't deserve it cause they'd spend it frivolously". I mean, if this was a real life conversation, you couldn't make this comedy up lmao!!
I'd @ them but I don't want to exchange in frivolous defensive banter.

GoldandBlack said:
Private property is inalienable right to believe that you're entitled to the labor or property of others is to believe that that person is your slave.

SargonTheGreat said:
Nah the capitalist pours his own money into his business so that he can purchase materials and labor to make his business idea come true, It usually takes alot of time, money and effort for a capitalist to start a business and even then there is a huge risk of going out of business and being left with nothing. meanwhile the worker has pretty much nothing to worry about because he can just abandon ship if it goes under and he will not lose any money

traed said:

Yeah capitalism is all about being entitled to other people's labour that's what a capitalist business is some guy on top taking proffit from other people's labour. It's wage slavery. To top it off gentrification means to push people out of their property by making living there not affordable for them anymore due to predatory real estate and development practices.

Auron_ said:


Thanks comrade I'm still learning about US history and was pretty sure there were more, but yeah it is rather laughable I'm basically writing for the onlookers who might be on the fence at this point.

@Ryuk9428 Yeah and that's why black people make only a fraction of the average income white people have right? Oh right people should be able to have proper education regardless of class which will grow the economy what a radical stance we got. And friend what you're describing sounds more like the Overton Window shifting more to the left doesn't it? Look at the Congress and how more and more progressive and anti-establishment people are winning, the momentum that people like Bernie and AOC stirred unto motion is going on and you can call it delusional all you want but it's clear what is gaining popularity and who is adamantly trying to deny it.

Ryuk9428 said:

I'm not denying at all that the US is moving in a more progressive direction. I'm just saying that its a massive mistake and that Americans are delusional and don't understand how a society is run anymore because the university system doesn't give people a real education anymore, it gives them ideological indoctrination.

Ryuk9428 said:

Black people continue to fail because their culture promotes bad behavior. Black single motherhood rates are at 70% now and in the poor areas are often as high as 90%.

Ryuk9428 said:
Blacks commit at least half of all the crime in the country despite only being 13% of the population which would indicate that they are committing violent crimes at approximately 9 times the frequency that white people are.

This is despite the fact that statistics often lump white people and hispanics into the same category and hispanics commit a lot more crime than white people do. So in reality, the disparity is probably even higher than 9x.

Ryuk9428 said:

West Virginia has one of the highest poverty rates in the country and yet their violent crime rate is lower than most US states. Black people are only in poverty at twice the prevalence that white people are which means that even if you adjusted for poverty, blacks still commit 4.5x as much violent crime as white people do.

Bob-o-Dominador said:
@Ryuk9428

See this is why Republicans are freaking out right now. Because half of the Democrat Party at this point has moved far left and you guys don't even realize it because of the echo-chamber you've created for yourselves. You guys suggest ideas that are absolutely insane and don't even realize how insane they sound because your party has legitimized and made them mainstream.

Ah, yes, the extreme far left idea of public healt care, so "insane" that it have been implemented in the vast majority of the world (and the best parts of it) and it is working in all of them, that is what you are afraid of?

How is the idea of implamatating that politc "insane"? To me it only seems that you are so deep inside YOUR eccho chamber that you just assume that the opposition ideas are wrong by default, hell you didn't even argued with me you just called me "insane".

Face reality: Almost every country in the world have bouth left and rigth politcs, your ideal society where there is basically none social assisntence is the extreme, but having bearly enogh to keep people alive isn't. Far left would mean things like communism, Services being runned by coops, high UBI, dismantling of Private Institutions and so on.

If "I don't want to be as good as death because of my unpayble medical bills" was far left them everyone would want to be far left, I don't have fault that your political ideologies are basically feudalism.

Ryuk9428 said:
I didn't say anything about healthcare, I said racial reparations is extreme.

Ryuk9428 said:
Its very simple Auron.
Progressive policies and ideas create single motherhood.
Single motherhood creates crime.
Crime creates poverty.