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Mar 20, 2019 3:43 PM
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I've noticed that there isn't an anime that has a score of 8.5+, actually, currently there isn't any with 8.4+ either?

Let's see s few of them
Currently:
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari:8.39
No Game No Life: 8.38
Re:Zero: 8.38
KonoSuba season 2: 8.37
Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken: 8.34
KonoSuba season 1: 8.18
Overlord season 3: 8.18
Youjo Senki: 8 13
Overlord season 1:8.08
Log Horizon season 1: 8.07

Of course there are many others yet, but none of them has 8.4/8.5+ score, most of them is even below 8

Why do you think is that?
What can't isekai animes get a higher score?


PS: let me know if I've missed something
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Mar 20, 2019 3:45 PM
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Some of them don't even deserve to have an 8+, imho.

Moreover, why do you think some of them should be 8.5+, since you opened the thread?
Mar 20, 2019 3:45 PM
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The real problem here is that there shouldn't be any isekai above 8 at all.
Mar 20, 2019 3:46 PM
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Because too many people hate everything with isekai "genre" even if its really good they won't put high *. Personally I also don't know why that many people hate it, I love isekai genre(with fantasy combination) mostly.... I can say just one for sure you will see too many answers here "why it should have that much score" "it doesn't deserver to have even 7" or other types of comments ....
Mar 20, 2019 3:48 PM
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Obviously because they're not good enough.


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Mar 20, 2019 3:56 PM
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maybe because they suck big time,imho digimon adventure is the best iseki.
Mar 20, 2019 3:59 PM
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I mean tbf there's only a 100 or so shows in general that are >= 8.5 so it's not like it's something common. Re:Zero I think was sitting on 8.52 for some time

But really I'd say it's because there hasn't really been any breakthrough isekai show. Shield Hero started off great but now it's slowly falling into sasuga isekai levels of isekai, and Re:Zero the MC probably took away a few points

But I agree Conception should be at least 9.00 rating
Mar 20, 2019 4:01 PM
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Actually I'm quite surprised with how high rated they are lmao. A 6-7 would be already high enough for basically any of them lol.


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Mar 20, 2019 4:11 PM
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1 - I think that they are high enough in most cases, only Konosuba and escaflowne (show that you missed) should be higher imo.
2 - The genre get a lot of hate by some trolls or mentally challenged people.
3 - You also missed Ima soko ni iru boku.
Mar 20, 2019 4:16 PM
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There's 110 entries have scores higher than 8.5
There's around 15600 entries on MAL
that makes it 0.7% of MAL entries having a score higher than 8.5
AniDB lists 76 entries with Isekai tag
One of them is Spirited Away which is on the 19th spot of the MAL rankings with 8.91
around 76/15600 makes it around 0.49% of MAL entries to be isekai

now the question is why there aren't many of these 0.49% entries of MAL on that top 0.7% of MAL entries
ain't much hard to deduct an answer from this
it's not like 8+ are low scores anyways
it's not like being below 7 means their scores are low
it's not like scores in general really matter
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Mar 20, 2019 4:17 PM

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8.3 is still a high score btw .
also who cares as long as you enjoy them .
Mar 20, 2019 4:20 PM

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Spirited Away is 8.91, what're you talking about?
Mar 20, 2019 4:22 PM

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Who the fuck cares about MAL score... People literally make fake accounts and rate the score a 1 or a 10 because it's they don't want a certain show to be highly rated or because they want their favourite show to be a higher score.
Mar 20, 2019 4:26 PM

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It's funny that Shield Hero, Re Zero, KonoSuba, Overlord and Youjo Senki are much better than Erased (8.54) and Violet Everboring (8.61).
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Mar 20, 2019 4:31 PM
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I think people just give bad scores to Isekai just because they’re Isekai and I don’t get that at all, maybe I’m lucky but I’ve watched many Isekai in my anime lifetime and for the most part I’ve enjoyed them all, people should get that Isekai is literally a genre now and accept the fact that Isekais can be good
Mar 20, 2019 4:33 PM
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Sachyan said:
Actually I'm quite surprised with how high rated they are lmao. A 6-7 would be already high enough for basically any of them lol.

You haven’t watched Konosuba at all have you
Mar 20, 2019 4:57 PM

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LoganMcClure21 said:
Sachyan said:
Actually I'm quite surprised with how high rated they are lmao. A 6-7 would be already high enough for basically any of them lol.

You haven’t watched Konosuba at all have you


I did, and it's probably the best of them all, that's why I gave it a 6/10. A good show indeed, but nothing that blow one's mind. A 8 (80%)+ is reserved for the things I consider really the best animanga has to offer, I mean, it has to be astonishingly great. I can't think rn of an isekai that truly fits this requirement.


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Mar 20, 2019 5:01 PM

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While isekai anime have a ton of popularity behind them, and become one of the most popular anime every season. Isekai anime aren't very good imo, and come with a lot of dumb tropes that obviously target a certain audience. They aren't very well rated because they're not THAT good honestly, and most of them are way too high rated but thats another discussion.

Shield hero sucks btw
Mar 20, 2019 5:18 PM

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They still have >8 though? Welcome to the CGDCT fandom and enjoy the despair of finding an average rating of >7.5 a huge relief.
Mar 20, 2019 5:18 PM

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Mostly because a lot of them aren't that good.
Mar 20, 2019 5:24 PM
Probably because high scores are only reserved for such masterpieces as "same joke repeated 70000000 times but the franchise comprises 43% of all shows rated 9.00 or higher" or "generic drama movie with no above average features except good art"
Mar 20, 2019 5:27 PM

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Define isekai.
Stains;Gate can easily fall into category, because jumping between worlds is common occurrence there.

Also, Fate/Zero is an isekai

Mar 20, 2019 5:37 PM
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Aren't those scores way too high for them already?
Mar 20, 2019 5:46 PM
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Sachyan said:
LoganMcClure21 said:

You haven’t watched Konosuba at all have you


I did, and it's probably the best of them all, that's why I gave it a 6/10. A good show indeed, but nothing that blow one's mind. A 8 (80%)+ is reserved for the things I consider really the best animanga has to offer, I mean, it has to be astonishingly great. I can't think rn of an isekai that truly fits this requirement.


When I say this I don’t mean it as an insult but you are a harsh critic, I looked at all the anime you watched and the majority were scores 5 and below to anime’s that I’ve seen many people enjoy so very much, so my question is, what anime do you consider a 7 or a good series
Mar 20, 2019 5:53 PM

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Lets just ignore spirited away and NGNL 0 i guess
Mar 20, 2019 5:58 PM

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BourBon-7so said:
8.3 is still a high score btw .
also who cares as long as you enjoy them .
This. So simple as this lmao. Scores above 8 are pretty decent already imo but i don't really give a shit about overall scores, like he said, as long as you enjoy what you watch, that's what matters the most.
Mar 20, 2019 5:58 PM

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Juuni Kokuki the best one (by far) have only 8,12.
And Ima Soko ni Iru Boku is under 8...

There are all overrated in comparaison.
Mar 20, 2019 6:02 PM
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Lets just ignore spirited away and NGNL 0 i guess

NGNL 0 is not an isekai in any shape or form.
Mar 20, 2019 6:21 PM
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Maybe because the way that isekais present themselves are polarizing, and to be 8.5+ (a show that is amongst the best that anime has to offer) means getting both a lot of fans in addition to having very few haters.
If you're asking why people don't rate it higher to make it above an 8.5, then its simply because its not worth that rating. If it isn't enjoyable then why rate it high? And if you think that it should be rated higher just because YOU thought it deserves higher, then fuck you for making a thread just to tell everyone that your opinion is right and everyone has to like the same shows you like, that's just not how opinions work.
tldr; it deserves around that much and OP is just complaining because the shows HE likes aren't getting good ratings.

PS. Because its a thread about isekai, I'll put my opinion out there as a non-fan.
a. It lost most of its originality, reusing recycled settings that are like everything else, but this time we added X. That's like if I were to write a manga called two piece, but instead of the pirate king he was becoming the thief king. If it isn't plagiarism then it certainly isn't interesting.
b. It lacks literary merit. School teaches to analyze works of literary merit, presenting universal themes that can be analyzed. In good shows, even SoL, there is some message. Often these are about family and learning to accept others around you, but they say SOMETHING. I don't see that in boring "comedy" that relies on being the most perverted or memelord/hip/trendy person. Things like making tsunderes a meme came at the expense of comedy in anime; now writers will just run with it as something that will sell even if its stupid and unfunny. I watched the 1st episode of slime at a friend's recommendation, and I will never trust him again.
tldr; Its unoriginal and unfunny (I think it is unintelligent humor, not about jokes and comedic timing, but about saying the dumbest and most popular thing at the time)
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Mar 20, 2019 6:23 PM

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Konosuba is comedy genius and deserves 10/10.
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Mar 20, 2019 6:45 PM

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I watched the 1st episode of slime at a friend's recommendation, and I will never trust him again.

Slime has a very slow start and the first episode is basically a list of infodumps explaining the RPG mechanics of the show, which is hardly what the show is about. Not like I want to sell it as a masterpiece (it's around a 7 to me) but its particular take on isekai is not exactly present from the very beginning and the kind of personal journey the MC takes on is not exactly evident in this early stage. Your friend probably expected you to not be so overdramatic at a first episode.
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jal90 said:
DangoDa1kazoku said:
I watched the 1st episode of slime at a friend's recommendation, and I will never trust him again.

Slime has a very slow start and the first episode is basically a list of infodumps explaining the RPG mechanics of the show, which is hardly what the show is about. Not like I want to sell it as a masterpiece (it's around a 7 to me) but its particular take on isekai is not exactly present from the very beginning and the kind of personal journey the MC takes on is not exactly evident in this early stage. Your friend probably expected you to not be so overdramatic at a first episode.

Tbh I forgot Slime was even an isekai until I rewatched the first few episodes with a buddy of mine last night. So much ground is covered that you forget the dude even came from earth lmao


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Mar 20, 2019 7:41 PM

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not enough thematic depth, and creativity along, they aren't that impressive (at least i haven't seen one before)

Mar 20, 2019 7:44 PM

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I personally don't like isekai animes, but aren't 8+ already too high?
Mar 20, 2019 8:31 PM

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8 is really a high score.. Most of them are not even "good" (7) ...
Simply put, MAL score is not really matter, and you even asked too much of it ...
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Mar 20, 2019 8:38 PM

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Well i gave Youjo senki Anime the score of 8 & The movie, i ended giving 10 since it was just phenomenal.



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Mar 20, 2019 8:40 PM
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If I remember back in 2014 when it finished airing No game No life did reached 8.81 MAL score that made me watch the show. So yeah there was isekai show once reached 8.5+ score.

Also based from the one of club (which tracks airing show's score) showed once SAO during airing reached beyond 8.5 MAl score.
Mar 20, 2019 8:44 PM

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It's because a lot of people think that isekai is an overused concept and that anything that uses it is automatically less superior.
Personally, I think it's overused and a lazy writing mechanic. That being said, I don't think any anime that uses the concept is inherently bad and I actually enjoy watching them.





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Mar 20, 2019 8:46 PM

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it's probably because this is MAL. Shield Hero is good, but it doesn't deserve to be above Re:Zero tbh
Mar 20, 2019 8:48 PM

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There is no Isekai anime that deserves to be rated that high. Infact, they shouldn't even be rated an 8 in general. Most of them are bad.
Mar 20, 2019 8:48 PM

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As far as a simple answer to your question: because people be hating.

As far as a non-jokey answer: Slime is pretty darn close to an 8.5 and it isn't even officially finished until this coming monday, so I wouldn't be surprised if that jumps up once everyone updates it to complete. Similar thing might happen with shield hero as well considering that show isn't even halfway done with its season yet.

I would also further state that given the bell curve that is mal scores tends to bulge most around the 6,7,8 range, you wind up needing both a lot of votes in general as well as a lot of 9s and 10s to make it average out to what you are wanting.

All that being said, however, does it really matter if an anime is rated 8.5 so long as you find it enjoyable? blah blah blah insert point about art being subjective thus making any objective number rating pointless blah blah blah you get the idea.
Mar 20, 2019 8:50 PM

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Rezero and ngnl would be rated above 8.5 of they didn't have 1 million or almost 1 million members
Mar 20, 2019 8:51 PM

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Isekai is overused and generic so any anime that implements it is bound to be cliche and not deserving of a high score.

In all seriousness, though, I'm sure it's possible to make a really good isekai just like how there was a really good time travel anime in the form of Steins;Gate, but no one has made it yet and people shouldn't overrate existing isekais just to pretend an isekai that good exists.
Mar 20, 2019 8:54 PM

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Them shits is trash? jk

Pretty sure Slime will though after the plot reaches a certain point.

Mar 20, 2019 8:59 PM
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MAL scores are irrelevant.
tfw one of my favorites can't even get a 7.5 ;-;
Mar 20, 2019 8:59 PM

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What are you talking about, Spirited away gets a 8.91 so i don't know why you'd count that one out
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The real problem here is that there shouldn't be any isekai above 8 at all.
*cough* Now and Then, Here and There *cough*
Mar 20, 2019 9:12 PM

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because none of them have a great story with consistent quality
Mar 20, 2019 9:15 PM

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Because the community has spoken as such!
Mar 20, 2019 9:24 PM

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Anything above 8 is too high for the modern day isekai wish-fulfillment fantasy anyway.
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