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Apr 1, 2017 5:25 PM
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Ha, Krillin saving ladies, kids, and helping the elderly as a police guy. Funny.
Not going to lie though, Krillin's solar flash is dope.

Krillin's gotta make 18 and his kid proud.
Seeing Goku go into Blue form was also a dope moment. Android 17 spotted? I can't wait to see his role in this arc.
Apr 1, 2017 5:30 PM
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Not bad Krillin, not bad at all. 17 tease and new ed, but more importantly....wtf was with Buu in the preview? XD
Apr 1, 2017 6:39 PM
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Wow... Krillin is back!
Apr 1, 2017 7:21 PM
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Man, that is what I and I think Dragon Ball fans want to see... Goku recognizing that Krilling is his best friend, 18 is a caring wife, Marron supporting his dad & mom but also calling Goku uncle, Gohan being nice to Marron... what I'm traying to say is that these cats have spent decades together and they need to act like family... Dragon Ball Super so far is doing this thing impeccably using past characters (minus Launch…. I want to see her)…

I seriously can’t wait for Gohan & Co. come up with tactics and of course seen then in battle without forgetting that most of those tactics are not gonna be used or effective in the Battle Royal, giving characters an opportunity for improvisation (character development in terms of fighting skills), next episode Majin Buu & past techniques and maybe new ones!?

New ED Rocks!
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I mostly found this episode annoying. First gohan gets blinded and looses to krillin, despite proving that he's perfectly capable of fighting while blind against lavender. SSJ blue continues to be trivialized as goku transforms just to fight krillin, a person he should by rights be able to reduce to a red paste with a single punch without having to resort to transformations. Not only that, but krillin actually holds his own in a kamehameha battle with blue goku, despite blue goku being somewhere in the region of a billion times stronger than him. Also krillin specifically says he can feel how strong goku is when he went blue, even though it's a god form and he shouldn't be able to detect any ki from him.

Overall a pretty bad episode. On the plus side, next ep seems interesting. Buu seems to have been burning them calories in a major way
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well that was a good episode and liked the ending as well
Apr 1, 2017 7:59 PM
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New ending :O

Solar Flare x100... It has to blind your soul as the technique itself isn't useless at all lol

As we can see, the Tournament will be more strategy-based rather than the usual fights we have seen until now. We could see more teamwork skills in both offensive and defensive aspects. I can imagine it :P

Next episode is kinda full of surprises, can't wait for it xD
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Apr 1, 2017 8:26 PM
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Skinny Buu?! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Apr 1, 2017 8:37 PM
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Sahaal_17 said:
I mostly found this episode annoying. First gohan gets blinded and looses to krillin, despite proving that he's perfectly capable of fighting while blind against lavender. SSJ blue continues to be trivialized as goku transforms just to fight krillin, a person he should by rights be able to reduce to a red paste with a single punch without having to resort to transformations. Not only that, but krillin actually holds his own in a kamehameha battle with blue goku, despite blue goku being somewhere in the region of a billion times stronger than him. Also krillin specifically says he can feel how strong goku is when he went blue, even though it's a god form and he shouldn't be able to detect any ki from him.


i agree that the power scaling is bad on the anime and it started in the Black Goku arc

im sure the manga version will have the proper power scaling shown again, just like what the current manga chapters are doing with the Black Goku arc

and Krillin never sense the God Ki of Super Saiyan Blue, he only sense the pressure from it just like future Trunks did

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That Episode was nice until Goku went SSJ Blue & from that moment onward was one facepalm after another, it's like they throw everything fans know about the anime out of the window & nothing matter anymore...

Kuririn power level no matter how much he trained can't even hope to reach Goku's power even in non SSJ1 state, I'm not talking for 2 & 3 & definitely not Blue were at that point the difference in power must be something like if we are talking about toughness must be like trying to scratch a M1A2 Abrams tank armor with a slingshot & resisting against Goku's kamehameha when in SSJB mode is equivalent for a normal human being trying to stop a nuclear missile with his bare hands...

Especially when I saw Kuririn pushing back his kamehame I can't describe how idiotic I felt was that moment, most likely the most stupid thing they have ever shown to us since the start of DB Super, if it was a parody episode then ok but are they fcking real with all that? it's like numbers, power levels, logic, nothing matter anymore, fck everything who cares...

Well fans care, because back in the DBZ days we knew that for example during the Frieza Saga Kuririn at his best his power was a bit over 100.000 when Goku at SSJ1 form was over 150.000.000, btw SSJ2 power level was over 2 billion & SSJ3 power level over 8 billion Kuririn even by the end of DBZ never ever reach even 1 fcking million... & now they have him fight equal & even pushing back Goku's kamehameha while in SSJ Blue mode ffs!!! that's beyond crazy...

Goku at Blue mode although there is no info at how high is his power when you consider that SSJ3 is over 8 billion & Beerus could 1-hit Goku on that state for fun then Blue must be something around 70-80% of Beerus power then we might talking for some completely crazy level it might be over 100 billions who knows & Kuririn was able to hold that power back with his mere 1 million power...

What did they go full r3tard mode in the studio they make this? because that's how it seem to me ~__~
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it's like numbers, power levels, logic, nothing matter anymore, fck everything who cares...


That's DBS in a nutshell it...
Apr 1, 2017 9:53 PM

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I heard about Buu getting a lot skinnier prior to this episode, still that face is too cheesy to look at xD

Krillin's sure got some helpful moves up his sleeves. I think if these are the ten members then they can get along very well. Also very excited to see No. 17 again for the first time in DBS.

I love the new ED, also love the fact that its dedicated to Bulma. The visuals are great too. We might be able to see some new and interesting characters next week.
Apr 1, 2017 11:02 PM

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Great episode.The Goku vs Krillin fight is a nice reminiscence of their younger days in tournament and i just love.
Next episode hype is so much and it seems like a lots happening in the next episode.
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That Episode was nice until Goku went SSJ Blue & from that moment onward was one facepalm after another, it's like they throw everything fans know about the anime out of the window & nothing matter anymore...

Kuririn power level no matter how much he trained can't even hope to reach Goku's power even in non SSJ1 state, I'm not talking for 2 & 3 & definitely not Blue were at that point the difference in power must be something like if we are talking about toughness must be like trying to scratch a M1A2 Abrams tank armor with a slingshot & resisting against Goku's kamehameha when in SSJB mode is equivalent for a normal human being trying to stop a nuclear missile with his bare hands...

Especially when I saw Kuririn pushing back his kamehame I can't describe how idiotic I felt was that moment, most likely the most stupid thing they have ever shown to us since the start of DB Super, if it was a parody episode then ok but are they fcking real with all that? it's like numbers, power levels, logic, nothing matter anymore, fck everything who cares...

Well fans care, because back in the DBZ days we knew that for example during the Frieza Saga Kuririn at his best his power was a bit over 100.000 when Goku at SSJ1 form was over 150.000.000, btw SSJ2 power level was over 2 billion & SSJ3 power level over 8 billion Kuririn even by the end of DBZ never ever reach even 1 fcking million... & now they have him fight equal & even pushing back Goku's kamehameha while in SSJ Blue mode ffs!!! that's beyond crazy...

Goku at Blue mode although there is no info at how high is his power when you consider that SSJ3 is over 8 billion & Beerus could 1-hit Goku on that state for fun then Blue must be something around 70-80% of Beerus power then we might talking for some completely crazy level it might be over 100 billions who knows & Kuririn was able to hold that power back with his mere 1 million power...

What did they go full r3tard mode in the studio they make this? because that's how it seem to me ~__~


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AnimeManiac4Life said:
That Episode was nice until Goku went SSJ Blue & from that moment onward was one facepalm after another, it's like they throw everything fans know about the anime out of the window & nothing matter anymore...

Kuririn power level no matter how much he trained can't even hope to reach Goku's power even in non SSJ1 state, I'm not talking for 2 & 3 & definitely not Blue were at that point the difference in power must be something like if we are talking about toughness must be like trying to scratch a M1A2 Abrams tank armor with a slingshot & resisting against Goku's kamehameha when in SSJB mode is equivalent for a normal human being trying to stop a nuclear missile with his bare hands...

Especially when I saw Kuririn pushing back his kamehame I can't describe how idiotic I felt was that moment, most likely the most stupid thing they have ever shown to us since the start of DB Super, if it was a parody episode then ok but are they fcking real with all that? it's like numbers, power levels, logic, nothing matter anymore, fck everything who cares...

Well fans care, because back in the DBZ days we knew that for example during the Frieza Saga Kuririn at his best his power was a bit over 100.000 when Goku at SSJ1 form was over 150.000.000, btw SSJ2 power level was over 2 billion & SSJ3 power level over 8 billion Kuririn even by the end of DBZ never ever reach even 1 fcking million... & now they have him fight equal & even pushing back Goku's kamehameha while in SSJ Blue mode ffs!!! that's beyond crazy...

Goku at Blue mode although there is no info at how high is his power when you consider that SSJ3 is over 8 billion & Beerus could 1-hit Goku on that state for fun then Blue must be something around 70-80% of Beerus power then we might talking for some completely crazy level it might be over 100 billions who knows & Kuririn was able to hold that power back with his mere 1 million power...

What did they go full r3tard mode in the studio they make this? because that's how it seem to me ~__~


It was indeed the most illogical thing to ever happen in DB but give the Earthlings an opportunity to shine xD It kinda pisses me off that Earthling warriors like Krillin or Tien never go beyond limits (as you said they don't reach the million) while in outer space you can find people that are even stronger than Frieza, no matter the methods. Someone in Earth was able to modify humans to the point they can effortlessly take down a basic SSJ1 (The Androids) yet the writers don't find a way to strengthen the Earthlings by other means xD
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Apr 1, 2017 11:56 PM

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They stretching episodes to much, choosing the 10 should take no more than 1 ep.

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Well, Krillin seems to be proving himself to be quite capable. We get a glimpse of 17 as well which was nice,

In response to a lot of posts above about the power levels being off, I stopped caring for power levels and logic long ago. I just take what I get now. XD
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AnimeManiac4Life said:
That Episode was nice until Goku went SSJ Blue & from that moment onward was one facepalm after another, it's like they throw everything fans know about the anime out of the window & nothing matter anymore...
It sounds like you didnt watch the episode at all. Goku said it himself that he had been misunderstanding the concept of the tournament the whole time, that's why he went Super Saiyan Blue. He was proven wrong when 18 joined Krillin, showing Goku that having brute power is the least thing you need in the tournament.
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Okay lets be honest we all wanted some Z fighters to be relevant again but this way ? i seriously doubt anyone wanted Krillin to fight SSB Goku like really ? Krillin can't hope to stand chance agiants base goku but now he can fight SSB somehow because he trained few months LAMO

the power level is mess they just wanted to give Krillin some spotlight i am suprised Goku didn't use kaio ken , i mean we must prove Krillin is badass right ? He's cool he can fight SSB goku

Bad episode
Apr 2, 2017 2:46 AM

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Wiat... did Krillin just rekt Gohan? World is gonna end for sure. :DD


Man, I really like sparing match between Krillin and Goku. IT was really good. :D

Can't wait for next episode. Ending was cool too. ;D
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Apr 2, 2017 3:22 AM

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I really liked this episode. Krillin became really awesome.

About that SSB Goku vs Krillin: Goku just wanted to show Krillin what kind of powers there are. Krillin did not stand a chance against Goku, obviously. Goku used a really weak kamehameha against Krillin, and he just kept rising the strength of that kamehameha to see how far he can push Krillin to his limits.

At least I hope that's what the creators thought. It's the only logical way, otherwise the power-scaling would be all over the place. I hope I am right...


Also, next episode is about Buu, eh? We got a new ED, featuring fat Buu, while next episode he'll be slim. So either they're going to change that ED, and even the OP next week, or Buu has a transformation instead of a constant form. Like SSJ form, but it'll be like super majin, or something like that.
Apr 2, 2017 3:24 AM

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Lol, people arguing about Power Levels again. You never learn, do you?
Apr 2, 2017 3:29 AM

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The new ED was great. The fight between Gohan and Krillin was good and also liked how Krillin uses strategy in his battle. Goku vs Krillin started well but having the SSJB Kamehameha being pushed back by Krillin's was a bit too much. At least Krillin lost his balance after that and almost lost his consciousness. Anyway, can't wait to see No.17 again. Also, what the fuck Buu?! It seems that Jiren will make his deput too.
Apr 2, 2017 3:49 AM

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Kuririn was really cool.
Apr 2, 2017 4:17 AM

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Lol, people arguing about Power Levels again. You never learn, do you?

Only in broad lines and even then just as Krillin implied. Power is useful but not the crux of this tournament. Heck, just look at how he ''defeated'' Gohan after the Taiyo ken. Momentum and martial arts.

But yeah, absolute numbers are a joke when you get sliced by a destructo disc or the likes. Which would probably be why all the major antagonist after the Androids got a regenerating ability. Unless your power is absolute, you can still lose through a well placed hit. But then the show would be over XD
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Apr 2, 2017 6:24 AM

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Krillin got some skills.
Apr 2, 2017 6:28 AM

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To everyone saying that power levels are irrelivent, it's not even power levels, just basic logic.

krillin << frieza << cell << base goku << blue goku

but somehow krillin can still contend with blue goku? Sure, why not.
Maybe next episode mercenary tao will come back to slap beerus around a bit. It's all good.
Apr 2, 2017 6:37 AM

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nice ep and was nice to see Kuririn do good and to see him even team with 18 , am looking forward to the next ep see how the interation with goku and 17 goes and so on

also love the new ending goes perfect with the theme of this arc
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Goku was definitely holding back. He only went SSJB to intimidate krillin to see if he was still scared of powerful opponents. He used more power whenever krill in did but only enough to beat him. No one said he was using full power. Can't wait to see buu transform
Apr 2, 2017 6:49 AM

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Wow production quality on point! If the whole tournament is like this, im gonna rate it 9!

So I just realized why they have "weak" earthlings enter the game:
They will say they are the strongest - enemy attacks will be very powerful from the start - they die - enemy gets disqualified. The end XD

Finally 17 is back, nice! I wish 16 would be still here..
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Good that they pointed out that Kuririn has much more fighting experience than Gohan, strength isn't everything!

This was a surprisingly good episode, the choreography during Goku and Kuririn's fight when he was dodging the Kienzans was good and having the fight in the rain with the rain being scattered around their aura and energy beams is something you never see in this series. Combine that with the small scenes of what their daily lives are like (still my favourite thing about this show) and it was quite enjoyable.

I also liked the new ED theme I was expecting something cheesy like Yoka Yoka Dance but it sounded more well put together than that, love the picture of Bulma with Goku and Kuririn at the Tenkaichi Budoukai, they actually drew kid Goku with his proper eyes instead of drawing him like Goten (even Toriyama draws him like Goten with his modern style)
Apr 2, 2017 8:34 AM

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Guys stop saying that krillin can fight against SSJB. If goku wanted to he would have ended the fight in 1 sec and 1 punch. He just wants to see what krillin can do when a difficulty appears in front of him, the only reason Krillin is in the team is because of the Taikoken which is a Super good move for a tourney like this, it is a Huge AoE ability that can give a huge advantage.
Apr 2, 2017 8:36 AM

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Krillin was pretty cool this episode never thought I'd use the word 'cool' for Krillin.

Oh so we're gonna see which warriors the other universes will be recruiting before the match starts, I thought they planned to mass introduce everyone at the tournament.
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Apr 2, 2017 8:42 AM

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damn krillin cheating Op bastard, he already haz best waifu now he can even resist goku ssj blue...
he should be main char if only for more n18 airtime.
Apr 2, 2017 8:52 AM
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Still i feel Goten & trunks are better than krillin or tien
Apr 2, 2017 9:02 AM

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If you see it this way, lets say u7 had 10 gokus, to be honest i would remove 1 goku and add 1 krillin just for that ability.
Apr 2, 2017 9:27 AM

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Some of that animation of Goku vs. Krillin looked really cool. So far, they've been doing a pretty good job with this arc. Dragon Ball Super might be able to redeem itself just a little if it keeps this up this level of quality.
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Still i feel Goten & trunks are better than krillin or tien


Rewatch their fight with Super Boo or their antics at the Martial arts tournament. They are strong, yeah. But impulsive, shortsighted and experience lacking.

Fighters like Piccolo, Tien and Krillin who have been lagging around for quite sometime learned how to fight smarter unlike the Saiyans who usually just brute force their way out. Besides, this is not a 1 v 1 damege output contest. Just look at it from a RPG view. The humans are the mages to the Saiyan warriors. 1 on 1 vs a Warrior a mage will lose, but use his as support and the Warrior on your control gets more options to strike.
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So at this point power levels are completely pointless and Super Saiyan transformations are like fashion statements, otherwise Goku was completely hellbent on killing his childhood best friend with that Super Saiyan Blue Kamehameha just to prove, that he's stronger.
I'm fine with that.

Other than that, while Krillin may look progressively more like Caillou in DBS, he atleast seems to have finally recovered from the trauma Raditz caused him by smashing him into the Kame House porch to the point where he is 23rd World Tournament Krillin again.

I'll give this episode a pass, though I wish they would finally stop fan servicing stuff and would just do something new. I mean 100x Solarflare, another time, where instead of coming up with a new technique, they just slap a Size-Bigger-Label on it.
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Just because Krillin was able to hold his own against Gohan and Gokou all you extremist fanatics are calling foul on every level. Give yourselves a break from your obsession with power levels ok because you're missing the point of what those fights were: a sparing match to test and measure not only Krillin's power but also his useful abilities in a battle royal. Gohan and Gokou weren't there to seriously beat Krillin, if they were then Gohan would've used SS1 as a means to see while blinded making Solar flare completely useless and Gokou should've used his Kamehameha like the one he used against Toppo that would take the entire Satan building down.
You all take this power level garbage too seriously. I know it's​ there and it serves a purpose but you guys are incapable of seeing a sparring match from a battle to the death if you're too caught up with it.
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I keep forgetting krillian is quite experianced in combat especially when he has OP players with him.

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Really liked that episode. It finally showed that the tourney isn't only about pure power but also about fight experience. Every person Goku wants on his team, maybe besides Gohan, has this experience. Especially people like Muten Roshi or Piccolo.

The fight of Gohan vs Krillin or Goku vs. Krillin was pretty cool. It showed that Krillin had some new tricks. He was so excited to fight against Goku :D

It's also right what C18 said. In this tourney you will not fight alone. I'm sure there will also often be situations where you fight with someone together. TEAMWORK!!!

I'm not sure about what happened to Buu in the preview :o
But now Goku searching for C17 will be interesting. Looking forward to the next episode.

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First gohan gets blinded and looses to krillin, despite proving that he's perfectly capable of fighting while blind against lavender.
The fight with Lavender was far longer allowing Gohan to use his other senses to track Lavendar while Krillin went for ring out almost immediately after using Solar Flare (Lavendar couldn't do that because there was no ring out in the exhibition matches and the battle field was far larger making it harder for a quick ring out even if it was allowed), Lavendar was going to kill Gohan while fighting with Krillin was just sparring, even before fighting Lavendar Gohan knew that he (Lavendar)and the other trio de dangers could completely mask their ki so after getting blinded he had to use his other senses like hearing because he knew he couldn't sense Lavendar's ki to pinpoint his location anyway. Gohan never expected Krillin to completely suppress his ki after using the times 100 solar flare hence why he lost. It wasn't a power level thing Gohan just underestimated Krillin and Krillin outsmarted him.

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SSJ blue continues to be trivialized as goku transforms just to fight krillin, a person he should by rights be able to reduce to a red paste with a single punch without having to resort to transformation
Goku never turned blue to beat Krillin but to see how he would react to it? Just a few episodes back Krillin was shitting bricks over illusions of guys like Tamborine and Nappa. Goku wanted to see if Krillin had the confidence to still go up against SSJ Blue and not just get scared and forfeit. It's a way to help Krillin build his confidence.

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Not only that, but krillin actually holds his own in a kamehameha battle with blue goku, despite blue goku being somewhere in the region of a billion times stronger than him.
Yeah and I'm sure Goku was going full out because it's not like he would suppress his power so as not to kill his best friend. Also it's not like Krillin's hands were shaking endlessly and he was about to pass out.
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It's a good day to be a Krillin fan. He's generally always been about using strategy to outmaneuver his opponents and catch them off guard, as showcased when baiting Nappa and surprise-attacking Recoome.

I thought the battle between him and Goku was amazing. The slow motion dodging of the destructo discs and Solar flare fake-out. Pretty fun overall.


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Also krillin specifically says he can feel how strong goku is when he went blue, even though it's a god form and he shouldn't be able to detect any ki from him.
He never said anything about ki but about pressure which is different.

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To everyone saying that power levels are irrelivent, it's not even power levels, just basic logic.

krillin << frieza << cell << base goku << blue goku
Oh my God in Battle of Gods Beerus knocked out Goku with just a hand chop but slapped Bulma to knock her out. This obviously shows that Bulma > SSJ3 Goku because DBZ characters can't hold back or lower their power when dealing with far weaker opponents. Beerus was definitely full power when he slapped Bulma.
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Krillin still has some surprises left in him it seems plus I loved how he relies on tactics like always since he seriously lack on the power department

Looking forward to see how the husband and wife duo will perform in the power tournament ^^
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The best thing they could have done with DBS was forgetting about power levels. They're all saturated since DBZ, that's why this new series wasn't going anywhere until now. Finally it was understood that tactics were always more important, just look at the success that JoJo has to this day. I'm only worried about the new characters of the tournment, it's been difficult to create good ones, with little exceptions like Goku Black.

The animation of the fighting scene was very good and the new ending was nostalgic
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This was a pretty interesting episode. We saw an amplified version of the Solar Flare which imo will be very useful since his ki can be hidden for a short while, thus allowing him to come up with a counterattacking move. Assuming the move will work in an area where there's no sun. Good moves from Krillin, and really props to him in general because he didn't back down from Super Saiyan Blue. He managed to push back the Kamehameha a little which surprised Goku.

It's really nice to see Goku and Gohan together but Krillin and 18 even more. Really like their relationship. Overall pretty good episode.

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I have a question, may be dumb. Are the Gods of Destruction fighting alongside their 10? I assume they would reserve the right because their existence is in jeopardy as well.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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