| I have a friend who is an innocent one, but an otaku. He watches anime, but he does not watch an ecchi anime because 1. -his parents are always near him, and he does not want them to think that he is a pervert and 2. - he disgusts it. So I've been thinking... There are many many innocent people out there that may have the chance to love anime someday but didn't because of the disgust towards the fanservices. Some already love anime but doesn't watch anime w/ fanservice. When my fellow innocent otakus knew I watch and accept ecchi anime, they reacted with "ew", thinking that I may already be used to the fan service. So... do you think that fanservice ruined a part of the anime industry's identity? Was it involved of people thinking of otakus as "perverts"? Would it be okay if fanservice would be removed from most of the anime and just put them to anime that is "mainly" ecchi? I'm ready for the hate, but I really want to express my opinion about it for a long time now. P.S. : I do not blame the anime that have a main "ecchi" genre, but to the anime that have potential to be popular to both kids and adults and didn't because it had the sub "ecchi" genre. |
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| It's the parent's fault. I'm pretty sure they like all the fanservice in their TV shows they watch, fcking hypocrites. |
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| It ruins the purity of your soul and turns you into a sex addicted and mindless consumer also just think about what the girl you like might think about you jerking off to animated porn? |
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| No it hasn't, in fact, in most cases fanservice has been a blessing, it's garbage like Eiken and Manyuu Hikenchou that gives fanservice a bad rap. |
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| Fanservice has been getting more and more frequent over the years, and since it's very popular in Japan right now, anime fans are usually labelled as perverts. And the industry doesnt care about its identity loss as long as it means money... |
-Elevated- said: Fanservice has been getting more and more frequent over the years, and since it's very popular in Japan right now, anime fans are usually labelled as perverts. And the industry doesnt care about its identity loss as long as it means money... The anime industry is pathetic....... |
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| The idea of fanservice is not to blame, it's just people focus more on it rather than other things anime has to offer. It succeeds in catching the viewer's attention. If you have two TVs that is playing Highschool DxD on the left one and a Ghibli movie on the right, which side would people go to? |
| To me, fanservice is usually a welcome addition and doesn't really detract from the show. You can overdo it, though, but examples are few and far between, and the only one I can think of is High School of the Dead. |
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| I think fan service is perfectly fine if it doesn't stray too far from the core of the series. If an anime is meant to be all about tits and ass, then it isn't fan service, it's the core of the anime. Fan service is the specials and ovas they put out that aren't cannon and are meant to be just an addition for fans to collect. |
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justotakuthings2 said: Plot is not really a problem, since the alluring effect of fanservice is what I'm trying to stress out.BlueKite said: The idea of fanservice is not to blame, it's just people focus more on it rather than other things anime has to offer. It succeeds in catching the viewer's attention. If you have two TVs that is playing Highschool DxD on the left one and a Ghibli movie on the right, which side would people go to? Of course a ghibli movie fanservice is over used. High School DXD is okay but some anime have just fanservice without any plot like bikini warriors |
| I don't really like ecchi-ish fanservice in anime, but I've gotten used to it. I don't really notice it anymore, I can even sometimes appreciate it. But I still understand that it gives a certain name to anime fans, and that's not exactly nice. It would be better if anime without the 'ecchi' genre wouldn't have it, because you basically don't know what you sign up for. You might pick up on a show that seems interesting, and it might have ridiculous amount of fanservice and if you don't like it, the show's kind of ruined for you. Pretty much most of the shows would do great even without fanservice. If the plot can't carry itself without fanservice, is it really a good one? Try to recommend an amazing show with a bit too much of fanservice in it to a friend who doesn't like it. Not working. I'm not saying fanservice should be completely removed, it's not bad, but the shows that aren't tagged as ecchi, should have some sort of limit for it. |
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| It hasn't because most of the time it's just integrated into the core scenes. It isn't a huge contributor to filler as filler typically occurs with or without fan service. The only people fan service really hurts are those who are being overly sensitive towards it. |
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BlueKite said: The idea of fanservice is not to blame, it's just people focus more on it rather than other things anime has to offer. It succeeds in catching the viewer's attention. If you have two TVs that is playing Highschool DxD on the left one and a Ghibli movie on the right, which side would people go to? Ghibi movie obviously. The difference in popularity, appeal and success is insanely huge.. This is the problem with this thread and ''fanservice''. People fail to understand that it's not an automatic ingredient for popular shows and success. So it's not an ''identity'' of anime industry or ''sex sells'' and other inaccurate rubbish. In the first place fanservice =/= only sexual fanservice. It's pretty annoying that ppl don't understand basic definitions. Fanservice didn't ruin anything. There is not a lot of shows that have misplaced sexual fanservice. What people attribute to as fanservice is usually relevant to the nature of the show, like most harem anime and most rom/com anime. But w/e ppl just find a popular term and hurr durr complaint and suddenly they are experts on the anime industry trends. Fanserivce is not an exclusive or detrimental factor to an entire industry but that of course that won't stop the many uninformed threads about 'fanservice'. |
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| No. As you said, ecchi anime are a little shameful. It's easy to encounter then once you're inside the community. From the outside, you see them less. I went to a convention and most of the merchandise was shounen or non-ecchi - One Piece, Fullmetal, Death Note, Attack on Titan and so on. |
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| Ecchis are all I care..... Yeah, yeah, call me a pervert if you want :p Hate hentai's tho, slight hentai in manga is good ;) |
| Dem otaku likes their waifu and still in need of waifu leave them alone! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| If the series has excessive amount of fan service it really devalues the enjoyment of the show. If it feels natural to the scene or if it's used as a tool for comedy then I don't mind it. I really wish anime/manga industry tried to make series that had other merits than fan service. |
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| Explain to me how you create a medium with over sexualized characters in schoolgirl outfits and you DON'T include fanservice? Fanservice is literally part of anime, without it wouldn't be the same. And people need to stop acting like fanservice is only for men....it's for women as well. Look at all these dudes with muscles, good looks, and who fight to defend women. It goes both ways. |
| no , only garbage plotless anime with pathetic comedy like opm can ruin this industry |
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JustALEX said: Explain to me how you create a medium with over sexualized characters in schoolgirl outfits and you DON'T include fanservice? Fanservice is literally part of anime, without it wouldn't be the same. And people need to stop acting like fanservice is only for men....it's for women as well. Look at all these dudes with muscles, good looks, and who fight to defend women. It goes both ways. This. My only beef is fanservice appearing in places it shouldn't. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| Moderation is the key imo. If there is excessive fanservice in an anime then I get irritated by it.Tbh I think it's kind of disgusting in shows like Highschool DxD or Kangoku Gakuen (I enjoy the manga though), that's not even sexy anymore imo. I understand it is part of the plot though so I cannot really complain if I choose to watch/ read the specific series. |
| Nope, moe and loli ruined the anime industry. Sexy women have always been a thing but underaged girls in sexy positions with panty shots and what not is very creepy especially in todays society, essentially a pedo in waiting. You could turn on NBC and see hot chicks. |
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| Yeah probably, anytime you stick sex into something because its sells better you instantly discredit the genre because now more people are going to do the same as you because they see your success, same with the Loli shit, so many secret pedophiles are being outted in the anime community through there love of Loli's and thats something the anime industry did themselves, they pulled that kind of audience in, if you like Loli's alot your probably a pedophile or your growing into one, there is no way out of that description. So then pedophiles start saturating the landscape of Anime too, its just one shitty thing after another |
ZjjDec 31, 2015 11:58 AM
| No. Nothing ruined industry, time and peoples just change. |
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
| Implying fanservice is something only found in anime |
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| Anime in the old days still had plenty of 'fanservice' compared to these days that just teases, they actually had full sex/rape/adult scenes and the gore back then was far more grotesque than anything today, with these days just being nothing but the usual gallons of blood and a missing limb or two. The old stereotype of anime being nothing but monster porn and gore originated from that kind of stuff. If anything, it's become more tamer because all these new laws and crap. Kids see more adult content just browsing the internet. |
| Not really I'm fine with it, I just get angry when it's used in inappropriate situations. |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| no. that is like saying horror movies ruined cinema. |
keimaconquesta said: I have a friend who is an innocent one, but an otaku. He watches anime, but he does not watch an ecchi anime because - he disgusts it. Hate to break it to you, but your friend is either a liar or a homo. Fanservice is what sells. He should just stop being ashamed to admit he likes it. |
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| As long as they get it's a time and place. Fanservice is appealing to fuccbois and angsty preteens. Unless if the show is done really well I think it can ruin some shows, certainly to the possibility of showing it to younger ages that you don't want to expose to the boob-obsessed anime industry |
iLolicon said: keimaconquesta said: I have a friend who is an innocent one, but an otaku. He watches anime, but he does not watch an ecchi anime because - he disgusts it. Hate to break it to you, but your friend is either a liar or a homo. Fanservice is what sells. He should just stop being ashamed to admit he likes it. Or maybe he does have a pure heart, it's possible. |
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| Not at all The fans are the people who are to blame There wouldn't be as many moe blob faggotery and ecchi harem boob shows if the fans had had better taste |
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Comic_Sans said: Not at all The fans are the people who are to blame There wouldn't be as many moe blob faggotery and ecchi harem boob shows if the fans had had better taste But sadly, Western fans have little effect on the industry. |
AltoRoarkJan 5, 2016 4:03 PM
| Yes, a lot of people think anime fans a perverts. My Sister dropped Kill La Kill because of the fanserivce, I dropped it just because I just found the show annoying. I personally don't care about fanservice, it doesn't do anything for me, then again I'm Asexual. |
| Do I think fanservice helped give anime fans an image of being perverts? Probably. Do I think that matters at all? No. Enjoy what you enjoy and let people think of you as they will. If you don't like fanservice watch anime without much of it. It's up to you, as the "buyer" or "viewer" to research what anime you watch, not the shows. Fanservice sells so you really can't blame it being as prevalent as it is. Enjoy it, accept it, avoid it as best you can, or stop watching. Also, if you're concerned about your parents finding out, or not letting you watch something just give it up right now. It's obviously not important enough to you. |
animefan8800Dec 31, 2015 3:23 PM
| I like fanservice, just not too in your face over the top. Subtle little cheeky parts is great. It story help as well |
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| Without fan service the industry wouldn't be nearly as big as it is now. |
| No, and I think those that do think fanservice has ruined a part of the anime industry are being cursed with trying or completing the wrong animes. In some cases, fanservice has sealed the deal for viewers. A few seconds of it can make a huge impact, but too much of anything in an anime is bad unless it's hentai. |
| To an extent, I think fan service in anime does worsen people's perceptions anime fans, but realistically, anime fans have been getting shit even without the fan service. To say it is ruining the industry as a whole is a gross exaggeration, in all honesty. I personally don't mind it, but it gets annoying when overused. Moderation is key, after all. |
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| After I watched this abomination... Highschool of the Dead, I really started to miss those times, when anime wasn't soaked with fanservice. |
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| If fanservice is overused, i hate it. General, i prefer not to see fanservice. It's not bad, but i can't stand it. Oh, and if an anime has a lot of fanservice, but , it has a good plot/good characters, then i'm fine. Also, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! :D ^_^ |
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| For me yes. No matter how great an anime is, if they started to give too much fan-service then I will definitely get disappointed. Giving a little fan-service every now and then is okay, but if they do it a lot it will lost the purpose of the story. There are anime's that managed to become popular even without fan-services. Those super huge b*obs and fan services is kinda like cheating. |
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| And no one ever complain about french kiss, bikini, sex scene etc in hollywood movies. Smh. Fanservice is everywhere, complaining about it is meaningless. |
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| Hasn't fanservice been around kinda forever? Ranma 1/2 used to be a semi-mainstream show with anime fans and got aired on children's TV in multiple countries. It has bare boobs and other fanservice all the time. Tenchi Muyo ran (edited) on Cartoon Network and was really popular in the late 90s despite its boobage. Perhaps it's the fanbase who's getting more prudish... |
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| Fanservice? More like pervservice or Pervserv for short |
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