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Nov 21, 2014 4:39 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Oh yes, all that finger cracking~ Nishio was the mystery person and Haise meets Arima once again. Nishio called him Kaneki though...
Nov 21, 2014 4:45 PM
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I believe Kaneki has disociative identity disorder just like Jason.
Jason didn't know if he was Jason or Yamori.
The CCG are taking advantage of the disorder, and created the Sasaki persona.
As I stated previously what Kaneki wanted most was a family, meet his father, which he has in CCG.
Arima is a father figure for him while Akira the mother figure, the quinx are his family.
He doesn't want to wake up, waking up means more suffering. Right not he is confortable, he knows his role in a world, he is "human", he belongs.
No more conflict, no more pain. no more hunger, no more fear. Why wake up?
But meeting Nishio made his two personalities enter in conflict, that is why he went into crazy mode.
LameReader talked about in the spoiler being conditioned (which coincidentally is the masters I am doing :p) and if I were to talk in that sense, we could say that behaving as Sasaki is reinforced by having a home, by Akira smiling at him, by Arima speaking to him, by having a place where he doesn't have to fight for survival.
Being Kaneki has become aversive to him, so he is blocking it, but not bc the CCG is doing it, like I said CCG is only taking advantage of this.
I mean they never taught him that being Kaneki equals pain, that is something he learned while living it.
TBH, I think it is impossible to "rescue" him, why? Bc the patient doesn't really want to lol
1) In his mind he is a part of the CCG, and everytime he remembers something of his past life he enters in shock making him dangerous, that means, Touka and co. can't get close to him.
2) Even if they succeed in kidnapping him they would have Arima/Akira hot on their steps, and I don't think they would want that.
He has to heal himself, he has to wake up little by little, the question is: Is Kaneki going to sacrifice his friends life for this confortable life?
Plus the confortable life is kind of broken in a way...bc we will have Lamb fearful of him
Cookie jealous and probably down the path of self-destruction, if he starts to try to become like him.
So probably he will wake up little by little, achieve Arima's level, uncover CCG's corruption, and as well Aogiri's plans.
And well that's it.
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


Nov 21, 2014 4:48 PM
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OH MY GOD

THE HYPE THOUGH
Nov 21, 2014 4:48 PM
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Well this confirms that Haise is Kaneki and Serpant is Nishio.
It seems that if Haise says he is Kaneki or someone else they will KILL him they also said he is ranked SS.

I am interested in the ending what will Arima and Haise be talking about?
Nov 21, 2014 4:53 PM
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yeees KANEKIIIIIIII well this was an awesome chapter!
Nov 21, 2014 4:53 PM
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KANEKI PROTECTING OTHERS AS USUAL


Nov 21, 2014 5:08 PM
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Kaneki confirmed. :D
"Did you really think I wouldn’t cheat just because I was already winning?" - Dread Emperor Terribilis II

"I chose glory and success. The box did not contain what was written on the lid." - Sand dan Glokta
Nov 21, 2014 5:22 PM
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If it wasn't 1000% confirmed who Haise was before it is now lol.

This chapter simply had it all 100/5

Papa Arima is BACK
Nov 21, 2014 5:24 PM
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Really interesting chapter that finally confirmed the obv. (the HYPE tho). Nishio's "I'll die, I'll die ... was it?" was an awesome reference to the prequel^^

Really curious to see how the talk between Armia and Haise will go.
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Nov 21, 2014 5:33 PM

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Dat chapter... Omg. The hype is real. And Arima appearing at the end.
Nov 21, 2014 5:34 PM

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Arima huh? It's been awhile (although not for me since I've been reading Tokyo Ghoul Jack). Next chapter should be quite interesting indeed.
Nov 21, 2014 5:38 PM

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Stark700 said:
Arima huh? It's been awhile (although not for me since I've been reading Tokyo Ghoul Jack). Next chapter should be quite interesting indeed.


Jack has been sooo good, especially considering it's a web comic he does in his free time. I hope it's not done with this newest chapter but I can understand if he doesn't have the time to keep doing it.
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Awesome chapter. So it is very likely that the people who are still alive from Anteiku are now aware of Kaneki being alive and working for the CCG (If they weren't already).

Really hope the other recurring characters from TG can make a comeback now.

Haise was definitely trying to hold back until he got stabbed by Nishiki: [spoiler]



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I cant believe how people called correctly that Serpent was Nishio.

"Have you ever encounter a wild beast that guarantees to never bite anyone?" ~ Roronoa Zoro
Nov 21, 2014 5:52 PM

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Wow Nishio has gotten stronger. Pretty cool fight.
Nov 21, 2014 5:54 PM

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He really is Ken!!!

Man this was a good ass chapter. Weird it came out early than I expected to. The reveals are strong in this one. We got Haise unleashing Ken to fight Serpent. Dat knuckle crack. Then I can't believe people guess that Serpent was Nishiki. That was crazy how they handle Ken. Now only did everybody knew what to do, but they know the rules also. What the fuck is that all about. SS rank Goul Ken. And that ending with Arima. This has to be the best chapter yet.

6/5.
Nov 21, 2014 5:56 PM
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nor is there much to say, best chapter so far.
Nov 21, 2014 6:07 PM
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amazing how Sasaki gives different form to his Kagune.
Nov 21, 2014 6:12 PM

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Acernos said:
amazing how Sasaki gives different form to his Kagune.


Isn't that bc he has several kakuhous?
"It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story"

"And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues"

Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki


Nov 21, 2014 6:18 PM
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gabyta07 said:
Acernos said:
amazing how Sasaki gives different form to his Kagune.


Isn't that bc he has several kakuhous?


it has influence, but more creativity and technique as in the case in which he copied the techniques of Tsukyama and Sachi.
Nov 21, 2014 6:29 PM
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but someone is having trouble stop seeing this fight?
Nov 21, 2014 6:31 PM

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Well, ppl said that it might be not their first encounter, but i guess it is. Well, if thats the case, give us about 30 chapters and touka will meet Sasaki and magic will happen.
Nov 21, 2014 6:35 PM
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the business is now expected corrections in dialogues that take place during the week.
Nov 21, 2014 6:36 PM

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1000% confirmed Sasaski=Kaneki, haters gon' hate!
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Sh*t just hit the fan XD
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Nov 21, 2014 6:40 PM
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Just now I saw that Sasaki imitated a sentence of Arima.

"You will not pass here ................."
Nov 21, 2014 6:42 PM

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SEE URIE JUST POOPED ON THE FLOOR NAILED IT

btw i dont really get where the bullet end up, did she shoot kaneki ? cuz i didnt see shit lmao, did she shooted his leg or what no idea

#hype just how the conersation between arima and ken gonna evolve

damn waiting is damn painful

and now that Nishio knows about kaneki, im sure that he's gonna have some visitor like Touka or hinami hehee HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ps in your teeth urie, you can talk now, what you gonna say nigg*
Nov 21, 2014 6:43 PM

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Im very interested to know if he felt forced to say he is Haise to Mado,or he really feels like his name is Haise.
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Im very interested to know if he felt forced to say he is Haise to Mado,or he really feels like his name is Haise.


i think for the moment he still thinks hes haise cuz when he said Nishio-senpai, he was like WHAT DID I SAY and came back to haise personality
Nov 21, 2014 6:47 PM
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FrozenRemains said:
Im very interested to know if he felt forced to say he is Haise to Mado,or he really feels like his name is Haise.


well, she said something like: "think calmly about what you will say."
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Hell Yessssss, Papa Arima has arrived XD and is about to heal baby sasaki's troubled heart :)

Urghhh I always hated akira :( but she has to stay cause she's my man amon's waifu :(
Half assed kagune hanlding there haise just leave it to the pro's.
Nov 21, 2014 6:48 PM

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And that is definitely Kaneki.
Nov 21, 2014 6:56 PM

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Kaneki confirmed, finalfuckingly)its was obvious from the get go). Now all these Kaneki is Haise doubters can shut the fuck up.
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Never doubted for a second it was Kaneki..

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1000% confirmed Sasaski=Kaneki, haters gon' hate!


Yes
Nov 21, 2014 7:00 PM
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was also confirmed that Kaneki takes RC suppressors, and yet he is still highly powerful.
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The plot is really getting interesting with this chapter. I'm really curious as to where this series is going to go. At first, it seemed like everything would be more from the CCG's viewpoint, thus painting them in more of the protagonist light. But now, it's become evident that the CCG has this scheme going, and what with Nishiki showing up, I'm interested in seeing just how the plot will progress. I'm glad that we're finally, slowly, starting to have some things fall into place.

So excited for next week!
Nov 21, 2014 7:28 PM
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And two predictable things that should've been predictable to everyone but wasnt happened.
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Omfg this chapter...dat Nishiki..dat finger-cracking...dat Kaneki...my body can't take it...i'll die, i'll die, I'LL FUCKING DIE!!!
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Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain.

We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us
Nov 21, 2014 7:37 PM

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God the hype is too much, I don't even know why I'm so excited that Kaneki=Haise is confirmed since I knew it since the beginning lol

But ugh, this chapter was sooooo amazing I have to read it again to let it sink in!

I kinda feel bad because Mutsuki might be scared of Haise from now on, and he was the only one that actually followed him :c
Nov 21, 2014 8:02 PM

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Great Chapter
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WHAT
NISHIO
IS
SERPENT
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JUST
WHAT
IN
THE
WORLD
DID
ARIMA
DOES
TO
KANEKI
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The world shall know the truth soon.
Nov 21, 2014 8:03 PM
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That was the most satisfying chapter to read!!
-I agree with the earlier points of Sasaki having a personality to "hide" from being Kaneki.


Now, I am not sure, but do you guys thing these are numbers?



Firstly, I am aware it is just SFX movement, but I just keep seeing '7', does anyone know what it translate into?
here's the tarot meaning, so maybe you guys can either agree or debunk my guessing!
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Another view is that the mood of the card may be characterized as that of conquest. It represents a battle that can be won if the Querent has the willpower for it. The battle is usually an external one, with a clear goal and plan of action.

What does this all mean? It means a union of opposites, like the black and white steeds. They pull in different directions, but must be (and can be!) made to go together in one direction. Control is required over opposing emotions, wants, needs, people, or circumstances; to bring them together and give them a single direction, your direction.
other meanings:
Conquest — Honor — Victory — Energy
Egocentrism — Self—confidence — Conviction — Anxiety
Willpower — Self—assertion — Hard control — Discipline
Inflexibility — Success — Wealth — Recognition
Impulsivity — Command — Bravery — Pride


The other number I noticed looks like an upside down '8'


If inverted, the Querant is in danger of losing control to impulses and desires. Pride and unwarranted anger are also often associated with the inverted card.
Nov 21, 2014 8:03 PM
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Epic chapter! Serpent = Nishio & Sasarious = Kaneki, confirmed!

Those Kagune movements were amazing! Nishio got insane strong to be on par with Sasarious!

Sniper Akira subdues the situation. Too bad, she wasn't wearing a sexy sniping outfit.

Shirazu, Urie and Mutsuki just experienced the phenomenal fighting style of Kaneki. Urie's envy will probably be in vain. I can't really see him topping Kaneki anytime soon.

Now the question is, how was Kaneki brainwashed? CCG mus've done some crazy sh!t to him.
Arima is about to give him a good lesson though.

Nov 21, 2014 8:04 PM

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Amazing chapter. I knew Nishiki was going to do the same thing Haise did to him back in the day, but then he got rekt again. I have no idea what kagune Haise was using, at first it was some strange arm-like one, then another that resembles Tsukiyama's then something like Rize's... did i miss something?

Anyway, now it's confirmed that Kaneki is Haise, so wherefore art thou, Arcanix, and all the organ theorists? Seems like Kaneki's rated SS, i'm guessing SSS is reserved for the Owl alone (and Arima, lol). I am so glad Cookie is now jealous, Shizu reveres Haise now, and Mitsuki is afraid. I am kinda displeased that both Nishiki and Torso got away, though.

5/5. Next time, Arima lectures his boy.
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Nov 21, 2014 8:09 PM

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Great chapter like always.
5/5

Poor Urie, envy? lol..
Nov 21, 2014 8:13 PM

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Did the number of his Kakuhou's increase?

He additionally now has a:

- Hand-like Kagune.
- Tsukiyama-like Kagune.
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Did the number of his Kakuhou's increase?

He additionally now has a:

- Hand-like Kagune.
- Tsukiyama-like Kagune.


because of the cannibalism there increased number of kakuhou him, but he is still a rinkaku, if you reread Kaneki vs Sachi and Kaneki vs Hirako, you will see that this is just creativity and training in control.
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Omg amazing!!!!!! This manga just keeps getting better and better! Needs a tiny smidge more romance elements mixed in with all the current elements and it would be perfect imo. Kaneki x Akira would be interesting, similar to kenshin, girl falling in love with her lovers killer.
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Firstly, I am aware it is just SFX movement, but I just keep seeing '7', does anyone know what it translate into?

That's ( グツ) ( gustsu) it's like boil and toil, boil, blub blub.
that's the closest thing I can translate it into.
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Just... wow... Things just getting more interesting.. looks like Papa has something to say with his little boy... :3

Also, this isn't the first time "Kaneki" has used his kagune in tsukiyama's style. Back there in Anteiku raid arc, he fought hirako take (the first class assistant of Kishou) by using Tsukiyama-styled attack form.

here he is:

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