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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well that was kinda intense imo. Poor Touji, I feel for his pain ;.;. The spirit was pretty dangerous this episode. This new character named Reiji or whatever also seems to be so. Guess everyone has their hands full. Dat cliffhanger. |
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eminagnam said: It felt rushed. Maybe the LN readers could fully follow the episode. I felt left behind at times. I think something wrong with pacing throughout the series. Sometimes slow paced , sometimes fast. Yea, I thought I was the only one who missed a few things. I was waiting for Harutora to kick ass at some point, but I guess I was wrong... |
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| Good ep. But damn there are too many names, organizations, terms...etc that we don't know and they're just throwing them in like nothing. I'm getting too confused about who's with who and stuff. Well the second half was better. I was able to understand a few things during the second half, and the action was pretty nice, but a lot I'm still confused about. Hopefully being a 2 cour will make this less apparent later on. I need the LNs!! Loved Kon as usual <3...Didn't expect they already spent 6 months. That's some fast pacing. I'm liking Kagami quite a bit. He's the type of crazy bastards I like. Reminds me a bit of Accelerator XD And what's happening to Touji seems interesting? He's changing into an Oni? Still wondering his relationship with Natsume? |
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| The action this episode was pretty entertaining. The conversation between Ohtomo, Hirata, and Chief Amami was interesting. Apparently Ohtomo used to be one of the Divine Generals. I liked hearing about the Twin Horn Syndicate. Everything else was pretty confusing to me though. So the new character, Reiji Kagami, is one of the Twelve Divine Generals and is known as the "Ogre Eater". And we now know that Touji is a half ogre in the middle of turning. Next episode should be pretty interesting lol |
| Man, that chat with otomo was nice, but I couldn't understand anything they were talking about. I hope someone can clarify for us later, no spoiler of course. Kon is adorable as usual. |
| Right when it was getting good. Looks like Touji's in trouble. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| So much stuff to memorize. |
| Why are they rushing the story this much? I just hope they can fit the entire 9 volumes in without leaving out or skipping any good parts. With the pace they are going, I guess all hopes for S2 are now dead. |
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| Intense episode. A lot things happened this episode. I like Reiji dude just don't give a fuck. The music they played when he showed up was perfect. Feel sorry for Touji. One of the best episodes I seen imo. Can't wait for next. |
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| Only thing I like of this episode was KON, and maybe the little info about Touji's past. Natsume is getting a bit annoying, kind of liked Hokuto better. |
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| Kon is so freaking adorable... |
| I feel bad for Touji : ( |
| Haru said her! I wonder if anyone noticed? Touji has some serious after effects 0_0 |
eminagnam said: The battle was intense. I thought the white hair guy would show up again, but instead two new guys showed up. Toji is turning into a monster? It felt rushed. Maybe the LN readers could fully follow the episode. I felt left behind at times. I think something wrong with pacing throughout the series. Sometimes slow paced , sometimes fast. The pacing is fairly tight since it covered 3 chapters, but I don't think was anything really hard understand. This just happened to be a pretty eventful epiosde that's all. JoksPacifist said: Man, that chat with otomo was nice, but I couldn't understand anything they were talking about. I hope someone can clarify for us later, no spoiler of course. Kon is adorable as usual. There's not much more than what was already said in the epiosde. If your confused just rewatch scene again. Conversation Ohtomo had with is old boss was about Two Horn Syndicate and Natsume who are apparently carrying out something some sort of terrorist attack they tried two years back. It's also implied by this member Chihiro that Two Horn Syndicate is actually the Yakou Cult since he calls Natsume "The King of the North Star". This group also has connections to Touji as he was a victim of their terrorist attack 2 years and Danreiji Suzuka was cult leader's daughter. |
| I don't know about those who've read the LN but as someone who hasn't delved into the source material I feel like they're unnecessarily skipping a lot of explanations. Given that this is a 2-cour, hope they slow it down and stop throwing out cryptic conversations as if the series has provided enough of a background to everything. There's a line between being subtle and being unclear and I'm pretty sure this episode was on the unclear side... |
zannet_t said: I don't know about those who've read the LN but as someone who hasn't delved into the source material I feel like they're unnecessarily skipping a lot of explanations. Given that this is a 2-cour, hope they slow it down and stop throwing out cryptic conversations as if the series has provided enough of a background to everything. There's a line between being subtle and being unclear and I'm pretty sure this episode was on the unclear side... As an manga reader, they didn't really skipped much here other than some expostion and minor backstory. They just combined 3 chapters and that's what anime is likely going to be doing from here on out to animate all 9 novels. That said everything you need to know about this arc is right in the epiosde. A little crammed maybe, but that's it really. Most of show's exposition has been put into these two videos to save time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAonHK0fPz4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv3TjKgv4hU |
| I cannot wait until the next episode to see Touji transform into an ogre. Great episode!!! |
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| Well it's kind of a given that the LNs hold more detail than the manga and anime adaptations since the author can utilize prose to throw out more back story and details w/out it feeling forced or cumbersome. And since they are going w/ this pacing I think they'll go animate the most major plot twist in the LN and end it w/ a cliffhanger. W/c is good or bad depending on how you look at it. And yeah, Touji is one of the more popular characters in Tokyo Ravens and for good reason. |
| There goes another half human hybrid. |
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| =.= .They Skip Trap Chapter . I am waiting for that . I hope it will be OVA zannet_t said: I don't know about those who've read the LN but as someone who hasn't delved into the source material I feel like they're unnecessarily skipping a lot of explanations. Given that this is a 2-cour, hope they slow it down and stop throwing out cryptic conversations as if the series has provided enough of a background to everything. There's a line between being subtle and being unclear and I'm pretty sure this episode was on the unclear side... They just only skip a side chapter , a relax chapter . The rest of main plot point still cover |
Ignis_ScientiaNov 19, 2013 5:59 PM
Barion-Zara said: I don't think they have any specific kind of relationship... Natsume is simply the same person as Hokuto, and unlike Harutora, Touji caught on to that right away. It hinted at it a few times, but one example is the last episode where she accidentally tells Harutora the last time they hung out was at the fireworks festival, and he is confused and she realizes her slip of the tongue.And what's happening to Touji seems interesting? He's changing into an Oni? Still wondering his relationship with Natsume? Aggron said: Wow damn, I completely missed that. I really want to see their reactions when they find out she's a girl.Haru said her! I wonder if anyone noticed? |
| That was pretty epic. The whole explanation part was a bit to quick for my liking, but it was doable. Love Renji already. He looks like a total badass. |
Jagd84 said: Most of show's exposition has been put into these two videos to save time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAonHK0fPz4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv3TjKgv4hU Well, it'd be great if someone actually subs these exposition videos, seeing that a great majority of people (myself included) wouldn't understand Japanese. Didn't Funimation pick this series up? Hopefully they'll sub these too. |
| Trap chapter? I'm curious. Things are now getting serious. I don't like that "Oni-eater" guy. |
| Ooh shit's about to get real :D |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Still can't help wonder why they can animate other creatures normally but still CG the knights and Hokuto. Heck, they're not even'd CG'd in the opening. Which gets me thinking, so Touji is gonna turn monster? Oh god I hope they don't end up CG'ing Touji. |
| They are just setting up for a Touji-to-the-rescue episode. Not really not unheard of. |
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Aggron said: Haru said her! I wonder if anyone noticed? Touji has some serious after effects 0_0 Where'd you get the "her" from? I looked @ both GG and Anime-Koi subs and nothing mentions "her" |
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| Yeah this is a screw up on Funi's part. Honestly both Anime-Koi and [gg] are better subs for this show overall than official one. Especially since they translate everything including the stuff blackboards (ep 2) or lists (ep 3). |
Jagd84 said: Yeah this is a screw up on Funi's part. Honestly both Anime-Koi and [gg] are better subs for this show overall than official one. Especially since they translate everything including the stuff blackboards (ep 2) or lists (ep 3). Can we ask Anime koi translate 2 Video about information ? Magito said: Trap chapter? I'm curious. Things are now getting serious. I don't like that "Oni-eater" guy. Here is that chapter they skip . Bloody Holiday http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Tokyo-Ravens/Vol-004-Ch-017--Bloody-Holiday?id=159629 |
| FINALLY, this anime stopped being such a shitfest. They managed to finally get their head out of the ass that is that stupid fucking Natsume/Harutora bullshit, and some decent plot actually raised its head for once. There's even a decent character finally on the scene, in the form of Kagami Reiji. The CGI slime was still pretty painful to look at, but I was actually interested in what was happening for once. Why did it take 7 bad episodes to get to this? Ugh. |
| Finally we get to see about Touji's story Too many new characters introduced in this Ep Chihiro, Amami, Hirata Atsune and the badass Divine General Kagami Reiji. So Touji is a half-ogre, maybe he turns into one in next episode? Good episode better than last 2 which were completely useless to watch but some things were confusing, had to rewatch the conversation between Ohtomo and the other 2 guys. Also.. Dairenji Suzuka, Dairenji Shidou(Former head of Ghost Division?) any relation between them? |
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Ignis_Scientia said: Can we ask Anime koi translate 2 Video about information ? Might as well, since funi only does the bare minimum with any of their shows anyway. straggy said: Why did it take 7 bad episodes to get to this? Ugh. That's because it didn't, all that stuff was there along. This episode just further expands on them. Don't like NatsumexHarutora stuff? Well too bad since that's pretty much tied with plot. |
Jagd84 said: Those are the basic that would be good enough until the last episode or so. But the jargon in this episode are many: Namanari, the state where Touji got himself into; Joushi no Oobarai, the disaster Touji encountered 2 years ago (and from the word Joushi I can tell it happened in early March; I guess the subtitle did not explain that?); or the Gozutennou Shingon (the Mantra of the ox-head deity) used by the terrorist, and then a number of department or title names under the ministry Onmyouchou.... There are also a couple of new characters in this episode that we need to get familiar...Most of show's exposition has been put into these two videos to save time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAonHK0fPz4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv3TjKgv4hU Anyway, LN readers in Japan said it is from here where the story got really intriguing. I surely look forward to seeing how it will unfold. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Jagd84 said: Those are the basic that would be good enough until the last episode or so. But the jargon in this episode are many: Namanari, the state where Touji got himself into; Joushi no Oobarai, the disaster Touji encountered 2 years ago (and from the word Joushi I can tell it happened in early March; I guess the subtitle did not explain that?); or the Gozutennou Shingon (the Mantra of the ox-head deity) used by the terrorist, and then a number of department or title names under the ministry Onmyouchou.... There are also a couple of new characters in this episode that we need to get familiar...Most of show's exposition has been put into these two videos to save time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAonHK0fPz4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv3TjKgv4hU Anyway, LN readers in Japan said it is from here where the story got really intriguing. I surely look forward to seeing how it will unfold. As far terminology and such goes only who the Two Horn Syndicate (Yakou fanatics and terrorists) and Onmyo Agnecy (Magic law enforcement which consists of two sub-divisions Magic Investigation and Exoticism Bureaus) are really necessary to understand. Most of the characters that appear here are going to be recurring from now, so it won't take long to be familiarized with them. But Ohtomo's conversation with Amami and Atsune tells you all the basics things needed like said before. If one doesn't get it at first a rewatch of that scene should help. Touji's current state is self-explanatory at face value, but show will dive in a more about next episode. I suspect the anime studio will put more of the finer details in future videos. Nuvi said: Also.. Dairenji Suzuka, Dairenji Shidou(Former head of Ghost Division?) any relation between them? It's her father (having the same last name should imply that :p) which means he's the on who had experimented on her brother and herself. |
Iron_MawNov 20, 2013 8:30 AM
Jagd84 said: straggy said: Why did it take 7 bad episodes to get to this? Ugh. That's because it didn't, all that stuff was there along. This episode just further expands on them. Don't like NatsumexHarutora stuff? Well too bad since that's pretty much tied with plot. You are joking, right? The episode before this was pretty unfunny filler (really, I wouldn't mind filler if it was actually entertaining, which that mostly wasn't), and a lot of the stuff that happened at the start of this show has managed to just... not be mentioned again. It was never ~*~there all along~*~, as much as you'd like to think it was. They wasted so many episodes at the start to pretty much just kill off Hokuto and set up this stupid pairing (well too bad it drags the show down with it, you mean) which had no impact otherwise. There was that sorta cool blonde girl and the shit with her brother which is pretty much no longer even relevant. We finally got to the actual setting after episodes of this shit, just to see them wasting a ton of time at the start of their school career, which then culminated in a six month time skip. They felt it necessary to show all this nitpicky bullshit, but then skipped six months just so Harutora could be an all-powerful protagonist that can beat a girl that everyone said was formidable when we first saw her with no fucking lead up. The fact that he beat this apparently great girl, but then couldn't even do the stupid barrier right or pass an exam, just to shit all over the few things we already knew about her character. I guess like Natsume, despite her apparent power too, she's going to have a dumb damsel moment where only the most useless student can save her. Yeah, sure. They could pretty much have started most of this at the school with flashbacks to the Hokuto stuff and lost mostly nothing to the plot, and in fact kept in some stuff that would actually have been interesting about Harutora learning to not suck in a shorter space of time and some actual explanation about Touji's past (which would've been nice since, unlike so many of these characters, he isn't unbearable), and then got to this stage in the first three or four episodes. The fact that you all keep complaining about them missing stuff out or going too fast is a fucking mystery to me, because this took way too long to actually do anything decent at all. |
straggy said: Jagd84 said: straggy said: Why did it take 7 bad episodes to get to this? Ugh. That's because it didn't, all that stuff was there along. This episode just further expands on them. Don't like NatsumexHarutora stuff? Well too bad since that's pretty much tied with plot. You are joking, right? The episode before this was pretty unfunny filler (really, I wouldn't mind filler if it was actually entertaining, which that mostly wasn't), and a lot of the stuff that happened at the start of this show has managed to just... not be mentioned again. It was never ~*~there all along~*~, as much as you'd like to think it was. They wasted so many episodes at the start to pretty much just kill off Hokuto and set up this stupid pairing (well too bad it drags the show down with it, you mean) which had no impact otherwise. There was that sorta cool blonde girl and the shit with her brother which is pretty much no longer even relevant. We finally got to the actual setting after episodes of this shit, just to see them wasting a ton of time at the start of their school career, which then culminated in a six month time skip. They felt it necessary to show all this nitpicky bullshit, but then skipped six months just so Harutora could be an all-powerful protagonist that can beat a girl that everyone said was formidable when we first saw her with no fucking lead up. The fact that he beat this apparently great girl, but then couldn't even do the stupid barrier right or pass an exam, just to shit all over the few things we already knew about her character. I guess like Natsume, despite her apparent power too, she's going to have a dumb damsel moment where only the most useless student can save her. Yeah, sure. They could pretty much have started most of this at the school with flashbacks to the Hokuto stuff and lost mostly nothing to the plot, and in fact kept in some stuff that would actually have been interesting about Harutora learning to not suck in a shorter space of time and some actual explanation about Touji's past (which would've been nice since, unlike so many of these characters, he isn't unbearable), and then got to this stage in the first three or four episodes. The fact that you all keep complaining about them missing stuff out or going too fast is a fucking mystery to me, because this took way too long to actually do anything decent at all. Why do you hate true love? Don't worry, you will find it someday....... maybe. Natsume x Harutora for life!!!!!! <3 |
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straggy said: You are joking, right? The episode before this was pretty unfunny filler (really, I wouldn't mind filler if it was actually entertaining, which that mostly wasn't), and a lot of the stuff that happened at the start of this show has managed to just... not be mentioned again. It was never ~*~there all along~*~, as much as you'd like to think it was. They wasted so many episodes at the start to pretty much just kill off Hokuto and set up this stupid pairing (well too bad it drags the show down with it, you mean) which had no impact otherwise. There was that sorta cool blonde girl and the shit with her brother which is pretty much no longer even relevant. Um what? Hokuto died in the 2nd episode which was practically the beginning of plot. How was that wasting a bunch of episodes on her? Just because you don't care for it doesn't mean was irrelevant. As far as the episode 6 was concerned every 24-26 episode anime has one of those lighthearted airings. It will entertain some and others won't. We finally got to the actual setting after episodes of this shit, just to see them wasting a ton of time at the start of their school career, which then culminated in a six month time skip. They felt it necessary to show all this nitpicky bullshit, but then skipped six months just so Harutora could be an all-powerful protagonist that can beat a girl that everyone said was formidable when we first saw her with no fucking lead up. The fact that he beat this apparently great girl, but then couldn't even do the stupid barrier right or pass an exam, just to shit all over the few things we already knew about her character. I guess like Natsume, despite her apparent power too, she's going to have a dumb damsel moment where only the most useless student can save her. Yeah, sure. What are you even talking about here? Where is Harutora being all powerful? What girl did he beat? He defeated one Kyouko's familiars to show his steady improvement in practical combat as well as using his own familiar since Yakou devotee incident, that's it. Whether Natsume gets saved by Haru or not in the future is a stupid nitpick that has nothing to do anything. Being strong does not mean you're invincible. Lastly, the whole point of school arc was to introduce the main cast develop relationships, characters and expanded the setting and foreshadow the bigger plot. Which did adequately. Everything talked about ep 7 saved for the new characters and Touji's stuff was introduced prior. Now it's just expanding on them like any good traditional story. They could pretty much have started most of this at the school with flashbacks to the Hokuto stuff and lost mostly nothing to the plot, and in fact kept in some stuff that would actually have been interesting about Harutora learning to not suck in a shorter space of time and some actual explanation about Touji's past (which would've been nice since, unlike so many of these characters, he isn't unbearable), and then got to this stage in the first three or four episodes. The fact that you all keep complaining about them missing stuff out or going too fast is a fucking mystery to me, because this took way too long to actually do anything decent at all. Yes, let's skip who main characters are and all the context need understand anything just because "you don't like it". Newsflash that's not how storytelling works, this show isn't made sole for you. You have right opinion on events that occur, but doesn't make any of them pointless. I unlike you am interested in threads TR is making beyond one character, and yes I also like the main OTP. |
Iron_MawNov 20, 2013 2:19 PM
| Kon with sunglasses after the credits, all of my lulz. |
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| Confirmed Touji=best character. He's a victim of some "spirit disaster." Dat cliffhanger.Cool horns btw. |
VarendantNov 20, 2013 4:43 PM
| Things are getting interesting :D |
| Finally some episode that i really enjoyed.I don't understand some stuff though, so i'll have to either re-watch everything or wait for some more explanations. Well anyways, my rating went up from 5 to 6.Hopefully it will stay there or go even higher ^^ |
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| Oh I can't sleep? Better drink coffee. |
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| Touji best. Kon wearing sunglasses best. I can't fully get into this show and like several posts said, as of now, it feels like they are skipping information. |
Tyrel said: Aggron said: Haru said her! I wonder if anyone noticed? Touji has some serious after effects 0_0 Where'd you get the "her" from? I looked @ both GG and Anime-Koi subs and nothing mentions "her" Should be around 20:38. He says "Let go of her, you scarred bastard!" |
| This episode was pretty bland. It's sad to say, but I believe I preferred the earlier dawdling and dense play. It's amusing that we spent so much time 'studying', yet they haven't explained jack-all about the magic-system. Class-A pathetic world building (putting it in online excerpts is just lazy as proverbial). |
CkanNov 20, 2013 10:33 PM
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