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Feb 3, 2018 4:23 PM
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Damn, 17 takes on Toppo quite well, at least in avoiding most of his attacks.

Frieza and 17 makes a surprisingly good duo when the two fights alongside each other. Toppo is fucking insane. Honestly, this guy makes everything look almost impossible to deal against. Unless of course...when Vegeta fights thinkg about his family, that made a bit of a difference.

Vegetaaaaaaaaa
Feb 3, 2018 4:30 PM
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there is still no Ultra Instinct Vegeta? damn at least Vegeta defeated Toppo, next week looks like Android 17 will be eliminated
Feb 3, 2018 5:10 PM
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i read some rough translation from Herms
and looks like Vegeta will not go Ultra Instinct since he does not want to throw away his saiyan pride because apparently Ultra Instinct also means losing yourself completely and let your instinct somewhat take over you
Feb 3, 2018 5:49 PM
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Finally only Jiren left.
Feb 3, 2018 5:56 PM
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isekai said:
there is still no Ultra Instinct Vegeta? damn at least Vegeta defeated Toppo, next week looks like Android 17 will be eliminated
Yeah I expected Vegeta to go Ultra Instincts too, but still, the fight was pretty awesome between Vegeta and Toppo. I didn't expect Vegeta to be so strong as to nullify Destruction. And he makes some pretty good points about not casting away everything. Now Jiren is going to unleash his full power If he's already strong to overpower Goku and Vegeta. I can't wait to find out what that next level will be, and how Goku and Vegeta (not to mention Android 17 and Frieza) would overcome this?
Feb 3, 2018 5:58 PM
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fulminicolibri said:
isekai said:
there is still no Ultra Instinct Vegeta? damn at least Vegeta defeated Toppo, next week looks like Android 17 will be eliminated
Yeah I expected Vegeta to go Ultra Instincts too, but still, the fight was pretty awesome between Vegeta and Toppo I didn't expect Vegeta to be so strong as to nullify Destruction And he makes some pretty good points about not casting away everything Now Jiren is going to unleash his full power If he's already strong to overpower Goku and Vegeta, I can't wait to find out what that next level will be, and how Goku and Vegeta (not to mention Android 17 and Frieza) would overcome this?


high chance Vegeta will not achieve Ultra Instinct like i explained on my second post on this thread and i feel sad about it lol
Feb 3, 2018 6:02 PM
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You mean he has emotion and can do other faces besides a still angry face?!?
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Feb 3, 2018 6:08 PM
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Vegeta showed some real power. I thought he was going to get a bigger moment
Feb 3, 2018 6:10 PM
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Jiren literally told off Toppo as it is. Even Jiren shows disrespect even to his own comrades or friends huh? Damn.
Feb 3, 2018 6:35 PM

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Vegeta has come really far as a character,good job taking out Toppo.

Only Jiren is left and judging by the preview I'm sure that 17 will leave us next episode,hope he doesn't go out without a bang,tho.

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Feb 3, 2018 6:36 PM
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Wow Jiren is straight up furious and displeased with Toppo. Vegeta got his time to shine and did very well vs Toppo. When he began to think of his family, Cabba and Saiyan pride and started his counter attack. Toppo lost all his momentum and Belmod was freaking out lol. It's nice that they brought back the Desperate Assault OST from the Goku Black arc, it really fit the moment as Vegeta was preparing to self destruct. Seeing those flashbacks also added more to the scene imo.

And after all that Toppo did not eliminate a single person, even Roshi took out like 5 dudes. No wonder Jiren was very displeased with Toppo xD
MVP without a doubt is 17, he's been giving it his all and most of all using whatever tactics he can use. He's very perceptive of his surroundings as well.
Going by the preview, well...Jiren is unleashed.

Feb 3, 2018 6:41 PM

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Kinda lame throwing that emotional DBZ flashback in there only for Vegeta to use the suicide move again but not die this time. For some reason, I feel like it invalidates him using it originally against Buu
"I ask you, are you my master?"

Feb 3, 2018 6:54 PM

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Kinda lame throwing that emotional DBZ flashback in there only for Vegeta to use the suicide move again but not die this time. For some reason, I feel like it invalidates him using it originally against Buu


Not only that, I felt like this was an asspull.. This episode was anti-climatic.. I always love Vegeta to progress and surpass Goku one day, but just something about this episode doesn't do it for me.. If Vegeta can nullify Toppo's Destruction Orbs, what does that make Vegeta right now then? A candidate God of Destruction like Toppo? Or, a God of Destruction? Or, higher than a God of destruction? Feel free to correct me on any of this 'cause it's been awhile and I'm trying to understand how this works exactly...

I'm also a bit bummed that Toppo's time to shine didn't last very long vs Ribrianne (however you spell her name).

I can't be the only one disappointed in this episode...right? :(
Feb 3, 2018 6:54 PM

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The way Vegeta canceled out Toppo's blasts looked weird, it was like his aura has the power of hakai.

From the savage way Jiren acted towards Toppo, it seems like they are not on a friendly terms even though there's teamwork between them.

Freiza once again hiding somewhere at the end. Wonder will he cheap Jiren from behind like always, hence Jiren's back looks like that in the preview.


Seems like 17 will use his shield to protect Goku and Vegeta, not as an offensive move as an attempt to take out Jiren.
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Feb 3, 2018 6:57 PM
I'm glad that the ending is near. 1/5
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Feb 3, 2018 7:05 PM

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Now only Jiren is left, U7 can win this tournament if Goku uses Instant Transmission and takes Jiren out of the ring with him but he won't, because "Plot".
Anyway, still looking forward to Goku UI vs Jiren.
Feb 3, 2018 7:08 PM

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Tired of the rehash of finishing moves used before from episodes of old. Wished they used more new and original attacks than resorting to the same stuff over and over. For example like Goku's Ki Land Mines a few episodes back. I want to see more stuff like that, but well.. whatever. Flashbacks are cool and all but feels like they're not really trying to create new ways to finish off people. You'd think Vegeta would learn some new stuff training as much as he does. How hard is it to come up with new moves? I can come up with some exciting new attacks DBS. Hire me.

Feb 3, 2018 7:08 PM
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I love how they re-ran the old animation of Vegeta's sacrifice. He may not have died from it this time, but he's pretty useless now.
Feb 3, 2018 7:20 PM

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The moment Vegeta got a flashback on the side of the screen, that was it, never doubt it!!

Jiren literally told Toppo you are useless. That was good.

Finally Jiren is the only one left and we get to see his power for real next episode. 10/10
Feb 3, 2018 7:21 PM

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DAYUM!! Shit's bout' to get so real.
Feb 3, 2018 7:39 PM

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Epic clash at the end with Vegeta taking out Toppo.

Jiren left and 5 episodes to go, this should be fun.
Feb 3, 2018 7:53 PM

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Jiren is a savage with it.

Feb 3, 2018 8:03 PM

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What Vegeta need now is flashback about Mr.Satan saved him before!
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Feb 3, 2018 8:08 PM

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Finally, he wins and it was cleanly to booth! Vegeta getting the respect he deserved after he became one of the good guys (after he watched Goku fight against Kid Buu)...
Feb 3, 2018 8:13 PM

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Oh wow didn't expect to see Final Explosion here. Nice throwback.
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Feb 3, 2018 8:30 PM

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I actually really enjoyed this episode. Vegeta won some badass points - well deserved but Frieza getting owned again left a sour taste in my mouth. I wanted to see a bit of a comeback and land in some good hits, but oh well. Now theres only Jiren! Still hoping for that fusion *cough* Gogeta/Vegito buuuuuttt i know that wont happen. I can still dream though...
Feb 3, 2018 8:34 PM
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I've been expecting a return of the suicide attack for a few episodes now I thought he was doing that a couple episodes ago with his big buildup.
Feb 3, 2018 8:53 PM
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You mean he has emotion and can do other faces besides a still angry face?!?
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You know it's about to get serious when jiren smiles
Feb 3, 2018 8:57 PM
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How can Jiren say Toppo pathetic . Jiren must have evil deep inside.
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Feb 3, 2018 9:05 PM
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This was pretty cool. And like another poster said Frieza is hiding once more.
Feb 3, 2018 9:06 PM

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Its shitty writing like this that sometimes makes me happy DBS is ending, this ep was just damn horrible, nothing good came out of it and all of GoD Toppo's hype went down the drain.. this was by far the WORST ep ToP has ever had.
I fear for the ending.
Please be amazing or at the very least close to the Goku V Kefla one.
Feb 3, 2018 10:44 PM

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I am verry satisfiedwith Vegetas's actions this episode. He kicked ass the big mouth "justice" Toppo.
Feb 3, 2018 11:34 PM
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The message is all clear.
Sayans at the beggining were a hatred selfish race of warriors that only combined with the humbleness of humanity they could surpass their limits.
As the series has moved on, we see enemies that are the embodiment of pure personalities.

Jiren is absolute PRIDE
And goku has show us many times he is a pure heart enthusiast

The moment Goku and Vegeta reach humbleness...
We all know how this ends
Feb 3, 2018 11:36 PM
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it's toppo's turn to job his ass off now

Next it'll be jiren who by all accounts should be able to finish them all without even powering up but I guess something changed in the last minute?
Feb 3, 2018 11:43 PM

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I absolutely adored this episode. Vegeta getting so much time to shine in Super compared to always being second fiddle in DBZ is what makes this so good. Also 17 is like the MVP of the tournament, it's freaking crazy that he's still in. It's exciting there are 4 people left on Universe 7 to take on Jiren and not just Goku because team fights in Dragon Ball are always the most entertaining.
Feb 3, 2018 11:48 PM
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At least he didn't kill himself this time.

But what a great episode, it had only fighting and fighting. Freiza just got wrecked though.

Cant 17 give vegetarians his energy, seeing as he is an cyborg android, unlimited energy for the win.
Feb 4, 2018 12:18 AM

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Seeing Jiren smile for the first time was very... weird.

Episode itself was kind of weak - art and animation-wise, but I did like the final struggle between Vegeta and Toppo's ultimate attacks.
Feb 4, 2018 12:29 AM
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You know shit's about to hit the fan when the last guy smirks. While 17, Goku and Vegeta face Jiren, Frieza seems to be sneaking around.
Feb 4, 2018 12:42 AM
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It's too easy to have :
- Vegeta getting owned,
- Toppo saying the "perfect" sentence,
- Vegeta has a two seconds reflexion (I'll beat you without casting anything aside !),
=> Vegeta can now nullify the power of destruction.

Yeah, sure...
Feb 4, 2018 12:58 AM

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They turned a self-sacrificing attack which had an actual impact into a just powerful attack with recoil damage. And no I'm not buying the bs that Vegeta became stronger to tank it because the attack was much much stronger as well if it managed to throw out Toppo. The last episodes have been hilariously bad.
Feb 4, 2018 1:11 AM

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I don't care if people gonna rant about Vegeta power up.This episode was amazing and Vegeta prove he is the prince of Saiyan by not discarding everything he hold and his pride.
Feb 4, 2018 1:37 AM

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one of the worst fight in this tournament. Toppo upgrade + concept of Hakai itself have potential for some creative battle, but it's just shitty shouting and blast.
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Feb 4, 2018 2:15 AM
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I'm surprised Toppo got taken out so quickly, I thought he would at least take out Andriod 17 before he falls off the ring. Also in the preview how was Vegeta able to go back in super saiyan blue, didn't he use all his energy up, same goes with Goku, did I miss some sort of information at the start where they said that your energy can be replenished quickly.
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Feb 4, 2018 3:02 AM

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RadTicTacs said:
Kinda lame throwing that emotional DBZ flashback in there only for Vegeta to use the suicide move again but not die this time. For some reason, I feel like it invalidates him using it originally against Buu
It simply goes to show how far Vegetas come since the Buu arc. Piccolo explained it too. Besides, you really thought Vegeta would die this episode?
Feb 4, 2018 3:06 AM

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Vegeta finally had his moment to shine! And Jiren sure is one cocky bastard.
Feb 4, 2018 3:10 AM

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What is this? Did Jiren just show a darker side of him? He even smiled and it was creepy.
Feb 4, 2018 3:42 AM

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Vegeta-sama was awesome!
Feb 4, 2018 4:10 AM

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that vegeta vs boo flashback hit me
Feb 4, 2018 4:54 AM

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We'll I don't know what to say. The whole somber final explosion didn't look or feel as explosive as the one in dbz but this time it got it intended purpose done on the enemy for once.vegetas speech was great.

I think vegeta should have just stayed dead after the explosion though
Feb 4, 2018 5:24 AM

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RadTicTacs said:
Kinda lame throwing that emotional DBZ flashback in there only for Vegeta to use the suicide move again but not die this time. For some reason, I feel like it invalidates him using it originally against Buu
It simply goes to show how far Vegetas come since the Buu arc. Piccolo explained it too. Besides, you really thought Vegeta would die this episode?

Well, no, it was obvious this show doesn't have the guts to kill someone from U7 off (even if death has no real consequence in Dragon Ball). And it's probably just the way I interpreted it, but Piccolo's commentary felt contrived
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