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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Damn, Katakuri's got guts for stabbing himself with that spear. Frampe looked pretty disappointed after seeing that. I can't wait for this next battle between him and Luffy. A battle with pride! |
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Stark700 said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Damn, Katakuri's got guts for stabbing himself with that spear. Frampe looked pretty disappointed after seeing that. I can't wait for this next battle between him and Luffy. A battle with pride! I found the chapter! I wonder how much damage Katukuri did to himself because I'm not sure if Luffy should win this fight. His opponent is just so much superior to him it would be ridiculous if he improved enough to win. |
| So much respect for Katakuri in this chapter! |
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| nice, this is the moment we've been waiting for! it seems like there's a theme with some of our Charlotte Family characters, being picked on for their appearances from childhood. Pudding was the same way. I love that Katakuri threw away his scarf for this fight and allowed everyone to see his fangs, kind of like throwing away his pride for his opponent. and he finally decided to recognize Luffy as a strong opponent. this should be good! |
| Oh my god, I love Katakuri SO MUCH and its no wonder he's my most favorite of the Charlotte Family and it would be cool for him become friendly rivals with Luffy. Also SO HAPPY they shut that annoying little fucking bitch UP, like damn she's up there in the Top Most Hated, along with those D-Bag World Nobles. Not to mention a lot of respect for Katakuri.  |
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| To think his sin would be both gluttony and pride |
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| Never interfere a fight between men. Especially when one respects each others' combat abilities. |
| pretty uch katakuri hyping up chapter... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Awesome chapter. DAMN such great respect from Katakuri. That Conquerors Haki was amazing. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Dat Haoshoku Haki. This is how you build up the climax for a fight,awesome chapter. Katakuris character is pretty much matching up with his badass design now. And lol, Flampe was absolutely obnoxious along with her twisted view. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Katakuri is actually pretty noble when it comes to fighting. He didn't like the underhanded tricks and the unwanted assistance, and even stabbed himself to even the playing field a little bit. I like and respect him even more now. That Haki clash was awesome as well, looking forward to the rest of his fight against Luffy. Also, Flampe has been in the story for like 3 chapters now and I already want her dead. Oda, please make it happen. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
| This is by far the DUMBEST chapter of this arc! Flambe and co. are simply there to make Katakuri injure himself?! She SPITS on him because his MOUTH is weird when the rest of her family look like something out of Dr. Seuss? Where is the Katakuri who wanted to end it quickly and told Luffy to keep his hands off his family?! He's here screwing around just out of respect?! For the man who tried to murder his mother?!?!? What the fuck is this?! |
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| Katakuri.....Salute.....Salute to this Great SOB, he is freaking Great Man with honor that any of his family, expectation being Lola and Chiffron, are not coming close....Staking himself to keep fight Fair...A MAN I SAY!!! More manly than me and I have no shame on admitting that! and this little sister..Flambe....bitch like rest of the family....respect towards her brother....gone just because of his face......and she say she was his number 1 fan.....more like Rapid Fan-GIRL, the kind that gets Restraining Orders from their Idols.... Oh...Luffy starts to get close in OH....this fight is going to hit next level soon. |
| Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill "Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods "Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece)) |
| One Piece at it's absolute best! Brilliant! Typical Oda writing, make a character annoying asf and then annihilate her In the most badass way possible. Reminded me of Luffys punch to the celestial dragon. Katakuri and Luffys combined conquers haki was insane! |
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| The Charlotte family has got some detestable characters but my respect for Katakuri grew after reading this chapter.. |
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| Man flampes such a bitch. Was so satisfying seeing her KOd by haki. Katakuri my dude can u stop...holy shit i didnt even think its possible to like him even more But it happened. This nigga is incredible. Plz oda just give us the nxt chp or 2 completely focusing on the fight |
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| katakuri show respect to luffy Double Conqueror Haki make Flambe Passed out Can't Wait chapter focus on Luffy vs Katakuri battle |
| So that stab wasn't just an observation haki vision. I still think it was a bit of an exaggeration that Luffy was still able to stand, or even start to fight again with an injury like that, but well... It's a shounen manga after all, and the badassery of this episode heavily counterweighs it. So this was the reason why Flampe was there. That's why she was important for the story. Her personality was already annoying. I wasn't expecting her to act like that. She ADORED Katakuri, and when she saw his mouth, she despised him. No wonder everyone gets disgusted by contradicting behavior. I was expecting Katakuri to brutally punch her in the face, or kill her, but apparently, no. Family is important. She still deserved it a lot. So far Katakuri didn't seem that interested in the fight, but when his honor was at stake, he went ahead, and pierced his stomach. He realized how strong Luffy is that he basically... fought a two-front war relatively well. Katakuri's change seemed so sudden, but it was still well-written imo. An asspull power-up would have been too much, but making Katakuri weaker seems like a good way to handle things. Good job, Oda! Some good news: There IS chapter next week, apparently. I got used to having to wait another week whenever there's an enormous cliffhanger. I seriously hope we get to see the end of the fight next week, and the chapter's going to be focused on only the fight. |
| Respect for Katakuri this week. Flambe can just die. The Conqueror's Haki clash this week was great. After that, Katakuri now respects Luffy as well. |
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MoonStar9 said: This is by far the DUMBEST chapter of this arc! Flambe and co. are simply there to make Katakuri injure himself?! She SPITS on him because his MOUTH is weird when the rest of her family look like something out of Dr. Seuss? Where is the Katakuri who wanted to end it quickly and told Luffy to keep his hands off his family?! He's here screwing around just out of respect?! For the man who tried to murder his mother?!?!? What the fuck is this?! >The rest of her family look like something out of Dr. Seuss. 1. No, her siblings are relatively normal looking humans besides the Oda style exaggeration of size and proportions, Katakuri's scar and teeth aren't normal for a human. Before you bring it up I'm excluding the Long Neck, Arm, and Legs siblings since those are from different races and their features are entirely natural. Let me give you an analogy, what would the common person consider more disgusting, an entirely regular looking non human animal species, or a human with extremely rare physical abnormalities? 2. Did you forget about Pudding's backstory, discrimination for looking weird is not unprecedented in the family, in fact you can see it happened to Kata's childhood in this chapter. 3. The point of the matter is that Katakuri wasn't the perfect looking ideal brother she thought she had. >Katakuri wanted to end this quickly. 1. He still wants to, he just doesn't like feeling like he won because of outside interference. 2. Kata's biggest character flaw is based on pride and being the ideal fighter. Fairly won duels are a staple of such. |
| I thought Katakuri would beat the shit out of Flampe, but then they did it with Conqueror Haki. He injure himself only so he can win without any help. that's so noble of him. |
| Aw man, Katakuri... Fucking love you, dude. Franky has some competition for the manliest character now xD |
| OMG, It just dawned on me a reason Oda decided to give Katakuri the Color of the Conqueror even though he isn't a leader right now. Once Big Mom finally falls in a future arc, Katakuri will be the one who takes charge of the Big Mom Pirates, and maybe even become a Yonko himself. Calling it right now, the EOS Yonko will be Luffy, Blackbeard, Katakuri and someone from the Beast Pirates we don't know about yet. Luffy will replace Shanks just like Blackbeard replaced Whitebeard. |
| Meh end this arc already MoonStar9 said: This is by far the DUMBEST chapter of this arc! Flambe and co. are simply there to make Katakuri injure himself?! She SPITS on him because his MOUTH is weird when the rest of her family look like something out of Dr. Seuss? Where is the Katakuri who wanted to end it quickly and told Luffy to keep his hands off his family?! He's here screwing around just out of respect?! For the man who tried to murder his mother?!?!? What the fuck is this?! Ahh so you're the loud woman on YT that still thinks Dyspo is the 1st FTL DB character...stay there. |
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| Level of respect for Katakuri raised. The small sample of the past and his attitude in this chapter was pretty good. |
| This was an awesome chapter! Whole Cake is turning into one of the best arcs in the series for me. |
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| Katakuri basically throw his weakness as well. He's not afraid of showing his face anymore, which means, Luffy can't exploit that weakness anymore. It's good to know that it has been already established that people with Haohshoku Haki are much less rare than Devil Fruits. |
Viktor_Otaku said: This new chapter really did destroy almost everything we know about Katakuri, and after all the effort Oda put into personifying him, it is somewhat disappointing. We get it, it is manly it is honorable. But uptill now, everything we know about Katakuri paints him as a no nonsense, serious person. He is not one to take risk as he clearly wants to kill Luffy before he becomes a threat to Big Mom, but now he purposely handicap himself just because he does not like the way he would win if he don't ? I mean that is some huge writing inconsistencies here. If he had admonished Flampe and told her not to continue to interfere that might be more believable. I mean this guy has no problem telling his subordinates to burn the Thousand Sunny into ash when Luffy is helpless, or to set up a situation whereby the Strawhats are in a incredible disadvantage, being pursued by Big Mom through the Seducing Woods and having to face both him and Prospero when they came out on the other side. If Oda is inserting this duex ex machina plot just so that Luffy can win, then this is poor writing on his part. You're making the same mistake Brûlée and Flambé did, thinking you knew everything about the character. It's not a handicap because it doesn't give Luffy an advantage over Katakuri, it's just that Kata is trying to level the playing field so the victory doesn't feel cheap. Actually it would be an even bigger Deus ex Machina if Luffy manages to beat him in such a bad state while Katakuri is mostly fine. This chapter is about developing Katakuri's own self-acceptance and independency from his family's expectations, notice how he doesn't care about his mouth being seen and doesn't kill his sister when a few hours ago he killed the chefs who saw him. Katakuri's role in the story is just beginning. |
| Words cannot describe how happy I was when Flampe got knocked out from Conquer's Haki. Also, Luffy about to unlock ultra instinct xd Viktor_Otaku said: This new chapter really did destroy almost everything we know about Katakuri, and after all the effort Oda put into personifying him, it is somewhat disappointing. We get it, it is manly it is honorable. But uptill now, everything we know about Katakuri paints him as a no nonsense, serious person. He is not one to take risk as he clearly wants to kill Luffy before he becomes a threat to Big Mom, but now he purposely handicap himself just because he does not like the way he would win if he don't ? I mean that is some huge writing inconsistencies here. If he had admonished Flampe and told her not to continue to interfere that might be more believable. I mean this guy has no problem telling his subordinates to burn the Thousand Sunny into ash when Luffy is helpless, or to set up a situation whereby the Strawhats are in a incredible disadvantage, being pursued by Big Mom through the Seducing Woods and having to face both him and Prospero when they came out on the other side. If Oda is inserting this duex ex machina plot just so that Luffy can win, then this is poor writing on his part. In case you have not noticed, Oda has been showing Katakuri starting to acknowledge Luffy's ability the past 2 chapters. Katakuri wanted to quickly kill Luffy at first because he thought Luffy wasn't strong enough. Katakuri clearly stated he is now view Luffy as equal. It makes sense there is also a change of treatment, or Katakuri would be a 2-dimensional character instead. Also, keep in mind One Piece is a shounen manga. Honorable battle between men is a must. |
Viktor_Otaku said: If Katakuri acknowledges Luffy's ability, then he should be trying to kill off Luffy even harder. Seeing as he also views Luffy as a potential threat to Big Mom and the potential implications it will bring. Viewing somebody as an equal does not mean that one must handicap oneself for the notion of honor and self-satisfaction especially if the character was explicitly described as being the opposite of that (serious, efficient). The irony here is that this chapter is actually making Katakuri look more like a 2 dimension character typical in a shonen manga. Though I agree with you on the last paragraph, guess I am expecting too much from a shonen manga series that started off in the 90s. Katakuri handicapped himself because it makes up for the unfair outside advantage he got in the fight. Luffy even said that it was his own fault for not dodging Flambe's attack, but Katakuri insisted because he respects his fighting ability. Also I think you missed the entire point of Katakuri. All of that seriousness and perfection was just how he wanted everyone to perceive him, but he's actually just as flawed as anyone else. You sound like Flambe right now lol. If Oda didn't add flaws to his character, he would've just been a boring "2 dimensional character typical in a shonen manga" with a badass design. |
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| Now it has became a battle of pride, but that only gave Luffy a fighting chance since he stabbed himself. I think Oda knew people were sceptical about Luffy coming out winning after being beaten so badly and were questioning the logic of his win( hence the handicap). But as for me I wanted to win even if facing those odds( he won facing them against Lucci), even in life logic doesn't always apply. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| That was awesome. I already like Katakuri and now I like him even more. That was great and I'm glad they shut up Flambe. Haoshoku Haki was fantastic and I am so hyped for this fight now. |
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| Katakuri gets more respect from me after this chapter. But despite how manly this fight might get, it can't be manlier than Senor Pink vs Franky. |
| Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts. |
| Damn massive respect to Katakuri! |
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