Higeki no Genkyou to Naru Saikyou Gedou Last Boss Joou wa Tami no Tame ni Tsukushimasu. Episode 2 Discussion
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| Ivy Pride displaying that lady aura and elegance is almost impressive to see. It doesn't feel like too much developed into the story yet but Pride is getting used to her royality life. Tiara might be someone worth paying attention to though for her royal heritage. Stale Royal Ivy is also interesting to follow for being such a clever young man in this timeline. It looks like he's keeping a vow to protect Pride. |
Stark700Jul 13, 2023 8:44 AM
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| not bad i have to wonder thigh the dream stale had how did he have it it defies logic but this is a fantasy so logic doesn't exists here any way i think gilbert is suspicious or something |
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| can't wait for the romanceeee |
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| Want to know who Gilbert really is. Hope they do not miss to opportunity to develop him as an evil boss |
| I'm glad Stale has become Pride's ally wholeheartedly! It was nice how the anime managed to portray Stale's emotions and change, once he realizes Pride wasn't that awful game version of herself. I'm sure he will be a good ally for Pride in the future. ^^ |
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| Basic bread villainess story, I’m gonna peace out on this one. |
| Evil chancellor. Check |
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| This is getting better and better. New storytelling from new perspectives—yes, we get to see most of the main characters and main supporting characters having their own lines in this episode. It feels like I won't get disappointed by this pacing even a bit, I hope the quality gets better instead of going down. Every scene, every line and every move of the adaptation is certainly detailed, but the hair—is kind of disappointingly simple. I really must say this, the animation of their hairs feels unnaturally still and steady or somehow (idk the term/word for it) without light reflection or it isn't created in much detail. However, Princess Pride's hair earlier in the party was surprisingly beautiful. I can't wait for the next episode! P.S. No, Pride is much more cuter with that smile of hers.  Btw, looks like she is acting more natural this episode, great job! |
CrazyButNot4UJul 13, 2023 10:53 AM
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Two episodes in and they still haven't explained why Stale was forcibly taken away from his mother. I know he has a special ability, but it doesn't really explain why he is not allowed to see his mother every now and then. With the exception of introducing Tiara this was a very boring episode. |
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| I've seen plenty of Otome Isekai before but I think this is the first time I've seen the family as deplorable as the Villainess turned Protagonist. According to Pride herself, not just her specifically but her family has done away with many maids with calls of punishment and the death penalty. And not only that they take some kid with powers away from their family, put them in handcuffs so they won't escape, and basically force him to become Pride's brother and assistant by making him sign a Contract of Fealty. I've seen cartoony evil villainesses before but this one is just plain evil. I hope we get to see Pride become a Queen and change whatever traditions her family has. So far she's already has a good start by treating her staff like human beings. I'm curious to see where this goes. |
| Gilbert's power clearly has gone to his head. Eternal youth making him the eternal power behind the throne and so on... Makes you wonder how much of Pride's original awful personality may have been the result of his manipulation. |
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hannibal_l said: So, Pride is definitely pretty dense, but it's not that she doesn't believe she can change anything in the story, she's just convinced that the evil aspect of her personality is still alive deep down, and that there's likely no escaping her fate in the end. So, instead of trying desperately to stop it from happening, the story is more about her trying to correct all the wrongs in the game until that time comes.This episode has confirmed that pride is dumb she hasn't realized that things can be changed including her death she has already altered few sequences but is not aware (Not that i hate it since most of the previous villainess animes had the fmc running around changing stuff while being fully aware while pride has accepted her death that happens in the future and wants to be a good queen until then) i do hope she catches on but i don't think it will happen anytime soon might take some time It looks like the chancellor guy has some history with the old pride and wants to destroy her reputation by spreading false rumours . Looking forward to next episode |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Ok if they’re going to keep the political drama stuff going this is going to be very good, and move up my faves of the season ranking very easily. Loved the show from the jump, but I loved this episode even more. I love stale’s approach of making himself Pride’s political weapon as opposed to going directly to the crown Prince and queen with a complaint. Really respect that about his character. The letter from his biological mother was a touching moment, but him locking it away signified his transition to truly being apart of the royal family. I like how Pride acknowledges that she has a natural proclivity to disliking tiara because she looks like their mother and is praised so much. A small detail, but one that really enhances the episode as it lets us know that she’s predisposed to some emotions. I’m very much looking forward to seeing pride try to change the kingdom for the better. Reminds me a lot of Anis and Euphilia |
Marinate1016Jul 13, 2023 12:48 PM
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AnimesDaisuki said: This was a misleading translation, Pride would call for the deaths of her maids if they displeased her, but the worst that might happen would be that they got fired, and even then I believe that would be a more extreme circumstance, not just because Pride threw a tantrum. But yeah, the thing about kidnapping children and forcing them into the royal family if they have desirable powers, is definitely fucked up. I've seen plenty of Otome Isekai before but I think this is the first time I've seen the family as deplorable as the Villainess turned Protagonist. According to Pride herself, not just her specifically but her family has done away with many maids with calls of punishment and the death penalty. And not only that they take some kid with powers away from their family, put them in handcuffs so they won't escape, and basically force him to become Pride's brother and assistant by making him sign a Contract of Fealty. I've seen cartoony evil villainesses before but this one is just plain evil. I hope we get to see Pride become a Queen and change whatever traditions her family has. So far she's already has a good start by treating her staff like human beings. I'm curious to see where this goes. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Alex_the_reaper said: otome game ga flag... oh no i got Reincarnated as a vilainess... nop the reason why Raeli... not that one either XD the genre seems to be very copy paste from other shows but its the same as isekais overall, i find it enjoyable, just wished the mc wasnt so worried about the endings where she dies if reality already told her she can change the game Raeliana is totally different as she’s not the main character in the story. |
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AddaeAkono said: Two episodes in and they still haven't explained why Stale was forcibly taken away from his mother. I know he has a special ability, but it doesn't really explain why he is not allowed to see his mother every now and then. With the exception of introducing Tiara this was a very boring episode. Idk what was unclear, he’s not allowed to see his mother obviously to break the ties that bind them. The royal family have done this many times to people. Pride steps in and wants to change that hence why she allows them to communicate. The whole gist is pride and the family were very evil prior to the reincarnation. |
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| Sometimes I wonder if the messed-up behavior of evil OG Pride was a result of losing her dad, who seems to be the only present parent. Though he did spoil her, so I'm not entirely sure. Also, I find the names of the characters quite amusing. They feel stale to me. Anyway, overall, she seems intelligent for her age. The country's policies still confuse me. I understand the concern about protecting state secrets, but this method seems foolish. You and most of the audience probably don't understand why she thinks that way, haha. Well, it seems like harem member #1 is now solidified, although I'm not sure if this is actually a harem. You and your lies, dude. Oh, look, it's the absentee mother... she disappoints me. However, her little sister is undeniably adorable. Haha, that comeback from Stale. And Pride's words definitely dealt some critical damage to him. But I guess I can understand the mother's worries due to her own visions, considering her royal ability or whatever. Still, it feels like a "self-fulfilling prophecy" in my eyes. Not exactly good parenting. |
IzanaSolosJul 13, 2023 2:13 PM
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hannibal_l said: The difference is that she views Pride turning evil as an inevitable conclusion, because Pride was the "final boss" of the game, and she believes that the "evil Pride" is still alive in her heart. I'm not saying it makes sense, but it's something she's probably not going to stop believing until the very end. I think it should be pretty obvious how the story is likely to play out from here, and her being dense is more or less a requirement. lolLostSpectre said: So, Pride is definitely pretty dense, but it's not that she doesn't believe she can change anything in the story, she's just convinced that the evil aspect of her personality is still alive deep down, and that there's likely no escaping her fate in the end. So, instead of trying desperately to stop it from happening, the story is more about her trying to correct all the wrongs in the game until that time comes. Interesting 🤔 But why doesn't she believe that her death can be avoided when she has already saved her father who was destined to die? It'd like to believe that the game version of pride had quite a strong impression on her while playing . |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| I'm really enjoying this. I knew what I was getting into when I started watching and so far the show has delivered! I quite like new Pride as a character and can't wait to see her grown up. For once we get to see how evil exactly the villainness here is. It's not like she was just spoilt, petty and got in the way of the mc's romance, but her personality was super twisted and sadistic. I like that we see how Pride's old past/ future effects the new Pride. I feel like it makes a lot of sense. I'm very interested to see where the plot takes us and what's up with Gilbert and how much the story changes now that Pride isn't actually evil. |
| "Oh, I wasn't trying to be funny.. I would've put a 'Haha' at the end of it." |
| I think it's important to note that when Pride was feeling jealous of Tiara, the context for why she's feeling that way isn't properly explained. Here's the same scene from the LN. The important difference is that it's clearly implied that the girl who reincarnated has never felt jealous of children getting more attention than her, but because she's now Pride, she couldn't help but feel jealousy well up inside of her, before quickly affirming that despite that, she would never be mean to Tiara. "In my past life, I never thought twice about other children getting more attention than me. But something about being Pride sent a stab of jealousy right into my heart. Tiara was just so cute, so charming. Everyone kept remarking how much she looked like Mother. I wished they’d say the same about me, but no one ever compared me to my parents here, despite my sharp eyes and bright red hair." |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| OG Pride was a complete monster damn, but I kinda wish she would take the wheel from time to time to make things spicy. |
| Nice animation error on the ear lol was funny catching it in the wild They didn't remove the red line / colour to mark overlap. A few frames later the lines are black so it defo wasn't 'lighting'.  |
| Wow, that prime minister is very suspicious. |
| admittedly, this anime is not interesting, so far. but i've listened to the OP the whole week since the first episode, such a banger!! tsukuyomi really cooked. |
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| So the parents know about Evil Pride and do nothing to help her? Sure they are messed up to other people(kidnap and killing maids), but to their kid as well? Bruh, what's with this "kind & wholesome" portrayal to them? Maybe that's the point? I hope so. That would be fun if the anime actually criticize them. |
LostSpectre said: I don't get what's misleading about this? Her family still let her do death sentence for the maids, that's messed up.AnimesDaisuki said: This was a misleading translation, Pride would call for the deaths of her maids if they displeased her, but the worst that might happen would be that they got fired, and even then I believe that would be a more extreme circumstance, not just because Pride threw a tantrum. I've seen plenty of Otome Isekai before but I think this is the first time I've seen the family as deplorable as the Villainess turned Protagonist. According to Pride herself, not just her specifically but her family has done away with many maids with calls of punishment and the death penalty. And not only that they take some kid with powers away from their family, put them in handcuffs so they won't escape, and basically force him to become Pride's brother and assistant by making him sign a Contract of Fealty. I've seen cartoony evil villainesses before but this one is just plain evil. I hope we get to see Pride become a Queen and change whatever traditions her family has. So far she's already has a good start by treating her staff like human beings. I'm curious to see where this goes. |
EdgyLord666 said: Read it again. LostSpectre said: I don't get what's misleading about this? Her family still let her do death sentence for the maids, that's messed up.This was a misleading translation, Pride would call for the deaths of her maids if they displeased her, but the worst that might happen would be that they got fired, and even then I believe that would be a more extreme circumstance, not just because Pride threw a tantrum. I said the worst thing that might happen is that they get fired, hence why the other maid pleaded that the younger maid had nowhere else to go. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| I think they should have given Stale the opportunity to write a letter to his mom at least more than once a year but it’s nice this was done for him at all compared to the last timeline lol, the game version of Pride was truly evil from the flashbacks. And of course, even tho Pride is correcting everything, we have Gilbert over here plotting something behind the scenes, but thankfully Stale has picked up on it and has already shown that he can go up against Gilbert verbally, he sadly suffered emotional damage when compared to Gilbert by Pride tho lol. And Pride’s sister Tiara is very cute, definitely looks the part of protagonist although that isn’t the case this time, and it’s also nice that at least for now she’s not a protagonist turned villain which we’ve seen in other series like this one, and also Pride simping for her was great lol. And an interesting thing about the current Queen, it seems to me like she can see the future with the way she talked about Pride changing, not 100% sure tho, but that would be cool if true. And that ED was very nice, I liked it a lot. |
TheColonel76Jul 14, 2023 5:54 AM
LostSpectre said: Okay I get it, so what's the actual translation?EdgyLord666 said: Read it again. I don't get what's misleading about this? Her family still let her do death sentence for the maids, that's messed up. I said the worst thing that might happen is that they get fired, hence why the other maid pleaded that the younger maid had nowhere else to go. Btw, I watch this on muse asia. |
| Curious how the game will process in the middle and resolving everyones goal will take some time.. |
TheColonel76 said: And an interesting thing about the current Queen, it seems to me like she can see the future with the way she talked about Pride changing, not 100% sure tho, but that would be cool if true. Inheriting this ability was specifically mentioned as a prerequisite for becoming the queen, so yes, she should have it too. |
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luinthoron said: TheColonel76 said: And an interesting thing about the current Queen, it seems to me like she can see the future with the way she talked about Pride changing, not 100% sure tho, but that would be cool if true. Inheriting this ability was specifically mentioned as a prerequisite for becoming the queen, so yes, she should have it too. What's interesting is... What happens to the MC when the game knowledge runs out? LOL Cause while they said she's suppose to be able to see the future, but the current MC-Pride hasn't shown any hint of her seeing the actual future... all she's been doing is using her game knowledge... Whereas the OG-Pride is supposedly to gain her future-seeing power right at that moment when she fainted, except in the game she didn't get taken over by the MC-Pride's soul and gets the power. (I believe this was the future Pride's mom saw when she previously saw Pride obtaining Precognition, but since MC-Pride's changing things by changing her personality, Pride's current future is now changed) |
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