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Aug 17, 2012 8:16 PM
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Makoto is a Fucking asshole
Aug 29, 2012 11:58 AM

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darkvoltage said:
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The fact that he is shallow is what allows him to cheat. I do not believe he has no feelings for either of them. The reason he when out with kotonoha was because of her body, which was a foolish mistake. Based on tragic circumstances he ends up falling in genuine love with sekai, though his desires may have pushed him more so to cheat.

His second foolish mistake was to not break up with kotonoha, though he had the intent neither he nor sekai had the heart to do it.

Sekai made her own mistakes of course, such as suggesting the 'practice' in the first place, and accepting makoto before he broke up with kotonoha.

Kotonoha seems to be the only character that didn't make any big mistakes, she just seems to be incompatible.
(pervert + shy girl = doesn't work)

Maybe I'm just naive/gullible but I seem to think makoto is not just saying those things to use the girls, but rather is in a dispute about trying to figure out his own feelings. Quite similar to Takayuki's inner dispute in KGNE, which I probably should talk about here xD
Ironically, a lot of people hated him to.

Or perhaps it is just because they hate it when the main character is confused? Or something xD

But anyways, to answer your question I do not dislike him, but I don't really like him either xD
I think that if he knew what he was doing, he would have dumped kotonoha and started a proper relationship with sekai in the first place.


Those are good points. I don't know, at this point it's hard to say anything for sure, but one thing I have to disagree with you is that Makoto loves/is confused about them. It seems to me that facts point to him lusting after Sekai and no longer being interested in Kotonoha because she disappointed him by being too shy for his sexual interests.

Still, I don't hate any of the characters. It's just that I like them to different degrees - I like Sekai most and Makoto least.

BTW, just so you know darkvoltage, sometimes when people say "I like you" in anime, it's the same as saying "I love you" - or at least that's my conclusion after watching a lot of anime, because it seems that 'suki da' or 'daisuki' or whatever can have two meanings - I like you (alot) or I love you.

And to answer your earlier question, "USODA" which Kotonoha said at the end, is "No way!" "Lies!" "It can't be true!" or something along those lines. It can be interpretted in many different ways, but the basic meaning is that it's an exclamation of denial and shock.


never knew that, i like you could be i love you, good to know. i figure that usoda was something like that. it just felt like she was saying lies or somthing.


You hit dead on the with the meanings, "the basic meaning is that it's an exclamation of denial and shock." That's about the most accurate translation I can think of...
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Aug 30, 2012 2:42 PM
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Good ending!!!

Nothing remains secret for long...
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Oct 23, 2012 8:30 AM

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Makoto is such a pig, I can't stand him anymore. He doesn't even have the guts to tell the truth to Kotonoha while she's falling even deeper in love with him. I guess Sekai is to be judged too, but I really find it hard to do so, when her lover is so weak-charactered in the first place. I think that he'd be deserving whatever happens to him from now on.

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Kotonoha's out for blood. (Or at least that's what the music was telling me?)

Well, I didn't give much thought to the music(although I liked it very much), but the red thread lead me to pretty much the same mind.

I always forget to comment on this, but I really like the idea for different ED's each time, but the same OP always.
Nov 3, 2012 3:11 PM

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Quite a sad ending, I feel quite sad for her and I think Makoto is just to get some sex out of her...

Hmm quite sad but expected, lets see what will happen next!
Nov 8, 2012 9:44 AM

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I'm happy that Makoto is going for who he really loves, but what I'm NOT happy about is how he's going about it. Seriously bro, the way you're acting now, both of those girls are too good for you.
Nov 16, 2012 8:15 PM

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I think I understand much better than most fans what's going on. Makoto saw how beautiful kotohana was and wanted to be with her just based off of that, which is a typical mistake almost any guy can easily make. He met sekai along the way and found that they really click and that he can be himself around her. He realizes that she's much better for him than kotohana, but he's too much of a pussy to break up with her. So, this is the result, him treating her like trash, but I can't really tell if he cares that he's doing this...
Nov 26, 2012 2:55 PM

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Music + red thread = I like where this is going!

Those girls are too good for that fucker.
Jan 4, 2013 9:51 AM
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This is one messed up episode.
Kept on skiping some scenes.
Seki confes to Makoto,kotohana heard what they saying. This is bad!
Makoto you son of a bitch.
1/5

EDIT Why do i keep on watching this?
If he ain't doing relationships, than there ain't going be a problem.
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Well the end of the episode got pretty ominous... haha. I don't get why he didn't just break up with Katsura when he had the chance, though. I don't know if he really ~loves~ Sekai or not (it's doubtful tbh) but it's clear that a big part of why he likes her is that she's willing to be more sexual with him. Which, you know, nothing wrong with that, but he knows Katsura isn't ready for that and he doesn't want to work at making her happy, so I don't get the point of keeping her hanging on like this. Now she's found out in the worst possible way. Eep.
Feb 12, 2013 12:39 AM

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i feel so bad for kotonoha... shes such a nice girl and deserved the best. picked on throughout school and then finally meets someone who she thinks is actually interested in her.. just ends up being a perv who screws her over.. Man I hate this guy...
Feb 12, 2013 12:41 AM

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i feel so bad for kotonoha... shes such a nice girl and deserved the best. picked on throughout school and then finally meets someone who she thinks is actually interested in her.. just ends up being a perv who screws her over.. Man I hate this guy...


Lol wut
Mar 22, 2013 5:27 AM

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Why does every girl like that spineless jerk?

Can someone enlighten me, since I''m obviously too ignorant to figure it out?
Mar 22, 2013 2:23 PM

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Polychrome said:
Why does every girl like that spineless jerk?

Can someone enlighten me, since I''m obviously too ignorant to figure it out?

I forgot what exactly happens at episode 6, so spoilers just in case I reveal too much.

Apr 3, 2013 9:30 AM
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This is the third time I am saying this. Makato is a JERK!
May 11, 2013 3:07 PM

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Makoto is total loser. He doesn't have the balls to to break up with Kotonoha.
The only thing he wants is to get laid.
May 11, 2013 3:46 PM

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Makoto is a boss.
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May 20, 2013 1:03 PM
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Makoto can go rot in hell for all I care. I can't stand Makoto toying with Sekai and Katsura's feelings. He is just an obsessed sex guy who can't contain his urges. We see him feeling on Sekai during class and even going far as to touching her down there during class. I'm sorry to say this but I hope Makoto dies a painful death because he just toyed with Katsura's feelings, her sister's feelings, and he's making Sekai unhappy by only pleasing her.

Also did anyone think the red ball yarn was a foreshadowing of bad things to come?

Jun 1, 2013 10:25 PM

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MugiKotomiChan said:

Also did anyone think the red ball yarn was a foreshadowing of bad things to come?


Red ball of yarn falling down the stairs accompanied by "shits gonna happen" music with a broken hearted teenanger. This just got interesting. Makoto better prepare for some good old fashioned psychotic retribution (also maybe Sekai might wanna gtfo there).
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Aug 4, 2013 11:28 PM

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Really now? We have a third girl who just happens to be infatuated with this inadequate guy? I've tolerated Sekai for this but for Kato, I think this is just ridiculous. That aside, things just got interesting in the end. How will Katsura react?
Aug 18, 2013 6:33 AM

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So Makoto didn't have the guts to end this broken relationship.
Well too bad Makoto, now it's too late.
Aug 21, 2013 6:55 PM
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All of these characters are pissing me off, especially Makoto. He doesn't give a damn about any of these girl's feelings, all he wants is sex, sex, sex, sex, and
Sep 30, 2013 2:36 AM

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i took the whole shock, that was bad one, oh man, the shit is gonna get real, what's we have now, Makoto you're a goddamn matherfucker bitch who plays with the other's feeling, you have to choose one of them, and now you're cheating on the two of them with the two of them<--- well, you won't understand this sentence, i really can't predict about what will happen at the next episode but i have an image in my head, Makoto at the first of the 7th ep will be smiled like an idiot and make shitty stuffs with the both girls
i want to say that whatever will happen to him, i won't feel bad for him, i really want him to die
Oct 5, 2013 1:33 AM
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All of these characters are pissing me off, especially Makoto. He doesn't give a damn about any of these girl's feelings, all he wants is sex, sex, sex, sex, and
teenagers...

I feel sorry for Katsura, she didn't deserved that. What an jerk , he is giving fake hopes to Kotonoha... and Otome too, those girls really like jerks.
Oct 6, 2013 10:22 AM

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Busted! It's about time. Makoto is still lower than dirt, but that two-timing has to stop. Poor Kotonoha finding out the way she did though.
Dec 30, 2013 9:13 PM

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i don't really get what happened while the song was playing. who sent what texts to whom? who's nanami? that girl who saw makoto and sekai leaving the classroom together, who was she? what made katsura suddenly leave the committee meeting to confess her love to makoto? how did she know he was gonna be on the roof?
Jan 12, 2014 4:29 AM
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even though I was rooting for sekai I'm starting to feel sorry for kotonoha... Itou is really horrible to both those girls
Jan 21, 2014 7:17 PM

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I feel so bad for Katsura, she changed so much for him, and he now rejects her (without even being good enough to tell her).

and that ending, we all knew it was coming sooner or later =o

Apr 2, 2014 1:08 AM

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She finally cought them, now this should be interesting.

May 4, 2014 9:08 PM

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i still wonder why is it that hard to just.....f***ing broke up with other girl
May 25, 2014 3:00 PM

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hehehe, yandere mode : activated
What I'm the most interrested in is how far will Makoto push the button by lying to Kotohana. Also, will Sekai really be able to live with the remorse? I'm not sure about that.

Anyway, that episode was depressing as fuck. That's what I was waiting for »=)

Well, I think it's confirmed that Makoto is a obscessive compulsive liar and a nymphomaniac. He also show sign of a sociopath, acting all normal while getting more and more distant with Kotohana. Those remorseful face he do doesn't really look like remorse but more like a face of a man who is annoyed by a girl following him. Sekai completely lost it when she have sex, which is a pretty regular case about cheating people. Kotohana is trying so hard to cheer Makoto, but he doesn't give a fuck.

The thing is that Sekai love Makoto, but Makoto seem to be more interrested in having sex with her than being with her.

It's funny to see that the role have exchanged between the characters. At the beginning, it was Sekai that was manipulative, Makoto that trying to make Kotohana happy and Kotohana avoiding him. Now Sekai is being manipulated by Makoto, Makoto is avoiding Kotohana and Kotohana try her best to get a better relationship with Makoto. Such a shitty situation.

Also, poor Kotohana getting bullied by those girl. I think theres actually only one girl I like and it's the little loli. I like emotionless girl that keep getting in other business :P

Those two close-up on the needle were way too foreshadowing xD
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Jun 5, 2014 7:16 AM
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Thank the gods she finally found out. I couldn't take another 6 episodes of that.
Jul 14, 2014 11:12 AM

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Zarnaav said:
HikariJake said:
All of these characters are pissing me off, especially Makoto. He doesn't give a damn about any of these girl's feelings, all he wants is sex, sex, sex, sex, and
teenagers...

I feel sorry for Katsura, she didn't deserved that. What an jerk , he is giving fake hopes to Kotonoha... and Otome too, those girls really like jerks.


Girls like the Ares hole what do you expect............

Ite never ever ever the nice guy who gets the girl.....It's always the Ares hole
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Oct 4, 2014 12:33 AM

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.___________.

This episode was so difficult to watch. Poor Katsura. POOR KATSURA. Fucking douchebag Makoto. At least Sekai feels guilty - not that it excuses her or makes her any less of a man stealer. Katsura became far more bold and I was so proud of her for standing up to that snobby chick, then... then... oh heavens. POOR KATSURA. Fucking douchebag Makoto.

I hope she kicks him in the nads.



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Oct 19, 2014 8:28 AM
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Makoto might have no redeemable qualities. The guy is a complete (and lucky lol) jerk.
Nov 21, 2014 4:18 PM

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I feel very bad for Katsura. I have liked Sekai from the start but this wasn't the way she should have played things out. Makoto is just a jerk. I get the conflict but he's, again, going about it in the worst possible way.
Dec 3, 2014 1:21 AM

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It's a little scary how she changed from shy to this.
But it was good to see her standing up against the other girl.

But that ending.
Dec 9, 2014 7:17 PM

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Makoto and Sekai are really pissing me off for being such jerks. Won't even be mad if Katsura knifes Senkai.


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Dec 29, 2014 12:20 PM

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Sad to see Katsura really trying hard to make that relationship work while that two-timing bastard just cares about getting some and doesn't know whats empathy supposed to mean. At least Sekai is showing some remorse, but she's also at fault for not urging him to break up enough.

And now that bratty Otome girl has also fallen for that jerk...
Jan 15, 2015 1:13 PM

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Well I will write here what I think about all the characters that nearly everyone hates here.
1)Makoto - fell in love with Kotonoha, was trying to make Kotonoha happy but she wasn´t "synchronized" with him, whatever he did she acted weird. When trying hard, his friend offered him her help to make the couple happy. During this helping, they accidentally had a sex. He fell in love with Sekai and was trying to not let Kotonoha know, he didn´t want to hurt her feelings because of his kindness.
2)Kotonoha - Fell in love with Makoto, her actions weren´t clear at all so Makoto had great problems with understanding it. After some time, she started working really hard to be a good girlfriend for Makoto.
3)Sekai - Fell in love with Makoto and cared only about his happiness. Because of that, she helped him to start dating Kotonoha whom he liked. While trying to help him some more, they had sex and since that time they were secretly dating each other. She felt guilty for it and wanted to tell Kotonoha about it.
I think that none of them did anything bad. The only problem was in Kotonohas weird reactions.
May 27, 2015 1:22 PM

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This was really entertaining :D
Ah, nostalgia, I remember being a sucker for stuff like this as a little girl :)
Jul 27, 2015 7:17 PM

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This... This episode is where I start to hate Makoto.
He had a chance to actually make this right and now he's just being a childish piece of shit.

Sekai is actually trying to do the right thing and tell him this is NOT the correct way to handle this and Makoto is becoming very manipulative to get what he wants. He's making both girls depressed as he keeps pushing himself on Sekai and ignoring Kotonoha and wow! She found out. I'm interested in what she'll do from here.

I have a feeling this anime gets so much hate as the "worst anime" because of Makoto but... the drama itself isn't too bad, I don't think? It's for sure entertaining because it's so messed up.

In all honesty, it kinda of reminds me of some past things that happened to me, more or less being in Kotonoha's shoes. So I can at least say this is realistic. But I know the other girl he was fooling around with didn't feel as guilty as Sekai did.

Aug 7, 2015 3:41 PM

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That was difficult to watch. I hate everyone in this goddamn anime except Katsura. I feel sorry for her.
Oct 5, 2015 5:19 PM

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IT'S CONFIRMED!:

Worst. MC. EVER!! None of you can't believe how much I hate him.
He's really the worst kind there is. Such a bad character.

It's only the 6th ep... Yep... I think there's going to be some crazy sh*t ahead.
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Well I will write here what I think about all the characters that nearly everyone hates here.
1)Makoto - fell in love with Kotonoha, was trying to make Kotonoha happy but she wasn´t "synchronized" with him, whatever he did she acted weird. When trying hard, his friend offered him her help to make the couple happy. During this helping, they accidentally had a sex. He fell in love with Sekai and was trying to not let Kotonoha know, he didn´t want to hurt her feelings because of his kindness.
2)Kotonoha - Fell in love with Makoto, her actions weren´t clear at all so Makoto had great problems with understanding it. After some time, she started working really hard to be a good girlfriend for Makoto.
3)Sekai - Fell in love with Makoto and cared only about his happiness. Because of that, she helped him to start dating Kotonoha whom he liked. While trying to help him some more, they had sex and since that time they were secretly dating each other. She felt guilty for it and wanted to tell Kotonoha about it.
I think that none of them did anything bad. The only problem was in Kotonohas weird reactions.


I hope you're being sarcastic. I really do...
And let me say something: One does not simply have 'ACCIDENTAL' sex.
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Oct 9, 2015 7:35 AM
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Who wrote this shit? It's so incredibly stupid. Makoto doesn't give a fuck about Kotonoha, but he doesn't break up with her, instead he acts like some grumpy husband. And undressing on the roof during school hours? Did the writer just play out one of his fantasies or something? So damn ridiculous.
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Makoto is such a pig, I can't stand him anymore. He doesn't even have the guts to tell the truth to Kotonoha while she's falling even deeper in love with him. I guess Sekai is to be judged too, but I really find it hard to do so, when her lover is so weak-charactered in the first place. I think that he'd be deserving whatever happens to him from now on.

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Kotonoha's out for blood. (Or at least that's what the music was telling me?)

Well, I didn't give much thought to the music(although I liked it very much), but the red thread lead me to pretty much the same mind.

I always forget to comment on this, but I really like the idea for different ED's each time, but the same OP always.


Sekai is a worthless cunt. She have helped Kotonoha build a relationship with Makoto, then she betrays her like this. If Sekai had any character she would have denied Makoto until he had broken up with her.
Oct 21, 2015 1:49 PM

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Sekai cares about Kotonoha's feelings but Makoto doesn't appear to, it should almost really be the other way around. He's just using Sekai for sex. But if Sekai liked him before she shouldn't have bothered to set him up with another girl in the first place.

I definitely think Kotonoa will be out for blood.
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Everyone is being a cunt towards Kotonoha, but Makoto takes the cake for being the biggest knobhead.
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