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| Random killings, flat characters and relationships, dull plot... honestly I stopped caring as we got to the final few episodes, can get this to a 5/10 I suppose. Big disappointment for me. |
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| The biggest disappointment of this season was how useless of a character the Chocolate man proved to be and how our main found their tragic end because of associating with him instead of something else. At least Iok idiot died and thinks became better. |
| What can I say... shit ending. |
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| Finally finished this one. It took me ages to finish the anime despite the fact that i was enjoying the episodes. I didn't like the end. I didn't like how cornered Tekkadan was and had no way to win. They had to sacrifice themselves just so some of them would escape. Rustal got away with everything he did and let a very bad taste in my mouht. At least he changed things around so what Fareed was trying to do Rustal did...mostly it seems. Julietta survived...why? She should have died when Mika won against her in that last battle in space. It didn't make sense for Mika of all people to not kill her. She was such a nuisance and deserved to die. They let her live just so she would be the one to acknowledge the main characters efforts on the battlefield. Iok died...good. At least he died. I knew Mika was going to die in the end, but Orga too? C'mon. Fareed was useless for the most part. I though he would have some trump card, but he didn't have anything. He was just counting with Tekkadan to do all the dirty job and when they got overpowered by those OP forbidden weapons they lost. What he did was made the changes possible in the whole system and in the end in was beneficial for those who survived. I guess the writers wanted to have an end where the main characters didn't win the fight like usual. I can understand that, but i'd rather had they win those last fights even if they didn't got everything they wanted. |
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| So no damn way I could like this episode with Rustal Elion living it up at the end...thanks for ruining the entire season 2 for me by allowing that shit bag to get off scott free. He was just as much a piece of shit as the trash Nobliss... I'd even been fine with an unoriginal dual toilet death scene, him tripping down some stairs and breaking his neck....ANYTHING...but as it is I'm just pissed at this whole season due to this. At least Iok is dead though (most annoying pansy ever....@#%#$ I wanted him dead his first episode), but to even somewhat kind of in the smallest of ways off set how they ended it with Rustal, they needed the death scenes of Iok and Nobliss to last like 15 mins of the 20 mins final episode. Maybe..just maybe if I got to watch them squirm in agony that entire time, I could have overcame just a WEEEEEE portion of my extreme annoyance that mother fucking Rustal is just dandy still...and that ho bag Juliet is still alive (why the @#%$^% didn't that bioch die 3 or 4 episodes ago, all the legit characters died real deaths dammit, no coming back, yet half the shit ass bad guys somehow lived on (happened with SEVERAL different characters, SEVERAL times...so dumb)....anyway, why the @#$# couldn't you just kill that ho Juliet off already...then you let HER...of all people take credit for killing Barbatos....she didn't even do shit, dammit!!!!!!). I mean I get it can't be all sunshine and roses, hence half of Tekkadan getting it, the best Turbines characters all getting it, all of the decent organizations dissolving, but they just had to let mother f'ing Rustal be sitting pretty at the end. I can deal with the rest, but not Rustal on top of all that....... WTF was the author smoking??? Literally just leaves a very awful taste in my mouth about this whole damn season.... WTF were they thinking letting him off.... My ONLY solace is that I pray Ride and his bunch find that piece of shit, but dammit they could've shown it or eluded to it... I'm fine with sad endings and death and such, but tales of revenge are my favorite, and this was just the worst of the worst.... **SIGH** Ah, grrrr....nothing else to say, was just a huge disappointment for me because of this. |
StacycmcApr 29, 2018 2:49 AM
| well this conclusion sure felt empty and lackluster. time well wasted on a meaningless 50 episodes of gundam... |
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HibiChika said: well this conclusion sure felt empty and lackluster. time well wasted on a meaningless 50 episodes of gundam... Yeah, very well put. |
| Wow what absolute garbage this season was. |
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| Why did Tekkandan and Teiwaz had to get screwed all over to hell and back in the second half? Damn, did that second half piss me off. As for Iok, goodbye and good riddance you retard. |
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JizzyHitler said: WhiteApple said: the dirtiest man in the whole series was arguably mcgillis not rustal. The entire series conflict was basically because of mcgillis' revolution even at the start where he was using tekkadan to his dirty work killing off carta and disrupting power in the ghjalahjorn. Rustal was a neccessarry evil to keep stability even if that gave way to corruption in the world, mcgillis would of offset that balance and set the world into an anarchistic power hungry struggle.You cant call her innocent either. She works under Rustal, who was the dirtiest man in the whole series. McGillis was a traitor towards galwhatever (I don’t hate him though) and brought so many members of tekkadan down with him. |
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| Hmm, what to say about Iron Blooded Orphans. I find that the only Gundam timeline I like is UC and the alternate ones not so much. I like this better than Gundam Wing, at least. There are a lot of obvious plot contrivances and and unintelligible political rambling about vague ideals. There is no fighting for democracy or rule of law, just crass grabs for power. The escape tunnel was a real deus ex machina; I don't know in what universe of logic planting an illegal weapon on your enemy make it legal to use the same illegal weapon by your own forces. Like many anime, it treats teenagers as fully rational adults, but with the added ick of child soldiering and lolis who accept the responsibilities of the brides of Imperial Japan. Say what you want about Rustel, at least he wasn't a lolicon. Truly, an anime for the 21st century of neocons, neoliberals and trash anime as we've lived it. The emotional writing is fairly strong and the handling of homosexuality was pretty tasteful. The ending wraps up nicely, until one realizes they didn't give an ending to Elmiria's story. We even see Team Evil's evil sexy redhead engineer (who was obviously best girl, btw) one last time, but not Pedo-Char's bride. Might have been nice to see more of Smooth Criminal Azee, that lesbian chic damn I was actually surprised Rustel and Julietta never bought it, and that Tekkadan and Fareed failed miserably. I was pretty sympathetic to Julietta (second best girl) since she was kinda my type and certainly the least bad. I was pleased Iok paid for his heinous murders in the most brutal way possible (and the dumbass ofc had no idea why he was getting this divine retribution). Kudelia's political career, which we never see many details about, is what ultimately succeeds at getting a measure of reform accomplished, as opposed to insurgent violence; but only because the main antagonist apparently agreed with her the whole time? The death flags came pretty fast and furious and while I detected them all pretty quickly I did kinda hope I would be wrong. |
| Elgar is dead. The tunnel is finished. Dainsleif. Mikazuki!!!!! Akihiro!!!!! Mikazuki gets back up. Oh shit! Akihiro.... Mikazuki's cockpit. Akihiro found Iok. Ike!!! Akihiro! Kill Iok! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IOK IS DEAD!!!!!!! Akihiro is the GOAT! Akihiro.... Mikazuki's harem is praying for him. MIKAZUKI!!!!!! Barbatos!!!!!! Kudelia cut her hair. Bael. Akihiro and Mikazuki name on the grave. No more Human Debris. Dat bitch Julieta. Eugene. Gaelio in a wheelchair. Hey, Gaelio. Julieta eats butterfly. Makanai is dead. Takaki. Chad. Dante. Ride is missing? And that was the end. It was ok. If there was a problem I had, it would be that the Gundam had no presence. I can see Barbatos, but don't feel anything from it. I look at Wing Gundam and I can feel that its there. Akihiro killing Iok and Ride killing Nobliss left me satisfied. I'll miss my waifu's Kudelia and Fumitan. Shoutout to Eco. RIP Orga and Harem King's Mikazuki Augus and Naze Turbine. I'll do my best to become the next Harem King. |
RobJul 30, 2019 2:58 AM
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| For me this season was way better than the first one, in fact during this season I actually start caring for the main characters. This show got a sad ending, but I have to say that it doesnt really bother me since it was well executed. It feels like our protagonist are more the antihero type than your usual all goody idealistic group who wants to save the world. Mika sure is cold and brutal, and at some point (specially during first season) I even felt more empathy for some of the enemies than the protagonist. However, I still end up at least understanding the position he and the others were in, and that at the end of the day it was just kill or be killed. If I could point a few negatives, it would be that pretty much the only gundam you will see breaking havoc is Barbatos. Sure there are a few other gundams and cool mechas, but aside from the Barbatos vs Mobile armor, plus a few other battles between the other characters, most of what you see is Mika owning pretty much everything without breaking a sweat. In other gundam series I remember more epic battles between gundams. Other problem perhaps could be the antagonists. What I mean with this is that during first season most people would assume that Fareed is the main antagonist, specially considering that not only he betrays his Friends, but he also indirectly use our protagonist to achieve his goals getting several of them killed in the process. However during second season he is actually allied with Tekkadan and the new antagonist is Rustal Elion. The problem with Rustal for me is that while he is indeed corrupt, he clearly is not in the wrong and the way in which the story develops during second season feels a bit like what happens in gundam seed Destiny, meaning: Our protagonists swap roles and becomes antagonists, Big difference with seed Destiny from Iron blood is that in iron blood we don't lose the focus from the protagonist, so the main focus keep being Tekkadan. While in seed Destiny it is just one of the protagonist who end up in an antagonistic role. Still, even considering all that, this show was ok for me. |
| IBO feels like Akame ga Kill in the skin of Gundam franchise. And even as shitty as AgK is, at least the show actually punished the antagonist. And Mikazuki is probably one of the worst Gundam protag in the entire franchise, only slightly better than the universally hated ones like Kio or Kira. I really couldn't careless about them getting off'd for good and letting the biggest douchebag to probably die of old age comfortably in a warm bed. Should just let Nagai had his way since the fans of this show apparently likes to oversells the "REALISM GAIS GOOD PEEPS DIED AND SHIT LMAO" part to show why it's better than Naruto or Bleach. |
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| How can this ending be so satisfying yet so disappointing at the same time. |
| I honestly thought I was gonna hate this s2, and I kinda did, but only because the bad guys did win. But I give it 8/10 because the overall story, tone, messages, and script outweigh any negatives I really has. Funny how the two seasons were the polar opposites of each other, s1 having Tekkadan triumph with the world worsening, whereas s2 has them losing and dying out in exchange for the world finally becoming an easier and better place to live. It wasn’t ideal, but the overall payoff wasn’t as bad as I initially thought it would be. Audiovisuals were amazing as always. |
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| best and most enjoyable gundam I've seen so far. Damn depressing tho. Kudelia is waifu. Also.. only thing I'm disappointed about is that Mikazuki didn't make baby with Kudelia as well. |
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| I appreciated at least some of the scum getting what they deserved. Iok, the idiot, deserved to go out like the punk he was - And I loved watching Akihiro go full Berserk Guts on his ass. Nobliss getting gunned down on the toilet was the perfect ending for the shit stain, he was. Overall, rough feelings were felt but it was a solid ending. |
| "The speck of fear grows in your eyes You'll meet your death in no disguise It may come as a small surprise There will be no compromise for you" - Nikopol Lyrics, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann |
| What a series. I enjoyed this second season a lot, and I did not expect that ending. 9/10 |
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| Love the downfall of Tekkadan. Not every anime you see this kind of "unfortunate" development for our protagonists. Unfotunately the S2 antagonists ruins completly the anime. At S1 I felt fair because both sides lose important figures in the same way like Tekkadan does but at S2 all of them had plot armor! Really, Julieta & Iok should be death episodes ago (I only can forgive Gaelio one since his participation in S2 is well made). ... and speaking of Iok, HE IS THE WORST CHARACTER OF ALL GUNDAMVERSE. Seriously, he is a unbearable reckless i--ot who gives foreign shame. That he is the reason of Naze's death is an insult for me. I would prefer an random black suit guy kill Naze than the bad of Iok. Would be better is Iok exchange roles with the bearded mercenary Galan. Galan has brain and would be more sinister if he was responsible of the awakening of the Mobile Armor + downfall of Turbine instead be responsible of the boring mini-arc of the Tekkadan's earth branch. McGillis is a disappointment, so much plot to get the Gundam one but nothing to do after getting it? And Mars got its happy ending yay.... wait wat... all Tekkadan's struggle and downfall was to get that goal, that's why they joined McGillis (implying that if Rustal take over Ghallahorn, he would keep Mars as colony from Earth) , only to die in "vain" because Rustal would give it the independence anyway... and why did he do that? He didn't say anthing before.... exactly! THERE IS NOTHING OF BACKGROUND/STORY ABOUT ELION RUSTAL. He was just there because yes. Only to give a face the Ghallahorn's enemy branch. that is all... wow that add more bad taste to all this. The anime should just ended in season 1. |
| Hmmm well that was pretty good. The final battle seemed appropriate, and the epilogue gave some good closure to everything. Rustal retained power but made needed changes, and the Tekkadan members got to do things instead of fighting. I feel like Julietta is a very poorly developed character with one personality trait and then a sudden change. That could be said of others too. Her dialogue at the end felt sort of forced, a somewhat clumsy moral to the story. Overall, the second season seriously stumbled in the middle with mobile armor, bad character development, contrived plot points, and an overabundance of character deaths in very telegraphed ways. After the end, it turned out better than it was going for a while thankfully. When I really think about this second season though, it really feels like more than half of it could be totally cut with almost no issue. There's a lot of padding here that really doesn't do a service to anybody, either the characters or the audience. |
satyrelfheimDec 9, 2020 9:23 AM
| I forgot how good this show is, a bit too tragic but atleast Iok died. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| OH my, So many people here hated the whole season 2 While I enjoyed almost EVERYTHING about it. I don't know. I don't watch every gundam in existance. maybe this is one of the worst ones. but I just loved how even every death results in everyone else moving forward. 10/10 for me. Most of the last 6 episode was Heart crushing for me. and I love when a show does it right. It's easy to see melodrama for the sake of melodrama which takes you out of the experience. but this was the exact opposite. every death, every victory, every loss added to it. and Rustal was such a Jerk yet magnificent Antagonist. Olga Best character |
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| Surprised that they killed off all the protags and let the "bad" guys live. The dude Rustal committing war crimes and hes now president of the universe. Leaves a bad taste in ya titties. |
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| I'm one of the people also disappointed with this ending. I really liked the premise and the build up but I feel these last 10 episodes or so have just been all over the place. One of the biggest issues is pretty much all the new characters added were unlikable or just full of "plot armor". There is no realistic way Julieta should be alive, she lives and our main characters die because that's the "realism" of war, just doesn't add up. Also McGillis turned into a complete caricature of himself at the end, and to top it all of his dream is lived through Rustel and not Gaelio? A man who showed no remorse and his position to root out corruption came out of nowhere? At least with Gaelio it would have been earned and felt way more natural. Overall a 7/10, great action, great premise, some great characters but it just fell short at the end IMO. |
| I would be lying if I said the finale isn't a tad bit disappointing, but I feel it was just about right even then. Mcgillis's plan to unsettle the world big time would've brought even greater chaos and Tekkadan couldn't possibly have overcome the might of the Arianrhod Fleet without some key sacrifices, so I'm satisfied somewhat with the narrative here. Fact that Rustel was the one pulling the strings behind the complication in Tekkadan's Earth branch and got away with it is honestly what bothered me most. It was the arc that really impressed me because of the dark tonal change, and so left quite an impression. I suppose Ride's team will try and get Rustel next but I doubt they'll even get close, but well that's life. At least he carried over some of Mcgillis's ideologies, although that kind of felt for the plot's convenience. Seeing the other members lead a different life now was very reassuring. Merribit-san expecting her second child, that's quick development lol. Takaki's on his way to greatness as well, that's nice! Mature Atra looked stunning though, Mikazuki missed it lmao. Little Mikazuki seemed to have the perks of the late Mikazuki coupled with a bit of mischievousness. I'm glad they spared a whole 10 mins for it. All in all, I found this season to be more engaging this season with the stakes obviously higher and the arcs getting right to the point. Also, it might sound weird, but how Tekkadan had to face the harsh consequences of their decisions, it felt more realistic and touching this way. 8/10 from me. Goodbye, Tekkadan! You'll not be forgotten. |
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| GAELIOCHADS WE WON Great, bittersweet ending, I'm really glad Okada had the balls to do this. Every side was morally grey as hell, so it only made sense to come to this. Yeah, Rustal was as bad as McGillis, but in the end Tekkadan's sacrifice give the push for changing Gjallahorn's and Mars. Him "winning" is realistic. 8/10, much better than S1 but people will complain because one child soldier who happened to be on the wrong (?) side survived. |
| I prefer the S1 over this one but it's still not enough for me to lower the score. 7/10 could have been better if it wasn't rushed. |
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| This is my first ever Mecha anime that i watched and after finishing it it crushed my soul, that fool Julietta really won against Mika which isn't fair, It just isn't, Mika wasn't ready to die, he had so much he promised to Kudelia & Atra but ended up dying as a hero together with Akihiro, also Orga died a gruesome death, I still can't believe it, both Lafter & Orga shot dead for no reason, I'm really happy that Kudelia & Atra are together now with the baby, I really wish them well in their future adventures, and rip to all tekkadan soldiers that died on the battlefield, at least Ride got his revenge for the death of Orga, he literally shot Nobliss dead in the bathroom, he deserved it, also i will never ever forgive Rustal for his foolish actions. Anyhow apart from that, this was such an amazing story and the characters were amazing, visually it looked awesome as well, really hope those who survived will live a peaceful life. Tekkadan forever. |
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| The first season was quite good, but the last five episodes ruined that impression. The second season was so-so for most of the time, but it clearly improved towards the end. I find the last few episodes splendid and wouldn't change anything about them (maybe except for Shino's death). In fact, this closure is probably the most full, complete and satisfying of all seven Gundams I've seen. Except for Shino's death and poor Yamagi having been left behind, I enjoyed everything here. I loved it how we didn't really know who is good and who is bad in the final battle, a marvellous solution! We supported the Tekkadan, but we could clearly see that the other side is right, too. (Except for Iok, who shouldn't have been given mercy to live until the episode 25; he was even more annoying than Catra, and stupid to the bone). I loved it how the main character (Mika) was psychologically disturbed (bordering a sociopath) and never changed into someone else - and how the very same can be said about McGillis. I hate it when the creators suddenly and baselessly change the character's personality and turn the bloody bastards or psychopaths into caring individuals (see Lelouch, yuck), but here they stayed themselves, and we just had to accept that. (I agree I was pretty upset when McGillis showed his true colours, because I considered his and Gaelio's friendship very beautiful). It was great that in IBO the creators wouldn't whitewash anyone, only show that the characters, even those most disturbing or hardly likeable, were just humans: with bad and good traits, with aspirations and desires, and someone who must suffer the consequences of who they are and what they do. I loved it how there was a downfall of the protagonists (quite a unique approach) and how the main heroes didn't survive the story. No sugar happy end, and yet there WAS a happy ending for many characters, and the general message is positive and full of hope. I loved it how the show ended with the final battle of Tekkadan vs. Gjallarhorn on Mars - exactly like it had started; a beautiful symbolism. I loved the development of Gaelio, who grows up and become a complete man during the second season. He was such a kid at the beginning, but then he comes as a very wise man in the end. Julieta is another character that grows during the second season. It can be also said about many characters in the Tekkadan, Eugene and Ride above all. I loved the novel approach to the theme of the relationships: we pretty much had a relationship of three people, the underage making children (pretty courageous, I'd say, for a show addressed to the teens), and then a family of a kid and two moms at the end. All in all, the ending of IBO improved my view of the series as "finis coronat opus" and left me greatly satisfied. Even though I haven't become a Gundam fan despite trying for half a year, I'm certain IBO would stay on my mind for a longer time. |
| These last two episodes, I had a feeling Mikazuki wasn't going to survive this. And he didn't, nor did Akihiro, nor did Hush, and nor did other members of Tekkadan. I wanted Rustal Elion to die. I wanted Julieta to die. I wanted Gaelio to die. I wanted everyone who plotted against Tekkadan to die. Turns out Rustal Elion made Gjallarhorn better. The irony is that he couldn't have done it without the so-called McGillis Fareed Incident. Without him, things would've stayed as they were and no changes would've been brought. He doesn't seem to be a dictator, at least. He made Gjallarhorn more democratic which means he gave up some of his power as the most powerful of the Seven Stars remaining, and he signed that Human Debris Abolishment Treaty with Kudelia. So he did give some good stuff. I still don't like him though, and maybe I still want him dead. Because it was his fault that Tekkadan died, and that Tekkadan became a name that wasn't respected, but rather hated. I'm on the fence for Julieta as well. She doesn't seem as bad and stupid as I first thought, but I can't forgive him for making Shino fail. I guess I don't want Gaelio to die as much anymore. His position is understandable, as his best friend murdered his childhood friend and tried to murder him as well. But boy am I glad that Iok Kujan died, and he died painfully by the hand of Akihiro. How fitting. It's great seeing how everyone ended up. Kudelia becomes the chairperson of the Martian Union and kicking arse at it. I see Takaki is doing well on Earth. Eugene and Chad doing good work under Kudelia. Zack and that big buy finding decent jobs. The Old Man and Ms. Merribit raising a cute family together! It seems Yamagi, Dante, and that ex-Human Debris boy are doing well as well. And of course, we have mini Mikazuki. He looks cute. He looks like Mikazuki but with Atra's hair. Grown up Atra sure is real different, she got tall. I'm glad that they're all happy and it seems that after everything they finally have a more peaceful existence for them. But in the end, this did not end the way I thought it would. Usually, the enemies of your protagonist don't win. And here they did, and somehow because of that the world's a better place. And not because the protagonists were evil either, but it's just how things ended up. It's hard to say who the villain is, though personal feelings make me hate Rustal Elion still. 8/10. |
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