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Feb 10, 2019 12:16 AM
#301
Gnop2 said: Well it's not that big of deal, but the way Dororo uses "aniki" is similar to in a more modern setting, the way gang members call their mentors. Even if "big bro" or something similar isn't entirely the same, it conveys respect or admiration just like "aniki" does, seeing how Kyakkimaru isn't Dororo's actual brother and he just started calling him that out of his own volition. The other translations they used mean basically nothing, while "big bro" would at least carry some of the meaning of the original expression. Fair enough, I just think it'd be weird without context for her to be calling him her brother out of nowhere. As long as the translation gets the point across that's fine, personally I don't really think it's fair to say the translators translated it incorrectly when the change they made was likely done with the intended meaning in mind. |
Feb 10, 2019 7:09 AM
#302
poor mio. feels bad man. but hey yato i mean hyakkimaru got his voice back, well in exchange of his leg |
Feb 10, 2019 9:07 AM
#303
Well this was probably the most tragic episode so far We finally meet the girl from the opening, Mio, and Hyakkimaru has fallen in love with her voice. Actually, it seems to be the only sound he likes at all. Everything else is too overwhelming for him, which is understandable. I knew what Mio was doing the moment she says she only works at night. Its awful that a child has to sell herself away every night just to keep her family alive. Also, I’m incredibly annoyed with the amount of people bashing her for doing this. I’ve actually seen people say that she’s nothing but a dirty slut that doesn’t even deserve to breath the same air as Hyakkimaru 🙄 Also, Hyakkimaru now has his voice back. It’s a shame the first time he ever uses it is to let out a scream of pain. And now he just lost a leg he just regained while fighting a demon:/ I hope things get better in the next episode, but with this anime, it seems things are only getting darker |
Feb 10, 2019 9:17 AM
#304
RafaelCLP said: Episode starts: wtf is wrong with this animation, it looks like girl is washing her pu**y... Episode ends: oh... This ain't reddit, nobody cares about your lame jokes or give you upvotes for it. |
Feb 10, 2019 11:05 AM
#305
kaaamos said: this is an ultra-bleak fictionalized version of historical Japan. You disrespect women's history by assuming she has different paths to pursue while still providing for 5+ children on her own.Drunken_angel said: kaaamos said: How is she flawless? She's poor, she resorts to whoring herself to others instead of finding other ways to make money. I don't understand you. Those are not flaws, those are her social circumstances. I don't think that as a low-class woman in a war-torn, poor village she could've done anything else to earn enough money to take care of all them kids :/ For what I have seen, there are no negative qualities in this character. She's selfless and just, she's gentle and kind, she's not judgemental, she's an archetype of a helpless victim, but she's not flawed, at least not in my mind? Oh, side note - I'm all up for debates and discussions, so if you wanna talk more feel free to message me, but I do kinda think that we're going in circles here :D And hey, I'm not trying to be insolent, this is simply my honest opinion on the character :D As I've said, I don't think she's the worst character ever, also I love this show !! Might be my favurite this season ! Alright, I just have to say I hate this kind of mentality that women are helpless victims and she couldn't do anything other than whore herself, it takes away all of her agency and the wieght of that choice, that while it reflects poorly on her, she's still doing that for a noble cause. As I see it, you're the one making her character flat. While if they were to idealize her, she would I don't know, be able to provide for the kids while running a company on her own and driving off bandits on her own (being a STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN, which would be of course unrealistic). Being a realistic, multifaceted character, she has flaws and virtues, which is why I'm liking her character very much. This isn't some fluff anime |
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Feb 10, 2019 12:46 PM
#306
FuMomo-kun said: I knew what Mio's job was the moment the kid said she only works at night to get paid more. I knew what she was doing the moment I saw she was washing her crotch rofl. You guys are too slow. |
Feb 10, 2019 12:50 PM
#307
ananizkim said: Remnius said: You can guess what her job was from her first scene. She was cleaning herself out. Tbh, when we first saw her it's not exactly clear what she is doing in the water. So, you can drop the "I'm very smart that I understood her job from the very beginning lol" act. Though the later talk when the kid mentions she is working at night is a dead giveaway. I wasn't saying that to put on airs about being smart. She was in a stream with no clothes to wash or items to hold water. She was holding her clothes up yet she was just standing in the stream instead of trying to cross. Add to the fact that there is a camp full of soldiers nearby and that's what I got. Just because you didn't think anything about it, don't assume others didn't either and don't talk down to me by claiming I was putting on an act. I don't need to stroke my ego. I was just sharing. |
Feb 10, 2019 12:51 PM
#308
Remnius said: ananizkim said: Remnius said: You can guess what her job was from her first scene. She was cleaning herself out. Tbh, when we first saw her it's not exactly clear what she is doing in the water. So, you can drop the "I'm very smart that I understood her job from the very beginning lol" act. Though the later talk when the kid mentions she is working at night is a dead giveaway. I wasn't saying that to put on airs about being smart. She was in a stream with no clothes to wash or items to hold water. She was holding her clothes up yet she was just standing in the stream instead of trying to cross. Add to the fact that there is a camp full of soldiers nearby and that's what I got. Just because you didn't think anything about it, don't assume others didn't either and don't talk down to me by claiming I was putting on an act. I don't need to stroke my ego. I was just sharing. Someone sounds salty, lol. |
Feb 10, 2019 1:28 PM
#309
Well, just wait for tomorrow episode. Personally I'm dropping the series, not gonna watch tomorrow ep since I spoiled myself with oldie Dororo anime and manga, and I'm pretty bad at handling depression. Unfortunatelly what comes in following eps is just more and more suffering without any bright moments. |
Feb 10, 2019 1:51 PM
#310
Yet to see any credible sources saying that this will be more than 12 episodes. If anyone knows any, please share them. The ones linked before are not credible. I've searched in English and Japanese and not found any information. The main Dororo Wikipedia page says 24 (no source), animenewsnetwork lists 24 (not shown in the source), and a tweet from some rando is floating around that says 24 (again, no source). We're 5 episodes in with at least 4 demons down. That pace doesn't indicate they're planning for 2 cours. I'd love to be wrong, but looking at the evidence, we're most likely rushing towards a finish on 12. Sadly. ----------- I liked this episode a lot, seeing Hyakkimaru struggling to process the thousands of constant noises of the world... It's understandable why it would be completely bewildering for him. I'm curious how they're going to deal with him having his voice now, whether he'll speak or not... Since he's been deaf and blind until now, he shouldn't be able to understand speech, yet he seems to. When the priest came back and spoke about the demon, Hyakkimaru got up right away to go and battle it. Even before he got his hearing back, he seemed to understand much more than he logically should. It's like a kind of telepathy. I only hope Jukai's still around. It looks Hyakkimaru will need him again, poor boy. |
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Feb 10, 2019 3:10 PM
#311
Apparently, the staff said that Dororo is 24 episodes in this talk show yesterday. https://www.eventernote.com/events/195022 People on Twitter said they're happy to hear it confirmed in the talk show. |
e_hobaFeb 10, 2019 3:18 PM
Feb 10, 2019 7:30 PM
#312
Yeah, when Mio said shes working at night in an army camp, that should have been the obvious clue of her "job" It was really sad to see her at the end struggling so the kids can have a decent meal on the next day. I really like how Hyakkimaru gets more human with each episode by gaining a new bodypart and yet also gets weaker. He relies on his limbs as tools but now that hes feeling pain again and having real limbs means that he has to fight more carefully and not as reckless like hes used to do. Right now I have no clue how the story will progress, Someones gonna die prob. I guess it will be Mio and/or the kids. e_hoba said: Apparently, the staff said that Dororo is 24 episodes in this talk show yesterday. https://www.eventernote.com/events/195022 People on Twitter said they're happy to hear it confirmed in the talk show. I was expecting 12 episodes with this pacing but if they really confirmed 24 episodes then im fucking happy. Thanks for sharing. |
Feb 10, 2019 9:24 PM
#313
Yep, kids will be burned alive and Mio will be killed other way. Fuck this anime, I'm out. |
Feb 10, 2019 10:57 PM
#314
I knew she was prostituting.. reminds me of fucking Goblin Slayer Rape scene. I just cant stand these scenes it makes me depressed. But nice ep tho fuck i wont be able to sleep tonight. |
Feb 11, 2019 1:14 AM
#315
e_hoba said: There are a lot of tweets saying 2 cours and I saw there's a pamphlet(?) at the event that has Dororo as airing from January to June. Looks like it's finally confirmed then! Thank you!Apparently, the staff said that Dororo is 24 episodes in this talk show yesterday. https://www.eventernote.com/events/195022 People on Twitter said they're happy to hear it confirmed in the talk show. ------------- I wonder what was happening with Hyakkimaru's aura this episode. It was a brief moment, but the priest saw flecks of red among the white. What does that mean? He hasn't always looked like that, has he? In the priest's sight, along with Hyakkimaru's, I understand that red is the colour of evil, so... Why would he be becoming like that? |
YandereYuuyaFeb 11, 2019 1:55 AM
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Feb 11, 2019 4:54 AM
#316
Zip_Zip said: Yeah, when Mio said shes working at night in an army camp, that should have been the obvious clue of her "job" . Watch it again, Sherlock, she didn't say such a thing. It was the kid who mentioned she works at night . mrbull3tproof said: Yep, kids will be burned alive and Mio will be killed other way. Fuck this anime, I'm out. Insecure snowflake who doesn't care about spoiling the story has been detected.. |
Feb 11, 2019 7:49 AM
#317
KingKatsura said: kaaamos said: this is an ultra-bleak fictionalized version of historical Japan. You disrespect women's history by assuming she has different paths to pursue while still providing for 5+ children on her own.Drunken_angel said: kaaamos said: How is she flawless? She's poor, she resorts to whoring herself to others instead of finding other ways to make money. I don't understand you. Those are not flaws, those are her social circumstances. I don't think that as a low-class woman in a war-torn, poor village she could've done anything else to earn enough money to take care of all them kids :/ For what I have seen, there are no negative qualities in this character. She's selfless and just, she's gentle and kind, she's not judgemental, she's an archetype of a helpless victim, but she's not flawed, at least not in my mind? Oh, side note - I'm all up for debates and discussions, so if you wanna talk more feel free to message me, but I do kinda think that we're going in circles here :D And hey, I'm not trying to be insolent, this is simply my honest opinion on the character :D As I've said, I don't think she's the worst character ever, also I love this show !! Might be my favurite this season ! Alright, I just have to say I hate this kind of mentality that women are helpless victims and she couldn't do anything other than whore herself, it takes away all of her agency and the wieght of that choice, that while it reflects poorly on her, she's still doing that for a noble cause. As I see it, you're the one making her character flat. While if they were to idealize her, she would I don't know, be able to provide for the kids while running a company on her own and driving off bandits on her own (being a STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN, which would be of course unrealistic). Being a realistic, multifaceted character, she has flaws and virtues, which is why I'm liking her character very much. This isn't some fluff anime Oh sure, I'm disrespecting "women's history" by thinking women could and can do more than open their legs to earn a living lmao. You feminists are utterly disgusting with your victimism. |
Feb 11, 2019 8:24 AM
#318
ananizkim said: Zip_Zip said: Yeah, when Mio said shes working at night in an army camp, that should have been the obvious clue of her "job" . Watch it again, Sherlock, she didn't say such a thing. It was the kid who mentioned she works at night . The kid mentioned it first, yeah but the girl also said she willl be working for the enemy tonight or something along those lines. But who cares, who of the both said it first. The point is it was pretty obvious what kinda work it was. |
Feb 11, 2019 1:36 PM
#319
kaaamos said: we are strictly speaking "could" not "can", this is a historical issue. What would u expect her to do in the alternative? Get shonen powers and be a bounty Hunter? Start a shop in a barren drought ridden desolate land scape? Or perhaps, abandon the kids to die and make ends meet for herself in some sort of low means labor job?KingKatsura said: kaaamos said: Drunken_angel said: kaaamos said: How is she flawless? She's poor, she resorts to whoring herself to others instead of finding other ways to make money. I don't understand you. Those are not flaws, those are her social circumstances. I don't think that as a low-class woman in a war-torn, poor village she could've done anything else to earn enough money to take care of all them kids :/ For what I have seen, there are no negative qualities in this character. She's selfless and just, she's gentle and kind, she's not judgemental, she's an archetype of a helpless victim, but she's not flawed, at least not in my mind? Oh, side note - I'm all up for debates and discussions, so if you wanna talk more feel free to message me, but I do kinda think that we're going in circles here :D And hey, I'm not trying to be insolent, this is simply my honest opinion on the character :D As I've said, I don't think she's the worst character ever, also I love this show !! Might be my favurite this season ! Alright, I just have to say I hate this kind of mentality that women are helpless victims and she couldn't do anything other than whore herself, it takes away all of her agency and the wieght of that choice, that while it reflects poorly on her, she's still doing that for a noble cause. As I see it, you're the one making her character flat. While if they were to idealize her, she would I don't know, be able to provide for the kids while running a company on her own and driving off bandits on her own (being a STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN, which would be of course unrealistic). Being a realistic, multifaceted character, she has flaws and virtues, which is why I'm liking her character very much. This isn't some fluff anime Oh sure, I'm disrespecting "women's history" by thinking women could and can do more than open their legs to earn a living lmao. You feminists are utterly disgusting with your victimism. |
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Feb 11, 2019 1:55 PM
#320
KingKatsura said: kaaamos said: we are strictly speaking "could" not "can", this is a historical issue. What would u expect her to do in the alternative? Get shonen powers and be a bounty Hunter? Start a shop in a barren drought ridden desolate land scape? Or perhaps, abandon the kids to die and make ends meet for herself in some sort of low means labor job?KingKatsura said: kaaamos said: this is an ultra-bleak fictionalized version of historical Japan. You disrespect women's history by assuming she has different paths to pursue while still providing for 5+ children on her own.Drunken_angel said: kaaamos said: How is she flawless? She's poor, she resorts to whoring herself to others instead of finding other ways to make money. I don't understand you. Those are not flaws, those are her social circumstances. I don't think that as a low-class woman in a war-torn, poor village she could've done anything else to earn enough money to take care of all them kids :/ For what I have seen, there are no negative qualities in this character. She's selfless and just, she's gentle and kind, she's not judgemental, she's an archetype of a helpless victim, but she's not flawed, at least not in my mind? Oh, side note - I'm all up for debates and discussions, so if you wanna talk more feel free to message me, but I do kinda think that we're going in circles here :D And hey, I'm not trying to be insolent, this is simply my honest opinion on the character :D As I've said, I don't think she's the worst character ever, also I love this show !! Might be my favurite this season ! Alright, I just have to say I hate this kind of mentality that women are helpless victims and she couldn't do anything other than whore herself, it takes away all of her agency and the wieght of that choice, that while it reflects poorly on her, she's still doing that for a noble cause. As I see it, you're the one making her character flat. While if they were to idealize her, she would I don't know, be able to provide for the kids while running a company on her own and driving off bandits on her own (being a STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN, which would be of course unrealistic). Being a realistic, multifaceted character, she has flaws and virtues, which is why I'm liking her character very much. This isn't some fluff anime Oh sure, I'm disrespecting "women's history" by thinking women could and can do more than open their legs to earn a living lmao. You feminists are utterly disgusting with your victimism. Hyakkimaru lives by fishing and eating whatever he finds, Dororo lives by stealing other people's food, Dororo's mother never had to resort to prostitution. I'm just saying that thinking "she's forced to do this" is wrong, maybe if she wants to live and eat like a normal person, that would be the only job that she could do and that's fine. But again, that is her CHOICE (!), she is choosing to sacrifice herself, I'm sure she could find other ways to survive and/or even part ways with the orphans. When you say she has no agency in the matter, you're reducing the importance of the character and of her choice, you're victimising the character like an spectator on her own life, this just isn't right. |
Feb 12, 2019 5:59 AM
#321
Are all of Tezuka's works this grim? This is a dark series. |
Feb 12, 2019 12:21 PM
#322
kaaamos said: KingKatsura said: kaaamos said: KingKatsura said: kaaamos said: this is an ultra-bleak fictionalized version of historical Japan. You disrespect women's history by assuming she has different paths to pursue while still providing for 5+ children on her own.Drunken_angel said: kaaamos said: How is she flawless? She's poor, she resorts to whoring herself to others instead of finding other ways to make money. I don't understand you. Those are not flaws, those are her social circumstances. I don't think that as a low-class woman in a war-torn, poor village she could've done anything else to earn enough money to take care of all them kids :/ For what I have seen, there are no negative qualities in this character. She's selfless and just, she's gentle and kind, she's not judgemental, she's an archetype of a helpless victim, but she's not flawed, at least not in my mind? Oh, side note - I'm all up for debates and discussions, so if you wanna talk more feel free to message me, but I do kinda think that we're going in circles here :D And hey, I'm not trying to be insolent, this is simply my honest opinion on the character :D As I've said, I don't think she's the worst character ever, also I love this show !! Might be my favurite this season ! Alright, I just have to say I hate this kind of mentality that women are helpless victims and she couldn't do anything other than whore herself, it takes away all of her agency and the wieght of that choice, that while it reflects poorly on her, she's still doing that for a noble cause. As I see it, you're the one making her character flat. While if they were to idealize her, she would I don't know, be able to provide for the kids while running a company on her own and driving off bandits on her own (being a STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN, which would be of course unrealistic). Being a realistic, multifaceted character, she has flaws and virtues, which is why I'm liking her character very much. This isn't some fluff anime Oh sure, I'm disrespecting "women's history" by thinking women could and can do more than open their legs to earn a living lmao. You feminists are utterly disgusting with your victimism. Hyakkimaru lives by fishing and eating whatever he finds, Dororo lives by stealing other people's food, Dororo's mother never had to resort to prostitution. I'm just saying that thinking "she's forced to do this" is wrong, maybe if she wants to live and eat like a normal person, that would be the only job that she could do and that's fine. But again, that is her CHOICE (!), she is choosing to sacrifice herself, I'm sure she could find other ways to survive and/or even part ways with the orphans. When you say she has no agency in the matter, you're reducing the importance of the character and of her choice, you're victimising the character like an spectator on her own life, this just isn't right. Agreed in that it's her choice and we shouldn't victimize her, but it's kinda sorta disrespectful to talk about how she "could find other ways" and how she's flawed because of that. Not saying that you are wrong or something but Mio's mindset is probably as simple as: "I have to do this, then I do it" which is a valid mindset when you do have a bunch of crippled children to feed in a war torn village. This whole discussion is brought under the assumption that her views on prostitution operate the same way as yours or KingKatsura's and that may very well not be the case. I haven't yet seen episode 6 and this may change if it's brought in a different light but she acts under an agenda: war made her lose everything and she does not hesitate to try to take it back. That's why she also starts to work with the enemy side. So yeah, precisely because she seems to have an agency in all this we should also look further beyond "she's whoring herself, she's disrespecting herself" and try to understand the character under her own morals and needs. Not necessarily through framing her acts as acceptable or preferable -I'm not asking you to do that- but to understand why she does this instead of... whatever alternative you are thinking of. |
jal90Feb 12, 2019 12:25 PM
Feb 14, 2019 10:34 PM
#323
Zetsuji said: Ratio20 said: I was still In shock not used to seeing stuff like. I still feel sorry Go back to One Piece. Thanks you are a nice guy. |
Feb 15, 2019 10:03 PM
#324
So, Mio is a prostitute. Now, Hyakkimaru have his voice back. Good. |
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Feb 16, 2019 9:30 AM
#325
fuck, that was dark |
Feb 16, 2019 8:32 PM
#326
Feb 19, 2019 3:30 PM
#327
ah shit, he already lost his leg well at least he's used to using prosthetics |
Feb 20, 2019 4:59 AM
#328
This anime is pretty overated imo and i can see why but it's still good |
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Feb 28, 2019 8:48 AM
#329
Mio what are you doing here? You were supposed to be in Hyakkimaru's past! Mio doing that for money in the new adaptation, that was a dark twist to the original |
Feb 28, 2019 8:55 AM
#330
Mar 1, 2019 4:50 AM
#331
I already know when first seen Mio characters, it was really cruel when wars. That was normal when war is going on. Men's become soldier fight to dead, some women's become prostitute. The doing that for survive the cruel world, every single human's want to survive. |
Mar 4, 2019 11:55 PM
#333
Mar 5, 2019 8:27 AM
#334
[quote=Jade_Snow message=57070951] Switch_Z said: Xae said: No, this is new to the remake[/quoteDid Hyakkimaru lose his regained leg in the original too? Switch_Z said: He did regained it.Xae said: Did Hyakkimaru lose his regained leg in the original too? Yup. Iin the original, he regained his leg versus Bandai and kept it. Didn't lost again in a battle. |
Mar 15, 2019 9:47 AM
#335
It was definitely obvious that Mio was selling herself to get money. It's still really really sad though. I hope from now on she has a better future but who am I kidding, it seems like something tragic will happen soon. So we hear Hyakkimaru's voice. And it seems that ayakashi bit off his leg, damn. |
Mar 18, 2019 10:10 AM
#336
The episodes are getting heavier; this episode is no exception. It's interesting how even though regaining the parts and senses he lost should be a good thing, they're bringing him more tragedy instead. The first sounds he heard when he regained his hearing was crying, and the first things he voiced when he regained his voice is the cry of pain. I feel bad for Hyakkimaru... Also despite all the hints, I did not see Mio's reveal coming at all... |
Mar 30, 2019 2:33 PM
#337
The last few minutes of this episode were too heavy, I wasn't prepared at all. Even if you had guessed Mio's job, showing her having sex with those soldiers was unexpected, and even Dororo saw that As for Hyakkimaru, it's a small detail, but I found being able to see his leg bone too gruesome. Still good episode. |
Apr 10, 2019 4:51 PM
#338
Man, this is getting intense. I had a feeling that the girl was working as a prostitute all the time, the way she acted and the way she dressed and adjusted her dress often. It's a common faith in the times of war indeed, but still, not a single bit less messed up. I hope the kids never know about that. Dororo better keep his mouth shut. I'm glad that Kyakkimaru gained his voice back, but his injured leg worries me, I assume he is able to grow limbs back only in order to “restore” them, so he shouldn't be able to heal that several legs in any way, I wish he finds some way or he is just blessed with a strong healing power that can manage that. |
Apr 13, 2019 4:52 PM
#339
Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen. although in this specific case, if it's her job, it probably wasn't rape, which doesn't really alleviate the situation. to be honest, i think the scene was done pretty well to show the lengths she took to keep the kids safe and healthy. it says a lot about her strength, adds more depth to her character and shows she's not just some helpless girl, even if her situation is pretty miserable. it does infuriate me some comments here saying "she should have come up with another way to survive", it's war, feudal japan, what an underaged girl is supposed to do? i saw it coming and yeah, it's heavy and hard to swallow, but, it's actually very believable and just sad. i don't think hyakkimaru got his voice in that fight. they didn't defeat the demon. and the bird one from the beginning was defeated by the old man, so it probably doesn't count. but most deaf people are mute because they can't hear themselves, so they can't really use their voices. that's probably what happened to him. it was just an automatic reaction to pain. |
fukumenkeiApr 13, 2019 8:52 PM
Apr 13, 2019 6:48 PM
#340
fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen How is it not a contradiction? Rape, by the modern definition, is when someone forces sex on somebody against their will. If you let yourself, by definition it's not against your will. |
Apr 13, 2019 7:12 PM
#341
Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen How is it not a contradiction? Rape, by the modern definition, is when someone forces sex on somebody against their will. If you let yourself, by definition it's not against your will. i mean consent is not that black and white. i'm not talking about mio's case here, i think her situation falls on another discussion as she's selling herself but not enjoying it, out of desperation. but when you coerce someone into saying yes, by aggression, threatening or mental abuse it's still rape. |
Apr 13, 2019 8:31 PM
#342
fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen How is it not a contradiction? Rape, by the modern definition, is when someone forces sex on somebody against their will. If you let yourself, by definition it's not against your will. i mean consent is not that black and white. i'm not talking about mio's case here, i think her situation falls on another discussion as she's selling herself but not enjoying it, out of desperation. but when you coerce someone into saying yes, by aggression, threatening or mental abuse it's still rape. Where do you even draw the line for that sort of thing? A guy has to show some kind of aggressiveness when he's courting a woman, or else he's not gonna get anywhere. To begin with, I find the modern definition of rape to be an almost pointless distinction, since women often use words like "no" to hide their embarrassment or to not seem easy. |
Apr 13, 2019 8:49 PM
#343
Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen How is it not a contradiction? Rape, by the modern definition, is when someone forces sex on somebody against their will. If you let yourself, by definition it's not against your will. i mean consent is not that black and white. i'm not talking about mio's case here, i think her situation falls on another discussion as she's selling herself but not enjoying it, out of desperation. but when you coerce someone into saying yes, by aggression, threatening or mental abuse it's still rape. Where do you even draw the line for that sort of thing? A guy has to show some kind of aggressiveness when he's courting a woman, or else he's not gonna get anywhere. To begin with, I find the modern definition of rape to be an almost pointless distinction, since women often use words like "no" to hide their embarrassment or to not seem easy. it's not that hard actually, i'd draw the line when the side being courted is feeling uncomfortable. society is fucked up. women are taught to say no when they mean yes because she can't be "easy", and when she's already in a relationship - like marriage - a negative is seen as not fulfilling her 'duty'. it's like being open and assertive about what she wants when she wants it is a character flaw. the same way men are taught that the hard to get are better and more worthy, and that somehow the effort will get him the girl, so he should insist until he gets the positive answer. in those terms it's hard to say objectively when it stops being courting to become harassment. i personally think all this 'ruling' is bullshit, no is always no and you should go for what you want without fearing to be judged, but we all know that's not how the world works. and it's dangerous to say that the definition of rape is almost pointless, no should always mean no, no matter how frustrating that can feel to the person trying. there are a lot of other women (and men too, since women can be pushy about this too) in the world to disrespect someone who made it clear you're being a bother. |
Apr 13, 2019 9:34 PM
#344
I was worried about Mio's profession being that kind of profession the moment it was mentioned that she gets paid more at night. There's only one kind of job brutes like them would give to a fair maiden like her and it's disheartening to see that that's the case. She's so stubborn and dedicated that she'll go through any kind of pain if it'll be for the kids though. I hope Dororo finds a way to have her not need to continue this since she'll be servicing both sides now. Hyakki's very far from used to the torrent of sounds but Mio's song is fine. Her voice was really smooth and my ears didn't hurt either. The more he gets his body parts back, the more he can express how much he's in pain but the silver lining to that is that he got the ability to talk and respond to his friends now. |
Apr 14, 2019 6:23 PM
#345
fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen How is it not a contradiction? Rape, by the modern definition, is when someone forces sex on somebody against their will. If you let yourself, by definition it's not against your will. i mean consent is not that black and white. i'm not talking about mio's case here, i think her situation falls on another discussion as she's selling herself but not enjoying it, out of desperation. but when you coerce someone into saying yes, by aggression, threatening or mental abuse it's still rape. Where do you even draw the line for that sort of thing? A guy has to show some kind of aggressiveness when he's courting a woman, or else he's not gonna get anywhere. To begin with, I find the modern definition of rape to be an almost pointless distinction, since women often use words like "no" to hide their embarrassment or to not seem easy. it's not that hard actually, i'd draw the line when the side being courted is feeling uncomfortable. society is fucked up. women are taught to say no when they mean yes because she can't be "easy", and when she's already in a relationship - like marriage - a negative is seen as not fulfilling her 'duty'. it's like being open and assertive about what she wants when she wants it is a character flaw. the same way men are taught that the hard to get are better and more worthy, and that somehow the effort will get him the girl, so he should insist until he gets the positive answer. in those terms it's hard to say objectively when it stops being courting to become harassment. i personally think all this 'ruling' is bullshit, no is always no and you should go for what you want without fearing to be judged, but we all know that's not how the world works. and it's dangerous to say that the definition of rape is almost pointless, no should always mean no, no matter how frustrating that can feel to the person trying. there are a lot of other women (and men too, since women can be pushy about this too) in the world to disrespect someone who made it clear you're being a bother. Since when are women "taught" to say no when it doesn't necessarily mean no? If anything, modern women are taught to say yes. I've flirted with a lot of women, and the overwhelming number of them said yes too easily, which only tells me they'd accept most any male that throws around a few honeyed words. Men are wolves by nature - even if most today are reduced to dogs. It's merely a part of nature for women to be coy, since women are the "gatekeepers" to their own body (especially since fathers these days are pathetic and dont protect their daughters), and should of course want a good man that will take responsibility for his actions. No woman wants to be seen as easy, since it makes them look desperate. Love is war, y'know? I definitely recommend watching the 1967 film adaptation of Taming of the Shrew. Keep in mind it's a comedy, so some things aren't representative of Shakespeare's times. |
Apr 14, 2019 6:52 PM
#346
Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen How is it not a contradiction? Rape, by the modern definition, is when someone forces sex on somebody against their will. If you let yourself, by definition it's not against your will. i mean consent is not that black and white. i'm not talking about mio's case here, i think her situation falls on another discussion as she's selling herself but not enjoying it, out of desperation. but when you coerce someone into saying yes, by aggression, threatening or mental abuse it's still rape. Where do you even draw the line for that sort of thing? A guy has to show some kind of aggressiveness when he's courting a woman, or else he's not gonna get anywhere. To begin with, I find the modern definition of rape to be an almost pointless distinction, since women often use words like "no" to hide their embarrassment or to not seem easy. it's not that hard actually, i'd draw the line when the side being courted is feeling uncomfortable. society is fucked up. women are taught to say no when they mean yes because she can't be "easy", and when she's already in a relationship - like marriage - a negative is seen as not fulfilling her 'duty'. it's like being open and assertive about what she wants when she wants it is a character flaw. the same way men are taught that the hard to get are better and more worthy, and that somehow the effort will get him the girl, so he should insist until he gets the positive answer. in those terms it's hard to say objectively when it stops being courting to become harassment. i personally think all this 'ruling' is bullshit, no is always no and you should go for what you want without fearing to be judged, but we all know that's not how the world works. and it's dangerous to say that the definition of rape is almost pointless, no should always mean no, no matter how frustrating that can feel to the person trying. there are a lot of other women (and men too, since women can be pushy about this too) in the world to disrespect someone who made it clear you're being a bother. Since when are women "taught" to say no when it doesn't necessarily mean no? If anything, modern women are taught to say yes. I've flirted with a lot of women, and the overwhelming number of them said yes too easily, which only tells me they'd accept most any male that throws around a few honeyed words. Men are wolves by nature - even if most today are reduced to dogs. It's merely a part of nature for women to be coy, since women are the "gatekeepers" to their own body, and should of course want a good man that will take responsibility for his actions. No woman wants to be seen as easy, since it makes them look desperate. Love is war, y'know? I definitely recommend watching the 1967 film adaptation of Taming of the Shrew. Keep in mind it's a comedy, so some things aren't representative of Shakespeare's times. since when, you ask? my grandma still says all the time that i should behave "like a lady" and not let many men come close. i've come across more modern women who are more open and active about their desires and who they like, but they are the ones challenging social convention and get sometimes hardly judged for that. there are still a lot of us who are taught to be reserved and play hard to get so we're seen as a "proper lady" and "marriage material". i wouldn't say it's a part of nature to be like that, because it's just social belief. the thought that we are all - regardless of gender - responsible and the owners of our own bodies is pretty recent and not as common as we'd like to think. in some cultures, women are still property of their husbands, arranged marriages still exist and - not in a sexual/romantic way, but still - men are supposed to fight for their country if a war happens regardless of their want. abortion is still taboo and/or being discussed in most parts of the world. to me a desperate woman is the one who is too clingy to a guy that has no interest in her, the insistent ones, you know? saying yes without playing hard to get should just make you interested with nothing negative about it. to be honest, it's a bit sad to see you saying "i've flirted with a lot of women, and the overwhelming number of them said yes too easily, which only tells me they'd accept most any male that throws around a few honeyed words" because it kinda puts you on a low standard to yourself. i only say yes to people whom i'm attracted to. of course i've been judged about it one time or another, but that world is not changed yet. i'd just take a loyal dog any day over a wolf who only sees me as prey. i'll take a look at that because even when i don't agree with the content, this is a subject i take an interest on. |
Apr 15, 2019 6:43 AM
#347
I knew Mio is selling her body. But damn that is sad. Everybody in the chat press f |
Apr 15, 2019 6:43 PM
#348
fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: fukumenkei said: Escaethorne said: Smudy said: Mio letting herself get raped for money "letting herself" and "get raped" are a total contradiction. it isn't a contradiction, and it can happen How is it not a contradiction? Rape, by the modern definition, is when someone forces sex on somebody against their will. If you let yourself, by definition it's not against your will. i mean consent is not that black and white. i'm not talking about mio's case here, i think her situation falls on another discussion as she's selling herself but not enjoying it, out of desperation. but when you coerce someone into saying yes, by aggression, threatening or mental abuse it's still rape. Where do you even draw the line for that sort of thing? A guy has to show some kind of aggressiveness when he's courting a woman, or else he's not gonna get anywhere. To begin with, I find the modern definition of rape to be an almost pointless distinction, since women often use words like "no" to hide their embarrassment or to not seem easy. it's not that hard actually, i'd draw the line when the side being courted is feeling uncomfortable. society is fucked up. women are taught to say no when they mean yes because she can't be "easy", and when she's already in a relationship - like marriage - a negative is seen as not fulfilling her 'duty'. it's like being open and assertive about what she wants when she wants it is a character flaw. the same way men are taught that the hard to get are better and more worthy, and that somehow the effort will get him the girl, so he should insist until he gets the positive answer. in those terms it's hard to say objectively when it stops being courting to become harassment. i personally think all this 'ruling' is bullshit, no is always no and you should go for what you want without fearing to be judged, but we all know that's not how the world works. and it's dangerous to say that the definition of rape is almost pointless, no should always mean no, no matter how frustrating that can feel to the person trying. there are a lot of other women (and men too, since women can be pushy about this too) in the world to disrespect someone who made it clear you're being a bother. Since when are women "taught" to say no when it doesn't necessarily mean no? If anything, modern women are taught to say yes. I've flirted with a lot of women, and the overwhelming number of them said yes too easily, which only tells me they'd accept most any male that throws around a few honeyed words. Men are wolves by nature - even if most today are reduced to dogs. It's merely a part of nature for women to be coy, since women are the "gatekeepers" to their own body, and should of course want a good man that will take responsibility for his actions. No woman wants to be seen as easy, since it makes them look desperate. Love is war, y'know? I definitely recommend watching the 1967 film adaptation of Taming of the Shrew. Keep in mind it's a comedy, so some things aren't representative of Shakespeare's times. since when, you ask? my grandma still says all the time that i should behave "like a lady" and not let many men come close. i've come across more modern women who are more open and active about their desires and who they like, but they are the ones challenging social convention and get sometimes hardly judged for that. there are still a lot of us who are taught to be reserved and play hard to get so we're seen as a "proper lady" and "marriage material". i wouldn't say it's a part of nature to be like that, because it's just social belief. the thought that we are all - regardless of gender - responsible and the owners of our own bodies is pretty recent and not as common as we'd like to think. in some cultures, women are still property of their husbands, arranged marriages still exist and - not in a sexual/romantic way, but still - men are supposed to fight for their country if a war happens regardless of their want. abortion is still taboo and/or being discussed in most parts of the world. to me a desperate woman is the one who is too clingy to a guy that has no interest in her, the insistent ones, you know? saying yes without playing hard to get should just make you interested with nothing negative about it. to be honest, it's a bit sad to see you saying "i've flirted with a lot of women, and the overwhelming number of them said yes too easily, which only tells me they'd accept most any male that throws around a few honeyed words" because it kinda puts you on a low standard to yourself. i only say yes to people whom i'm attracted to. of course i've been judged about it one time or another, but that world is not changed yet. i'd just take a loyal dog any day over a wolf who only sees me as prey. i'll take a look at that because even when i don't agree with the content, this is a subject i take an interest on. For many other animals, the females act coy. Why are you so quick to claim it's not natural? You claim it's a social belief, but such a belief comes from nature itself. Same with patriarchy, where do you think it came from? Do you think the men of the world suddenly banded together rubbing their hands, and decided to put women in cages? No, women happily accept male dominance. Civilisation isn't some constant evolution towards a delusional liberal utopia where nobody is judged and we all sing around a campfire. Any society that has accepted views like yours has crumbled shortly after, and that's exactly what will happen to us. We're overpopulated, too big for our boots, and dying. I'm not at all putting myself on a low standard, I'm putting them on a low standard. A woman who says yes too easily will be used and thrown away, and will become miserable. I'm sure you would, considering your age and apparent promiscuity, accept a loyal dog - but only because the good wolves are not interested in looking in your direction. As a "wolfish man", I dont see women as just prey, and believe it or not, I am a hardcore romantic. The world will not change, because these things are in our nature, and there's no reason they should change. Society stems from nature, it's not some nebulous thing that came out of thin air. Or else, why would these views be common all throughout the world, throughout history? Even amongst many peoples that had no contact. |
May 7, 2019 6:46 AM
#349
It is sad that Hyakkimaru lost his part of his actual leg. Was hoping he would get his full body after defeating demons. |
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