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willardhwright said: Fai said: Kayaba is a sociopath, while Glasses was an obsessive psychopath. Sociopaths are genuinely more like machines than people. Did Kayaba hurt people? Sure. Would his actions be perceived as evil by those he hurt? Sure. But he has absolutely no interest in that. All the people for him were simply part of the world he created, no more no less. I don't even think what he did was "childish" in any way, the same drive, the same kind of obsession with your work can be seen in a lot of modern day programming geniuses. Kayaba's obsession about what he is creating simply had no limit of human empathy. Its far too easy in this situation to just turn someone like him into manic laughing evil guy, but SAO did NOT do that. SAO arc gave him quite peaceful exit and actual context behind his actions(half of which sadly was lost in adaptation) Hey Fai, it's been a while, I guess the last time was on the steins;gate forum, though I'm not sure about it. Always happy to see that there are some people here that still try to think about a plot or to understand or the characters feel instead of judging too quickly. Yeah, that's kind of my point too. I used "childish" because it kind of fits with the archetype of the psychopathic manchild (there's a trope about this), which means that he does have the ""innocence"" (in the not-necessarily-positive meaning) of a child before he starts developing. As in, not understanding feeing, the value of another life, etc, like a kid to an animal. It probably comes from the whole "sociopath" thing, but it's this combined to the fact that he wanted his "imaginary world" to come true (something quite common with children) at the expense of the real one that reinforced the "childish" aspect to me And yeah, now that I have a kindle again I'll probably try to read the novel, if only for the first season, since it seems that pretty much every problem from S1 isn't in it. But that's a thing a liked about S1; I tend to dislike when people judge a character and just say "he's a monster" without even trying to understand its motives, or characters that are jut evil because... Well. They're evil, period, kind of like how they show Sugou. In a way, people with a mental illness are just as victim of this illness as everyone else, so judging them without trying to understand them is kind of like missing the point for me, and it also look less like a black-and-white villain because of this. You are "evil" because of your choices; if nature itself make it so that you don't really have the choice, can you really be a "villain", or should there be another word for it? Etc. I also liked that he apparently "matured" at least a bit at the end of SAO (which i pretty normal, even a sociopath can understand things; it just takes a conscious effort and work for it, that's what therapy are for), given his conversation with Kirito at the end of ALO, which seems a bit less.... "selfish" and isolated compared to before (I don't find any other word, you probably get the idea). His death was pretty much unavoidable, but I wish we could have seen the character a bit more, even moreso in the anime. I´d have wanted to see him more in the anime as well I read the story that made "a crime in the safe area (or something like that)" and well, he looked like a manchild... I like him I can´t identify with him since I am normal (if I was something like that I think I couldn´t recognize me on him and I wouldn´t be able to understand people and stuff) yet I think he is the very first and only character in SAO that teaches something, though cliched and "trillado", he is like "follow your dreams, don´t give a fuck about everything else" |
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| I mostly fast forwarded through this episode. It is not that I wanted action, I actually ship episodes like this. But at the same time, I have problems with them. This episode was classical "Good guys get stuck in friendzone, jerks get all the pussy". While I do mostly get stuck in friendzone, that is not the main reason. Main reason is- That Shinkawa guy is fucking clueless. I feel embarrassed when I watch things like that. |
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Snow_Dust said: Episodes like this are necessary. Or else everyone will complain about how one dimensional the characters are.That was a really boring episode. Everything turned out so slow and I disliked it as much as the first two episodes. Why do they have to stretch the series like that? |
| Decent episode, Kirito broke down, BoB starts next episode can't wait. |
jimbobyoo said: Me 2,so excited.Decent episode, Kirito broke down, BoB starts next episode can't wait. |
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| Can someone explain this to me? I thought Sinon had lost, isn't she out of the tournament now? Why is there a rematch? |
Confucius said: Can someone explain this to me? I thought Sinon had lost, isn't she out of the tournament now? Why is there a rematch? Actually you can get two guys of each group inside the tournament Like in the World cup in the group face But there is no such thing as more matches till a 1v1 duel They´re thrown in to the battle royale |
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Rolanddeschain said: Confucius said: Can someone explain this to me? I thought Sinon had lost, isn't she out of the tournament now? Why is there a rematch? Actually you can get two guys of each group inside the tournament Like in the World cup in the group face But there is no such thing as more matches till a 1v1 duel They´re thrown in to the battle royale I don't follow the World Cup, but wasn't Kirito in a 1v1 duel for the past two episodes? |
Confucius said: Rolanddeschain said: Actually you can get two guys of each group inside the tournament Like in the World cup in the group face But there is no such thing as more matches till a 1v1 duel They´re thrown in to the battle royale I don't follow the World Cup, but wasn't Kirito in a 1v1 duel for the past two episodes? Yep It was to select two players for the final open round |
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Always-Hungry said: Too much drama with Kirito. So only Asuna isn't enough for him huh ? Wasn't that always the case? >.< |
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| I feel like I'd be more invested in Kirito's struggle with the LC murders if they had actually been part in the episodes last season. Pulling the experience out of nowhere means that Kirito has to overact to catch the watcher up. Really makes me wish the first season hadn't had so many episodes spent watching some old guy fish :S Oh, and the double hug was sort of silly. Even in the flash back he does it xD |
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Rolanddeschain said: Confucius said: I don't follow the World Cup, but wasn't Kirito in a 1v1 duel for the past two episodes? Yep It was to select two players for the final open round So why were they fighting then...? |
Confucius said: Rolanddeschain said: Yep It was to select two players for the final open round So why were they fighting then...? It is suposed 1st of each group gets a privileged spawn point |
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Rolanddeschain said: Nothing like that was mentioned in the novel. Sinon just wants to fight strong people and hence why she was so pissed at Kirito for trying to give her a free win. As for other contestants... epeen? lolConfucius said: So why were they fighting then...? It is suposed 1st of each group gets a privileged spawn point |
| The second half was very slow indeed, but the battle in the next episode should pick the pace right back up I hope :) |
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| Eww Suguha. Kirito and Asuna facetiming was perfectly adorable. I feel so bad for that Spiegel dude. It sucks to be rejected like that. Hope things will work out well in the end. Can't wait for the tournament! |
fishergirl16 said: Eww Suguha. Kirito and Asuna facetiming was perfectly adorable. I feel so bad for that Spiegel dude. It sucks to be rejected like that. Hope things will work out well in the end. Can't wait for the tournament! Hey now poor suguha isn't that bad. I do feel bad for Spiegel though. |
Xway101 ~By me~ |
| boring episode, not much going on. skip it if you haven't watched it yet. |
| Build-up episode... not much really happened. Kirito hasn't reported anything, so typical of "him"... I hope Lightning-Flash Asuna joins the fun soon... (I doubt it though) |
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| ok episode kinda boring not much happen but next episode looks a little better |
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| One of the better episodes. People complaining that it was slow or boring are children. AICW said: I noticed that too hahaLmao, did anyone notice one of the players in the BoB tournament is named "JACK REACHER". He'd better look like Tom Cruise. |
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| This was actually better than I expected, the life stories were not that bad compared to how it normally is. ヽ(ﾟДﾟ)ﾉ |
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| Sugu + a confession for Sinon. Wondering what will happen next in the BoB as well. |
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| I am so emotionally hurt and i need to lie my head on your boobs and cry so you can take my pain away miss.hot nurse. Lol, i see what you did there Kirito. |
| Even in real life, Kirito keeps on picking up female bitches like if they were pokemon. Anyway, this ep needs more sakuga, not drama. Blow ur budget on fanservice pls A-1 ;-; |
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| As soon as I saw boobs imouto and Asuna + gang in ALO I remembered all the reasons why i've hated this so much. |
| With Kirito away, Klein has himself a pretty nice harem. |
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| am i the only one who thinks shinkawa's confession was really cute?? i feel like sinon is being such a jerk for making him wait, how long as he been waiting already? :( and if she ends up falling for kirito i think i'm gonna rage quit... parfaited said: As soon as I saw boobs imouto and Asuna + gang in ALO I remembered all the reasons why i've hated this so much. same. |
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pakoko said: Hmm actually playing 2 characters at a time sounds a lot more plausible.. I wonder now about this theory.I think he'd more likely become an accomplice (or mastermind) than be the actual death gun because he was clearly at the BoB competition with Sinon. If Sinon's friend changed to Death Gun only while talking to Kirito, then changed back when he was talking to Sinon later in the episode, then that's just horrible writing. Those who saw the balloon at Kirito's window @hospital know now that him and Sinon live in the same area which means they'll proly meet in their irl too :). |
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| Extremely late to the party but.. ONII-CHAN! That's all that I remember from this episode. Actually just now, I somehow remember a few "highlights" that I would like to give my thoughts on. First of all the confession.. LOL FUNNY AS FUCK like not even gonna lie, I laughed my ass off. Like the motherfucker tried to rape yo ass and you pushed his rapist fuck outta the way like WOOT WOOT DAT REJECTION (At least I'm pretty sure it was; or at least to delay the inevitable, the inevitable being the confession). But yeah, that was pretty awkward and he uhh.. dayum dog, get a gaddamn clue. She don wantcho ass after seeing dat Kirito guy and after seeing his long ass sword (well, light saber). That scene man, my God it was horrible though. And then Kirito with the nurse man, like.. SHE WANTED THE D. I THINK. WELL YOU COULD'VE PERSUADED HER, MAYBE SINCE YOU KNOW, ALL THE CHICKS WANT YO D FO SOME GOT DAMN REASON. Don't really have anything to say about that scene. It was an "oh ok" kind of a scene but it was worth mentioning, I guess. I would also like to mention that Asuna is a healer? Like JESUS CHRIST MAN, THAT ONE GUY NOT ONLY JAILED YOU, LICKED YOU (I THINK), AND HAD HIS PET OCTORAPER PRETTY MUCH MOLEST YO ASS; HE GON MAKE YOU A HEALER CLASS LIKE WUT. If it says differently in the manga, well you can go suck on your manga books because she's now a healer and that's such a huge downgrade coming from SAO like I don't even know what to say. So what did I think about this episode? Do I think anyone cares? No :C But I like to give my thoughts because I'm bored and I have nothing better to do excluding my homework which I should get onto aherm. This episode.. was ok at best, nothing really happened. I'm feeling like they're just eating up episodes now for fun and throwing the money they made from the first season in the air and shat on this season for teh shitz n giggels. Hopefully, they'll lose the snail's pace and get into the action and the story or else I'll be sad as fuck and fuck's pretty sad right now. Final/Random Thoughts: ONII-CHAN!! Sorry that's all I got. I give a final/random thought every time and I just can't think of anything for this episode. ://///////// |
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| This isn't a harem anime, Kirito, stahp it. |
| I don't like Shinkawa. He seems rapey. |
| God I am starting to get tired of Kirito getting scared of murdering someone. We get he is scared, you don't have to repeat it like 15 times to make us remember it. Besides, he killed bad guys under some circumstances , it wasn't a choice to begin with. I am not saying he is wrong for thinking that, it's just that I get annoyed hearing the same thing again and again. Meh, okay I guess. |
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| Exposition episode for the main event I see |
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TragicRomance said: God I am starting to get tired of Kirito getting scared of murdering someone. We get he is scared, you don't have to repeat it like 15 times to make us remember it. Besides, he killed bad guys under some circumstances , it wasn't a choice to begin with. I am not saying he is wrong for thinking that, it's just that I get annoyed hearing the same thing again and again. Meh, okay I guess. RIght man, he should just get over that ptsd, its not like its a real psychological issues gazillions ofsoldiers sufer from, amirite? |
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| Kirito should have banged the hot nurse and his Imouto. I think they both want his lightsaber. Too bad about Shinkawa that he has to jack off alone because he got rejected. She's too busy thinking of Kirito's lightsaber. lol |
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| Sinon is starting to go on my nerves now with all that non deserved rage against Kirito. Damn! Hm...I was thinking from the beginning that her friend could be the Death Gun but when you see him in the game talking to Sinon, he looks so weak...I don't know, maybe he's faking it good :) Either way, he is kinda creepy :) |
| A decent break from action but with still quite decent development! |
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| nooooooo, no harem? noo! Shinon's friend is kinda touchy lol. Shinon cmon love Kirito not fight him! Maybe fighting = love, lol Tsundere? Klein sir, you are awesome as usual. Hope Klein hooks up with a teenage girl soon. |
| I would've support them if that guy could straighten himself up a bit. The way he approach Sinon is a bit awkward to me. It gives me a weird chill. :D The hospital scene was good.. generic drama.. but decently portrayed in my opinion. Little Suguha moment was nice as well. Let the battle royal begin. |
| Bullet of Bullets has to be the worst name for a tournament ever, Its like they couldnt think of anything good and just said "this will do". |
| Touching episode for Kirito. Poor guy, being rejected twice and all |
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| This might be the best ep of the series yet, if only because it takes the series' golden boy and gives him human qualities. Dat PTSD... I'm almost tempted to start rooting for him. |
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| There are two kinds of drama.. those that even though very subtle still makes me cry and then there's this kind of drama. It's just hard to find sympathy for someone who is crying and having trouble because he forgot the names and the faces of those he killed. I'm not saying it's corny. But it's corny. Sinon will reject that guy. I guarantee it. |
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| Pretty much a calm before the storm style setup episode. Poor Kyouji, Shino clearly isn't interested in him. Too bad he's not Kirito... |
| Not a lot happened then. It's like True Detective season 2, season 1 was good and season 2 is a whole lot of nothingness most of the time. His cousin knows now. Jack Reacher is in the tournament lol. It sounded like Leafa's voice in the dub was different :/ ALO seems kinda boring now. |
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