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| I thought I've already left this bad show behind, I certainly didn't expect it came back in this way. nightcrawlercyp said: I guess only to show that sacrificing a random person for your interest sends you to the void regardless of circumstances? I'm sorry it's more than a year ago and my memory faded may I ask which part you're referring to? nightcrawlercyp said: the show it is not trying to be smart. i am not sure what religion derived from hinduism/buddhism states that after death a soul has 3 possible paths: 1. the soul can ascend to a higher plane 2. the soul can reincarnate 3. the soul ends up in some sort of buddhist version of hell and remains there forever without reincarnation. So reincarnation or the void is perfectly in line with this. If you are asking about #1 they probably never reach the place where duodecim works because that is a place for sorting failures: can we attempt another try or not? Not exactly. The souls are either reincarnated or sent into the void, but neither way your memory would be retained and basically nothing carried over not even your karma, personality or conscious like in Buddhism or whatever. So basically the show took and copied the idea of reincarnation and made it extremely unattractive. Good thing the arbiters are being deceptive by telling everyone 'heaven or hell'. Too bad for us the audience that there's only worse thing nothing but worse can happen to the characters. |
raveninthemuddle said: 1. the fangirl that gets sent to the void. Initially she sacrifices for her idol, but afterwards she sacrifices another guy to save the idol guy. You asked what was the point of the whole Ginti mini arc. I thought I've already left this bad show behind, I certainly didn't expect it came back in this way. nightcrawlercyp said: I guess only to show that sacrificing a random person for your interest sends you to the void regardless of circumstances? I'm sorry it's more than a year ago and my memory faded may I ask which part you're referring to? nightcrawlercyp said: the show it is not trying to be smart. i am not sure what religion derived from hinduism/buddhism states that after death a soul has 3 possible paths: 1. the soul can ascend to a higher plane 2. the soul can reincarnate 3. the soul ends up in some sort of buddhist version of hell and remains there forever without reincarnation. So reincarnation or the void is perfectly in line with this. If you are asking about #1 they probably never reach the place where duodecim works because that is a place for sorting failures: can we attempt another try or not? Not exactly. The souls are either reincarnated or sent into the void, but neither way your memory would be retained and basically nothing carried over not even your karma, personality or conscious like in Buddhism or whatever. So basically the show took and copied the idea of reincarnation and made it extremely unattractive. Good thing the arbiters are being deceptive by telling everyone 'heaven or hell'. Too bad for us the audience that there's only worse thing nothing but worse can happen to the characters. 2. We do not know what gets carried over to the next life. We just know that just as in hinduism and Buddhism memory is not one of the things that gets carried over. Someone remembering a past life is a mistake in the working of things in both buddhism and the show. Reincarnation is not attractive: is an Sisifian work for no real goal. Is useless. Maybe you should read more about these religions because none of them says you get to remember past lives normally. 3. Can I ask why you thought it was a bad show? I did not find a great show because only character that really shows any development is Chyuka and could have been much better but I did not find it a bad show (I finished it already btw) . It was an average show and actually enjoyable for most part. The only thing that I did not like was Ginti's appathy. I found it contagious. |
nightcrawlercyp said: 1. the fangirl that gets sent to the void. Initially she sacrifices for her idol, but afterwards she sacrifices another guy to save the idol guy. You asked what was the point of the whole Ginti mini arc. And what's the point? You performed a selfish act and got sent to the void (is that what happened?), what a surprise. Not to mention the complete tonal suicide and half-ass attempt of making Ginti humane. It's rush, poorly thought-out and underwhelming. It adds nothing to the main plot, and it's superfluous nightcrawlercyp said: 2. We do not know what gets carried over to the next life. We just know that just as in hinduism and Buddhism memory is not one of the things that gets carried over. Someone remembering a past life is a mistake in the working of things in both buddhism and the show. Reincarnation is not attractive: is an Sisifian work for no real goal. Is useless. Maybe you should read more about these religions because none of them says you get to remember past lives normally. I'm so not interested in debating you what incarnation means in different religions. And btw, Dalai Lama calls and he wants to speak with you. And it doesn't have to be a specific concept of a specific religion. In China we believe if you do good things in present life you'll get a better life in the reincarnation, do bad things and you'll be a dog or a bug or some shit. It's just a common belief that's popular in most of East Asia. But what really matters it how 'reincarnation' functions as a plot element in the story's universe. And as I've stated it's not very encouraging and even failed at making dramatic tension because what's the point if the only 'positive' outcome is start anew as a blank slate, completely detached from any emotional connections? nightcrawlercyp said: 3. Can I ask why you thought it was a bad show? I did not find a great show because only character that really shows any development is Chyuka and could have been much better but I did not find it a bad show (I finished it already btw) . It was an average show and actually enjoyable for most part. The only thing that I did not like was Ginti's appathy. I found it contagious. It's a mess in presenting its themes, deliberately aimed at low-hanging fruit but still failed at making anything memorable, very inconsistent in its story-telling, manipulative, callow, (buzzwords!). It's another typical example of how a good animator isn't necessary a good story-teller. Story is king, especially it's a show wants to impress you with its intelligence. |
raveninthemuddle said: nightcrawlercyp said: 1. the fangirl that gets sent to the void. Initially she sacrifices for her idol, but afterwards she sacrifices another guy to save the idol guy. You asked what was the point of the whole Ginti mini arc. And what's the point? You performed a selfish act and got sent to the void (is that what happened?), what a surprise. Not to mention the complete tonal suicide and half-ass attempt of making Ginti humane. It's rush, poorly thought-out and underwhelming. It adds nothing to the main plot, and it's superfluous nightcrawlercyp said: 2. We do not know what gets carried over to the next life. We just know that just as in hinduism and Buddhism memory is not one of the things that gets carried over. Someone remembering a past life is a mistake in the working of things in both buddhism and the show. Reincarnation is not attractive: is an Sisifian work for no real goal. Is useless. Maybe you should read more about these religions because none of them says you get to remember past lives normally. I'm so not interested in debating you what incarnation means in different religions. And btw, Dalai Lama calls and he wants to speak with you. And it doesn't have to be a specific concept of a specific religion. In China we believe if you do good things in present life you'll get a better life in the reincarnation, do bad things and you'll be a dog or a bug or some shit. It's just a common belief that's popular in most of East Asia. But what really matters it how 'reincarnation' functions as a plot element in the story's universe. And as I've stated it's not very encouraging and even failed at making dramatic tension because what's the point if the only 'positive' outcome is start anew as a blank slate, completely detached from any emotional connections? nightcrawlercyp said: 3. Can I ask why you thought it was a bad show? I did not find a great show because only character that really shows any development is Chyuka and could have been much better but I did not find it a bad show (I finished it already btw) . It was an average show and actually enjoyable for most part. The only thing that I did not like was Ginti's appathy. I found it contagious. It's a mess in presenting its themes, deliberately aimed at low-hanging fruit but still failed at making anything memorable, very inconsistent in its story-telling, manipulative, callow, (buzzwords!). It's another typical example of how a good animator isn't necessary a good story-teller. Story is king, especially it's a show wants to impress you with its intelligence. 1. she tries to commit murder. Just as when you pay someone to kill a person you are still guilty of murder, she is guilty of this. I agree the whole arc is rushed and poorly made but his judgement is valid. 2. well, that is my view on the idea of reincarnation in general. Many see it as encouraging. I see it as pointless. 3. I dunno, the first two episodes were great and there was that episode where the old lady bashes the kid's head into the arcade game. they were well made. About story telling normally I would agree with you, story is King, but I did not see the show this way. Except for a the first two episodes and the last 3 if I am not mistake there is no real coherent story line and is more of an episodic anime. I never said t was great but it was enjoyable. I think it gave that impression to you because from what I saw the writers wanted an episodic anime that would last as long as possible (think yuyu hakusho, dbz, Inuyasha,etc) but at some points due to low sales or bad ratings decided to provide an end and a main story. Because the main story is more an afterthought to me at least. |
nightcrawlercyp said: I think it gave that impression to you because from what I saw the writers wanted an episodic anime that would last as long as possible (think yuyu hakusho, dbz, Inuyasha,etc) but at some points due to low sales or bad ratings decided to provide an end and a main story. Because the main story is more an afterthought to me at least. There's an OVA that came before this that uses the same setting and also made by the same guy. It was conceived as an one-cour TV anime. Just like most anime that has only 13 or less episodes having a tight schedule I doubt it has the leisure to change its story line based on the reception or ratings, which is an extremely rare occurrence in the industry. It's supposed to be there from the first place. |
raveninthemuddle said: that is the impression it made to me. I know about the OVA, plan to see it next. The thing is that it seemed to me the only explanation why only Chiyuki 's character is actually drawn out. It might have worked as an episodic long running show with each episode explaining more and more about the characters and the setting. I dunno, maybe I am overthinking it!nightcrawlercyp said: I think it gave that impression to you because from what I saw the writers wanted an episodic anime that would last as long as possible (think yuyu hakusho, dbz, Inuyasha,etc) but at some points due to low sales or bad ratings decided to provide an end and a main story. Because the main story is more an afterthought to me at least. There's an OVA that came before this that uses the same setting and also made by the same guy. It was conceived as an one-cour TV anime. Just like most anime that has only 13 or less episodes having a tight schedule I doubt it has the leisure to change its story line based on the reception or ratings, which is an extremely rare occurrence in the industry. It's supposed to be there from the first place. |
| Ginti thug life lol! I should've expected that xD |
 V I S I T M Y 【P R O F I L E 💕】 |
| lol when I saw the guy who looked like Light I was like BANISH HIM MAYU, SEND HIM TO THE VOID THE CUNT. Ginti's a right jerk compared to Decim but he served his purpose. Mayu did make a point that his life is about as flat and meaningless as hers. I still don't know that her arc was strictly necessary. Oh also, when they turned into dummies at the end... that shit was scary man, like straight out of a horror movie. |
| LMFAO Yagami Light |
 張大です for 張大勇督察 |
| Its all coming to the end, what should we expect. |
| This episode messed me up especially that elevator scene...I do admit tearing up abit... |
| Finally that annoying girl is gone (I'm glad -_-) |
| I was glad Chiyuki didn't die in a skating accident. It's sad that she killed herself, but it's understandable if depression got the best of her. The scene where she danced on the ice while taking a trip down memory lane was very pretty. Ginti is a sadist, but the other two may not have deserved reincarnation anyways. At least they were allowed to spend their time in the void together, though that might not make matters much better for them in the long run. What I'm worried about is that with a series that has an episodic structure as this, 12 episodes are not enough to tell an overarching story simultaneously, especially if we barely get to know the setting (the tower) and the regular characters (the arbiters and Oculus). I have a feeling there won't be a satisfying conclusion to all this. |
LeeTailorNov 26, 2016 1:24 AM
| She killed herself, that was really unexpected, that must have destroyed her poor mother. Ginti was too cruel, wtf, and I thought that he had some feelings. |
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| damn this episode really squeezed my heart |
| Objectivity doesn't exist. Subjectivity is an excuse. Beautiful world of online discourse. |
| that skating scene is amazing :O |
| "Mountains, beings, and nature's laws are bound by an arrangement, and within it, we live." -Mushishi Zoku Shou Suzu No Shizuku |
| lolpeople saying Ginti is a piece of shit are so wrong.. this guy did the right thing, the other girl tried to send the guy to the void without being judged |
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| The ice skating scene was beautiful. The guy in the picture frame looks like Light Yagami. ._. |
| Sorry for my English. |
| On Ginti's topic: We know that Harada was going to void. Period. Mayu couldn't really save him. Her judgement aside, isn't sending her with Harada to void actually Ginti showing weakness? She was happy when he opened his eyes + the scene with their souls merging has to have some meaning. Ginti describes void as a "graveyard for souls" and says that persons mind remains. In other words they pretty much ended together for all eternity. |
| Light appears out of nowhere and She went to the void. |
| I just finished Death Note and holy hell I think there actually is pretty good evidence that Death Note and Death Parade are in the same universe. That is really cool. -Both series were animated by Madhouse . -They mention that people are dying at a faster rate. Although the death toll or death rate in Death Note is not specified, it is possible that Light's use of the note has raised the death count to a noticeable amount. I think that is very exciting. |
SaucyMay 21, 2017 6:38 PM
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| Poor Mayu, really liked her naive yet innocent character :( At least she ended up with her idol in the end. Didn't expect Chiyuki to have killed herself. |
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| I teared up quite a bit during this episode, especially during the skating scene. Why the hell did Ginti send the girl and the idol to the void? What a piece of shit. |
| Didnt Ginti do that because Harada couldnt come back out of the void, I mean his actions during his life was disgraceful - but the only way Mayu could be with him is if she went to the void with him so that at least her soul would be with him?? Thats how i took it anyway :/ |
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| Damn this was a pretty depressing episode, especially that ending :( |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
If another girl skated with her, it would be Yuri on Ice indeed.  Anyways, will be rating this 6/10. Boring as hell(pun intended). I hate the Guri guy. He made both of them die by telling lies. Motherfucker. But both of them at least united at the end. |
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| i thought the same for a moment |
| Wow, I knew it, Ginti was a bigger asshole than I expected from the very beginning. |
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
| ....Was that Light Yagami? Why? Anyways, this anime is so inconsistent. At times, I dislike it for going overboard with its sideplots or general drama, but at times like this, where it sidetracks into well animated figure skating complete with a dialogue-less depiction of Chiyuki's life, Death Parade jumps back up in quality. I mean, the first part of her body that broke was her wrist, and it was now revealed that she committed suicide by cutting her wrist. That was actually a nice piece of foreshadowing. |
| Ice skating was beautiful with background music and with memories flashbacks, and Onna's outfit suited her really well! I felt bad for Onna, dont expect her to die by suicide! |
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| Ice skating scene gave me goosebumps! And the applause made by Decim... Gods, this moment was so breathtaking!! Also laughed from this Light Yagami appearance right before 'there are more deaths recently' quote. Main character of my favorite anime appears in another awesome anime... It seems to me that Death Parade will be my favorite one too. |
KurtkaJan 27, 2019 1:14 PM
| I love the Light Yagami cameo and it's actually really fitting. I would love to see Light come up with some crazy scheme to cheat during a game. :P I don't get why people hate the dude for sending them both to the void. It's not even the most controversial judgement in this series. The ice skating scene was pretty beautiful, and I thought they portrayed depression well enough. Some comments pissed me off, implying that "lul, why she not simply stop being sad instead"? |
| ...Wow. It's pretty rare for something to leave me completely speechless, but this episode was just beautiful. Every single aspect of it was beautiful. I can't even think of anything to say about it. It was just amazing. Set a high bar for the finale, that's for sure. |
| good-ass fucking music this episode. |
| Ginti Is a grade A asshole! |
| lol at Light being in Gintis place, but I honestly didn't expect him to send Mayu into the void. |
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