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Aug 21, 2015 11:31 AM

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Mikasa said:
It sucks and its fanbase makes alt accounts to bump down fma clannad and hxh


This too.
Gintama fanboys vote down anime in the top 10 using alt accounts and then they report alt accounts that vote down Gintama.
Aug 21, 2015 11:39 AM

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Shuhan said:
Mikasa said:
It sucks and its fanbase makes alt accounts to bump down fma clannad and hxh
This too.
Gintama fanboys vote down anime in the top 10 using alt accounts and then they report alt accounts that vote down Gintama.
ahahahah, wanna make me laugh? it's exactly right above you.
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Shuhan said:
Mikasa said:
It sucks and its fanbase makes alt accounts to bump down fma clannad and hxh


This too.
Gintama fanboys vote down anime in the top 10 using alt accounts and then they report alt accounts that vote down Gintama.

Please list some alt names.
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Aug 21, 2015 11:42 AM

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CG-Silver said:
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This too.
Gintama fanboys vote down anime in the top 10 using alt accounts and then they report alt accounts that vote down Gintama.
Please list some alt names.
there are always ALT from each famouse fanbase. for detail, go to this:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618
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Aug 21, 2015 12:17 PM

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see this:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/28977/Gintama%C2%B0/stats
http://myanimelist.net/anime/15335/Gintama_Movie:_Kanketsu-hen_-_Yorozuya_yo_Eien_Nare/stats
http://myanimelist.net/anime/15417/Gintama:_Enchousen/stats
http://myanimelist.net/anime/9969/Gintama/stats
http://myanimelist.net/anime/918/Gintama/stats
in average, gintama get downvote with 1 more than 1%.
look small? now compare to this:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/5114/Fullmetal_Alchemist:_Brotherhood/stats (0,2%)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/9253/Steins;Gate/stats (0.3%)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/11061/Hunter_x_Hunter_%282011%29/stats (0,2%)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/4181/Clannad:_After_Story/stats (0,3%)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/2904/Code_Geass:_Hangyaku_no_Lelouch_R2/stats (0,2%)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/23273/Shigatsu_wa_Kimi_no_Uso/stats (0,3%)
The only one that get more downvoters than gintama is LOGH
http://myanimelist.net/anime/820/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu/stats (1,8%)

so the worst victim of downvoters itself is Logh, then followed by gintama. how gintama is main reason of downvoters if they are the worst victim?, please some one, explain me.
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Aug 21, 2015 12:31 PM

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What are you talking about? your English is pretty bad so I don't understand your point. That guy said Gintama fans make alts to give 10, the other guy said post some alt, so I did, the end.
Aug 21, 2015 12:40 PM

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andpark said:
What are you talking about? your English is pretty bad so I don't understand your point. That guy said Gintama fans make alts to give 10, the other guy said post some alt, so I did, the end.
i only explain that gintama is more attacked by those alt rather than upvote it. your list can is still small compare to alt that downvoting gintama. sorry for my bad english. i just get salty because mikasa and shuhan.
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Aug 21, 2015 12:41 PM

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How would you know that? People only report downvotes, they don't pay attention to upvotes because they are mixed with normal votes and can't be estimated from the stats page.
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Personally I find it a little annoying that people defend it so profusely... I mean yeah it's dumb that someone is laying into something that you like, but honestly who cares what they think?
Aug 21, 2015 12:48 PM

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andpark said:
How would you know that? People only report downvotes, they don't pay attention to upvotes because they are mixed with normal votes and can't be estimated from the stats page.
same point going to downvoters as well. but upvoters only will really visible, when downvote not because of hating still legitimaly because it's also legal acount. if downvote and upvote in one accunt, it will be reported.
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Aug 21, 2015 2:32 PM

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Ahri said:
Mikasa said:
It sucks and its fanbase makes alt accounts to bump down fma clannad and hxh


What :l? Are people this tryhard for good ratings on shows they watch? Geez... That's kinda sad tbh.

Sadly yes. When HxH jumped up to 9.14 they started this rate-down war. Though I doubt it compares to Naruto and OP fans' enmity toward HxH
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Aug 21, 2015 2:37 PM

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Unyilkdr said:
so the worst victim of downvoters itself is Logh, then followed by gintama. how gintama is main reason of downvoters if they are the worst victim?, please some one, explain me.


People can be both haters and fanboys. Not saying that is the case but Gintama being a victim doesn't mean that the fans wouldn't rate other shows badly to keep their favorite at the top.
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Mikasa said:
Ahri said:


What :l? Are people this tryhard for good ratings on shows they watch? Geez... That's kinda sad tbh.

Sadly yes. When HxH jumped up to 9.14 they started this rate-down war. Though I doubt it compares to Naruto and OP fans' enmity toward HxH

It's not like there aren't HxH fans that boost and downrate the same away.
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andpark said:
Mikasa said:

Sadly yes. When HxH jumped up to 9.14 they started this rate-down war. Though I doubt it compares to Naruto and OP fans' enmity toward HxH

It's not like there aren't HxH fans that boost and downrate the same away.


I'm not saying that. But it was Gintama fans that started the whole mess. How do I know? Because it was Gintama downvoting all top 4 anime (bringing down Clannad).
Ofc there were also minor exchanges between hxh and fmab I think
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Aug 21, 2015 2:44 PM

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Kruzy said:
Unyilkdr said:
so the worst victim of downvoters itself is Logh, then followed by gintama. how gintama is main reason of downvoters if they are the worst victim?, please some one, explain me.


People can be both haters and fanboys. Not saying that is the case but Gintama being a victim doesn't mean that the fans wouldn't rate other shows badly to keep their favorite at the top.

Ofcourse it's wrong to rate other shows lower just because they do the same for yours. That's like following an idiots example to become an idiot yourself. I don't know why people get so upset over the fact that Gintama takes up 5 spots instead of their favorite animu. This way their animu gets less hate than it'd have been in the top 10.
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Aug 21, 2015 2:46 PM

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Mikasa said:
andpark said:

It's not like there aren't HxH fans that boost and downrate the same away.


I'm not saying that. But it was Gintama fans that started the whole mess. How do I know? Because it was Gintama downvoting all top 4 anime (bringing down Clannad).
Ofc there were also minor exchanges between hxh and fmab I think

Wow so much evidence. I'd totally believe that it was Gintama fans who brought Clannad down because of the evidence you gave.
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Mikasa said:
andpark said:

It's not like there aren't HxH fans that boost and downrate the same away.


I'm not saying that. But it was Gintama fans that started the whole mess. How do I know? Because it was Gintama downvoting all top 4 anime (bringing down Clannad).
Ofc there were also minor exchanges between hxh and fmab I think

If Gintama fans were the majority doing this, HxH, Steins;Gate, FMA etc wouldn't be in the top 5.
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>Ranked at #3 out of thousands of anime on MAL

Why is this a question? ._. I haven't seen the anime yet, but I have read some of the manga, and it's pretty awesome. Where have people been hating it?
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Aug 21, 2015 2:54 PM

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Mikasa said:


I'm not saying that. But it was Gintama fans that started the whole mess. How do I know? Because it was Gintama downvoting all top 4 anime (bringing down Clannad).
Ofc there were also minor exchanges between hxh and fmab I think

If Gintama fans were the majority doing this, HxH, Steins;Gate, FMA etc wouldn't be in the top 5.



Not reqlly. GinBase is tiny comparer to Hunbase
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Aug 21, 2015 2:57 PM

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Mikasa said:

Not reqlly. GinBase is tiny comparer to Hunbase

HxH 224,468 members
Gintama 229,124 members
Aug 21, 2015 2:57 PM

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Kruzy said:
Unyilkdr said:
so the worst victim of downvoters itself is Logh, then followed by gintama. how gintama is main reason of downvoters if they are the worst victim?, please some one, explain me.
People can be both haters and fanboys. Not saying that is the case but Gintama being a victim doesn't mean that the fans wouldn't rate other shows badly to keep their favorite at the top.
it's vice versa, but still gintama and logh have highest persentage of hate stil fact. doesn't matter what of it, rate it 1 just because rating it self is funny.
Mikasa said:
andpark said:
It's not like there aren't HxH fans that boost and downrate the same away.
I'm not saying that. But it was Gintama fans that started the whole mess. How do I know? Because it was Gintama downvoting all top 4 anime (bringing down Clannad).
Ofc there were also minor exchanges between hxh and fmab I think
i think most gintama fans actually dont care about ratings. they only have high ratings in mal. did they protest gintama have low ratings on ANN? i rarely see thou. gintama fanbase is not even that care about rating it self. i still remember when gintama' surpase HXH 2011, no one gintama fans make a thread or rant about it, the rant one is HXH fans. yet after that ratings war begin including you.
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Unyilkdr said:
Kruzy said:
People can be both haters and fanboys. Not saying that is the case but Gintama being a victim doesn't mean that the fans wouldn't rate other shows badly to keep their favorite at the top.
it's vice versa, but still gintama and logh have highest persentage of hate stil fact. doesn't matter what of it, rate it 1 just because rating it self is funny.
Mikasa said:
I'm not saying that. But it was Gintama fans that started the whole mess. How do I know? Because it was Gintama downvoting all top 4 anime (bringing down Clannad).
Ofc there were also minor exchanges between hxh and fmab I think
i think most gintama fans actually dont care about ratings. they only have high ratings in mal. did they protest gintama have low ratings on ANN? i rarely see thou. gintama fanbase is not even that care about rating it self. i still remember when gintama' surpase HXH 2011, no one gintama fans make a thread or rant about it, the rant one is HXH fans. yet after that ratings war begin including you.

I Rated Gin 1 since like 2012.

And yes IYRC they did rant a lot. (Lot of fanning by OP fanbase)

andpark said:
Mikasa said:

Not reqlly. GinBase is tiny comparer to Hunbase

HxH 224,468 members
Gintama 229,124 members



Not all active otherwise newer entries would be bigger.
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Aug 21, 2015 3:01 PM
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Shuhan said:
Mikasa said:
It sucks and its fanbase makes alt accounts to bump down fma clannad and hxh


This too.
Gintama fanboys vote down anime in the top 10 using alt accounts and then they report alt accounts that vote down Gintama.
And I thought SAO fanboys and girls were bad. At least they aren't like this.
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XxChidoriXx said:
Shuhan said:


This too.
Gintama fanboys vote down anime in the top 10 using alt accounts and then they report alt accounts that vote down Gintama.
And I thought SAO fanboys and girls were bad. At least they aren't like this.


You are being led astray my good friend. Gintama fans do not do this, these are AoT fans.
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Mikasa said:
I Rated Gin 1 since like 2012.

And yes IYRC they did rant a lot. (Lot of fanning by OP fanbase)
reason pls? why it deserve a 1?
also, if they rant about rankings, i assume they are not even gintama fans. because gintama fans know that sorrachi (gintama mangaka) hate ratings.
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CG-Silver said:
Kruzy said:


People can be both haters and fanboys. Not saying that is the case but Gintama being a victim doesn't mean that the fans wouldn't rate other shows badly to keep their favorite at the top.

Ofcourse it's wrong to rate other shows lower just because they do the same for yours. That's like following an idiots example to become an idiot yourself. I don't know why people get so upset over the fact that Gintama takes up 5 spots instead of their favorite animu. This way their animu gets less hate than it'd have been in the top 10.


Just because it's wrong doesn't mean that people won't do it.
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because foreigners cannot get Japanese Humor
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Aren't all Gintama series ranked very high in the database, with scores over 9? I doubt they are hated.

Personally, I haven't watched any series now, so I can't give a personal statement here. But I heard a lot of good things about Gintama.
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it's a great show but it makes mal's rating system a joke for so many entries of the same thing to take half of the top ten
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StefanHere said:
it's a great show but it makes mal's rating system a joke for so many entries of the same thing to take half of the top ten


be glad that One Piece isn't listed as separate seasons as that sequel effect would leave a major trail
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FireEmblemIke24 said:
StefanHere said:
it's a great show but it makes mal's rating system a joke for so many entries of the same thing to take half of the top ten


be glad that One Piece isn't listed as separate seasons as that sequel effect would leave a major trail


I don't see why it would considering its title is just One Piece.
Unlike Gintama which changes with the ' and O at the end of Gintama.
I mean it would be like saying Naruto and Shippuden should be 1 series aswell.
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Gintama are pretty high rated so u cant say people hate it
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shintai88 said:
FireEmblemIke24 said:
be glad that One Piece isn't listed as separate seasons as that sequel effect would leave a major trail
I don't see why it would considering its title is just One Piece.
Unlike Gintama which changes with the ' and O at the end of Gintama.
I mean it would be like saying Naruto and Shippuden should be 1 series aswell.
honestly, i prefer their series merged because they are direct sequel. even it marged, we still can see 3 gintama title in top 10. it's grinding too. ANN merged it.
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FireEmblemIke24 said:
StefanHere said:
it's a great show but it makes mal's rating system a joke for so many entries of the same thing to take half of the top ten


be glad that One Piece isn't listed as separate seasons as that sequel effect would leave a major trail



Not really. Most of OP's high votes come early on. First few seasons would "plague"" the top 50-100 and the rest would be 7.something.
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Requires a lot of investment until it gits gud. Only die hardfans of the series watch pass the orginal,they give anything gintama related 10/10 leading it to be overrated in comparison to other similarly scored anime with over 10 times the amount of viewers which makes some people tilt there eyebrows. Then you have the gintama cultists who see it as the second coming of jeebus who go on whitch hunts hunting down anyone who doesnt give it a 10 out of 10 on this site. It's pretty boring majority of the time and requires a huge amount investment to get to some of the funny parts then you have the rabid fanbase,that About Sums up why a lot of people don't think it's very good certainly and certainly not perfect.
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Requires a lot of investment until it gits gud. Only die hardfans of the series watch pass the orginal,they give anything gintama related 10/10 leading it to be overrated in comparison to other similarly scored anime with over 10 times the amount of viewers which makes some people tilt there eyebrows. Then you have the gintama cultists who see it as the second coming of jeebus who go on whitch hunts hunting down anyone who doesnt give it a 10 out of 10 on this site. It's pretty boring majority of the time and requires a huge amount investment to get to some of the funny parts then you have the rabid fanbase,that About Sums up why a lot of people don't think it's very good certainly and certainly not perfect.
it's hit and miss show. only stupid people think gintama is for everyone. also comedy is very subjective.

hunting downvoter is normal for every fanbases. the abnormal one is the one make alts to downvote and upvote their favorite. but still it happened to another fanbase. when someone become high rated/popular, there is always hater haunted them, and extream fanboys from it grinding everywhere.

some people not representative everyone, and some people never can see another people view.

PS: why you and mikasa bump this thread again? none of gintama fans actually care until it pop up everytime.
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Unyilkdr said:
davinci12 said:
Requires a lot of investment until it gits gud. Only die hardfans of the series watch pass the orginal,they give anything gintama related 10/10 leading it to be overrated in comparison to other similarly scored anime with over 10 times the amount of viewers which makes some people tilt there eyebrows. Then you have the gintama cultists who see it as the second coming of jeebus who go on whitch hunts hunting down anyone who doesnt give it a 10 out of 10 on this site. It's pretty boring majority of the time and requires a huge amount investment to get to some of the funny parts then you have the rabid fanbase,that About Sums up why a lot of people don't think it's very good certainly and certainly not perfect.
it's hit and miss show. only stupid people that think gintama is for everyone. also comedy is very subjective as well.

hunting downvoter is normal in every fanbases. the abnormal one is make alts to downvote and upvote their favorite and not. still it always vice versa. when someone become high rated/popular, there is always hater haunted them, and extream fanboys from it grinding everywhere.

some people not representative everyone, and some people never can see another people view.

PS: why you and mikasa bump this thread again? none of gintama fans actually care until it pop up everytime.

Oh no the cults after me!

Also can you please learn english and stop using google translate? You hardly make any sense at all. At least try to edit
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Show is shit obvs.

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Oh no the cults after me!

Also can you please learn english and stop using google translate? You hardly make any sense at all. At least try to edit
the fuck? did i blame you or something? i only answer your critics. i am not even cultist one. i think gintama is overrated too. look my post with shintai88. i only defend my favorite series.

i am not even attacking you. i also admit that gintama is not perfect. at least give me reason, don't be: "OMG, i cant counter my argument, lets find her wrong grammer or saying bad about him until he mad then said he is butthurt and then i can go safely".
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Show is shit obvs.
even the fans admit it. this shows literaly SHIT.
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Unyilkdr said:
davinci12 said:
Oh no the cults after me!

Also can you please learn english and stop using google translate? You hardly make any sense at all. At least try to edit
the fuck? did i blame you or something? i only answer your critics. i am not even cultist one. i think gintama is overrated too. look my post with shintai88. i only defend my favorite series.

i am not even attacking you. i also admit that gintama is not perfect. at least give me reason, don't be: "OMG, i cant counter my argument, lets find her wrong grammer or saying bad about him until he mad then said he is butthurt and then i can go safely".


Lol wasn't countering your " argument", simply pointing out your bad english. It's hard to make out some of the things you post as others in this topic have pointed out. Also gintama cultist theory confirmed
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Because it's popular and they're hipsters.

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Lol wasn't countering your " argument", simply pointing out your bad english. It's hard to make out some of the things you post as others in this topic have pointed out. Also gintama cultist theory confirmed
facepalm. where is my cultism you are talking about?
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Gintama is family guy tier humor, I cant wait for it to end in a year or 2 so it can fade to obscurity finally.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Thread moved to the Gintama board.
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I like Gintama, I'm 30 episodes into the series and so far it's decent. Some episodes are unfunny tbh but I have a question. Will it get better later? Don't get me wrong, I like it and I actually consider Kagura one of my favs now, but I do feel the series is kinda overrated in MAL. Like I don't think it's better than other shonen tbh. It's a gag anime and nothing more.
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^LOL.. that's exactly what i thought but without the overrated part, because i genuinely enjoy the comedy, and then "THAT ARC" happened.
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^LOL.. that's exactly what i thought but without the overrated part, because i genuinely enjoy the comedy, and then "THAT ARC" happened.

that's great *.*
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Guess they just don't have a sense of humour
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