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Feb 6, 2015 4:28 PM

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o123o said:
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lol i think i'm gonna finish baby steps first. and i might just marathon slam dunk before that. but i could watch it after that!



Its only 13 episodes, but alright


well maybe i'll watch it after i finish baby steps
but i'm gonna be really busy tomorrow and on sunday so we'll have to wait and see :P
Feb 6, 2015 4:29 PM

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o123o said:
chuuzenjis said:


lol i think i'm gonna finish baby steps first. and i might just marathon slam dunk before that. but i could watch it after that!



Its only 13 episodes, but alright


on another note
i am so confused by the name of that anime
what
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Feb 6, 2015 4:30 PM

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As a person who mainly reads yuri manga, I don't mind yaoi. I don't actively go out to read it, but if someone shows me a series and it looks interesting, I'll go ahead and take a look (I end up forgetting about most after a chapter though...). I hardly watch anime in general, so the amount of yaoi anime I've seen is pretty tiny (like, two).

The only gripe of yaoi I have is the usually disproportionate art. It's really distracting.

Feb 6, 2015 4:30 PM

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chuuzenjis said:
o123o said:



Its only 13 episodes, but alright


on another note
i am so confused by the name of that anime
what
does
that
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mean


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Feb 6, 2015 4:30 PM

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I watched that Yaoi Evangelion show once in which Kaworu touches Shinji's hand

Damn that was so lewd >~<
Feb 6, 2015 4:32 PM

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chuuzenjis said:
i am so confused by the name of that anime

even after finishing it, i dont understand lmao
Feb 6, 2015 4:33 PM

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mayukachan said:
chuuzenjis said:
i am so confused by the name of that anime

even after finishing it, i dont understand lmao



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Feb 6, 2015 4:39 PM
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KawaiiWeeabz said:
I watched that Yaoi Evangelion show once in which Kaworu touches Shinji's hand

Damn that was so lewd >~<


It was a big strange hand?
Feb 6, 2015 4:40 PM

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R3C said:
KawaiiWeeabz said:
I watched that Yaoi Evangelion show once in which Kaworu touches Shinji's hand

Damn that was so lewd >~<


It was a big strange hand?


N-NOT AGAIN PLS D:

(Nah they were playing piano and stuff)
Feb 6, 2015 4:42 PM

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KawaiiWeeabz said:
I watched that Yaoi Evangelion show once in which Kaworu touches Shinji's hand

Damn that was so lewd >~<

that movie was so gay

sadly, the piano scenes are the only things good about it
Feb 6, 2015 4:45 PM
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mayukachan said:
KawaiiWeeabz said:
I watched that Yaoi Evangelion show once in which Kaworu touches Shinji's hand

Damn that was so lewd >~<

that movie was so gay


its a yaoi thread
Feb 6, 2015 4:47 PM

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mayukachan said:
KawaiiWeeabz said:
I watched that Yaoi Evangelion show once in which Kaworu touches Shinji's hand

Damn that was so lewd >~<

that movie was so gay

sadly, the piano scenes are the only things good about it


Yeah unfortunately :S
Feb 6, 2015 6:21 PM

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I'm not exactly an avid fan of the piano scenes in Eva 3.0 but believe me that movie has WAAAAY bigger problems.
Feb 6, 2015 6:59 PM

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I'm pretty much uncomfortable with pretty much any kind of romance.
Feb 6, 2015 7:03 PM

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Malkshake said:
I'm pretty much uncomfortable with pretty much any kind of romance.


I understand. *Intertwines hand*
Feb 6, 2015 7:07 PM

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Because is gross (for me). Yuri is beautiful though.
Feb 6, 2015 9:53 PM

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Have to agree with a majority of what Keys said. I've long since had the same views.
Feb 6, 2015 10:38 PM

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Forced sex, yaoi hands, ugly art, cliche stories.

I like them now thanks to Junko's moe art.
Feb 6, 2015 10:54 PM

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o123o said:
mayukachan said:

even after finishing it, i dont understand lmao



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lmao
Feb 6, 2015 11:37 PM

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I love yaoi.. Expand your horizons, man..
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Feb 7, 2015 2:53 AM

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mayukachan said:
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ohh never heard of that before. thanks a bunch <3

oh boy

please let me know your thoughts too since y123y forced me to watch it too XD

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From what I've experienced, it's all the same. I don't hate it, but I wish there wasn't a rapist in every one (not literally mind you, but you know what I mean -.- )

i was about to take you seriously but you've read 21 manga and i bet most of them are not BL lol

Yes, because I am going to put possible rapist H on my list. That's totally the norm.
Feb 7, 2015 2:54 AM

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Yaoi<3
Feb 7, 2015 4:45 AM

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I do not hate Yaoi like Natsuyasumi and Boku no Pico
Feb 7, 2015 4:53 AM

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Yaoi has it's target audience as have the other genres. If you don't belong to it, that's too bad, but hating is a way too strong word.

I belong in the target audience of yaoi, and I enjoy it immersely. It''s hot.
Feb 7, 2015 6:45 AM

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I don't hate Yaoi, but I feel like I would only watch it if I was having my highest moment. Somehow yaoi animes miss the romance/pure love feel (probably not all of them but most of them). Yuri animes at least try to focus on the emotions, not just the spicy stuff.

I have some male ships (in non-yaoi manga/anime), but I only ship them based on their platonic/verbal interactions. I also have no problem with gays in non-yaoi shows. But the image of two (or more...) guys doing it just grosses me out for some reason.

I also hate how some sh*tty yaoi animes try to portray male homosexuals as girly persons. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he acts like a girl.
Feb 7, 2015 6:52 AM

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The target audience isn't so much an issue I think. A number of women I've encountered have absolutely no problem with ecchi/hentai/yuri, and they aren't the target audience the genres were intended for. But when it comes to men with yaoi, they always avoid it on spot. I honestly think it's insecurities in sexuality, mainly because of the societal stigma against men for even liking anything remotely homosexual. It's developed such a strong complex in heterosexual men regarding things like yaoi

I like yaoi and I'm probably more into it than any fujoshi I know
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Feb 7, 2015 8:24 AM

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the idea that disgust is the reason men don't like yaoi is tied to the idea that it's out of sexual insecurity.... but no.. it's not, at least not for me... The real reason I hate yaoi is cause it'd be boring for me.

now... I do feel sick to my stomach at any display of gay affection, but that's not why I don't watch yaoi. Gays aren't the only thing in anime I find gross... I'm just as bothered by crossdressing and incest, but I watch those... no, it's more than just "Oh, I don't wanna watch gays, ewww".... I wouldn't not watch Shinseki Yori if that's the only thing that bothered me

but think about it like this.... what do you need to enjoy a romance of any kind? Empathy.... you need empathy to enjoy romance. Otherwise, you'll just get uninterested. Let's say I watched one.... let's say I did... The best one you could think of... which appears to be love-stage I guess.. seems what you fucking people like. Never seen one, don't know
If I can't empathize with the romance, then how will I like it?
If seeing the characters be together and be happy together doesn't make me feel joy then how will I root for them? How will I want to see them together? How will it matter to me if it ends in tragedy? I woudln't care... that means a happy end would get no reaction... a sad end would get no reaction... nothing that could possibly happen would effect my heart in any way.

What then? If you can't support and empathize with a romantic relationship, then a romance anime will only do one thing.... BORE YOU.... You think it's something as simple as "eww, I don't wanna see that"... no? There's gay characters and scenes from tons of shows I watch, but I don't care. They're not main characters, but there's still some scene there that gross me out, but that's not enough to make me quit watching.
However, if a romance can't make you laugh, cry, feel sad, happy, angry, concerned or anything for the relationship... then all you'll end up feeling is boredom.
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the idea that disgust is the reason men don't like yaoi is tied to the idea that it's out of sexual insecurity.... but no.. it's not, at least not for me... The real reason I hate yaoi is cause it'd be boring for me.

now... I do feel sick to my stomach at any display of gay affection, but that's not why I don't watch yaoi. Gays aren't the only thing in anime I find gross... I'm just as bothered by crossdressing and incest, but I watch those... no, it's more than just "Oh, I don't wanna watch gays, ewww".... I wouldn't not watch Shinseki Yori if that's the only thing that bothered me

but think about it like this.... what do you need to enjoy a romance of any kind? Empathy.... you need empathy to enjoy romance. Otherwise, you'll just get uninterested. Let's say I watched one.... let's say I did... The best one you could think of... which appears to be love-stage I guess.. seems what you fucking people like. Never seen one, don't know
If I can't empathize with the romance, then how will I like it?
If seeing the characters be together and be happy together doesn't make me feel joy then how will I root for them? How will I want to see them together? How will it matter to me if it ends in tragedy? I woudln't care... that means a happy end would get no reaction... a sad end would get no reaction... nothing that could possibly happen would effect my heart in any way.

What then? If you can't support and empathize with a romantic relationship, then a romance anime will only do one thing.... BORE YOU.... You think it's something as simple as "eww, I don't wanna see that"... no? There's gay characters and scenes from tons of shows I watch, but I don't care. They're not main characters, but there's still some scene there that gross me out, but that's not enough to make me quit watching.
However, if a romance can't make you laugh, cry, feel sad, happy, angry, concerned or anything for the relationship... then all you'll end up feeling is boredom.
You just said what I wanted to say. Maybe I will never understand why people watch/read yaoi and yuri. I tried reading one and I really hated it. Just like you said I couldn't understand their romantic relationship. I see girls making out in Hentai anime/manga many times but it doesn't excite me at all.
Apr 3, 2018 10:08 AM
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I hate it because I'm not gay and not into that type of stuff. It can't get more simple than that.
Apr 3, 2018 10:10 AM

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Obviously, it's because I'm not a faggot
Apr 3, 2018 10:13 AM

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*Inserting obligatory 'Its Disgusting' comment to trigger people here and cuz its fun*

Yea , Its disgusting , Yuri and Yaoi Both ..


Apr 3, 2018 11:19 AM

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Most man can't appreciate yaoi for the same reason they can't appreciate gay porn.

The situation may change from sexual to romantic, but the truth is that romance and sex are never truly separable (or at least very hard to completely separate), so the way we process both are basically the same.

A kiss, hugs, touching, eye to eye contact, and even HAND HOLDING. We may think we're judging those interactions solely from a romantic standpoint, but they're actually being processed sexualy as well.

So It makes sense that most man can't stand yaoi, since their minds reject it sexualy.
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TickTockOtaku said:
Let’s first look at the word “yaoi”.

Yaoi: “A Japanese genre of fictional media focusing on homoerotic romantic or sexual relationships between male characters.”

This genre is usually created by female authors for the female audiences. However, anyone can like yaoi, no matter what gender or sexual orientation you are. But I’ve noticed in the anime community, some straight people disregard this genre as “not their thing” because they’re either uncomfortable by it, or they can’t relate to it.

But the question I wanna ask you guys is why? And here is my guess:

As a gay person, I’ve grown up watching straight couples in movies, TV shows, anime, and every freakin’ toilet paper commercials. Straight people are everywhere! So, because I’ve seen it all my life, I’ve grown use to it. When I see a straight couple holding hands, it doesn’t bother me, nor does it make me uncomfortable. In fact, it sometimes makes me go “aww, they’re so cute together”. Why? Because I can relate to the love they share, whether they’re a straight couple or a gay people. People can relate to love, and love doesn’t make anyone uncomfortable.

Unfortunately, straight people don’t see it that way about gay people. And who can really blame them? Gay people are not nearly as represented in the media as straight people are. So when they see a gay couple holding hands, it’s rare and unusual for them. They look at it as if it’s some sort of a circus act. They don’t see it as a normal and everyday thing, they just think it’s a “genre” that you either like or dislike. And I can’t help but find this as a problem. Why? Well, do you consider a movie with an all-black cast to be a "matter of taste"? It just rubs me the wrong way.

Some anime fans would stay far away from yaoi. It doesn’t matter if a certain anime show has great animation, well-developed characters, interesting plot or amazing writing. If the story consists of a gay couple, they’ll automatically dismiss it and say “I’m not into yaoi”. They’re not used to seeing it, therefore, they don’t want to get used to it. They’d rather miss out on a good anime than to see two male characters being affectionate with each other (and these are hand-drawn animated characters, not real people!). I saw a lot of comments like "Yikes, I'm traumatized now", and those reactions were especially prominent when "Love Stage!!" came out.

I guess the point that I’m trying to make here is that I think more people need to be more open-minded about yaoi, and actually give it a chance. Two male characters who love each other shouldn’t “gross” you out. It shouldn’t make you feel uncomfortable; it shouldn’t make you feel like you’re “scarred for life”. Because at the end of the day, these characters represent human beings showing true human emotions, and it doesn’t matter what gender they are. It might even help you learn and grow as an anime fan, and maybe find a whole new perspective on this genre.

I would like to know your thoughts on this.

P.S. Of course, I'd say the same thing about yuri, but it seems - to me anyway - that yaoi gets more criticism.

From what I read to your comment, you have opened me a new persepctive that media and people really focus on straight couples and not the other types. I want to say that you are so right that people should recognise that Love is in all shapes and isn't only on hetero couples.
I really like yaoi not only about romances but also for the comedy and the plot. Also I want people to think that yaoi isn't bad like how is it said. Even the Anime Man has confessed that has yaoi. Not to be disgusted so much about it.
Apr 3, 2018 12:26 PM
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I’ve never liked yaoi (or yuri animes for that matter), so I keep well away from them, even in the slightest of forms...

This is not because I’m homophobic, it’s just personal choice and my differences in likes/tastes to anyone else
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It's because of the rape vibes everywhere.
I probably regret this post by now.
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because i'm not down with that gay shit.
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TickTockOtaku said:
This genre is usually created by female authors for the female audiences. However, anyone can like yaoi, no matter what gender or sexual orientation you are. But I’ve noticed in the anime community, some straight people disregard this genre as “not their thing” because they’re either uncomfortable by it, or they can’t relate to it.


Um yeah, because I'm not gay or bi, so I can't relate at all. I'm a straight male, so it does make me uncomfortable because curvy feminine bodies attract me, not a male body. Hell, bodies don't even have to do with it really, it's rather I just can't see myself in that kind of situation. Some anime fans (such as myself) like to put themselves in the shoes of the protagonist, so if I am putting myself in the shoes of a gay person in a yaoi, you can bet your ass that would make me extremely uncomfortable because I ain't gay.

TickTockOtaku said:
I guess the point that I’m trying to make here is that I think more people need to be more open-minded about yaoi, and actually give it a chance. Two male characters who love each other shouldn’t “gross” you out. It shouldn’t make you feel uncomfortable; it shouldn’t make you feel like you’re “scarred for life”. Because at the end of the day, these characters represent human beings showing true human emotions, and it doesn’t matter what gender they are. It might even help you learn and grow as an anime fan, and maybe find a whole new perspective on this genre.


While you do have a point that they "represent human beings showing true human emotions, and it doesn't matter what gender they are" it still just doesn't sit right with some straight people. Some things are just naturally uncomfortable to some people. Frankly, I like curvy women bodies, and it's more natural to me to see a man and a woman, rather than a woman and a woman, or a man and a man. It really is just a matter of taste, and it doesn't matter if you want to accept that or not. It's the truth.
Apr 3, 2018 12:58 PM
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Because yaoi is an atrocity with garbage-tier art and garbage-tier romances, and don't get me started on fujoshis.
Besides, I don't like yuri either.

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*Inserting obligatory 'Its Disgusting' comment to trigger people here and cuz its fun*

Yea , Its disgusting , Yuri and Yaoi Both ..

Never change, kazuro.
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Apr 3, 2018 1:05 PM

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i don't give a shit about yaoi and i don't mind casual fans but fujoshis are obnoxious and give female anime fans a bad reputation.
perfect example of that is akidearest.
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Edward Elric > your waifu

Apr 3, 2018 1:10 PM

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I would guess it's because the trashy stuff plagues the genre and obscures the good stuff. Same with ecchi and harem.
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Because yaoi is an atrocity with garbage-tier art and garbage-tier romances, and don't get me started on fujoshis. Plus, its for fat, ugly, and socially inept girls with no life and whom nobody likes.
Besides, I don't like yuri either .


(what a great thread to necro btw)

I am not fat. So there is that. I won beauty contests so I am not ugly. Socially inept with no life because of disability and plenty of people liked me because I was very popular in school and everyone knew I liked yaoi.

And I like Yuri.

And I like hentai.

Honestly just like a lot of porn.

Ecchi is frustrating though cause they never bang. A lot of romance anime are frustrating too because they never get together until the end.
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I can understand this kind of thing, but I can't at the same time. I've seen an episode of Yuri on Ice (if that counts) and I'm fine with it, in fact I think it's a great anime I just haven't gotten round to completing.

However, Yaoi as a genre tends to be ridiculed with cliches that I don't like, such as the 'romance' of the show starting with major characters sexually-assaulting other non-consenting characters. Or the main character 'accidentally' kissing someone multiple times in the same episode, not to comedic effect. Maybe I haven't seen enough Yaoi, but those cliches just put me off.
Apr 3, 2018 1:16 PM
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Ergh, I've never really been one of the people who hates yaoi and fujo or anything. I've got no personal interest in their product but I kind of feel compelled to silently support it all the same. Good for them for having their thing they love and being open about it, honestly.

I have no personal investment in it and I'm not at all interested in looking into it myself, but by all means I am for it existing as it is without too much tampering. Let them have their thing they love, and so fucking what if other people find it gross, weird, or trashy. Their thing is their thing.
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I can understand this kind of thing, but I can't at the same time. I've seen an episode of Yuri on Ice (if that counts) and I'm fine with it, in fact I think it's a great anime I just haven't gotten round to completing.

However, Yaoi as a genre tends to be ridiculed with cliches that I don't like, such as the 'romance' of the show starting with major characters sexually-assaulting other non-consenting characters. Or the main character 'accidentally' kissing someone multiple times in the same episode, not to comedic effect. Maybe I haven't seen enough Yaoi, but those cliches just put me off.


Just like the romance genre is filled with misunderstandings and not getting together and the ecchi genre is filled with abusive women and shoujo romance that manage to get together are always age gap, incest, or very abusive. Possibly all three. And if they manage in a romance to avoid all of those things, it will be a tragedy. Sorry one of them dies. And if not, then it will be sexist as hell like Oremonogatari but also boring as hell which is a big sin.

*thanks goodness for manga*
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because either you accept it or not, many people are still insecure about themselves and fearful of society's eyes and how they are perceived by other people.
Still, I do not understand one thing.
Are people not bored with the same hetero romance?
I think it's getting boring to see the same thing again and again.
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Energetic-Nova said:
ButadonMeitantei said:
I can understand this kind of thing, but I can't at the same time. I've seen an episode of Yuri on Ice (if that counts) and I'm fine with it, in fact I think it's a great anime I just haven't gotten round to completing.

However, Yaoi as a genre tends to be ridiculed with cliches that I don't like, such as the 'romance' of the show starting with major characters sexually-assaulting other non-consenting characters. Or the main character 'accidentally' kissing someone multiple times in the same episode, not to comedic effect. Maybe I haven't seen enough Yaoi, but those cliches just put me off.


Just like the romance genre is filled with misunderstandings and not getting together and the ecchi genre is filled with abusive women and shoujo romance that manage to get together are always age gap, incest, or very abusive. Possibly all three. And if they manage in a romance to avoid all of those things, it will be a tragedy. Sorry one of them dies. And if not, then it will be sexist as hell like Oremonogatari but also boring as hell which is a big sin.

*thanks goodness for manga*


Exactly. Annoying tropes that make me avoid such a genre.
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As a former fujo I can say they give BL, and gay people in general, a bad reputation. Then again, I've never met a Fujo above the age of 16 so maybe that's why people tend to stay away from yaoi. No one wants to be around pre-pubescent kids.
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It's because it's sexualized content targeted at primarily women. Tbh I don't think most people care just so happens to be gay in any show, but most won't go out of their way to look what is pretty much ecchi/porn.
Apr 3, 2018 3:31 PM

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I actually encourage yaoi, but not yuri. I need more girls for my harem, so yaoi for life

Lol
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As a former fujo I can say they give BL, and gay people in general, a bad reputation. Then again, I've never met a Fujo above the age of 16 so maybe that's why people tend to stay away from yaoi. No one wants to be around pre-pubescent kids.

I am 27. Though you are right, much like ALL ANIME, people are under 20 in general. If I go to convention, and I meet people excited about BL, I am checking their badge to see if they are an adult or not. As convention has overwhelmingly teen attendees in general.

Even 12 year old girls have hit puberty for the most part. Which is why they are interested in a genre with all guys in it.

For some reason, stuff which girls like, such as Inuyasha, get reputations like this, of annoying, excitable fans. Maybe the anime community hates real women. Or how women engage with anime.
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