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battlestarr said: This thread is extremely depressing to read. I was always afraid that this show would turn into Re:Zero 2.0 thanks to annoying ship wars and a pretty immature fanbase, and it would seem I was right. The salt in this thread is enough to compete with the pacific ocean. I'll try to address a few of the ridiculous things said in this thread in this one comment. 1. 'Ichigo's actions didn't make any sense, and were only used to create forced drama'/'Ichigo was only made to act the way she did in order to move the plot along'. Ichigo's actions in this episode were completely justified and were foreshadowed from episode 12. Take off your waifu glasses and see things from her point of view. She was just informed by one of the nines that Zero Two sucks her partner's dry and leaves them for dead, and that by piloting sterlizia, Hiro was losing his humanity. She just witnessed zero two strangle Hiro in sterlizia. After this, why would she just allow Zero Two to be with Hiro? Why would she want Hiro to pilot with her again? The decisions she made in this episode were pretty reasonable considering the knowledge she had just become privy to. Honestly, it would have made no sense if ichigo trusted Zero Two after what she learned. 2. 'Hiro's actions made no sense' Hiro's actions also were completely reasonable throughout this episode. His decision to sneak out of the room happened when it did because that was his first opportunity to do so and because it was the first time he was told that zero two would be leaving squad 13 for good. He tried to leave the room before but was stopped by one of his teammates. He used the knife that ichigo left, and object he did not previously have access to, in order to sneak out of the room. The fact that this happened at the same time as when zero two was allowed to see him is a little bit convenient, but it was not big enough of a plot contrivance to be considered bad writing. Hiro's reaction to zero two beating down his team was reasonable as well. If anything, he was actually too nice to her, all things considered. Let's not forget that the reason he went to talk to zero two was partially because he was unsure about whether or not she was just using him to become human and turning him into a monster (which she was). The fact that the first time he sees zero two after his near death experience (caused by her), she's laughing maniacally over the battered bodies of his teammates and holding and holding ichigo in the air before dropping her like she's human waste, probably didn't increase his trust in her. Doing nothing more than calling her a monster was arguably too nice. We have yet to see how he responds to Ichigo's confession, so it's too soon to judge his actions here. 3. 'This episode was all forced drama' What does that even mean? How does this qualify as forced drama? This wasn't caused by some obvious misunderstanding on the part of the characters or some absurd plot contrivance. The issue of Zero Two's selfishness and lack of regard for the lives of others has been referenced countless times throughout the series. This was the perfect time to bring it to the forefront of the narrative. The same goes for ichigo's confession of love. We've known that she is in love with Hiro for a long time now. The midpoint of the series is the perfect time to address that problem and tie up that subplot. The way it was executed makes perfect sense as well. Now that Ichigo believes Zero Two is a danger to Hiro, and refuses to let her have him, it only makes sense that she would declare her love for him. Things not happening the way you wanted them to is not indicative of poor writing. 4. Please remember that the series is not over yet. We've just passed the halfway point. People are treating this episode as if it is a conclusion. This episode did an excellent job establishing the conflicts between the main cast that will have to be resolved. Most of these subplots have been hinted at since the first few episodes and we're now seeing them put in the forefront. Episode 14 was necessary for the character arcs of Hiro, zero two, Ichigo, and Goro aswell. Before claiming an episode was done poorly, consider the intentions of the creators. This isn't a slice of life, or an easy going high school romcom. There are going to be episodes specifically made to get you mad. This was one of those. Episode 14 was just as well executed as episode 13. If you would take off your waifu glasses you would probably realize that too. While I appreciate that someone else looks at this episode without the waifu bias and that your rant was well written, it really isn't worth discussing with the FranXX community at this point. For them it's either Zero Two or Ichigo, everything else is irrelevant. |
Higurashi Gou is the worst anime in existence. |
| Why no interrupting from Nana/Hachi duo through all this emotional rampage between teens? Did Hiro said that word to Zero Two intentionally, so he has a plan, like trying to separate Zero Two from the squad since at last battles, she was agitated and endangered the others? After all, he can always save Zero Two later. What will happen the squad? Zero Two gone, Hiro in bed, Ichigo broken, Goro heartbroken... If they join the power with Nines, they could be dying. |
blazehero said: I very well agree.Gobro doesn’t deserve that. |
| Ichigo did nothing wrong. I love her even more now due to the sheer amount of salt she's produced on here, reddit and /a/. |
battlestarr said: Tomm01p said: While I appreciate that someone else looks at this episode without the waifu bias and that your rant was well written, it really isn't worth discussing with the FranXX community at this point. For them it's either Zero Two or Ichigo, everything else is irrelevant. Lol you're probably right, but I just felt compelled to get this off of my chest. Yeah, I get it. Used to do that a lot until I realized it's really not worth 90% of the time. Nowadays I always scout the community of the topic a bit before entering, just to see if they're being reasonable or completely brainless. And the answer to that is pretty clear in terms of FranXX. Anyway, it's always nice to see objective people here. Once again, nice explanation. |
Higurashi Gou is the worst anime in existence. |
| This episode just cemented the fact that Ichigo is the worst character(imo). She clearly knows how much Zero Two means to Hiro but still won't grow the fuck up and move on. Moreover, how stupid can Hiro get. He fully has the right to make a scene and get pissed at Ichigo and the rest, but no, he has to act all cool and not say what he wants. But when he get's the chance to speak to Zero Two who he must know is emotionally broken judging from her room and the memories, he fucking calls her a monster. Stupid af TLDR Liked the episode overall even though I hated Ichigo's behavior, the HQ and Hiro's stupidity |
| 'Time and titles do not matter in the bonds between people' |
| Im salty as fuck right now, this beta male faggot hiro doesn't deserve zero two, and I hope the rest of the gang die with the most horrible way can be. |
| 4K comments on Kissanime, 99,5 hating Bitchigo :D |
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| -Ichigo is shit -Hiro is shit -02 is shit no matter what u say And *** Ichigo doesn't even deserve Goro. He told Ichigo he loves her and she was like "Ahh thanks but I love Emilia(Hiro)". Honestly the characters are becoming more and more annoying. And there's 10 more episodes left. |
| So Hiro will reject Ichigo next episode, probably? It's pretty clear he wasn't returning those kisses. Ichigo will be heartbroken and maybe a new leader will rise up? Maybe even Hiro, since he was the leader when they were all kids and he has his memories (and probably personality) back. He might be able to use that as leverage to make contact with Zero Two in the next episode's battle (the Nines and Squad 13 are teaming up for an intense fight, right?) It would be really awkward if Hiro and Ichigo were going to be piloting together for that battle, -__- Technically, Hiro shouldn't be human anymore. His yellow cells have exceeded what a human can handle and the saurification should begin. He still looks pretty human, but so does Zero Two right now. I wonder how that will develop? I feel bad for Goro. The females of Squad 13 are all kind of bitchy EXCEPT the kinda tsundere one, how's that for irony? Hahaha XD It was an okay episode. Definitely a low from last week's high, but not near as bad as all the shippers are making it out to be XD |
Short_Circut said: Yeah I didn't find it as bad as everyone did and I cant help but sympathize a bit with Ichigo since after all, she is Hiro's childhood friend and Zero-Two did cross the line. I do hope Hiro and Zero-Two are reunited though since Hiro is still the only one who seems to be able to handle her. Ichigo and Hiro's romantic relationship is pretty one-sided and I don't really think anyone's feelings can just change that easily. Sucks for Goro though; I feel he's the one who is the most level headed in the entire situation and deserves the love he seeks :/Honestly I didn't find this episode as bad as everyone makes it out to be. The whole time I was just thinking why Zero2 didn't beat the crap out of everyone earlier (perhaps she was trying to hold it in so she wouldn't be called a monster). I'm pretty sure hiro and ichigo are gonna start acting like a 'couple' now although the feelings are still gonna be 1 sided I assume I give it min ep.17 max ep.20 before hiro and zero2 reunite with each other. At the very least, they end off the series with the 2 getting together NAZMUS_SHADAT said: Can someone tell summary of the episode and what happend at last? Hiro gets hospitalized. Entire squad is like "ha ha zero 2 you ain't seeing him loser." It's announced Zero 2 is switching squads back to the 9's squad. Zero 2 just wants to talk to hiro. feelsbadman. Ichigo visits hiro and cuts some apples, leaves the knife in his room. Hiro does some splinter cell shit and escapes by creating a rope using curtains. He goes to zero 2's room to try and talk. At the same time squad finally lets Zero 2 visit hiro but they find out he escaped. Zero2 goes full yandere mode and beats up everyone. Hiro comes back. Calls zero 2 a monster. Rkt.jpg. Hiro sees Zero 2 leaving the next day. Tries to go after her. Ichigo after getting cucked by hiro cucks Goro by kissing hiro. Confesses love Also thanks for the summary! |
JuanPGHApr 14, 2018 12:53 PM
battlestarr said: I frankly agree with every single thing you said, and i very well appreciate all the effort you put into writing your post :3This thread is extremely depressing to read. I was always afraid that this show would turn into Re:Zero 2.0 thanks to annoying ship wars and a pretty immature fanbase, and it would seem I was right. The salt in this thread is enough to compete with the pacific ocean. I'll try to address a few of the ridiculous things said in this thread in this one comment. 1. 'Ichigo's actions didn't make any sense, and were only used to create forced drama'/'Ichigo was only made to act the way she did in order to move the plot along'. Ichigo's actions in this episode were completely justified and were foreshadowed from episode 12. Take off your waifu glasses and see things from her point of view. She was just informed by one of the nines that Zero Two sucks her partner's dry and leaves them for dead, and that by piloting sterlizia, Hiro was losing his humanity. She just witnessed zero two strangle Hiro in sterlizia. After this, why would she just allow Zero Two to be with Hiro? Why would she want Hiro to pilot with her again? The decisions she made in this episode were pretty reasonable considering the knowledge she had just become privy to. Honestly, it would have made no sense if ichigo trusted Zero Two after what she learned. 2. 'Hiro's actions made no sense' Hiro's actions also were completely reasonable throughout this episode. His decision to sneak out of the room happened when it did because that was his first opportunity to do so and because it was the first time he was told that zero two would be leaving squad 13 for good. He tried to leave the room before but was stopped by one of his teammates. He used the knife that ichigo left, and object he did not previously have access to, in order to sneak out of the room. The fact that this happened at the same time as when zero two was allowed to see him is a little bit convenient, but it was not big enough of a plot contrivance to be considered bad writing. Hiro's reaction to zero two beating down his team was reasonable as well. If anything, he was actually too nice to her, all things considered. Let's not forget that the reason he went to talk to zero two was partially because he was unsure about whether or not she was just using him to become human and turning him into a monster (which she was). The fact that the first time he sees zero two after his near death experience (caused by her), she's laughing maniacally over the battered bodies of his teammates and holding and holding ichigo in the air before dropping her like she's human waste, probably didn't increase his trust in her. Doing nothing more than calling her a monster was arguably too nice. We have yet to see how he responds to Ichigo's confession, so it's too soon to judge his actions here. 3. 'This episode was all forced drama' What does that even mean? How does this qualify as forced drama? This wasn't caused by some obvious misunderstanding on the part of the characters or some absurd plot contrivance. The issue of Zero Two's selfishness and lack of regard for the lives of others has been referenced countless times throughout the series. This was the perfect time to bring it to the forefront of the narrative. The same goes for ichigo's confession of love. We've known that she is in love with Hiro for a long time now. The midpoint of the series is the perfect time to address that problem and tie up that subplot. The way it was executed makes perfect sense as well. Now that Ichigo believes Zero Two is a danger to Hiro, and refuses to let her have him, it only makes sense that she would declare her love for him. Things not happening the way you wanted them to is not indicative of poor writing. 4. Please remember that the series is not over yet. We've just passed the halfway point. People are treating this episode as if it is a conclusion. This episode did an excellent job establishing the conflicts between the main cast that will have to be resolved. Most of these subplots have been hinted at since the first few episodes and we're now seeing them put in the forefront. Episode 14 was necessary for the character arcs of Hiro, zero two, Ichigo, and Goro aswell. Before claiming an episode was done poorly, consider the intentions of the creators. This isn't a slice of life, or an easy going high school romcom. There are going to be episodes specifically made to get you mad. This was one of those. Episode 14 was just as well executed as episode 13. If you would take off your waifu glasses you would probably realize that too. |
| I usually try to remain as diplomatic as possible and respect other peoples opinions, but today couldn't help reacting to the armies of incredibly short sighted whiners who thought the Hiro x Zero ship would weigh anchor and set sail on episode 14 of 24 - and who obviously don't think it'll be all the more satisfying in the end after frustrating shit tearing them apart in the meantime. After episode 13 there's only two possibilities now, either a happy ending for the two of them, or a tragic one. Either way it's quality drama Secondly people are pissed off at Ichigo. Because people are unfortunately only capable of seeing things from their own perspective. Does Ichigo or anyone else in squad 13 know what the audience know? No (Yay for rhyming). The only info squad 13 have is that Zero Two was lying to Hiro, leading him on and trying to kill him, and that she's killed many others before in the same way. They didn't get to sit in their briefing room with a bucket of popcorn and watch episode 13 on the big screen and get all gushy over her tragic past. So they have no idea what Zero Two's thoughts or intentions were once Hiro was hospitalised. For any of them to have behaved any differently would have been complete nonsensical bullshit. I'm still firmly holding on to my ticket for the Hiro/Zero ship, but given the information they had to work with, there's no way I can think any of the others did anything wrong here. As far as Ichigo's confession goes, imagine this series were a romantic movie. This would be the part just over half way through where some big misunderstanding pushes the two leads away from each other, and at the same time an ex or other love interest swoops in to complicate things further. The romantic element of stories have been working this way for centuries, and anime's are not exactly renowned for wrapping up every issue to a happy resolution within a single episode Finally, addressing "forced drama" yes this could have been resolved differently if people had explained things better to each other, but considering Zero Two has been raised by adults to believe the lives of the children are worth nothing, and they're only purpose is to be used, why would she even try explaining to them that she just remembered she met Hiro once in the past, and he's actually special to her and now she's not trying to kill him, knowing it's not exactly likely they would believe her, and the same applies to Hiro, he doesn't know if Zero Two knew all along he was the one she met before and still wanted to kill him anyway, so again explaining a suddenly recovered memory that may or may not make a difference, is not likely to make them any more agreeable about letting him see her What was revealed to the audience in episode 13, is pretty much the opposite of what was revealed to the members of squad 13. |
ArcaedesApr 14, 2018 1:48 PM
| Honestly fuck Ichigo rn. I felt sad for her back then but nahhhhhh that was so uncalled for. You broke Goro's heart, you broke Hiro, you broke Zero Two. Nah she just ruined everything there. I understand the reasoning behind her actions but nah she went from like 100 to 0 real quick for me. She was way too selfish there. Hope she redeems herself bc i really liked her from b4. |
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playa4321 said: I fucking know it... Their give 24 episodes and no way they let now in episode 14 make a happy end for Zero two and Hiro, I think we must wait until the before they can life in happy... But I even feel that either Zero two or Hiro get die in the end of this anime or even both.... Thus why I said this show has no substance to talk about beyond forced drama and love triangle. Other mecha show has some interesting political stuffs or threat coming out at this point, while this show relies on forced drama to keep the audience's attention to hide away that the story writing, the setting, and the antagonists (khlax) of this show is way too weak/ lame. Inb4 Hiro being forced to fight 02 cliche , and then a great re-union for two of them at ep 23, and the real villain being papa themselves who try to use khlax energy to do something. |
| After last weeks episode, I am not really sure what to think of this episode... Drama too forced? But the build up from last week was just terminated... as much as I like Ichigo, this was perhaps wrong doing on her end. However she did manage to confess her love towards Hiro. I'm sorry for Goro, poor man :( |
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KuromeJane95 said: I can side with Ichigo, she doesn't want Hiro to die.This series spend so much time building up ichigo character for us to like her and yet this episode... boom. I have never hated ichigo as much as i do when im in episode 1. Can Ichigo please die next episode? Get killed by klaxosaur or papa. Someone just kill her and i dont even care much towards her. |
| I'm intrigued to see where the series goes from here Also Zero Two's horns growing make her look fucking badass |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| Very frustrating episode after last week's great episode. I was REALLY hoping we were done with the love triangle thing after Goro's confession, I mean I don't expect Ichigo to get it on with Goro straight away (or ever) but it would have been nice if she had given up on Hiro. (Still, Goro deserves better) Of all the reasons I can think of why Hiro and Zero Two would be separated, Ichigo and the team acting like this has got to be the most frustrating one. I really hate misunderstandings in anime that are caused by people not talking to each other or being allowed to when it is really needed Honestly, I've been enjoying the show so far, and last week's episode was great, but I'm still waiting for that moment that makes this show really worth it. I have no idea where the show is going, there is still no real purpose or end goal that we're working towards, and we're 14 episodes in. Hoping this picks up again next week, but it's a shame the best episode seems to have been followed up by the worst one, and that's mainly because we've fallen back to the love triangle thing instead of moving the plot forward at this point |
LauraBirdieApr 14, 2018 1:07 PM
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battlestarr said: This thread is extremely depressing to read. I was always afraid that this show would turn into Re:Zero 2.0 thanks to annoying ship wars and a pretty immature fanbase, and it would seem I was right. The salt in this thread is enough to compete with the pacific ocean. I'll try to address a few of the ridiculous things said in this thread in this one comment. 1. 'Ichigo's actions didn't make any sense, and were only used to create forced drama'/'Ichigo was only made to act the way she did in order to move the plot along'. Ichigo's actions in this episode were completely justified and were foreshadowed from episode 12. Take off your waifu glasses and see things from her point of view. She was just informed by one of the nines that Zero Two sucks her partner's dry and leaves them for dead, and that by piloting sterlizia, Hiro was losing his humanity. She just witnessed zero two strangle Hiro in sterlizia. After this, why would she just allow Zero Two to be with Hiro? Why would she want Hiro to pilot with her again? The decisions she made in this episode were pretty reasonable considering the knowledge she had just become privy to. Honestly, it would have made no sense if ichigo trusted Zero Two after what she learned. 2. 'Hiro's actions made no sense' Hiro's actions also were completely reasonable throughout this episode. His decision to sneak out of the room happened when it did because that was his first opportunity to do so and because it was the first time he was told that zero two would be leaving squad 13 for good. He tried to leave the room before but was stopped by one of his teammates. He used the knife that ichigo left, and object he did not previously have access to, in order to sneak out of the room. The fact that this happened at the same time as when zero two was allowed to see him is a little bit convenient, but it was not big enough of a plot contrivance to be considered bad writing. Hiro's reaction to zero two beating down his team was reasonable as well. If anything, he was actually too nice to her, all things considered. Let's not forget that the reason he went to talk to zero two was partially because he was unsure about whether or not she was just using him to become human and turning him into a monster (which she was). The fact that the first time he sees zero two after his near death experience (caused by her), she's laughing maniacally over the battered bodies of his teammates and holding and holding ichigo in the air before dropping her like she's human waste, probably didn't increase his trust in her. Doing nothing more than calling her a monster was arguably too nice. We have yet to see how he responds to Ichigo's confession, so it's too soon to judge his actions here. 3. 'This episode was all forced drama' What does that even mean? How does this qualify as forced drama? This wasn't caused by some obvious misunderstanding on the part of the characters or some absurd plot contrivance. The issue of Zero Two's selfishness and lack of regard for the lives of others has been referenced countless times throughout the series. This was the perfect time to bring it to the forefront of the narrative. The same goes for ichigo's confession of love. We've known that she is in love with Hiro for a long time now. The midpoint of the series is the perfect time to address that problem and tie up that subplot. The way it was executed makes perfect sense as well. Now that Ichigo believes Zero Two is a danger to Hiro, and refuses to let her have him, it only makes sense that she would declare her love for him. Things not happening the way you wanted them to is not indicative of poor writing. 4. Please remember that the series is not over yet. We've just passed the halfway point. People are treating this episode as if it is a conclusion. This episode did an excellent job establishing the conflicts between the main cast that will have to be resolved. Most of these subplots have been hinted at since the first few episodes and we're now seeing them put in the forefront. Episode 14 was necessary for the character arcs of Hiro, zero two, Ichigo, and Goro aswell. Before claiming an episode was done poorly, consider the intentions of the creators. This isn't a slice of life, or an easy going high school romcom. There are going to be episodes specifically made to get you mad. This was one of those. Episode 14 was just as well executed as episode 13. If you would take off your waifu glasses you would probably realize that too. I agree that everyone here(including me) is salty af, but isn't your argument wrong? 1)You're correct in the fact here that Ichigo's actions did not make sense is a false statement. They made sense to and extent but they were also wrong. Sure she was deceived by the nines and she hated Zero Two from the beginning(along with the fact that Zero Two was a bitch towards her team), but what bothers me is that she only takes her own feelings and hormones into consideration, giving no regard to how Hiro feels. Her actions did make sense but it doesn't change the fact that they were wrong. 2)Hiro's actions did not make sense is correct but not fully. You're right when you say how his escaping was not wrong story-wise, however what didn't make sense was how dumb he was. Throughout the show, we are shown the bond between both of them improving. Moreover, the memories coming back was surely something that would only bring them closer but what does Hiro do even when all of the facts are in his favor? Instead of being angry and talking with his teammates about letting him meet Zero Two, he just stays in his room(like the beta shit he is) instead of speaking out his mind, but when he meets Zero Two who he must know is broken emotionally judging from her room and the memories, he calls her a monster. The thing that she's most conscious about. That was the fact that made me feel like the writing was not up to standard 3)I agree with you here. With the way the story has been developing, it's obvious that the drama is fully justified. Anyone who says otherwise is just being immature and salty. 4)Again I agree with you. The episode was great even if it made most of us salty. The writing wasn't bad and I personally enjoyed the drama even if I was salty. There's still 10 episodes waiting for us so lets just see how it goes. Frankly i think that Zero Two will win in the end since she's the main character and love interest so that gives her a boost. |
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Nyron said: 1. The subplot was over in episode 2. The conclusion was spelled out and instead of her character going anywhere, she has been beating a dead horse for 12 episodes. You are a fucking genius! Beating a dead horse is exactly what this show has been doing since episode 2! How could I have forgotten this saying! I need more Yamiks in my life. |
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 if you spend your time hoping someone will suffer the consequences for what they did to your heart, then you’re allowing them to hurt you a second time in your mind. - Shannon L. Alder |
| I was expecting some kind of revelation this episode but got forced drama instead. Oh, well |
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