Overlord II Episode 10 Discussion

Mar 16, 2018 4:34 PM

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LF2005 said:

Tamikus said:

except that i have >.> the LN is the source material for the anime and YOU dont have a say in that , just like a Manga is the Canon for an Anime a VN a game an so on , the reality will not change because you want it that way

it is surely based on an LN or whatever (really can't care less), but the cannon for me is still the anime and even farther, the source is uncanon until the anime says otherwise.

the braincell damage i've received from this guy is too damn high

Mar 16, 2018 4:53 PM

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Oh damn ..
When some complain here ...
I just want the next episode to be a butchery ... :')
the Eight Finger will be Zero Fingers at the end. XD

Mar 16, 2018 6:21 PM

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Thanks goodness Cocytus stop him from killing Tsure, she has suffered enough and it would be a complete waste anyway after all that effort to get her in that condition again.

Wow she kissed him, I have a bad feeling their future might not go down so well because a lot of people die in this anime.

the princess showing her true colours again, poor Climb being used by her in that way, he will be crushed when he learns the truth.

Oh no Tsuare got kidnapped, then again if all they had to do was pick a lock something like that was bound to happen when your security is as tight as the Mushroom Kingdom's.

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Mar 16, 2018 7:10 PM

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LukesYGO_WSonYT said:
Thanks goodness Cocytus stop him from killing Tsure, she has suffered enough and it would be a complete waste anyway after all that effort to get her in that condition again.

Wow she kissed him, I have a bad feeling their future might not go down so well because a lot of people die in this anime.

the princess showing her true colours again, poor Climb being used by her in that way, he will be crushed when he learns the truth.

Oh no Tsuare got kidnapped, then again if all they had to do was pick a lock something like that was bound to happen when your security is as tight as the Mushroom Kingdom's.

You must have missed the fact that Ainz said that all of the shadow demons guarding the mansion would return with him. So the place was as secure as any normal human settlement by that point

Mar 16, 2018 11:38 PM

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This is amusing~ watching someone denying facts compensating for his own viewpoint being the only correct one is entertaining~

This is how some people still think the universe centered around the Earth in this day and age. So this is how Galileo must have felt when people don't beleive him (without the death sentence part) "Oh, I don't care your facts~I beleive in my fact so that's the truth~"

I have met some people don't beleive in bacteria since they never see one IN REAL LIFE~ Oh boy, there are people only accept their own knowledge and denying others'

Mar 17, 2018 2:35 AM

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398288 said:

LF2005 said:

you need to watch it again, he doesn't stand behind Sebas, you guys where watching this while drunks ? (you and Darklight0303), he puts himself behind Tuare to stop Sebas mortal blow against her, in the 1st place back stabbing goes agains Cocytus ideals. he things of himself as an honorable warrior.

i read the LN and it's said that his position was perfect if sebas were to act up to use his halberd,why don't you read it first before we talk about this

I said it ones and will said it again, thats is uncanon until the anime tells otherwise, I know and accept only what the anime has told me, Ainz has already jumped to the rescue of those in need several times, he toock a grouch vengance at clementain, we can clearly hear him try to find excuses for what looks like plain good dids, even tells them to figure it for themself when he doesn't manage to find an excuse. he also has gone to great lengths to try and negociate with Shalltear.

398288 said:

we have 3 guardians battle ready,you think he can fight them alone?not to mention if he starts anything he'll be attacked right then and there and he won't be revived if he dies

I know that who ever enters Nazarick, would 1st need to get rid of all the guardians, them they will need to face Sebas and the Pleiades, so he will be basically the finally boss there. don't know you but I will had put my strongest there.

Mar 17, 2018 2:56 AM

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LF2005 said:

398288 said:

i read the LN and it's said that his position was perfect if sebas were to act up to use his halberd,why don't you read it first before we talk about this

I said it ones and will said it again, thats is uncanon until the anime tells otherwise, I know and accept only what the anime has told me, Ainz has already jumped to the rescue of those in need several times, he toock a grouch vengance at clementain, we can clearly hear him try to find excuses for what looks like plain good dids, even tells them to figure it for themself when he doesn't manage to find an excuse. he also has gone to great lengths to try and negociate with Shalltear.

398288 said:

we have 3 guardians battle ready,you think he can fight them alone?not to mention if he starts anything he'll be attacked right then and there and he won't be revived if he dies

I know that who ever enters Nazarick, would 1st need to get rid of all the guardians, them they will need to face Sebas and the Pleiades, so he will be basically the finally boss there. don't know you but I will had put my strongest there.

Sebas and pleiades are not the strongest. They are merely the last line of defense before the Throne Room. The Pleiades are not even level 100. Any invaders are supposed to be stopped BEFORE the raid reaches them. By VICTIM and the generated mobs on his floor.

Mar 17, 2018 3:18 AM

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Darklight0303 said:

LF2005 said:

I said it ones and will said it again, thats is uncanon until the anime tells otherwise, I know and accept only what the anime has told me, Ainz has already jumped to the rescue of those in need several times, he toock a grouch vengance at clementain, we can clearly hear him try to find excuses for what looks like plain good dids, even tells them to figure it for themself when he doesn't manage to find an excuse. he also has gone to great lengths to try and negociate with Shalltear.

I know that who ever enters Nazarick, would 1st need to get rid of all the guardians, them they will need to face Sebas and the Pleiades, so he will be basically the finally boss there. don't know you but I will had put my strongest there.

Sebas and pleiades are not the strongest. They are merely the last line of defense before the Throne Room. The Pleiades are not even level 100. Any invaders are supposed to be stopped BEFORE the raid reaches them. By VICTIM and the generated mobs on his floor.

Nah, better save our breath for next ep discussion. Anything we know from the LN will not be acknowledged by him anyway.
It's way too funny how desperate he sounds that my side is dying of laughter~
Let's stop this wreck train of a discussion and entertain his delusion until he wakes up, 'k?

Mar 17, 2018 3:48 AM

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LF2005 said:

Tamikus said:

nope it is a book >.> from what you saying it sounds you never read one before >.>

The Harry Potter Movies are just an Adaptaion of the Books they were there first and told the Story just like an Anime is an Adaptation of LN which is a ( Book ) or manga , or VNs >.> you would be right with your argument if Overlord did not have the books and if it was only the Amime itself , but this is not the case, , and thats why Animes or Movies will never cover up (all ) things from the Books , btw you should read the Ovelord ( books ) you get there alot of more information about the whole world , and they are not to expensive either

from my point of view those are the scripts, LN's where never my cup of tea, not a book worm, the fact that I liked "Harry potter", "Lord of the rings" doesnt really entice me to read the books, the only exeption was FSN, but it only enticed me because I wanted a good end for Saber, but still the canon for me is deens FSN

and it does not change that you are still in the wrong >.> you can sit in your echochamber and tell yourself its true but the reality disagrees with you no matter how personal you feel about it you still will be wrong and remain wrong ,

TamikusMar 17, 2018 4:05 AM

Mar 17, 2018 4:14 AM

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LF2005 said:

"I said it ones and will said it again, thats is uncanon until the anime tells otherwise, I know and accept only what the anime has told me..."

Ok, I was trying to hold up and ignore this thing, but this is just too stupid not to point out. Do you know what the term canonicity even is or refers to?

It's not a choice you as a viewer can make to chose what is canon or not, first of all. You can of course choose what do you think is the better representation of a given work, given that an adaptation of said source material, aka canon derivate, could sometimes deviates for better or for worse from it. That would be one thing.

There's no such things as "the source material is not canon because I see it like that and say so". This is in my list of dumbest things I've read this year already, and I've read quite a bit of bullshit already. It's like saying I only believe in the light that came from the hole at the top of my cavern and creates shadows in the wall, and not in the sun and what "something" that makes the shadow in the first place.

One thing is to completely disconsider the canon origin/source material when analyzing an adaptation in its technical aspects. Saying that the source material is not canon is just rudimental at best.

DanpmssMar 17, 2018 4:19 AM

Mar 17, 2018 5:24 AM

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LF2005 said:

398288 said:

i read the LN and it's said that his position was perfect if sebas were to act up to use his halberd,why don't you read it first before we talk about this

I said it ones and will said it again, thats is uncanon until the anime tells otherwise, I know and accept only what the anime has told me, Ainz has already jumped to the rescue of those in need several times, he toock a grouch vengance at clementain, we can clearly hear him try to find excuses for what looks like plain good dids, even tells them to figure it for themself when he doesn't manage to find an excuse. he also has gone to great lengths to try and negociate with Shalltear.

398288 said:

we have 3 guardians battle ready,you think he can fight them alone?not to mention if he starts anything he'll be attacked right then and there and he won't be revived if he dies

I know that who ever enters Nazarick, would 1st need to get rid of all the guardians, them they will need to face Sebas and the Pleiades, so he will be basically the finally boss there. don't know you but I will had put my strongest there.

unless ainz fucking states that the last line of defense is the 8th floor,sebas and the maids are there to buy time for the guild to prepare the last fight,they know that if the 8th floor is breached,the rest is done for.The guild would at least offer a final fight with all 41 of them befitting their name as an 'evil' guild

Mar 17, 2018 5:49 AM

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LF2005 said:

398288 said:

i read the LN and it's said that his position was perfect if sebas were to act up to use his halberd,why don't you read it first before we talk about this

I said it ones and will said it again, thats is uncanon until the anime tells otherwise, I know and accept only what the anime has told me, Ainz has already jumped to the rescue of those in need several times, he toock a grouch vengance at clementain, we can clearly hear him try to find excuses for what looks like plain good dids, even tells them to figure it for themself when he doesn't manage to find an excuse. he also has gone to great lengths to try and negociate with Shalltear.

398288 said:

we have 3 guardians battle ready,you think he can fight them alone?not to mention if he starts anything he'll be attacked right then and there and he won't be revived if he dies

I know that who ever enters Nazarick, would 1st need to get rid of all the guardians, them they will need to face Sebas and the Pleiades, so he will be basically the finally boss there. don't know you but I will had put my strongest there.

pinguin butler is the final boss

Mar 17, 2018 7:11 AM

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Danpmss said:

LF2005 said:

"I said it ones and will said it again, thats is uncanon until the anime tells otherwise, I know and accept only what the anime has told me..."

Ok, I was trying to hold up and ignore this thing, but this is just too stupid not to point out. Do you know what the term canonicity even is or refers to?

yeah, of course, it is the official anime.

It's not a choice you as a viewer can make to chose what is canon or not, first of all. You can of course choose what do you think is the better representation of a given work, given that an adaptation of said source material, aka canon derivate, could sometimes deviates for better or for worse from it. That would be one thing.

of course, I will have to accept the official anime as the canon, but we were basically discussing an uncanon outcome, of an uncanon situation..

There's no such things as "the source material is not canon because I see it like that and say so". This is in my list of dumbest things I've read this year already, and I've read quite a bit of bullshit already. It's like saying I only believe in the light that came from the hole at the top of my cavern and creates shadows in the wall, and not in the sun and what "something" that makes the shadow in the first place.

the source doesn't matter? whats dictates the canon is the official release. what bullshit are you taliking about ? I know there is someting it is based on but still, the anime is his own think, and how it will choise to tell the story will be the canon & you probably will be bitching that it does follow the source.

One thing is to completely disconsider the canon origin/source material when analyzing an adaptation in its technical aspects. Saying that the source material is not canon is just rudimental at best.

canon doesn't equal = source material, you know how many source materials are not considered canon. example all the uncanon novels of Star Wars.

Mar 17, 2018 7:21 AM

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LF2005 said:

Danpmss said:

Ok, I was trying to hold up and ignore this thing, but this is just too stupid not to point out. Do you know what the term canonicity even is or refers to?

yeah, of course, it is the official anime.

It's not a choice you as a viewer can make to chose what is canon or not, first of all. You can of course choose what do you think is the better representation of a given work, given that an adaptation of said source material, aka canon derivate, could sometimes deviates for better or for worse from it. That would be one thing.

of course, I will have to accept the official anime as the canon, but we were basically discussing an uncanon outcome, of an uncanon situation..

There's no such things as "the source material is not canon because I see it like that and say so". This is in my list of dumbest things I've read this year already, and I've read quite a bit of bullshit already. It's like saying I only believe in the light that came from the hole at the top of my cavern and creates shadows in the wall, and not in the sun and what "something" that makes the shadow in the first place.

the source doesn't matter? whats dictates the canon is the official release. what bullshit are you taliking about ? I know there is someting it is based on but still, the anime is his own think, and how it will choise to tell the story will be the canon & you probably will be bitching that it does follow the source.

One thing is to completely disconsider the canon origin/source material when analyzing an adaptation in its technical aspects. Saying that the source material is not canon is just rudimental at best.

canon doesn't equal = source material, you know how many source materials are not considered canon. example all the uncanon novels of Star Wars.

you are still wrong and at that point you embarrassing yourself further and further with such dumb statements , i think you live i a echochamber and your stubbornes and ignorance is prove enough of that >.> you were proven wrong many many times you will remain wrong and there is nothing you can do about it, and when you talk bullshit you get called out for it >.> its like you are in a contest with yourself to see who could come up with the dumbest analogy

TamikusMar 17, 2018 7:24 AM

Mar 17, 2018 7:25 AM

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One last thing. Here is the full layout of Nazarick

Notice how Sebas is not even MENTIONED as the defenders? Now what more proof do you want that your fanfiction is just that? Fiction?

Mar 17, 2018 9:35 AM

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Tamikus said:

you are still wrong and at that point you embarrassing yourself further and further with such dumb statements , i think you live i a echochamber and your stubbornes and ignorance is prove enough of that >.> you were proven wrong many many times you will remain wrong and there is nothing you can do about it, and when you talk bullshit you get called out for it >.> its like you are in a contest with yourself to see who could come up with the dumbest analogy

where exactly I'm wrong, the source is the source but the canon is anything that is presented in the anime, liked it or not. this is the second official release of overlord

Darklight0303 said:
One last thing. Here is the full layout of Nazarick

Notice how Sebas is not even MENTIONED as the defenders? Now what more proof do you want that your fanfiction is just that? Fiction?

well, from starters it was two uncanon outcomes of an uncanon situation, I gave a loock at the uncanon and see what I found, well guess thats offial canon if the BD of the anime says so.

"According to the Overlord Blu-ray 1 Special - Emissary of the King: "Even among the Guardians of Nazarick, those three can be considered the top among the warrior classes. Cocytus has the advantage against Albedo, but not against Sebas. Sebas is strong against Cocytus, but not against Albedo. Albedo can probably win against Sebas, but not against Cocytus."

so the three strongest are Albedo, Sebas & Cocytus, locked in a rock, scissors, paper balance where albedo has only a chance at winning against Sebas.

LF2005Mar 17, 2018 9:39 AM

Mar 17, 2018 9:53 AM

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LF2005 said:

Tamikus said:

you are still wrong and at that point you embarrassing yourself further and further with such dumb statements , i think you live i a echochamber and your stubbornes and ignorance is prove enough of that >.> you were proven wrong many many times you will remain wrong and there is nothing you can do about it, and when you talk bullshit you get called out for it >.> its like you are in a contest with yourself to see who could come up with the dumbest analogy

where exactly I'm wrong, the source is the source but the canon is anything that is presented in the anime, liked it or not. this is the second official release of overlord

Darklight0303 said:
One last thing. Here is the full layout of Nazarick

Notice how Sebas is not even MENTIONED as the defenders? Now what more proof do you want that your fanfiction is just that? Fiction?

well, from starters it was two uncanon outcomes of an uncanon situation, I gave a loock at the uncanon and see what I found, well guess thats offial canon if the BD of the anime says so.

"According to the Overlord Blu-ray 1 Special - Emissary of the King: "Even among the Guardians of Nazarick, those three can be considered the top among the warrior classes. Cocytus has the advantage against Albedo, but not against Sebas. Sebas is strong against Cocytus, but not against Albedo. Albedo can probably win against Sebas, but not against Cocytus."

so the three strongest are Albedo, Sebas & Cocytus, locked in a rock, scissors, paper balance where albedo has only a chance at winning against Sebas.

nope you are still wrong and living in a echochamber source is canon and you will not change it no matter how hard you wish that this what you think is true , The author of the Books has the ultimate say in what canon is The Author is the one that has created this universe and all the charackters in it and not the Anime studio or YOU and you have to deal with it , you are just stubborn and to ignorant to accept these facts and you will never be in the right with these cases , you talk only bullshit and speak only for yourself

TamikusMar 17, 2018 10:05 AM

Mar 17, 2018 9:56 AM

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Tamikus said:

LF2005 said:

where exactly I'm wrong, the source is the source but the canon is anything that is presented in the anime, liked it or not. this is the second official release of overlord

Darklight0303 said:
One last thing. Here is the full layout of Nazarick

Notice how Sebas is not even MENTIONED as the defenders? Now what more proof do you want that your fanfiction is just that? Fiction?

well, from starters it was two uncanon outcomes of an uncanon situation, I gave a loock at the uncanon and see what I found, well guess thats offial canon if the BD of the anime says so.

"According to the Overlord Blu-ray 1 Special - Emissary of the King: "Even among the Guardians of Nazarick, those three can be considered the top among the warrior classes. Cocytus has the advantage against Albedo, but not against Sebas. Sebas is strong against Cocytus, but not against Albedo. Albedo can probably win against Sebas, but not against Cocytus."

so the three strongest are Albedo, Sebas & Cocytus, locked in a rock, scissors, paper balance where albedo has only a chance at winning against Sebas.

nope you are still wrong and living in a echochamber source is canon and you will not change it no matter how hard you wish that this what you think is true , The author of the Books has the ultimate say in what canon is and not the Anime studio or YOU and you have to deal with it

Not to mention that is only 1 v 1. Here we had VICTIM with its devastating Death effect, Demiurge with his summons and high magic, Supposedly Ainz with the STAFF OF AINZ OAL GOWN NO LESS as well as Cocytus AND Solution.

You deserve a gold fucking medal for the degree of mental gymnastics you are foolishly performing when you have already lost the plot.

You lost this one. Go home. It's over.

Mar 17, 2018 7:20 PM

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LF2005 said:

Tamikus said:

nope it is a book >.> from what you saying it sounds you never read one before >.>

The Harry Potter Movies are just an Adaptaion of the Books they were there first and told the Story just like an Anime is an Adaptation of LN which is a ( Book ) or manga , or VNs >.> you would be right with your argument if Overlord did not have the books and if it was only the Amime itself , but this is not the case, , and thats why Animes or Movies will never cover up (all ) things from the Books , btw you should read the Ovelord ( books ) you get there alot of more information about the whole world , and they are not to expensive either

from my point of view those are the scripts, LN's where never my cup of tea, not a book worm, the fact that I liked "Harry potter", "Lord of the rings" doesnt really entice me to read the books, the only exeption was FSN, but it only enticed me because I wanted a good end for Saber, but still the canon for me is deens FSN

You don't care about the source material? Lol you are in denial, is why. Go waste someone else's time. I just give you straight up facts and you just give straight up bullshit. Nice.
THE WEB NOVEL IS THE DRAFT AND THE LIGHT NOVEL IS THE CANON, CONCLUSIVE STORY....How is that so hard to understand? Why don't you turn off your bullshiter mode for just a second. There is no "This is canon for me" shit. Its either designated as canon by the creator or not, and in this case the LN is 100% canon.

Byran47Mar 17, 2018 7:26 PM

Mar 17, 2018 7:29 PM

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Darklight0303 said:

Tamikus said:

LF2005 said:

Tamikus said:

you are still wrong and at that point you embarrassing yourself further and further with such dumb statements , i think you live i a echochamber and your stubbornes and ignorance is prove enough of that >.> you were proven wrong many many times you will remain wrong and there is nothing you can do about it, and when you talk bullshit you get called out for it >.> its like you are in a contest with yourself to see who could come up with the dumbest analogy

where exactly I'm wrong, the source is the source but the canon is anything that is presented in the anime, liked it or not. this is the second official release of overlord

Darklight0303 said:
One last thing. Here is the full layout of Nazarick

Notice how Sebas is not even MENTIONED as the defenders? Now what more proof do you want that your fanfiction is just that? Fiction?

well, from starters it was two uncanon outcomes of an uncanon situation, I gave a loock at the uncanon and see what I found, well guess thats offial canon if the BD of the anime says so.

"According to the Overlord Blu-ray 1 Special - Emissary of the King: "Even among the Guardians of Nazarick, those three can be considered the top among the warrior classes. Cocytus has the advantage against Albedo, but not against Sebas. Sebas is strong against Cocytus, but not against Albedo. Albedo can probably win against Sebas, but not against Cocytus."

so the three strongest are Albedo, Sebas & Cocytus, locked in a rock, scissors, paper balance where albedo has only a chance at winning against Sebas.

nope you are still wrong and living in a echochamber source is canon and you will not change it no matter how hard you wish that this what you think is true , The author of the Books has the ultimate say in what canon is and not the Anime studio or YOU and you have to deal with it

Not to mention that is only 1 v 1. Here we had VICTIM with its devastating Death effect, Demiurge with his summons and high magic, Supposedly Ainz with the STAFF OF AINZ OAL GOWN NO LESS as well as Cocytus AND Solution.

You deserve a gold fucking medal for the degree of mental gymnastics you are foolishly performing when you have already lost the plot.

You lost this one. Go home. It's over.

Haha don't even bother with this man anymore. Look at what he said "from my point of view those are the scripts, LN's where never my cup of tea, not a book worm"
.......?????
This is the most extreme form of mental gymnastics I've seen in a long while, it's actually quite scary.

Mar 17, 2018 7:55 PM

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Byran47 said: