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Dec 11, 2017 3:24 PM

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holy shit, Shishigami... My god. He needs to be stopped. I'm starting to be desensitized to the horrible attrocities he's being depicted as doing in this anime. But it's still just... WOOOOW.

Inuyashiki really needs to step up! Show some urgency, fly around looking for him. I'm sure he could be doing more than he is right now. Ando is being great though, and I have hopes that Inuyashiki's daughter will have some good leading part in these last 2 episodes.

Something that's bothered me throughout, and certainly in this episode more than ever, is how calm people are being. It's ridiculous! They're just like "whatever, I'll still use my smartphone, Shishigami can't do anything..." even though they should know by now the amount of insane things Shishigami is capable of. There is not enough widespread panic. This probably wasn't the most powerful episode - I know they added the scene on the plane with the foreigner who has a baby to make us care more about the plane crash but that was a bit of a rushed, pointless thing. They could've use the airing time a bit more effectively.

Still, I've got mostly positive thoughts for the anime as a whole. It's been very intense and interesting to watch. It's still a solid 8 so far.
Dec 11, 2017 9:25 PM

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To address people saying "why does hiro have fans", ask yourself this, how do murderers find wives in prison? How do cult leader convince people to kill themselves? How do certain serial killers become immortalized through pop culture?
another case and point that this is not a particularly exaggerated part of the show
(warning pretty nsfw and genuinely disturbing)
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Mari's death foreshadowed? I think so.

With every show there are flaws and there are huge flaws in this show too. However, for what it is, I'm enjoying it. I don't expect much of anything from seasonal Anime, but I'm getting a kick out of this.

Hiro's logic can be seen as stupid, but also believable. Let's not forget that Hiro is a teenager. We've all been at that rebellious age where you think you're the only one that's right.

This show implies what could happen when two different types of people are given the same power. Not everyone in this world is a saint. Some would actually use the power the way Hiro does and other's would use it the way Inuyashiki does. What could've lead Hiro to be what he is?

Hiro never had the ideal family growing up, all he had was a mother that raised him on her own because his father walked out on them and is living a happy life with a different family, while his mother was working her tail off to support him and herself. Therefore, I believe there's that resentment that's been growing in him. Case and point the family he massacred in the beginning of the show.

Once his Mother committed suicide he lost it, but Shion was there for him. She tried to reason him into being a better person, to help others with his power, but what ended up happening? Shion and her Grandma were killed... shortly. He realized there is no point of helping people with his powers.

Do I think what he is doing is right? No.
Do I support what he's doing? No.
But, I see where he's coming from. Plus, he's not meant to be the good guy in this story. You guys all hate him, right? I think that's the role he's playing perfectly.

That's how I see it at least, if the way I'm thinking is naive let me know. I love discussions.
yeah you nailed it, the big issue with the show i think is more alot of the random npcs come off as comical and kind of tension breaking, but id actually argue hiro has been completly consistent the entire series and all of whats happening now makes sense given what we know about hiro, he has a mental disorder and his want to feel human is what drives him. Like when people said it was unrelistic that he suddenly became a good guy cause of his GF people dont seem to understand that he was doing that for selfish reasons. He doesnt feel empathy for people like sociopaths do but sociopaths do still tend to have loved ones they dont want to lose, not for the loved ones well being but for them. He didnt want the scorn of his mom cause shes all he had so he would stop killing but he lost her. Then his GF came into play and the only reason he didnt kill her was she gave gim a selfish warmth of feeling human and accepted again. Hes always been out for only himself the entire series hence why he is genuinly baffled why the GF is so offput by the idea of him eliminating japan but for him.

Alot of people might misinterperte what i am saying as "its ok cause they said hes sociopathic", but what im really trying to say in the tl;dr version is that they have given clear reasons of logic behind hiro's sociopathic tendencies that display the logic in hiro's mind. We see why killing makes him feel alive and why he values his mom/gf over others. Hes illogical to us sane people, but they have clearly and accurately layed out why all this makes sense in hiro's mind.
JizzyHitlerDec 11, 2017 9:33 PM

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Dec 12, 2017 2:25 AM
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I'm speechless...
Oh, and btw, a fan site? wtf is wrong with people.


Ummm remember Kira?

Kira was killing criminals though.

Hiro is just killing everyone. So it's not really fair to draw that comparison lol
Dec 12, 2017 6:15 PM

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I know a lot of stupid girls who fall in love with bad guys and even killers. It's called hybristophilia, you uneducated morons. One of my "friends" from my previous job would defend anyone who she deems handsome even if that person was fucked up. She also liked Yagami Light from Death Note and defended him. I asked her if she would still defend him if he was amn obese, short, beer-bellied, otaku with acne, specs and masturbates to child porn and she didn't answer. Hypocrite.



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Atavistic said:
Great episode, but it's absolutely ludicrous that this psychopathic mass murderer, who has literally declared war on all of Japan, has fan clubs. Like seriously, how many people must he have killed at this point? Close to 500? 1000? He's a monster and I can't wait to see Inuyashiki put him down for good.
to be fair, its not like bathsit crazies havent attracted followings and defenders in real life even today, like when charles manson died and if you followed any of the facebook posts on the news report was flooded with people praising him.

Then even past that there are so many people that idolize shit like the columbine shooters to the point of forums being made for them, the guy who shot up a weiss in june this year was a dude who idolized them posting fanart of them and all this other shit. People are fucking crazy and attract other crazy people.


THIS. Exactly. A lot of murderers, terrorists and psychopaths have fans and people who want to marry them. Me thinks a majority of MAL's viewers are a bunch of ignorant idiots who don't do research and are shocked by this series. Also, people are saying that Hiro has no motivation to kill, NOT ALL murderers have a motivation to kill, they just kill. There isn't supposed to be any logic in anything they do.
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Dec 12, 2017 6:55 PM

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smoledman said:

Ummm remember Kira?


Oh yeah, can't believe i forgot about that but it's still a different situation.
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Dec 12, 2017 7:37 PM

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Kira was killing criminals though.

Hiro is just killing everyone. So it's not really fair to draw that comparison lol


Still the same thing ultimately, both are idols. I bet this show gets banned in China.
Dec 13, 2017 12:25 PM

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Hiro declared war on Japan and wtf??. This psycho has a fan club??

Inuyashiki needs to stop this guy.

Dec 14, 2017 6:00 AM

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Was there any death flag NOT raised for the daughter?
Dec 14, 2017 6:52 AM

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i think Hiro made a mistake, now his daily count could be over 1000
Dec 14, 2017 11:38 PM
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A episode of mass murder

Dec 15, 2017 4:48 AM
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Aeroplanes??? Be careful!!! kekeke
Dec 23, 2017 7:20 AM

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My goodness. He crashed a plain. He is so insane that his love interest is slowly distancing herself from him.
Dec 26, 2017 12:11 PM

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Death flags all over the place! Really great yet so damn horrible sad development! Really looking forwards to see what's next.
Dec 30, 2017 1:16 AM

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Hiro just goes full killer this episode, and honestly if he really ended up wanting to kill all of Japan he could probably do it because their bodies literally show no extent to how much damage they can take without getting extremely fucked up

Also judging from how this episode ended storywise I can already tell the final two episodes are going to feel super rushed! Maybe not, but I'll just have to see
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Jan 4, 2018 8:33 AM

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Old guy is too busy at work to actually try and find the guy lol.

Ofc this god is dropping planes now. What can't he do.
Jan 11, 2018 12:19 AM
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Hiro is honestly the best character in the show and I hope he wins (but if I'm real, I already know he won't).



Jan 17, 2018 12:31 PM

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Maaannnn. It's also because of stupid net users commentary that egg him on as well >.> "Shishi said he'd kill 1000 but nothing's happened yet" "he's probably already been caught by the police" stfu, he can read all of y'alls nonsense Dx

It's too bad Hiro can't understand Shion yet sees his mother's feelings in her smh. He still hasn't changed :(

At least Mari is slowly changing. She even got along with Hanako and wants to buy her treats :3
Jan 21, 2018 6:34 PM

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More commentary on society's dependence on electronics. Inuyashiki's kids saying they might as well be dead if they don't have their cell phones. That's something any person might say in jest on an average day. These kids are in a real situation in which having their phone could kill them...and they still can't part with it. She wasn't using hyperbole...she'd really rather be dead than not have her smart phone. Man, that's heavy.

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Jan 22, 2018 6:53 AM

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Hiro now killing all the citizens. His next move will be mind-blowing.
Jan 24, 2018 2:42 AM
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The normal everyday things that happen. Yknow like a mass murderer now terrorist that makes half the girls wet. Happens all the time.
Hiro continues to be a "villain" that hurts my head. This is ousama game level of retardation. Is gantz this bad? It's like it's made by an edgy teenager that doesn't understand how to write characters or a proper plot.

The only thing this show has going for it is the op and the fact that mappa (unfortunately) made it.

Edit* lol at the people thinking there is depth to this. I wonder what it's like to live in your world.
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Jan 26, 2018 8:45 PM

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Hiro really has to be stopped.









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Jan 27, 2018 12:28 PM

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Hiro: Guess I can't repent of my actions so I might as well keep going.

There's no turning back and Shion is becoming scared of what may happen next. These other girls though; "Oh he may be a killer but he's still hot". What the heck?!

So whose ready to just cut the power so he can't kill from screens? Then again that may not help since he can probably turn it back on. Or hey even worse (is it worse?) he makes a visit.

It's interesting to look at how much tech is depended on and what can and may occur when someone takes advantage of it.

Furthermore the whole "Killing someone through the screen" reminds me of SAO II with Death Gun (different methods, same result). So Hiro is now an enemy to his own country... I guess in a way (an infamous way) that is kind of cool.
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Feb 25, 2018 5:01 PM
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Damn, why do all "background/secondary characters" in Hiroya Oku's works are always so dumb, oblivious to the events going on and have such unbelievable reactions ?

I get that some girls like murderers, and marry them when thy get jailed, but come on, fan clubs for a TERRORIST (or mass murderer, but still) who is currently killing people here and there ? No way, no matter how handsome he may be. Mari who planned to go to Disneyland with her friends right after a mass shooting happened in the streets and another one is planned for the next day ? Classes that are not dismissed while there is such a threat ? People casually chit-chatting after that ?

That's not how people work Oku. I lived in a country where Terrorist attacks happened, and this is juts not how people react to that kind of shit.
Feb 25, 2018 5:07 PM
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Jagh said:
The normal everyday things that happen. Yknow like a mass murderer now terrorist that makes half the girls wet. Happens all the time.
Hiro continues to be a "villain" that hurts my head. This is ousama game level of retardation. Is gantz this bad? It's like it's made by an edgy teenager that doesn't understand how to write characters or a proper plot.

The only thing this show has going for it is the op and the fact that mappa (unfortunately) made it.

Edit* lol at the people thinking there is depth to this. I wonder what it's like to live in your world.


Oh it is, and it's exactly what I was thinking about when I saw this episode. You have the same kind of Dumb, lethargic, cold and oblivious characters in Gantz. They see people getting murdered left and right and react like "Wow, iz thiz sum CG"... Still love Gantz though, but yeah, Oku need to work his characters, mostly the secondary ones. It's fucking annoying. It may be a stylistic decision, like he wants to show us that side of the japanese people, but I find that hard to believe...
Feb 26, 2018 3:23 AM

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As ridiculous and maddening what Hiro is doing is, I find it even more ridiculous how everyone else going about their lives like this is a normal thing.
Feb 27, 2018 9:48 PM

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The central themes: -Technology is bad -babies almost being killed (it happened twice!)
Teenagers fanning over a mass murderer. That's an interesting topic.
Shinigami's hand camera is pretty great!
After the shooting takes place, Inuyshiki's daughter still just wants to go to Tokyo Disney and is not afraid! Ha!
I knew from the moment the new girl boarding the plane was introduced, the plane was going to crash and everyone's dead. :'(
RIP everyone in the city and on the plane
Mar 1, 2018 7:07 AM

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Today on "bullshit Inuyashiki expects me to just go with": a terrorist with seemingly unstoppable power is on the loose, threatens to kill 1,000 people at random tomorrow, and school/work still operates as normal. Most people don't seem that concerned. What?!

At least they didn't go the completely tasteless route and have Hiro hack into that woman's phone, shooting the baby right in the face.
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Mar 3, 2018 6:18 PM

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Now that she said no to it's suggestion, there's nothing left for it to be cautious about.
After a declaration of war, chaos takes over and everyone hides in their house.
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And still, Bill will live on.
He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god.
And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living,
until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet.
Until the sun is long since gone.
Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars
and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open.
Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from.
He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out.
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Atavistic said:
Great episode, but it's absolutely ludicrous that this psychopathic mass murderer, who has literally declared war on all of Japan, has fan clubs. Like seriously, how many people must he have killed at this point? Close to 500? 1000? He's a monster and I can't wait to see Inuyashiki put him down for good.


did you know Hitler still has fans all over the world?

Mar 9, 2018 6:30 AM

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What happens when you take the world's angstiest spoilt brat and give him GTA V's invincibility cheat?
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Mar 11, 2018 5:27 PM

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What happened to this show being justiceporn? It's not even close anymore.
Aug 28, 2018 3:55 AM

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So much killing and RIP planes which wasn't saved by the grandpa
Jan 12, 2019 9:39 PM

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anyone notice that the advertisements on jumbotrons before Hiro hacks them feature Man with a Mission?

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Feb 9, 2019 11:03 PM

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Boii I wanted him to drop a nuke since he said he's going to "destroy" the country. This shooting-through-screen nonsense BS is getting old.

I am giving this episode a..........9/11


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I love the "No Russian" vibe this episode gave







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85 cops were killed.
Damn. Mari so pretty.
lol at Rambo.
Hiro is broadcasting himself.
Destroy the country?
Dat declaration.
Bang.
Another Shinjuki massacre. lol Oku.
Hiro calls the tv station.
Bang.
Ando figures it out.
Dem phones dropping.
Hiro tranfers to the big screen now.
Dadadat! Dadadat!
100 dead.
Today was a test. Tomorrow is the real deal.
lol at Mari making plans to go to Disneyland.
Mari legs.
Shion hasn't used the money Hiro gave her.
Mari is still using her phone.
Is Shion really alive?
Dat engrish.
Dat baby loud AS FUCK for no reason. That's not even a regular cry.
Oh shit! Don't show the baby the phone. Hiro might attack.
OMG! Mari is so pretty.
OH SHIT! THE PLANE!
Hiro reenacting 9/11?

Oku with another Shinjuki massacre.
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Sep 25, 2019 5:28 AM

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Hiro was completely done with everything so he just decided to declare war to all of Japan and showed how all-reaching and terrifying his unexplainable powers are. 99 people in Shinjuku lost their lives in half an hour despite Ando and Inuyashiki's district-wide phone warning...

Going as far as to crash a plane into the city for easy kills after Shion expressed her desperation for him to stop was even more despicable. As unfortunate as it is, he has to die because he's far beyond redemption now.








Oct 15, 2019 3:22 PM

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Wow that was cool
That ending with the plane was something
I wonder what are those glitchy nightmares
Oct 30, 2019 11:58 PM
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I know when a show is shit when I get bored easily with random deaths, even the deaths from episode 2 were much better than this. Also, nobody acts like a normal person in this show. I mean, 100 ppl died but everything seems like a normal day to the rest.

1/5
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Feb 19, 2020 12:04 AM

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Woah!!!!!! Stupid fangirls?! Because he's handsome they don't care if he's a murderer?! Duh!!

No salvation for him. He's the WORST!!!
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Apr 25, 2020 1:24 PM

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Lmfao it gets funnier and funnier every episode, Ando said "don't try to find him he reached his goal he already killed 100 people" YEAH man like lets leave it for tomorrow when he will drop a plane from the sky into a building then act like you are surprised, so fkn awful show, i didn't drop it only cause it has 11 episodes hoping it will get better but sadly it only got worse.
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May 24, 2020 1:25 AM
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I must destroy Japan, so I can live with you in France! You can literally do that now. lol

I have no choice, I must slaughter the police. No you can hand yourself in and then explain you're a Divine war machine that can cure cancer and redeem yourself that way. After all they can't hold you in a cell. Lol

And he downed a freaking plane with his magnetism. This! This is why he doesn't need to shoot through screens. How is that even supposed to work? And why can't Inuyashiki do it to Hiro? I can buy that he's pressurizing air into bullets or whatever... But shooting through a screen is too much. The writing completely nosedived, and they had so much to work with too.
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Lmfao it gets funnier and funnier every episode, Ando said "don't try to find him he reached his goal he already killed 100 people" YEAH man like lets leave it for tomorrow when he will drop a plane from the sky into a building then act like you are surprised, so fkn awful show, i didn't drop it only cause it has 11 episodes hoping it will get better but sadly it only got worse.


Exactly. I like how people are more shocked that Hiro has a fan club. Real life serial killers have groupies too. Some even get married in prison. Did everyone forget how popular the Columbine shooters became afterwards???
May 29, 2020 2:36 PM
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Let's go into hiding in another country but first kill all of Japan because that's a totally smart idea.
Aug 28, 2020 3:56 AM

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No way he killed just 100 people, pretty sure he killed at least 500 LMAO
Jul 20, 2021 4:29 AM

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I thought that baby is going to get shot from that woman's smartphone
Feb 11, 2022 12:25 PM

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Wow, what the heck happened to this show... started amazing then all of sudden got reduced to this...

Grandpa Cyborg is barely even a MC anymore.
Feb 18, 2022 1:06 PM

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Hiro went into a full terrorist mode
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And Hiro is just not going to stop. He is beyond redeemable.
Jun 21, 2022 6:45 AM

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Inuyashiki had multiple chances to confront Hiro before but for whatever reason, he didn't. The last few episodes spent way too much focus on Hiro but I can't sympathize with him. I'd like more episodes like episode 4 but it's too late now.

Sure the people portrayed by this anime are stupid assholes but the real world isn't so different. I remember when a pretty cosplayer tried to kill her ex-boyfriend and the internet tried worshipping her as "IRL yandere waifu". It's not like these types of people had any real motives to murder either. They were straight-up psychopaths.
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woah , he just pulled a 911 on 9th episode of an 11 episode show.
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