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Apr 18, 2017 9:46 PM

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Well the presentation is certainly forcing FEELS. And I've seen enough of emotional manipulation in anime that THIS only made me laugh rather than feel disturbed lmao

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Apr 18, 2017 10:06 PM
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I enjoyed the episode but I'd like it more if it settled on being just one thing thematically. This episode had a bit of happy moments, then some seriousness and then some fan service. It just didn't work for me. I hope the rest of the series isn't like this.
Apr 18, 2017 10:34 PM

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The happy slice of life romcom only lasted for a moment... w-why.
My heart fell when that little girl drop of the cliff and treated it like tripping on the floor. T^T
Apr 18, 2017 10:44 PM

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Hey why has the OP changed? I really liked the one they used last time around...
This was a mildly dark episode, I think its kind of sad how the poor little children are used in war and don't have fear of death, I hope the appointment of Willem as their caretaker somehow changes things.
Apr 18, 2017 10:55 PM

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karlstein12 said:
Hey why has the OP changed? I really liked the one they used last time around...

There was no OP last time.



Mich666 said:
A lot cringe and awful loli fanservice, boring at that. I found nothing interesting about characters and I don't care about them at all. Not to mention whole episode was weirdly paced, it felt disjointed mostly, random scenes without any connection, disjointed by timeskips, bored by the rest.

Loli fanservice. VUT.

The developement with the kiss and massage really felt out of place. Also going to the fight. We barely got to know those girls and now they are already expecting us to care about them deeply in some of the scenes? Nope, it doesn't work this way and there was barely any build-up.

Well that's your own problem for not caring I guess.

I'm even not interested in MC's past he is average as hell. And I can already guess the depths of horribly forced feels where this story is heading. Not interesting, not interesting at all.

Yes he is so average that there are pretty much no MCs like him. Nice try.

Dropped.

See you Next Week.
Apr 18, 2017 11:23 PM

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You know, it feels like for pretty much every "tragic" anime ever there's always someone that accuses it of being emotionally manipulative. At this point I kind of wonder what a sad scene that isn't just emotional manipulation looks like to these people. Not to say that cheap sad scenes don't exist, but where's the bar supposed to be? Should we just have death scenes where it's like

*Carl dies*
Everyone: ok.
*Everyone moves on with their lives*

To avoid being emotionally manipulative? I don't know, I'm just genuinely curious at this point.
Apr 18, 2017 11:23 PM

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Hongu said:
Dropped. This show is obviously not for me. I could rant about it all I want but I won't get anywhere. So yeah, have a good time watching it I guess? Curious to see how this goes from a light novel reader's perspective. Wonder if the adaptation itself is any good.


Dropping it for no reason? Cool.

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I mean just the fact that she has to explain to him the past history of what happened 500 years ago when he obviously lived through it and experienced it.


Yeah he was alive 500 years ago, but he wasn't there when the beast was created.
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Apr 18, 2017 11:54 PM

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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
AntwanMantilla said:
I enjoyed the episode but I'd like it more if it settled on being just one thing thematically. This episode had a bit of happy moments, then some seriousness and then some fan service. It just didn't work for me. I hope the rest of the series isn't like this.


Given the setup of the whole anime, I expect an insane amount of fan service, just not sexually.



There is no fanservice


Look at the "forced feels" occult lmao
Apr 19, 2017 12:01 AM

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boring generic tragic edgy story with bunch of cute girls. Just read Nowayu and Shiratori Utano if you want cute girls suffering done right.
"Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk
"Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained." -Gilgamesh, Fate/stay night
"We are constantly living in a peaceful world that somebody else won for us. Even if it were only a day of peace, I will be grateful for its value." - Minashiro Tsubaki, FAFNER
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Apr 19, 2017 12:02 AM

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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Zefyris said:
It's kind of a "in between" episode. Necessary, but I'd say it would have been difficult to make it very interesting. There's a lot of things that are hinted at, including disturbing/ominous things and "lore" tidbits, for those who are attentive to the conversation's details.
But for those who aren't, this may be an episode where "not that much happens".
Let's see how peoples react to it. ~ Peoples that weren't impressed with the first one may in reverse be more interested by this one.
And let's hope the CR translation actually doesn't mess up on the translation for those hints and the like to be properly understandable for english speakers as well.

Was I the only one remembering the scene with Almita being wounded differently? Like, she had something that remained stuck deeply into her arm, rather than it being a head wound. It's been quite a while since I read the first volume, so not sure it's just bad memory from my part.


Light novel readers showing a, know-it-all attitude, along with overanalyzing certain scenes as actually containing any sort of subtext or subtlety ever since the Re: Tards Apocalypse is really getting annoying.


You know what's really annoying.
Someone who obviously doesn't like something and comes here to tell others they're annoying for liking it and knowing what they're talking about and discussing the source they read. You can save yourself that trouble of these annoying people and drop this series .

AnimeFanboy1234 said:
DragonSlayer_19 said:



There is no fanservice


Look at the "forced feels" occult lmao


Really? The only human, and a male one at that, at a mansion with supernatural girls, in no way, fits the average hormone-raging teenager's fantasy? This anime is basically a harem hentai minus the sex plus overloads of melodrama.



It's not a harem. I read up till chapter 21/25 to know enough lol

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Apr 19, 2017 12:11 AM

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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
DragonSlayer_19 said:



It's not a harem. I read up till chapter 21/25 to know enough lol


I don't care. Hell, the fact that it isn't an actual harem makes it more of a harem, because it makes the male viewer feel all innocent and good about themselves, even though they are clearly self-inserting into the role of a dramatic main male protagonist surrounded by adorable little girls, a troll onee-sama, and a 15 year old fairy.
If you are a straight man and you are telling me you never fantasize about living like that, then you are a liar!



That made no sense. "It's not a harem, so that makes it even more of a harem." LOL.

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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
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It's not a harem. I read up till chapter 21/25 to know enough lol


I don't care. Hell, the fact that it isn't an actual harem makes it more of a harem, because it makes the male viewer feel all innocent and good about themselves, even though they are clearly self-inserting into the role of a dramatic main male protagonist surrounded by adorable little girls, a troll onee-sama, and a 15 year old fairy.
If you are a straight man and you are telling me you never fantasize about living like that, then you are a liar!


Lmao and I'm the irrational one here. It's not a harem so it is a harem . Dude just stop lol. now i have no desire to discuss further. If you don't care about what I say, what's the point. Clearly the one being irrational is you. Why would I fantasize about being a father figure for all these girls and having to deal with a Troll lol
Apr 19, 2017 12:26 AM

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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Lohuydahutt said:
You know, it feels like for pretty much every "tragic" anime ever there's always someone that accuses it of being emotionally manipulative. At this point I kind of wonder what a sad scene that isn't just emotional manipulation looks like to these people. Not to say that cheap sad scenes don't exist, but where's the bar supposed to be? Should we just have death scenes where it's like

*Carl dies*
Everyone: ok.
*Everyone moves on with their lives*

To avoid being emotionally manipulative? I don't know, I'm just genuinely curious at this point.


When people call an anime, "emotionally manipulative" they mean said anime doesn't give any actual reason to care about the emotional stuff, other than the fact that emotional stuff are happening. What sounds cheaper to you? A backstory reveal of a character that you've barely gotten to know, or one you have? Which of the two sounds like McDonalds?


See, it's not like I get emotionally invested in a character a couple of chapters/episodes in either. No, that stuff came later on in the series for me. Regardless is it really a crime for the story to set the tone and warn you of what kind of story it is early on? Because that's how I view those scenes, maybe you don't see it that way, but whatever.
Apr 19, 2017 12:48 AM

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Good episode. That "lewd" scene between Willem & Chtholly lol. This show has the potential to become pretty dark and tragic later on.

Looking forward to more!
Apr 19, 2017 1:00 AM

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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
DragonSlayer_19 said:



It's not a harem. I read up till chapter 21/25 to know enough lol


I don't care. Hell, the fact that it isn't an actual harem makes it more of a harem, because it makes the male viewer feel all innocent and good about themselves, even though they are clearly self-inserting into the role of a dramatic main male protagonist surrounded by adorable little girls, a troll onee-sama, and a 15 year old fairy.
If you are a straight man and you are telling me you never fantasize about living like that, then you are a liar!


I suggest reading up on what a harem actually is before embarrassing yourself further with "its not a harem which makes it more of a harem!".
Apr 19, 2017 2:39 AM

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@john985 That's a spoiler that have nothing to do in that thread, please delete that.

Lohuydahutt said:
You know, it feels like for pretty much every "tragic" anime ever there's always someone that accuses it of being emotionally manipulative. At this point I kind of wonder what a sad scene that isn't just emotional manipulation looks like to these people. Not to say that cheap sad scenes don't exist, but where's the bar supposed to be? Should we just have death scenes where it's like

*Carl dies*
Everyone: ok.
*Everyone moves on with their lives*

To avoid being emotionally manipulative? I don't know, I'm just genuinely curious at this point.

Saw that kind of emotionless death happen (rather than peoples not caring, them caring wasn'"t the focus of the story so they "cared about it off screen") in anime. Peoples then complained that the lack of reaction was unrealistic and disappointing as they wanted more emotion felt from them.


AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Zefyris said:

This scene isn't supposed to be fanservice. but to be taken like a physiotherapist treating a patient on a hospital bed. He effectively got rid of the fever tormenting her, as well as prevented things to go worse if they stayed that way. What this scene is to be understood at, is that he answered her romantic request with a very professional attitude instead, taking care of her not as a lover but as one of the children he's responsible of. Even thought that professional attitude requested "skinship" that could easily be interpreted in a romantic/lewd way, he didn't hesitate and treated her just the same.She wasn't listening so he kissed her on the forehead, but that's about it for the difference with a full professional attitude. From starters, he asked her to show him her back before for this very reason, he wanted to check bnecause her fever was suspicious.
It would be misinterpreting that scene than to take it as a randomly placed fanservice scene. From the whole atmosphere of the scene, do you think the author would do that.


No, it's that they don't give any value to their lives. Them being shy in character has nothing to do with it.


I dunno about you, but the girls' lewd sounds, red face, and the way the camera panned to her legs is just another way of saying, "Look, we wanna give you dat service, but we don't wanna make it look like we are giving u dat service".

Or you know, it could look like they screwed up at making viewer understand the purpose of that scene. Like I pointed out elsewhere, japanese voice acting can someone completely backfire. In some video game's japanese version, the panting when running of some female characters sounds like she's having sex, for example. Really embarrassing to play those characters, especially since it's not that type of game at all. It's just a failure on that point.

Chtholly isn't supposed to sounds like she's having an orgasm, but many peoples interpreted it that way here.
What's important before getting "offended" is the intention behind the scene. If you look and think, there's absolutely no way that they would put such fan service scene at that moment and place, it doesn't make sense with the global direction and flow of the story.


AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Zefyris said:
It's kind of a "in between" episode. Necessary, but I'd say it would have been difficult to make it very interesting. There's a lot of things that are hinted at, including disturbing/ominous things and "lore" tidbits, for those who are attentive to the conversation's details.
But for those who aren't, this may be an episode where "not that much happens".
Let's see how peoples react to it. ~ Peoples that weren't impressed with the first one may in reverse be more interested by this one.
And let's hope the CR translation actually doesn't mess up on the translation for those hints and the like to be properly understandable for english speakers as well.

Was I the only one remembering the scene with Almita being wounded differently? Like, she had something that remained stuck deeply into her arm, rather than it being a head wound. It's been quite a while since I read the first volume, so not sure it's just bad memory from my part.


Light novel readers showing a, know-it-all attitude, along with overanalyzing certain scenes as actually containing any sort of subtext or subtlety ever since the Re: Tards Apocalypse is really getting annoying.


Feel free to get annoyed all you want for no logical reason, interpreting wrongly what I -or anyone else for that matters- wrote, but do it alone in your corner. I'm sure that's a nice feeling, but you don't need to share it with me, I'm not really interested.
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Apr 19, 2017 3:20 AM

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Good ep so far, Can't wait for more.
Love the opening, it's really catchy.
Apr 19, 2017 3:38 AM

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ernst said:
boring generic tragic edgy story with bunch of cute girls. Just read Nowayu and Shiratori Utano if you want cute girls suffering done right.

The story hasn't even done any "cute girl suffering" right now. I'm curious to hear how you judged something that has yet to happen (if it happens at all, that is).
If anything, it's the two caretakers who are suffering right now, because they actually care about the life of the children. Meanwhile, the children don't give a damn, so most of them aren't going to suffer from the announced death of one of their pair. So more of an "adult suffering", but even that hasn't really been shown so we can't say this title have really shown its cards on that point either.

AnimeFanboy1234 said:
DragonSlayer_19 said:



It's not a harem. I read up till chapter 21/25 to know enough lol


I don't care. Hell, the fact that it isn't an actual harem makes it more of a harem, because it makes the male viewer feel all innocent and good about themselves, even though they are clearly self-inserting into the role of a dramatic main male protagonist surrounded by adorable little girls, a troll onee-sama, and a 15 year old fairy.
If you are a straight man and you are telling me you never fantasize about living like that, then you are a liar!

I am straight and I don't fantasize about having the responsibility of taking care of children or living under the same roof as someone who look at me like I'm a delicious dinner, either. I obviously don't fantasize about little kids, too.
It's your sexual orientation, don't assume everyone fantasize about living together with little girls.
Apr 19, 2017 4:04 AM

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Damn, the massage scene is pretty controversial it seems.

It's only as lewd as the viewer wants it to be, the only fanservice-esque scene is Chthollys full-body shot after Willem removes the blanket. I think their biggest misstep in that whole scene would be using the "scream and camera pans upwards to the sky"-transition that is being used by every ecchi ever, which probably contributes to the scene being interpreted this way. (Of course I'm not counting the "There's skin shown so it's fanservice!"-faction.)

Also the scene wasn't exactly purely romantic either, from Chtholly's perspective yes, from Willems perspective no. He just gave the tantrum-throwing kid what she wanted (the forehead kiss) so that she quiets down and he can begin to treat her. It was a mood-change but nothing as big as super-romantic scene turns into fanservice from one second to the other.

I think people just aren't used to see situations like that from different perspectives, I'm sure a lot of people will see the whole thing different if they rewatch it and just pay attention to how Willem behaves and try to see it through his eyes.

Well, these are just my 2 cents (I'm also a LN reader, it seems that that's important for some reason).

(I had no idea Aisea had thighs like that, thanks for enlightening me, Satelight!)
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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Coxerspaniel said:
Damn, the massage scene is pretty controversial it seems.

It's only as lewd as the viewer wants it to be, the only fanservice-esque scene is Chthollys full-body shot after Willem removes the blanket. I think their biggest misstep in that whole scene would be using the "scream and camera pans upwards to the sky"-transition that is being used by every ecchi ever, which probably contributes to the scene being interpreted this way. (Of course I'm not counting the "There's skin shown so it's fanservice!"-faction.)

Also the scene wasn't exactly purely romantic either, from Chtholly's perspective yes, from Willems perspective no. He just gave the tantrum-throwing kid what she wanted (the forehead kiss) so that she quiets down and he can begin to treat her. It was a mood-change but nothing as big as super-romantic scene turns into fanservice from one second to the other.

I think people just aren't used to see situations like that from different perspectives, I'm sure a lot of people will see the whole thing different if they rewatch it and just pay attention to how Willem behaves and try to see it through his eyes.

Well, these are just my 2 cents (I'm also a LN reader, it seems that that's important for some reason).

(I had no idea Aisea had thighs like that, thanks for enlightening me, Satelight!)


I get what you mean by perspecives, but I don't care: it was fanserivcey as hell. I think people forget that actions within an anime iare decided by someone else, not the characters within it. I am not joking.


and you forgot that to an extent, the viewer's perspective also affect whether the scene will be viewed as fanservice or not. Probably you're the one who makes the scene looks like 'fanservicey as hell" in the first place? Maybe
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Zefyris said:
~ Peoples that weren't impressed with the first one may in reverse be more interested by this one.


Yea that is me. Now I can see the potential of show. Thanks for the animu gods this not a another harem show.

Do we havesomethinh different when it comes to adaptation?

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Apr 19, 2017 5:49 AM

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damn... that scene when the girls play with the ball... damn...
even worst that the other girl ask her to get the after she falls off the cliff...
can't wait for next epsiode...
Apr 19, 2017 6:25 AM

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The OP is kinda disappointing? I expected something more epic... or bittersweet. But it sounds pretty average, like your typical fantasy show OP. Maybe I am expecting too much.

"Oishi -thumbs up-" + shaking twintails = cute.


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I'm enjoying this. Don't normally watch a lot of anime but I think this is perfect. The music, the atmosphere, the dialogue. The massage was a bit more... involved than I imagined but it worked out without detracting from the episode. Looking forward to more.

Also LN reader since mid Vol 2 since people care about that.
Apr 19, 2017 7:55 AM
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nice ep and dark ... maybe i should binge lol abit scare if loli die... paaaaaaaaaaak!
Apr 19, 2017 8:38 AM

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Hahaha. She really wanted to be kissed >.< xD
Apr 19, 2017 9:02 AM

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The drama of the story, has already begun to manifest itself, not bad this narrative choice. It was all planned for me, but I would say that everything is done very well, so much so that even I was involved, although it is not innovative the sequence in which events occur, as this narrative is to be found in many other similar anime. Drawings and animations, as good quality. The characters are lovable and friendly right from the start. Catchy soundtrack. Also I like the protagonist, I felt a pang, when the little girl was hurt. What a fright!
Apr 19, 2017 9:20 AM
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I like the balance between comic relief and the more darker themes. very interesting. looking forward to the next episode
Apr 19, 2017 10:38 AM

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Thank God I didn't miss this series. It has a cool setup to begin with.

Damn those girls. I don't want to have any kind of bond with them, so when they die, I could easily move forward, but it seems impossible. Good luck, Willem, before you become insane and kill yourself because of those girls. Looking forward for the next episode!
Apr 19, 2017 10:41 AM

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what those girls are. ..😭
Apr 19, 2017 11:39 AM
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Ha-ha, one user turned this thread in complete mess.
Ah, i love this episode. And massage scene. And thighs. And everything else.
Apr 19, 2017 1:00 PM

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Not caring about a friend falling and hurting herself that bad, is a whole new level of apathy towards death. I wonder if they were specifically created by the army or if they were normal kids, presumably without partents, that got brought in for the purpose of becoming expendable lives.
Apr 19, 2017 1:31 PM

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Damn, I'm hooked.
Apr 19, 2017 2:27 PM

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More dark stuff surfaces. The MC sure seems knowledgeable and is hiding some critical info of actually what happened 500 yr ago.

Btw, is magic part of world, or how else floating islands are possible? They have Boeing aircraft so atleast not much alien tech stuff, maybe.
Apr 19, 2017 2:56 PM

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honestly came because the description of this anime seemed interesting, stayed because of the beginning in episode one with the whole apocalyptic looking thing and the cute mc that looks like the not evil version of yashiro-sensei from erased

i really like it so far, im an anime-only viewer but the first two episodes have been interesting. this one was a bit slow compared to the first one, but this was more of a learning episode than anything else. i was surprised when the little girl fell off the cliff, i was even more surprised at how fine she was (but, now we know why).

i totally had to turn the volume down on the massage scene though xD
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I am very very glad I gave this a chance, since I didn't even know it existed until the first episode aired.

This is quickly becoming my most anticipated show to watch aside from Hero Academia.
Apr 19, 2017 3:13 PM

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I dunno but I really like this so far, I hope this doesn't crash.
Apr 19, 2017 3:38 PM

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THEY AIN'T SEEN NO MANS BEFORE. OF COURSE THEY SCARED. Opening is good. Sounds like they got actual children to voice act the side children and I find that good. And what better way to get to children than giving them freshly made sweets, though it's unfortunate they don't care about THEIR OWN LIVES. Its only a matter of time until DEPRESSION hits like Truck-kun and my heart is ripped out. But until then, I will try to find whatever enjoyment I can out of these cute girls (in a non inappropriate way, I ain't no pedo).
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On the subject of this being a harem. We only have TWO characters who you could count as love interests, Kutori and Naigrat. The other two older faeries clearly don't have any romantic inclinations.

In terms of characterisation, the mass of young faeries are, I believe, meant to be treated as a singular entity. We aren't meant to feel anything for them on an individual, one-to-one, basis. It's what we feel for them as a whole.

And please stop trashing this thread people, it really leaves a bad taste after watching a good anime.
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This is easily one of the best shows of the season. I like how the MC is not a perv, and is instead an all-around great dude. Seems like it's going to be an extremely depressing story, though. I'm trying to dodge spoilers as best I can, but they seem to be everywhere.
Apr 19, 2017 6:38 PM

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I wonder how this series discussion managed to draw the saltiest people... They should go to Sakurada or Rokudenashi and leave this one alone.
Apr 19, 2017 6:51 PM

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Solid episode, nice emotional setup for the inevitable
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It's very hard to watch this show!
be ready for future tragic feels!
5/5.


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ADMIN...CAN WE DELETE ANY POST COUNTERACTING AnimeFanboy1234 posts...this is getting quite out of hand...


Apr 20, 2017 1:37 AM

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I'm liking this anime so far, these first two episodes have been surprisingly good. I didn't know what to expect from this anime and I still don't, but it's certainly got me intrigued for what's to come. 7/10 The characters are nice and interesting, and some of the chemistry has been good. I'm already starting to find Ithea somewhat annoying though. I skipped the OP so I can't comment there.
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Apr 20, 2017 2:28 AM
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is this another black bullet dead loli girl potential anime ?

Apr 20, 2017 3:42 AM

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Tfw Sanae from Clannad turns into a gluttonous troll maid.
Yet these hands will never hold anything.
Thus I pray, Unlimited Waifu Works!

Apr 20, 2017 4:03 AM
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I like it so far ... this is becoming interesting and I'm wondering if the MC was a wielder of one of those swords ...

That medical massage scene at the end was interesting ... at the beginning I was like : "Wait, what are you doing ... WAIT SHE'S 15 STOP THIS DUDE"

Then it was only to remove the poison, but at the same time I felt guilty watching this and couldn't imagine if someone walked on me watching this ...

I like this hue hue hue
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Impressive episode, I'm really getting to this series. I'm liking the pace since its from an LN, though haven't read it, but it seems to me that its an exposition-filled so the feeling of slow paced introducing the setting and lore was just. Moreover, a sudden change of atmosphere from a SoL to a dark aspect of the story did so damn surprised me. Innocent and adorable loli's shouldering the fate of their world, so damn cruel.

Pretty cool OP, the beat was my kind of liking. From the insights of the OP, have seen more reason for me to look forward to next episodes.
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» [SPOILERS] Question about ending

IdleSolution - Dec 21, 2017

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Apr 13, 1:44 PM

Poll: » Shuumatsu Nani Shitemasu ka? Isogashii desu ka? Sukutte Moratte Ii desu ka? Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Stark700 - Apr 11, 2017

267 by 2ndKnight »»
Jun 18, 2024 1:48 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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