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| Well compared to season 1, this season didnt live up the hype, I had fun with season 1, season 2 was just... majority of BS. Cant say worst but its definitely there, and I thought GS Destiny was the worst sequel, this takes the cake haha. |
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| I'm surprised it ended well for almost everyone who survived, Iok is gone thank god, but killing off all of the main protagonists probably wasn't the best decision though. Great ending although Mika's child looking more like Atra is meh. 8.5/10 |
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Fabienne said: Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. I like this show because it's not beating you over the head with the morality of what's going on. The show isn't excusing Rustal for all of the shady shit he's done - he's pragmatic with his power and politics, and will ultimately go with the flow. McGillis, ironically, achieved the goal of his coup in death by exposing the corrupt hereditary-based rule of Gjallarhorn. I do think Julieta is a decent person, though. This show deals in shades of grey, and stuck to having a very grey ending. There's good and bad on both sides in almost equal measure. The only truly evil prick was Gordon Nobliss, and he got his deserts in the end. That being said, yes, Rustal himself is not what I would consider a Good Guy. He's a typical powerful politician. |
| people are comparin this to game of thrones, a stupid series that nobody will watch if not for cheap nude and sex scene lol |
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Dangerr said: thank you for saying what i wanted to but have to wait till i get home from work to do so.Fabienne said: Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. I like this show because it's not beating you over the head with the morality of what's going on. The show isn't excusing Rustal for all of the shady shit he's done - he's pragmatic with his power and politics, and will ultimately go with the flow. McGillis, ironically, achieved the goal of his coup in death by exposing the corrupt hereditary-based rule of Gjallarhorn. I do think Julieta is a decent person, though. This show deals in shades of grey, and stuck to having a very grey ending. There's good and bad on both sides in almost equal measure. The only truly evil prick was Gordon Nobliss, and he got his deserts in the end. That being said, yes, Rustal himself is not what I would consider a Good Guy. He's a typical powerful politician. I just want to add that mcgillis is also the whole reason rustal even did most the messed up stuff he did. Mcgillis forced the hand of him to get to this point. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
FackuIkari said: Iok is dead, the final fight was awesome, Iok is dead, Rustal wasn't so much a bad guy after all, Iok is dead and Mika's son is cute as fuck, I say it's a wrap up, I like it. IOK IS FUCKING DEAD! YES! FUCK YES! Rustal was not a BAD GUY??? he used restriced weapon all time and won fight like that , HE killed too many good guy WITH IT. |
| the final episode was absolute DOGSHIT! this is not what i wanted and not what i watched this for. this is the most unsatifying bullshit ending i saw in a long time. 5/10 for this garbage and yes im mad! |
| Damn, that ending was actually decent. Doesn't excuse the ass-pulls, bulll**** and brainfarts of the final few episodes, but it was good with what we had. About Rustal Ellion, he is no more white than Tekkadan and McGillis. He fought for his ideals, and used any means to achieve them. Standard practice. At least he did a decent job with the politics. Kudelia feels as under-utlised as ever, but the plot shifted away from her so... Honestly, I wouldn't know how to use her better either. I feel like for s2, since s1 set the bar up so high, that we were just disappointed. S2 wasn't that bad at all. There were many downs, sure, but damn were there a few ups as well (the mobile armour hype comes to mind). I feel like the series could have easily gone on for much longer, but the writers needed to end it but didn't know how to. As a side, I don't mind the Gaelio x Julietta ship at all. I rather liked Gaelio tbh. And damn Atra matured. |
NicromaticApr 2, 2017 7:47 AM
Hyuse said: Also anyone else feel like Gundam Bael was one of the biggest letdown even after being introduced as the Gundam Agnika piloted? I had huge expectations from season 2 and it feels like I was shot down from so many expectations. Also, I'm glad Iok died. me too I expect bael have special gimmick beside his wing-backpack but it turn out he just another weak Gundam that only bear "Agnika" name. Well that what we get from series that have most realistic mobile suit since MS 08TH Team era |
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| I'm not fine how last episode gone, Had not been so much disappointed with anime ending like this for years, Rustal got away with ALL Dirty things he had done including killing enemies with Restricted weapons with IOK helping him from all sides, and he was WORKING with him even after those years, More Kudelia kissing his ass withoit any regret only talks bla bla bla we must live on, SHE used them and did not gave a damn about their death, That scene where that Shittbag julieta says we killed devil REALLY??? 0 respect and she sasy that they were not a devil after those years, I really could had taken fat that most of main cast got killed in a EPIC battle with rustall killed by Mcgillis at least before he got killed , That nobliss by mafioso hand and mikazuki in EPIC BATTLE not by SPEARS, REALLY disappointed. 4/10 |
wex89Apr 2, 2017 8:06 AM
J4sm1n4 said: IS IT JUST ME OR YAMAGI BEGAN TO DATE THAT BLACK SKELETON CALLED CHAD?? I thought the same thing but I wonder if it's true. :p Well, since Yamagi is obviously gay, I do think it's possible but again who knows. Yamagi looks cool with long hair, though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I liked the ending. I'm glad it didn't disappoint like I expected it would. Kudelia looks mature and it is nice that former Tekkadan members are working with her now. I honestly didn't expect Rustal to live but I don't really hate how things turned out. Iok finally got his just deserts. The way Mikazuki and Akihiro died saddened me. Good riddance, Nobliss Gordon. I hope Ride doesn't turn bad eventually. I know that he's taking revenge for his friends but I hope he doesn't get consumed by revenge. Nadi and Merribit make me happy. I'm glad they got their happy ending and they even started a family. It's funny how most of us thought Merribit would be Orga's love interest. Well, I'm glad it turned out the way it did as it is more refreshing and something totally unexpected. :p Never cared for Julieta but I don't think she's bad. She didn't leave an impression on me. Her and Gaelio getting together isn't surprising but I don't really care for this ship. So Atra got pregnant, huh? Well, even if it was just that one time, it's enough to impregnate her. Akatsuki looks like Mikazuki but he got his mother's hair. 8/10. |
HatsumiShinoguApr 2, 2017 8:39 AM
Kvasir369 said: Julieta, quite frankly, should have died when she blocked Shino’s shot and got impaled on the end of the mace. But she survived and basically got that last victory handed to her and is now in a position to run Gjallarhorn. Since she had no noble-standing and is a woman, this could be seen as progressive movement on their part. 1stly Gaelio never felt regret in killing McGillis at all, plus he knew what McGIllis was trying to achieve when he tried to stop him because McGillis's ideal is wrong. What he meant at the end on the wheelchair, If Gaelio had understood McGillis a little earlier he might have stop him much earlier. 2ndly Antagonist =/= villian, Antagonist is not necessary evil. Well actually there is no need for Julietta to die, as she has done nothing wrong in her part. Plus she never use dirty tactics against opponent. To point out the scene where she "beat" Mika the devil was just part of propaganda, where in result of letting her move to top. So she being no noble standing or a female literally has nothing to do with her the chance of running Gjallarhorn. Beginning she simply just doesn't understand the "existance" of Mikazuki and what he was fighting for, of course in the end she understand Tekkadan a bit. In a way she might be fit to run Gjallarhorn. |
| Welll....atra is hot anyway. |
wex89 said: FackuIkari said: Iok is dead, the final fight was awesome, Iok is dead, Rustal wasn't so much a bad guy after all, Iok is dead and Mika's son is cute as fuck, I say it's a wrap up, I like it. IOK IS FUCKING DEAD! YES! FUCK YES! Rustal was not a BAD GUY??? he used restriced weapon all time and won fight like that , HE killed too many good guy WITH IT. He made the world a better place in the end, that's not what bad guys do |
| As expected, the show's ending split the community into "People who want to see bad guys pay!" and people who appreciate moral ambiguities. Tokoya said: EDIT: Forgot to give props to the only character that didn't go full retard....Shoutout to my boy Ride....Oh how I wish that you assassinated Rustal and Julietta too He wasn't trying to kill Rustal either, just Nobliss, who was a dirty traitor. And this is Okada: she cares shit about making viewers happy. She just does what she likes. ArcanaTrace said: You clearly didnt read what I said about Kudelia at my original comment. And yes Mcgillis was a scheming bastard that killed his best friend but he did it to ultimately end the corruption. Yet Rustal basically just did it because he opposed to that ideal. I feel so sorry for Macky. Literally nobody listens to what he said... Macky believed in "Might Makes Right" and "Power to the Strong" ideals. We have a name for that: Fascism. And conveniently enough, fascists too opposed corruption. But alas, opposing bad guys does not make you a good guy. Also, NOTHING will excuse what he did to Carta and Galileo. He could have persuaded them to join his side, but didn't because, as he confirmed, they threatened to soften him up and make him care about humans as individuals. As for Rustal, this ending proves that he is NOT like the rest of Gjalarhorn. Gjalarhorn became corrupted due to Nepotism and treating the rest of the world as lackeys who have no say in anything. Rustal, on other hand, ended the noble families of Gjalarhorn, instituted a democratic system so that all these Economic Blocks now can have power to influence Gjalarhorn, and pushed reforms against slavery. If he was like the rest of the Gjalarhorn, the nobles would still rule over the world, Gjalarhorn would just murder anyone who threatens status quo, and human debris would still be legal. So clearly, he did NOT like the current Gjalarhorn either and ended it the moment he had the power to. Rustal is bad because of his dirty and ruthless methods, as well as for being an enemy of the Protagonists. But in general, he is like Lelouch from Code Geass: good goals, but the methods leave a lot to be desired. -Abyss_Walker- said: Is it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. I don't think he gives shit about it. What he gives shit about is Gjalarhorn up-keeping peace and order. And they did not do a good job on that front in the entire series. So basically, he did not fix the world out of kindness of his heart, but because it works better this way. And he was an extremely smart and practical man. wex89 said: Rustal was not a BAD GUY??? he used restriced weapon all time and won fight like that , HE killed too many good guy WITH IT. As did Tekkadan. The "whatever-it-is-called" system and Barbatos are restricted weapons and were used all the time. Doesn't make Tekkadan evil though. But at least he did it secretly. As I remember, Fareed wanted to legalize illegal weaponry so that they would be used all the time. |
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| 5/10 Mediocre, nuff said |
| Season 1 was a solid 9.5 / 10 Season 2 gets an 8 / 10.  |
wex89 said: I'm not fine how last episode gone, Had not been so much disappointed with anime ending like this for years, Rustal got away with ALL Dirty things he had done including killing enemies with Restricted weapons with IOK helping him from all sides, and he was WORKING with him even after those years, More Kudelia kissing his ass withoit any regret only talks bla bla bla we must live on, SHE used them and did not gave a damn about their death, That scene where that Shittbag julieta says we killed devil REALLY??? 0 respect and she sasy that they were not a devil after those years, I really could had taken fat that most of main cast got killed in a EPIC battle with rustall killed by Mcgillis at least before he got killed , That nobliss by mafioso hand and mikazuki in EPIC BATTLE not by SPEARS, REALLY disappointed. 4/10 Your view is kinda extreme my fellow member. Firstly you must know that Antagonist =/= villian, means antagonist is not necessary evil. True that Rustal has did a fair share of bad stuffs, that was just his own way of dealing the problem. A few episodes back he admitted that he is "evil", which in our real world view we called "standard". About the case of Iok, mostly his actions were independent, basically not by the order of Rustal. Iok definately must die. From the very start Rustal "evil" actions was all because of McGillis's ideal. If McGillis never start any shit, Rustal would not have do anything. He opposed to McGillis way of thought and consider McGillis in a way disturb the "order" itself. An eye for an eye, the way to deal with McGillis and Tekkadan together, Illegal weapon is part of it. Without it, McGillis would have won. Again to emphasize, whether is in political/military/society, Rustal's way is standard. He thinks his way is better at keeping order. Not sure why you even hate Julietta, eventhou she has not done anything wrong and has not use dirty tactics against her opponent. Julietta being annouced as the devil(Mika) killer is all part of propaganda of bringing peace and reform to Gjallarhorn/world. Just so you know to the world and the soldiers on the spot, Tekkadan was evil and bad. Julietta just take credit of that fact, she is by no way evil. Importantly Julietta simply just doesnt understand the "existance" of Tekkadan and what Mika is fighting for. Of course in the end she understand a bit about them. Rustal in the end did reform Gjallarhorn to more democratic and bring peace to earth/Mars in a way. Basically he has his own ideal and way of doing things, at the cost of many lives. Thats why he admitted he is evil. So Rustal is just an antagonist not villian. No offence to you, personally I think your way of thought is still fresh and innocent. If you have experienced the real world society more, you would have see things much better and Rustal's ideal/personality is "standard" in the real world. Basically you may have idolize Tekkadan, and everything who against it is "evil", very extreme. |
valvravetruthApr 2, 2017 8:39 AM
| That was pretty much what I expected, (almost) everyone dies and Kudelia brings the revolution to Mars. The ending would have been more effective if the characters writing for Tekkadan hadn't lacked all season. I enjoyed it for what it was, but I don't think I would say the writing was particularly good, both in S1 and 2. HatsumiShinogu said: J4sm1n4 said: IS IT JUST ME OR YAMAGI BEGAN TO DATE THAT BLACK SKELETON CALLED CHAD?? I thought the same thing but I wonder if it's true. :p Well, since Yamagi is obviously gay, I do think it's possible but again who knows. Yamagi looks cool with long hair, though. lol I think that scene was implying they didn't care about the baby as much they cared about having a get-together with alcohol. :p |
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| FUCK YES! Akihiro thank you. Seeing him crush that trash Iok like that was the most satisfying thing to see in the series. Glad at least the GaelioxJuliet ship happened. |
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| I know it ended, I would like a sequel with Mikazuki son as MC. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| That all could have been told and also solved in a less violent way, but unfortunately it's a Gundam show, that of course wants to show battles and heroism till the end. But in the cruel universe of IBO, things like heroism don't pay off. Unfortunately Tekkadan was not really smart all the time, but the viewer still was rooting for these underdog kids with their simple minded plans and ideals. It's truly sad that they searched their luck as paramilitary organisation and everything worked against them all the time. I honestly never understood why Gjallarhorn was so obsessed with shutting up Kudelia in the first season, her views weren't so extreme nor did she call for the impossible :D there is a gap between the execution of the story so far and the solution at the end. I'm happy for everyone who survived, but actually every character who passed away in this season makes this just too sad to accept. And now Rustal as new Gjallarhorn leader suddenly supports Kudelia!? Well, yeah this show had nice aspects in the second half at least, but less killing and fights instead of maybe a little diplomacy |
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| I had sooo many complaints with the last few episodes. But this perfect final made up for it. IOK FINALLY DIED This day will be remembered in the future as JUSTICE DAY kidding aside. Great episode. The feelings I had and lost halfway through the season where back. Great Gundam! My favorite so far and only second to 00. I actually hoped this would make a 180° turn - Kudelia shaking hands with rustal - and then she stabs him. Declaring the Mars - Earth war. Because fuck Gjallarhorn. Thus making a third season set in the future possible. PS: Still liked the first season much more. What was the point of the story? Fuck your dreams and hope they will come true after you die? I miss McGillis, he was a true friend of tekkadan. |
Comander-07Apr 2, 2017 9:27 AM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| And thus it ends. I give this whole series a 7, which is my usual score. Despite some of the gripes I have and others have expressed about the show or season that I can understand (even if there are some that I don't feel the same way, like hating Rustal and Julietta, which I never did tbh), I've enjoyed it overall. There are some surprises here that I didn't see coming that I just want to express real quick. I'm surprised that Iok finally died (thank you Akihiro). And here I thought he was immortal. Lol for once his stupidity overwhelmed his good luck in survival. Was also expecting Nobliss to not die, but he gets revenged-assassinated by Ride. Another surprising twist. I was expecting literally every other Tekkadan member on the battlefield to die, but they didn't. That was also surprising. Only Mikazuki and Akihiro have died (maybe that little boy that I quickly forgot the name of and forgot about in general died too. idk). I totally knew Mikazuki was gonna die, but I didn't expect Julietta to survive and didn't die with either Mikazuki or Iok. And where was Gaelio during what was happening down there? lol I was surprised to not see him helping them out, but whatever. I think it's nice to see many of the characters grown up, especially Atra. Julietta has gotten really tall, btw. lol |
AmyTwoApr 2, 2017 9:52 AM
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Daniel_Naumov said: every really morally wrong characters died, theres a reason rustal survives where as nobliss gets gunned down like a pig.starkipraggy said: On top of that, the antagonists got more screentime than the protagonists, which really says something, and to really rub salt in the wound, the screentime did nothing to make the antagonists more sympathetic. Wasted potential. There is Rustal who only did good for the whole universe after finishing the unpleasant business, without any actual gain for himself. There is Juliett who, apart from forming a pair with Gaelio, acknowledged that Tekkadan was not evil, buy tragically misguided and thrown into an endless survival on the battlefield. Anyone still alive by the time the Akatsuki kicks in, IS NOT EVIL. Not by common sense and human decency standards. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| AHHHHH I'm so triggered right now WTF kind of ending is this. What's with the happy ending for Rustal and that bitch subordinate of his? Why did they not suffer or pay any sacrifices for their Goals like everyone else? Galielo lost his sister last season and his best friend MCGillis. Kudelia, Atra and the Tekadan also lost loved ones but these two were the only ones who got a totally perfect happy ending. Iok doesn't count because they never gave a shit about him, the unnamed soldiers who died under their command also don't count. I'm hoping Ride continues his path of revenge and puts a bullet in their head someday. He's the only one I respect in Tekedan now, fuck everyone else who chose not to seek revenge for their comrades. I hope he gets his own sequel with Mika's kid. |
Augustus15Apr 2, 2017 9:38 AM
| IdIOK died! Kisa GOOD JOB Akihiro! you surpass IdIok cockroach survavility ! |
| bruh |
| Iok's death was so satisfying. That bastard is finally dead. The action was intense. Mika just wouldn't back down. He died an honorable death. After everything that happened, Tekkadan moved forward. Kudelia and Rustal signed a treaty to disband Human Debris. Atra's son looks a lot like Mika. She looks nice with long hair. This was a very good finale. I'm going to miss this show. |
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| I just remembered, but what happened to those two of Hush's friends, Zack and whatever the other big guy's name is? I didn't notice them again after the battle. |
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AmyTwo said: I just remembered, but what happened to those two of Hush's friends, Zack and whatever the other big guy's name is? I didn't notice them again after the battle. They are alive and are now working in an office many years later. It's included in the scenes after Ride shot Nobliss' shit. |
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FalloutShounen3 said: AmyTwo said: I just remembered, but what happened to those two of Hush's friends, Zack and whatever the other big guy's name is? I didn't notice them again after the battle. They are alive and are now working in an office many years later. It's included in the scenes after Ride shot Nobliss' shit. Oh, I see them now. Thank you. lol I must've looked away on accident at that moment since I didn't notice that until now. |
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AmyTwo said: I just remembered, but what happened to those two of Hush's friends, Zack and whatever the other big guy's name is? I didn't notice them again after the battle. They were shown in the ending montage, looks like they were working in an office together. Probably thanks to Zack's dad. |
Jack said: AmyTwo said: I just remembered, but what happened to those two of Hush's friends, Zack and whatever the other big guy's name is? I didn't notice them again after the battle. They were shown in the ending montage, looks like they were working in an office together. Probably thanks to Zack's dad. Yeah, I've noticed them now after @FalloutShounen3 replied to me. Thank you though. :) |
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| depressing ending, all of the favorite characters RIP and to top it off my loli atra got all old! |
Wow. I totally forgot about her. Where indeed did she wind up? We don't even hear her being mentioned again by Gaelio. xD |
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| Ugh the final arc of this season really left a bitter taste in my mouth. Shino death wasn't the worst but BS nonetheless. I feel they rushed... I appreciate all the action scenes and moral + different POV but the execution leaves much to be desired. I was in for this show for the hot-bloodiness but that ending trash my expectation. 9/10 for the overall show but dropped to due to final arc----->7/10 |
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