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Jan 13, 2017 8:34 AM
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I've always dreamt of seeing this manga adaptated.

I feel for both of them. It's on of the saddest stories ever. Probably my fav this season.
Jan 13, 2017 8:54 AM

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>MCs almost banging in the first episode
>In a non hentai anime

Impossible
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Jan 13, 2017 9:25 AM

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that's seinen? looks more like shoujo - no it doesn't look like shoujo. this is shoujo.

anyway romance from a female perpective? dropped


Jan 13, 2017 9:56 AM

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That was actually better than I expected. I went in with really low expectations so let's see how things progress from here.
Jan 13, 2017 10:26 AM

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So great... looks like it will be a hit. I'm kinda speechless...
Jan 13, 2017 10:33 AM
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Man, they should have added some fanservice around here, and wtf did the guy did to the girl, he simply just molested her.
Jan 13, 2017 10:50 AM

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I feel like I'm going to be very frustrated/disappointed throughout this ride but I am ready to be broken. OP and ED are both pretty nice.
Jan 13, 2017 11:03 AM
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Nigami_Shin said:
that's seinen? looks more like shoujo - no it doesn't look like shoujo. this is shoujo.

anyway romance from a female perpective? dropped


There are multiple perspectives from many of the different characters in the source. And if they stick to the source without serious changes then the anime will not just be told from the main girl's perspective, but from main boy and also a few other side characters.
Jan 13, 2017 11:04 AM

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Well, them fuzzy drawn lines irritated me in the beginning, but I'm over it now.
Also, I didn't expect this show to be that... idk, mature?
Although any romance w/ "onii-chan~" in it kinda triggers me.

Let's see where this is heading...
Jan 13, 2017 11:26 AM

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Nigami_Shin said:
that's seinen? looks more like shoujo - no it doesn't look like shoujo. this is shoujo.

anyway romance from a female perpective? dropped



Dropping another show for no reason? Not surprised.

Jan 13, 2017 11:33 AM

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Essentially friends with benefits; very interesting. This series will become complicated.



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Jan 13, 2017 11:46 AM

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Best anime I have seen so far this season I really love the chemistry between the two main characters and in the every episode is going to be like this I'm going to enjoy it 5 out of 5
Jan 13, 2017 12:11 PM

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Beautiful visuals. The story seems to be frustrating. But I don't think that I will drop it. Phenomenal narration and direction.
Great OP song btw.
rsc-plJan 13, 2017 12:40 PM
Dub = fake crap. Always.
Jan 13, 2017 12:12 PM

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not a fan of Romance but that was actually good. the visuals and the directing are simply amazing
Jan 13, 2017 12:38 PM

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I was looking forward to this anime and so far it met my expectations. Very interesting episode, nice animation and also op/ed themes.

5/5
Jan 13, 2017 12:38 PM

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Wow I was wondering if I should stop watching like each minute.. It started of REALLY great.. until she said "oni-chan" and I was like

...wait what.


It's pretty obvious they are not related whatsoever... but did they have to use the word "oni-chan"? This triggers me so much. I feel like I need to explain a lot when someone walks in watching me see this, lol.

Other than that: this anime is ridiciously and suprisingly mature. I really love the animation, characters and how they are not modest on romance scenes at all. I really look forward to watching the entire show, even though I have to learn how to let go of the cringeness of "oni-chan" X_X
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Jan 13, 2017 12:44 PM

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Is this going to be the new School Days?
Jan 13, 2017 1:18 PM

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randomman57 said:
Nigami_Shin said:
that's seinen? looks more like shoujo - no it doesn't look like shoujo. this is shoujo.

anyway romance from a female perpective? dropped


There are multiple perspectives from many of the different characters in the source. And if they stick to the source without serious changes then the anime will not just be told from the main girl's perspective, but from main boy and also a few other side characters.


ok that sounds better. maybe i'll give it two more episodes

Kittens-kun said:
Nigami_Shin said:
that's seinen? looks more like shoujo - no it doesn't look like shoujo. this is shoujo.

anyway romance from a female perpective? dropped



Dropping another show for no reason? Not surprised.


well i have seen enough to know what i like. also i'd say "i don't like romance from a female perpective" is a pretty good reason


Jan 13, 2017 1:57 PM

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Nigami_Shin said:
randomman57 said:


There are multiple perspectives from many of the different characters in the source. And if they stick to the source without serious changes then the anime will not just be told from the main girl's perspective, but from main boy and also a few other side characters.


ok that sounds better. maybe i'll give it two more episodes

Kittens-kun said:



Dropping another show for no reason? Not surprised.


well i have seen enough to know what i like. also i'd say "i don't like romance from a female perpective" is a pretty good reason



But it makes no sense. A majority of romances have a female prospective.

Jan 13, 2017 2:07 PM
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Nigami_Shin said:
randomman57 said:


There are multiple perspectives from many of the different characters in the source. And if they stick to the source without serious changes then the anime will not just be told from the main girl's perspective, but from main boy and also a few other side characters.


ok that sounds better. maybe i'll give it two more episodes

Kittens-kun said:



Dropping another show for no reason? Not surprised.


well i have seen enough to know what i like. also i'd say "i don't like romance from a female perpective" is a pretty good reason


I should've elaborated a bit more on that. The girl is still pretty heavily focused on in the series, but there are definitely many scenes and arcs where she is non-existant/not the main focus.
Jan 13, 2017 2:33 PM
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I don't know what to say about this.
It's just that I've been searching for something like this for a long time. I have been watching anime for a while now, but I kinda felt like the "honey moon phase" was over, like, something was missing from my anime watching that I hadn't felt since I started. But this brought it back.
This was a great first episode. The first thing to point out is the atmosphere. It was depressing, gloomy, and managed to keep me on my toes throughout the whole episode.
The characters were very well developed. They were mature, well written, and realistic. This by no means doesn't mean you'll like them, they're supposed to be scum, but that's the point, they're real people, with issues and flaws.
The visual style that was opted for I think really brought out the best in the show,with neat directing choices, like using manga panels over backdrops, used to portray some distance between the MC's by showing them in different pannels, but showing them in the same pannel when talking about their relationshipwith each other (not sure on this, might have to rewatch episode, will edit later).
Besides that, the animation was good, I wouldn't say great, but it was definitely a good looking episode.
The melancholic, depressing monologue was very good, contributing to the overall dark atmosphere of the show.
Overall, this was a great episode, that introduced the characters in a great way, and managed to build and maintain a great atmosphere. If you like your dark romance stories, you're in for a treat.
10/10
I_Am_DuDaJan 13, 2017 2:52 PM
Jan 13, 2017 2:37 PM

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Wow.

Beautiful, yet so deliciously ugly. The art as well as the background music definitely enhance the plot greatly. The episode definitely left me craving for more.

A wish of seeing something spectacular doesn't seem that far-fetched.
Jan 13, 2017 3:15 PM

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Let me be completely honest here. I watched the first episode expecting this show to barely scratch the surface of what a relationship is and what love is. I saw the tag seinen and wondered what could this series possibly offer that would be valuable. This would be catered towards young men, so this idea of love would be completely butchered especially if guys enjoy reading the serialization of this series. There has to be something they keep coming back for, am I right? Do not shoot me yet. I still have more shade to throw, and yes I am pretty much the person you do not want to discuss anime with before I have watched a series and only know of it. The plot summary of Kuzu no Honkai basically reaffirmed my thoughts that the characters would all experience superficial love and replace that love in the form of one another. The two would fantasize and only take what they find beneficial from the relationship they created and mask it as love. This was what they were doing with their secret love and all in all it would just be pointless to watch. The relationship that the two of them has is one of dependence, one where they would reveal their true selves (bad and good sides), and learn that they accept every part of each other. And then I concluded the ending was obvious and that this would be a complete waste of time because this was fiction and they create certain situations that allows for this "artificial love" to evolve "naturally". Yes, I almost completely dismissed this series thinking all that.

This is where I was wrong. Well, sure, I do see a lot of this going on, however this representation of unrequited love is far more realistic I believe than shoujo romance. In shoujo, there is this depiction of this chaste love where someone merely has pure feelings of love and affection towards someone. Even in unrequited love, the protagonist's feelings transform into a strong desire. This desire however is rarely characterized in a sexual way because love, the love that most young girls will seek after, is a perfect, facade of unconditional love. Thus, their feelings would be reciprocated in the same way and very rarely will they be completely exposed and look like a wretch in the manga. Sure, the protagonist will have her flaws, but at the end of the day she is to be a generic representation of every girl. No girl wants to believe they are desperate, evil, or wicked even in unrequited love and seek primarily for feelings of satisfaction only while reading. Similarly, the objects of affection for the viewers, the princes, will have flaws to add an element of realism, but at the end of the day the entire being is characterized as pure. The feelings are pure. Relationships are perfectly molded as pure, seemingly 'completely platonic', and completely devoid of actual human feelings of desire.

Not to say shoujo series are completely unrealistic, but love is depicted with much more truth in this series to me at least from what I have gathered in this first episode. All the feelings dismissed in a lot of shoujo series, that desire, loss and pain all accompany this abstract feeling of attraction people have for one another. I would be lying if I did not say that I rolled my eyes at the 'near-sex' scene expecting this to basically turn into what I thought it would be, but more than anything, the potential of what this sad story could evolve or turn into overshadowed b=my presumptions.

I will say, I still have my reservations, though. In terms of art, it had its wonderful moments, but at the same time I think that what has the potential to go wrong (obviously in every anime) is the plot so that is where my reservations will lie.
EarlCielJan 13, 2017 3:21 PM
Jan 13, 2017 4:00 PM

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Well, this was an interesting pilot. Refreshing
Jan 13, 2017 4:48 PM

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Wow, what a surprise, sasuga Noitanima!

It was certainly great first episode and already like the drama and the way whole series is very mature when dealing with relationships unlike other animes. Their was certain charm in their level of nonchalant intimacy and I can't wait to see more of their interaction even with other characters.
The anime also managed to create almost perfect mood fitting this unrequited romance.

Anzai Chika (remember Reina) was wonderful VA, almost on HanaKana level (well, she sounded very similiar at least). And she made Hana's inside monologues very real and sincere.

My little gripe is that while the series tries to be real she's in love with her brother which is something very anime-like but then again they are of different age (10 or so years), didn't grow up together and have only one parent shared (probably his father who was flirting and banged her mother while being already married). And in such situation the bond she grew to him doesn't feel so unreal anymore.

All in all this has very big potential to be the best romantic drama series I have seen in several years so I hope it only get better and better.
Jan 13, 2017 4:50 PM

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I'm getting really annoyed with the many misleading comments about the NTR. If you have truly read the manga and searched up the meaning of NTR. There's no NTR. Who knows how many people become disinterested because of misunderstandings.
Jan 13, 2017 4:59 PM

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I knew that I was going to love this show.
Jan 13, 2017 5:32 PM

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Ooh, this feels new. Refreshing to have leads that act naturally and don't get all flustered around each other and then maybe, maybe share a kiss in the last episode... I mean I get that they're not exactly "into" each other but still. :P I can definitely see it going the obvious way but I've yet to see this kinda thing in anime format, which makes it more interesting.
Jan 13, 2017 6:46 PM

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Nigami_Shin said:
randomman57 said:


There are multiple perspectives from many of the different characters in the source. And if they stick to the source without serious changes then the anime will not just be told from the main girl's perspective, but from main boy and also a few other side characters.


ok that sounds better. maybe i'll give it two more episodes

Kittens-kun said:



Dropping another show for no reason? Not surprised.


well i have seen enough to know what i like. also i'd say "i don't like romance from a female perpective" is a pretty good reason


Wait, what?
From what I have heard, this will have several narrators over the course - that is we will have episodes where we hear what goes trough Mugi's head and such. Or in other words - from his perspective.
Jan 13, 2017 7:05 PM

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So, basically, softcore porn. What's so deep and mature about this one, guys? Rakugo, ACCA, and Onihei from this season are more mature than this one.
Jan 13, 2017 8:11 PM

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FlamingMangos said:
I'm getting really annoyed with the many misleading comments about the NTR. If you have truly read the manga and searched up the meaning of NTR. There's no NTR. Who knows how many people become disinterested because of misunderstandings.


It's like people here don't know what NTR actually is now.
Jan 13, 2017 9:00 PM

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Her giggle at the end struck home. I melted. Side note, I shouldn't have read the manga ch. 16. Now I know this thing is going to explode! Plot wise, it's going to get crazy....crazy GOOD! Worth watching.
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Jan 13, 2017 11:42 PM

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Mormegil said:
So, basically, softcore porn. What's so deep and mature about this one, guys? Rakugo, ACCA, and Onihei from this season are more mature than this one.


It's mature as in it requires an acquired mature taste to enjoy this. The shows you're listed are _totally_ different, and to enjoy the mature themes (murder and bloodshed) of those requires no maturity at all - in fact, rather the opposite.

Kuzu no Honkai only "works" if you have the ability to empathize with the characters, and try to understand their motivations for what they're doing. This requires a modicum of intellectual and emotional engagement, which most people who dislike the show simply don't have.
Jan 14, 2017 12:08 AM

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@Mentar Murder and bloodshed in Rakugo and ACCA? You clearly haven't watched either.

Nice spin, though.
Jan 14, 2017 12:20 AM

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Mormegil said:
@Mentar Murder and bloodshed in Rakugo and ACCA? You clearly haven't watched either.


That was referring to Onihei, and I confused Rakugo with another bloody show. Still, point taken.

Nice spin, though.


No spin. If you have no interest or capacity to empathize with the characters, this show is not for you. Oblivious labeling like "softcore porn" doesn't help your case.
Jan 14, 2017 1:07 AM

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This is my anime of the season so far in terms of first impressions, definitely looking forward to watching more! :D
Jan 14, 2017 1:15 AM

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I actually don't have expectation for this show but it turn to be great anime. 10/10, AOTS for me. Just catch up with latest manga chapter, really amazing and sad.
Jan 14, 2017 1:34 AM

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Damn!! This is what I like. More of mature scenes and some romance >.<
This anime is erotic. Makes me want to re-watch it over and over again.
Jan 14, 2017 2:43 AM

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niwasatou said:
Kagami said:
Its because a lot of anime fans are likely half watching every anime they watch and/or are really stupid. I learned to not post in these episode review threads because I find myself realizing I am smarter than 90% of the people here due to the dumb things people spout.

Some people will take offense to that, but its just how it is.


Nah, this one's on the subs using the word "brother". I can't remember ever seeing that translation for a relationship that wasn't siblings or step siblings. I was 50-50 on whether they were seperated by divorce or he was just a childhood friend, if the subs had used a different word or his name I would have been 100% sure it wasn't incest.


Yeah, the subs never made this neighborhood onii-chan clarification. Honestly, based on the way she words some things I thought she said they were half-siblings with different fathers
Jan 14, 2017 5:06 AM

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Pretty good start. My first time seeing a highly anticipated Anime that is not afraid to show sexual scenes. The quality of animation is also top-notch which adds to the spice it gives for every monologue.

I cannot say that this is borderline-hentai since most of the 'sexual' scenes were just kissing and touching magnificent places.... but I can assure you that it is rated-17+

10/10 for first episode.


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Jan 14, 2017 5:19 AM

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THAT MELANCHOLIC OST
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Jan 14, 2017 7:37 AM

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I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be serious but I can't stop laughing lmao. I don't even know how to rate this.
Jan 14, 2017 9:21 AM

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For a first episode I think it was perfect.
I think that this anime will be one of top tiers of all time!
I just hope they won`t overdo erotic scenes except if it still do something with the drama and story or they will lose their meaning.
Jan 14, 2017 9:25 AM
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I don't know what it is, but I find this show utterly beautiful.
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Jan 14, 2017 10:16 AM

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I think this is going to be my favourite this season. This was so good.

Jan 14, 2017 10:25 AM

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This episode was so edgy I could feel it cutting my wrist xD

Jaja, while that is true, I started watching this anime with some degree of knowledge about what I was about so I expected drama, edginess, sex, and of course, sexual depravation. So this episode didn't give any surprise.

The animation is really smooth and calm, I really liked it. The photography, how they used small panels for some close ups and having more than 1 subject in one scene; the effects for flashbacks, the hand drawing... the sound (oh, those kissing sounds tho xD)

I do have to ask, just with this episode, how much did it deviated from the source material? I mean, was it exactly like the original or there was censoring in the anime? In any way, I expect this to become much more... ejem... carnal.

Good anime, looking forward to see how the plot unfolds.


Still, edgy as fuck xD
Jan 14, 2017 10:27 AM

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I think the real issue is so many fans say stupid shit that proves that they're either not paying any attention to anime they watch or are just in fact not very bright.


It's what happens when people jump to conclusions instead of using critical thinking. Perhaps that's the same thing as being not very bright.
Jan 14, 2017 10:46 AM

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So, basically, softcore porn.


Porn is made to be at least tittilating. The "sex scene" in this first episode was more depressing than anything else. And why can't a story explore psychosexual themes, desire and lust (you know, emotions that come with being in love?) without being "porn"?
Jan 14, 2017 11:37 AM

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HumbertoZero said:
(oh, those kissing sounds tho xD)

how much did it deviated from the source material?



They adapted the first 2 chapters of manga in the first episode and the scene was the same in the manga, it was also not explicit. But I think from now on they might censor it because there will be more "intense" scenes.

Anyway although they changed some details from the manga, it was a really nice adaption. I loved the animation and music.

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Jan 14, 2017 11:41 AM

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Really enjoyed the ep,feelt a bit bad for the Mugi & Yasuraoka,I really liked the Op a bit less the ending.Let's see how the story proceed
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