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Jul 26, 2013 3:00 AM
#102
THIS WAS SO AWESOME, I EVEN FORGOT TO COME AND VOTE HERE :3 |
Jul 26, 2013 3:43 AM
#103
Minagatachi said: Core1019 said: Guess I'll be the first to moan: Animation: Too fluid, looked terrible. Didn't feel like anything really connected, same problem as original 133 and Shippuuden 167. Sound: Didn't really feel the soundtracks they chose for this episode for some reason. Meteor: You call that a meteor? That was just a big boulder falling. Anyone see on the news a while back that meteor that flew near atmosphere over Russia and shattered all the windows as it went past? That's how much pressure a meteor should create as it's falling, not so some little old man can touch it without being killed. They're supposed to be fast... Despite moaning, the content was awesome, just they way it was done by the studio was terrible. It was a meteorite, it's under the definition of a meteorite. You don't just have boulders floating around the sky. Also, not all are the same size. yeah 1. anime - its silly trying to bring in questions of realism to an anime like naruto 2. if you do, you should realize what madara has summoned makes the rock that hit russia a pebble if that. earth's gravity is not so strong that it will be moving rocks that big anywhere near as fast. anyways, this episode was done pretty well. the bgm wasn't bad but could have been better imo. as for the frames of madara taking out the footsoldiers, yeah there were some pretty bad ones, whether it was on purpose or not. the misdrawn eyes especially. while there were some details you would need to pause for to see, it did look pretty odd compared to the previous scenes - awkwardly drawn bodies and very plain coloring. that said, the average viewer who watches this on an actual television wouldn't be criticizing such things to great extents. it's an afterthought. the other scenes were done well for the most part. |
Jul 26, 2013 5:13 AM
#105
ArtemisX said: You can't expect every solitary scene to have excellent drawings for every single frame. No, I expect it to be at least, somewhat, barely decent. ArtemisX said: The fact of the matter is, that the animation had fluidity in it and it created that illusion where you couldn't really tell it was poor quality drawings just by watching it, unless of course your break it down into frames like some people seem to be doing. I can easily tell. The framerate in this fight was was lower than in the Pain fight, and the frames were worse in some areas, so I don't know how you can use the fluidity excuse. Honestly, I'd still call it shit even if they gave us 60 fps, because more crappy frames doesn't make crappy frames any better. How can you even call this animation good in comparison to other great fight scenes lately? |
Jul 26, 2013 5:44 AM
#106
Math 101: 10+0 is the same as 0+10 Fluid animation consisting of shitty frames is the same as a shitty animated scene with great stills. Doesnt matter how big a bag is if all what's inside is crap. |
Jul 26, 2013 5:59 AM
#107
Jul 26, 2013 6:56 AM
#108
ArtemisX said: How can you even call this animation good in comparison to other great fight scenes lately? The thing is, Naruto hasn't had any great fight scenes since the Chikara arc. This is the first proper standout episode in a long time. Sure, some cuts like Madara's fight through the smoke as shown above could stand to have better drawings but by all means it's a damn sight better than the garbage we've been seeing for several months already. At least the execution is more ambitious given the animated backgrounds and tracking shot. For a series like Naruto where production schedules are tight, it's a commendable effort at the very least. |
Jul 26, 2013 9:05 AM
#109
Dayum..! DAT Madara! Best episode in years! So the Sharingan can evolve to a Rinnegan? :O Next Madara Vs Kage's awesome!!!!!! |
Jul 26, 2013 12:11 PM
#110
I can re-watch this episode many times. finally things are catching up with the manga's awesomeness. excellent animation <3 |
Jul 26, 2013 12:23 PM
#111
Danny-REI said: So the Sharingan can evolve to a Rinnegan? :O! It's a theory, but I believe Madara could only evolve his Sharingan to a Rinnegan because he planted Hashirama's DNA (and thus united the divided bloodline of the Rikudo Sennin) into himself. So, if you're thinking that Sasuke will probably get a Rinnegan, then probably no. |
Jul 26, 2013 12:51 PM
#112
Fiji said: To the director of this episode, please keep up the good work, and do all of the future remaining episodes of Naruto! Damn. Seeing Madara animated... so epic!!! Holy. This is seriously one of the best Naruto episodes we got again... feels like a long time I got goosebumps from a Naruto episode since the battle of the Fourth Hokage and The Masked Man! Exactly what I felt when watching this.... It was just getting too boring when suddenly they amaze us with such an episode. Let's hope the keep it up for at least 10 more episodes, because I believe this episode took a lot of time and work (I"m just guessing, most of the fillers contained flashbacks which didn't need to be re-animated so they were probably working on this episode, also the previous episode had shitty animation). |
Jul 26, 2013 2:47 PM
#113
akihikosama said: I am shocked so many people say that they liked the animation, it was terrible, some even posted screenshots of how terrible it was too. I wish they would have spent more time on this episode, the fight could have been so much more epic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the art style that you're referring to? Also, in my opinion it's unfair to post single screenshots of a fight that is going at such a fast pace. |
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Jul 26, 2013 3:09 PM
#114
the animation was sub par, but the pace made up for it imo. you couldnt even notice it that much except in one or two parts unless you froze frame so i dont see the big deal. |
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Jul 26, 2013 4:18 PM
#115
hasjhfalsdhfasjdhfaskdjfaksjfla That was Awesome XDD Madara is godly. Dat animation and Meteor : 0_______ Lets' hope next week has the same animation. |
Jul 26, 2013 4:24 PM
#116
Glob, how much you expect... no fillers blah blah blah. Bad animation in fast moving scene blah blah blah. Well stop watching it, or watch it till the end of the war then give up on it and never come back. In all honesty you have your rights to say what you like or not. But please if you have nothing good to say then try to not say it. I liked this episode, I didn't give a crap about the animation in the fast paced part. Not to say I didn't see that it was crappy but as many others I was interested in the fight scene rather than graphics. Also my senses are feeling that more fillers or releases every 2nd week. They've done that everytime it was a big episode that needs better drawing. That meteorite and some other scenes were awesomely drawn. HOPE I'm wrong. Also 5/5 and can't wait to see the next episode, finally we can see something epic. |
Jul 26, 2013 5:45 PM
#117
Madara Uchiha: Kicks more ass in one episode than a villain has ever done in 500+ episodes |
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Jul 26, 2013 5:48 PM
#118
Also, I confess after watching Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san and seeing that meteor, I burst out laughing. :) |
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Jul 26, 2013 6:31 PM
#119
ao_no_exo said: Glob, how much you expect... no fillers blah blah blah. Bad animation in fast moving scene blah blah blah. Well stop watching it, or watch it till the end of the war then give up on it and never come back. In all honesty you have your rights to say what you like or not. But please if you have nothing good to say then try to not say it. I liked this episode, I didn't give a crap about the animation in the fast paced part. Not to say I didn't see that it was crappy but as many others I was interested in the fight scene rather than graphics. Also my senses are feeling that more fillers or releases every 2nd week. They've done that everytime it was a big episode that needs better drawing. That meteorite and some other scenes were awesomely drawn. HOPE I'm wrong. Also 5/5 and can't wait to see the next episode, finally we can see something epic. Same logic: if you don't like our complaints, don't read them. |
Jul 26, 2013 9:52 PM
#120
Was anyone else's mouth agape when Madara through the bomb tag on an allied shinobi and he blew up around a group of people?! or when the second boulder fell from the sky and Madara said the cheesiest line "how about the second one?" lol this episode hit me completely by surprise! the animation was unusually sharp. similar to when naruto fought Pain. THIS EPISODE WAS AWESOME. |
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Jul 27, 2013 1:28 AM
#121
Damn its been a while since I watched a shippuden episode. The only flaws I can see in this episode its the drawing animation when Madara slice all those fodder ninjas. Other than that this episode, the amount of organism.... ohgod *no homo* |
Jul 27, 2013 6:50 AM
#122
Dolan-chan said: ao_no_exo said: Glob, how much you expect... no fillers blah blah blah. Bad animation in fast moving scene blah blah blah. Well stop watching it, or watch it till the end of the war then give up on it and never come back. In all honesty you have your rights to say what you like or not. But please if you have nothing good to say then try to not say it. I liked this episode, I didn't give a crap about the animation in the fast paced part. Not to say I didn't see that it was crappy but as many others I was interested in the fight scene rather than graphics. Also my senses are feeling that more fillers or releases every 2nd week. They've done that everytime it was a big episode that needs better drawing. That meteorite and some other scenes were awesomely drawn. HOPE I'm wrong. Also 5/5 and can't wait to see the next episode, finally we can see something epic. Same logic: if you don't like our complaints, don't read them. Fair enough. I'll try to read less :). Tho' people want to have a good time on wherever they are. |
Jul 27, 2013 7:51 AM
#123
SlayerBoy said: this is best episode in all animes!!! You mean best of this anime? Well yeah this episode is awesome but you are forgeting how awesome the fight between Pain and Naruto was. These are epic :D. |
Jul 27, 2013 9:30 AM
#125
Finally, a good episode... Though the animation quality was low. |
Jul 27, 2013 10:34 AM
#126
Really awesome fight scenes. I got those fangirl chills that I haven't felt in a while. <3 So happy that they at least made this part epic! I'm still missing all the epic-ness that I felt in those previous Naruto fights though. (Most notably, Pain, Itachi-Sasuke craziness, etc.) But still, probably the best scene in the war so far, imo. Animation wasn't half bad either. |
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Jul 27, 2013 12:14 PM
#127
Jul 27, 2013 1:49 PM
#128
freaking epic.. |
Jul 27, 2013 2:02 PM
#129
ao_no_exo said: SlayerBoy said: this is best episode in all animes!!! You mean best of this anime? Well yeah this episode is awesome but you are forgeting how awesome the fight between Pain and Naruto was. These are epic :D. I would have to say Chikara still takes number 1 spot, but this is a close 2nd for sure. So i guess we will have alot more users posting here now :P, so many new faces i don't recognize from the previous filler episode discussions. |
Jul 27, 2013 2:09 PM
#130
AzureAlert said: ArtemisX said: You can't expect every solitary scene to have excellent drawings for every single frame. No, I expect it to be at least, somewhat, barely decent. ArtemisX said: The fact of the matter is, that the animation had fluidity in it and it created that illusion where you couldn't really tell it was poor quality drawings just by watching it, unless of course your break it down into frames like some people seem to be doing. I can easily tell. The framerate in this fight was was lower than in the Pain fight, and the frames were worse in some areas, so I don't know how you can use the fluidity excuse. Honestly, I'd still call it shit even if they gave us 60 fps, because more crappy frames doesn't make crappy frames any better. How can you even call this animation good in comparison to other great fight scenes lately? You have to keep in mind that some of these scenes were choreographed from the studio alone, not adapted from the manga. They had no grounds to work on such scene such as when madara uses the blades and slices up all the nobody ninja's, it added a little more to the action, where as the manga's pacing was much quicker. But honesty guys some of you are critical when it comes to things like this. Thats completely your choice in the matter, i just think its a bit harsh lol, for an episode that had 95% at least excellent quality, but you just focus on that one little section 5% left over fodder material. Same thing with pains fight, that fight was intense, amazing and fluid animation, you just focused on that ONE frame where pain's head was deformed a bit and everyone now is calling the entire pain battle the worst animation. See how rumors spread? |
Jul 27, 2013 4:58 PM
#131
ArtemisX said: ao_no_exo said: SlayerBoy said: this is best episode in all animes!!! You mean best of this anime? Well yeah this episode is awesome but you are forgeting how awesome the fight between Pain and Naruto was. These are epic :D. I would have to say Chikara still takes number 1 spot, but this is a close 2nd for sure. So i guess we will have alot more users posting here now :P, so many new faces i don't recognize from the previous filler episode discussions. Are you refering to me as new too? xD I watched all of the fillers, tho' I'm not sure if I commented on all of them. I really can't remember. Also there's a guy who accidentaly posted his comment about this episode on the previous episode discussion. @killybillygr |
Jul 27, 2013 5:22 PM
#132
Look like august is going to be awesome. 323 "The Five Kage Assemble" "Gokage Shūketsu...!!" (五影集結...!!) August 1, 2013 324 "The Unbreakable Mask and the Popped Bubbles" "Warenai Kamen — Wareta Shabondama" (割れない仮面・割れたシャボン玉) August 8, 2013 325 "Jinchūriki vs. Jinchūriki!!" "Jinchūriki VS Jinchūriki!!" (人柱力VS人柱力!!) August 15, 2013 326 "Four-Tails: King of the Sage Monkeys" "Yonbi — Sen'en no Ō" (四尾・仙猿の王) August 22, 2013 |
Jul 27, 2013 5:46 PM
#133
ArtemisX said: You have to keep in mind that some of these scenes were choreographed from the studio alone, not adapted from the manga. They had no grounds to work on such scene such as when madara uses the blades and slices up all the nobody ninja's, it added a little more to the action, where as the manga's pacing was much quicker. But honesty guys some of you are critical when it comes to things like this. I don't read the manga so I don't really know how much of the fight was added by the studio. I guess my question is why would they try to insert material that wasn't part of the manga? That seems to be a setup for failure if they don't want to spend the money to make it flow much smoother. Not that I expect an answer, just to me it doesn't make sense. |
Jul 27, 2013 6:46 PM
#134
Shanks_Hashirama said: Damn its been a while since I watched a shippuden episode. The only flaws I can see in this episode its the drawing animation when Madara slice all those fodder ninjas. I have noticed that. When the fight scenes in Naruto are animated in a really good way, they decrease the art quality. |
Jul 27, 2013 7:29 PM
#135
Ayame0126 said: Shanks_Hashirama said: Damn its been a while since I watched a shippuden episode. The only flaws I can see in this episode its the drawing animation when Madara slice all those fodder ninjas. I have noticed that. When the fight scenes in Naruto are animated in a really good way, they decrease the art quality. Yeah the studio kind of had to come up with their own little extra flare, instead of taking the panels from the manga. |
Jul 27, 2013 8:57 PM
#136
Jul 28, 2013 12:18 AM
#137
First half was really good, if only the second half had the same pacing. |
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Jul 28, 2013 10:35 AM
#138
Hashirama must of been a complete beast to beat Madara, the 5 kage would be totally out of his league. |
Mastery through endless repetition. |
Jul 28, 2013 6:28 PM
#139
chaoz28 said: Jovy said: The animators accidentally gave Madara Rinnegan eyes at 7:36 ish even though he activated it for "the first time" at 9:55 @7:37 ![]() Damn it animators! Please do your work properly! At least for this arc! Noticed this and came here just to see if anyone else did. Bothered the hell out of me because I rolled the episode back like 10 times wondering if I saw what I think I saw. Made no sense that this episode was so anticipated, and that Naruto took a week break, and we still got this crappy animation/sloppily thrown together episode. I understand that making an animated episode involves teams of tens to sometimes hundreds just to get one episode together but these kind of things should be looked over by an editor. Naruto is no longer a good anime, just a good source of income for Shonen Jump. Don't worry, there will be many more facepalms to come once the shows rolls on. Anyone who has read the manga knows what I'm talking about. Nothing makes sense anymore, could go into detail but I don't want to spoil it for people who still enjoy it. Plus it would only make me rage. |
Jul 28, 2013 6:49 PM
#140
Eltrik said: Minagatachi said: Core1019 said: Guess I'll be the first to moan: Animation: Too fluid, looked terrible. Didn't feel like anything really connected, same problem as original 133 and Shippuuden 167. Sound: Didn't really feel the soundtracks they chose for this episode for some reason. Meteor: You call that a meteor? That was just a big boulder falling. Anyone see on the news a while back that meteor that flew near atmosphere over Russia and shattered all the windows as it went past? That's how much pressure a meteor should create as it's falling, not so some little old man can touch it without being killed. They're supposed to be fast... Despite moaning, the content was awesome, just they way it was done by the studio was terrible. It was a meteorite, it's under the definition of a meteorite. You don't just have boulders floating around the sky. Also, not all are the same size. yeah 1. anime - its silly trying to bring in questions of realism to an anime like naruto 2. if you do, you should realize what madara has summoned makes the rock that hit russia a pebble if that. earth's gravity is not so strong that it will be moving rocks that big anywhere near as fast. anyways, this episode was done pretty well. the bgm wasn't bad but could have been better imo. as for the frames of madara taking out the footsoldiers, yeah there were some pretty bad ones, whether it was on purpose or not. the misdrawn eyes especially. while there were some details you would need to pause for to see, it did look pretty odd compared to the previous scenes - awkwardly drawn bodies and very plain coloring. that said, the average viewer who watches this on an actual television wouldn't be criticizing such things to great extents. it's an afterthought. the other scenes were done well for the most part. Ok, First of all, it is anime you are right. On the second point you couldn't be more wrong. A meteor is pretty much anything traveling through space, a meteorite, is what it becomes once it enters earths atmosphere. Meteors move through space at speeds far beyond the barriers of sound on earth because there is much less friction in space, which is why the meteorite that hit Russia broke windows, and damaged buildings, it's speed broke the sound barrier creating a shockwave, and the friction from it's speed caused it to disintegrate with such explosive force. The earth's gravity is actually rather strong, it does keep the Moon circulating around the planet. So yes, the earth's gravity could alter the trajectory of a meteor that size in order for it to hit the planet, and since the meteor is already traveling at speeds in excess of the speed of sound, about 760 mph in the upper atmosphere I believe, the meteor would be unstoppable. Plus, if a meteor of that size hit the planet, it would be enough to alter earth's orbit. The day might be slightly shorter or longer. Not to mention the effect's of the meteor would be on the level of a nuclear bomb. There would be no survivors, of the first nor the second. The friction of the air on the meteor/meteorite would cause it to ignite, as we saw the with the one in Russia. That's why even for space shuttles heat shielding is so important. Columbia ignited and exploded from the friction of reentry, so imagine a space rock 100x as massive with no heat shielding. That's a big freaking time bomb, whether it hits the earth or explodes mid air, you will feel it far and wide. The earth itself would shake from the plate tectonics, being suddely hit by that much force. I'm surprised Madara's aim is so good, you would have to have some seriously precise calculations to summon a meteor from outside or even upper earth atmosphere, and get it to hit where you wanted,TWICE. Most long range missile guidance systems are not even that accurate. Sorry to go off like that, but when people throw out false information regarding space, it annoys me. I am very interested in astrophysics. |
Jul 28, 2013 11:50 PM
#141
MeedaK said: Eltrik said: Minagatachi said: Core1019 said: Guess I'll be the first to moan: Animation: Too fluid, looked terrible. Didn't feel like anything really connected, same problem as original 133 and Shippuuden 167. Sound: Didn't really feel the soundtracks they chose for this episode for some reason. Meteor: You call that a meteor? That was just a big boulder falling. Anyone see on the news a while back that meteor that flew near atmosphere over Russia and shattered all the windows as it went past? That's how much pressure a meteor should create as it's falling, not so some little old man can touch it without being killed. They're supposed to be fast... Despite moaning, the content was awesome, just they way it was done by the studio was terrible. It was a meteorite, it's under the definition of a meteorite. You don't just have boulders floating around the sky. Also, not all are the same size. yeah 1. anime - its silly trying to bring in questions of realism to an anime like naruto 2. if you do, you should realize what madara has summoned makes the rock that hit russia a pebble if that. earth's gravity is not so strong that it will be moving rocks that big anywhere near as fast. anyways, this episode was done pretty well. the bgm wasn't bad but could have been better imo. as for the frames of madara taking out the footsoldiers, yeah there were some pretty bad ones, whether it was on purpose or not. the misdrawn eyes especially. while there were some details you would need to pause for to see, it did look pretty odd compared to the previous scenes - awkwardly drawn bodies and very plain coloring. that said, the average viewer who watches this on an actual television wouldn't be criticizing such things to great extents. it's an afterthought. the other scenes were done well for the most part. Ok, First of all, it is anime you are right. On the second point you couldn't be more wrong. A meteor is pretty much anything traveling through space, a meteorite, is what it becomes once it enters earths atmosphere. Meteors move through space at speeds far beyond the barriers of sound on earth because there is much less friction in space, which is why the meteorite that hit Russia broke windows, and damaged buildings, it's speed broke the sound barrier creating a shockwave, and the friction from it's speed caused it to disintegrate with such explosive force. The earth's gravity is actually rather strong, it does keep the Moon circulating around the planet. So yes, the earth's gravity could alter the trajectory of a meteor that size in order for it to hit the planet, and since the meteor is already traveling at speeds in excess of the speed of sound, about 760 mph in the upper atmosphere I believe, the meteor would be unstoppable. Plus, if a meteor of that size hit the planet, it would be enough to alter earth's orbit. The day might be slightly shorter or longer. Not to mention the effect's of the meteor would be on the level of a nuclear bomb. There would be no survivors, of the first nor the second. The friction of the air on the meteor/meteorite would cause it to ignite, as we saw the with the one in Russia. That's why even for space shuttles heat shielding is so important. Columbia ignited and exploded from the friction of reentry, so imagine a space rock 100x as massive with no heat shielding. That's a big freaking time bomb, whether it hits the earth or explodes mid air, you will feel it far and wide. The earth itself would shake from the plate tectonics, being suddely hit by that much force. I'm surprised Madara's aim is so good, you would have to have some seriously precise calculations to summon a meteor from outside or even upper earth atmosphere, and get it to hit where you wanted,TWICE. Most long range missile guidance systems are not even that accurate. Sorry to go off like that, but when people throw out false information regarding space, it annoys me. I am very interested in astrophysics. I commend you for not just being a troll and actually knowing alot bout physics. But all of this logic would apply to a meteor coming from outer space and breaking through the atmosphere, who is to say that madara's meteorite actually broke earth's atmosphere. What if it was just a huge rock created high above the ground and then smashed down onto the playing field. But honestly speaking you can't take real world astrophysics and apply it to something like naruto, just don't do it, their is many many faults in the series i could find that don't make sense logically in that regards. |
Jul 29, 2013 3:20 AM
#142
ArtemisX said: MeedaK said: Eltrik said: Minagatachi said: Core1019 said: Guess I'll be the first to moan: Animation: Too fluid, looked terrible. Didn't feel like anything really connected, same problem as original 133 and Shippuuden 167. Sound: Didn't really feel the soundtracks they chose for this episode for some reason. Meteor: You call that a meteor? That was just a big boulder falling. Anyone see on the news a while back that meteor that flew near atmosphere over Russia and shattered all the windows as it went past? That's how much pressure a meteor should create as it's falling, not so some little old man can touch it without being killed. They're supposed to be fast... Despite moaning, the content was awesome, just they way it was done by the studio was terrible. It was a meteorite, it's under the definition of a meteorite. You don't just have boulders floating around the sky. Also, not all are the same size. yeah 1. anime - its silly trying to bring in questions of realism to an anime like naruto 2. if you do, you should realize what madara has summoned makes the rock that hit russia a pebble if that. earth's gravity is not so strong that it will be moving rocks that big anywhere near as fast. anyways, this episode was done pretty well. the bgm wasn't bad but could have been better imo. as for the frames of madara taking out the footsoldiers, yeah there were some pretty bad ones, whether it was on purpose or not. the misdrawn eyes especially. while there were some details you would need to pause for to see, it did look pretty odd compared to the previous scenes - awkwardly drawn bodies and very plain coloring. that said, the average viewer who watches this on an actual television wouldn't be criticizing such things to great extents. it's an afterthought. the other scenes were done well for the most part. Ok, First of all, it is anime you are right. On the second point you couldn't be more wrong. A meteor is pretty much anything traveling through space, a meteorite, is what it becomes once it enters earths atmosphere. Meteors move through space at speeds far beyond the barriers of sound on earth because there is much less friction in space, which is why the meteorite that hit Russia broke windows, and damaged buildings, it's speed broke the sound barrier creating a shockwave, and the friction from it's speed caused it to disintegrate with such explosive force. The earth's gravity is actually rather strong, it does keep the Moon circulating around the planet. So yes, the earth's gravity could alter the trajectory of a meteor that size in order for it to hit the planet, and since the meteor is already traveling at speeds in excess of the speed of sound, about 760 mph in the upper atmosphere I believe, the meteor would be unstoppable. Plus, if a meteor of that size hit the planet, it would be enough to alter earth's orbit. The day might be slightly shorter or longer. Not to mention the effect's of the meteor would be on the level of a nuclear bomb. There would be no survivors, of the first nor the second. The friction of the air on the meteor/meteorite would cause it to ignite, as we saw the with the one in Russia. That's why even for space shuttles heat shielding is so important. Columbia ignited and exploded from the friction of reentry, so imagine a space rock 100x as massive with no heat shielding. That's a big freaking time bomb, whether it hits the earth or explodes mid air, you will feel it far and wide. The earth itself would shake from the plate tectonics, being suddely hit by that much force. I'm surprised Madara's aim is so good, you would have to have some seriously precise calculations to summon a meteor from outside or even upper earth atmosphere, and get it to hit where you wanted,TWICE. Most long range missile guidance systems are not even that accurate. Sorry to go off like that, but when people throw out false information regarding space, it annoys me. I am very interested in astrophysics. I commend you for not just being a troll and actually knowing alot bout physics. But all of this logic would apply to a meteor coming from outer space and breaking through the atmosphere, who is to say that madara's meteorite actually broke earth's atmosphere. What if it was just a huge rock created high above the ground and then smashed down onto the playing field. But honestly speaking you can't take real world astrophysics and apply it to something like naruto, just don't do it, their is many many faults in the series i could find that don't make sense logically in that regards. Ha that's so true, you just can't expect the creators to do real world astrophysics in an anime. (Unless you want to wait a month between every episode, maybe not even then). As ArtemisX says the meteorite could have been summoned above clouds and not in the outer space which would still make it a meteor with the difference that it was stopped while summoning it then released above clouds making it fall as the gravity pulled it towards the ground. So gramps and Gaara only had to stop the huge weight the rock/meteorite had. Also this is the weirdest thing I ever had a discussion here :D, whether a rock is a meteorite or not xD. This reminds me, Pain had to do something with planets too. If you think about it he created a ball(did he call it Pluto?) around Naruto. |
Jul 29, 2013 3:43 AM
#143
ao_no_exo said: If it's not from outer space, then it's not a meteorite; it's just a big boulder falling, as I said in first post (although I stand corrected on difference between meteor & meteorite).ArtemisX said: MeedaK said: Eltrik said: Minagatachi said: Core1019 said: Guess I'll be the first to moan: Animation: Too fluid, looked terrible. Didn't feel like anything really connected, same problem as original 133 and Shippuuden 167. Sound: Didn't really feel the soundtracks they chose for this episode for some reason. Meteor: You call that a meteor? That was just a big boulder falling. Anyone see on the news a while back that meteor that flew near atmosphere over Russia and shattered all the windows as it went past? That's how much pressure a meteor should create as it's falling, not so some little old man can touch it without being killed. They're supposed to be fast... Despite moaning, the content was awesome, just they way it was done by the studio was terrible. It was a meteorite, it's under the definition of a meteorite. You don't just have boulders floating around the sky. Also, not all are the same size. yeah 1. anime - its silly trying to bring in questions of realism to an anime like naruto 2. if you do, you should realize what madara has summoned makes the rock that hit russia a pebble if that. earth's gravity is not so strong that it will be moving rocks that big anywhere near as fast. anyways, this episode was done pretty well. the bgm wasn't bad but could have been better imo. as for the frames of madara taking out the footsoldiers, yeah there were some pretty bad ones, whether it was on purpose or not. the misdrawn eyes especially. while there were some details you would need to pause for to see, it did look pretty odd compared to the previous scenes - awkwardly drawn bodies and very plain coloring. that said, the average viewer who watches this on an actual television wouldn't be criticizing such things to great extents. it's an afterthought. the other scenes were done well for the most part. Ok, First of all, it is anime you are right. On the second point you couldn't be more wrong. A meteor is pretty much anything traveling through space, a meteorite, is what it becomes once it enters earths atmosphere. Meteors move through space at speeds far beyond the barriers of sound on earth because there is much less friction in space, which is why the meteorite that hit Russia broke windows, and damaged buildings, it's speed broke the sound barrier creating a shockwave, and the friction from it's speed caused it to disintegrate with such explosive force. The earth's gravity is actually rather strong, it does keep the Moon circulating around the planet. So yes, the earth's gravity could alter the trajectory of a meteor that size in order for it to hit the planet, and since the meteor is already traveling at speeds in excess of the speed of sound, about 760 mph in the upper atmosphere I believe, the meteor would be unstoppable. Plus, if a meteor of that size hit the planet, it would be enough to alter earth's orbit. The day might be slightly shorter or longer. Not to mention the effect's of the meteor would be on the level of a nuclear bomb. There would be no survivors, of the first nor the second. The friction of the air on the meteor/meteorite would cause it to ignite, as we saw the with the one in Russia. That's why even for space shuttles heat shielding is so important. Columbia ignited and exploded from the friction of reentry, so imagine a space rock 100x as massive with no heat shielding. That's a big freaking time bomb, whether it hits the earth or explodes mid air, you will feel it far and wide. The earth itself would shake from the plate tectonics, being suddely hit by that much force. I'm surprised Madara's aim is so good, you would have to have some seriously precise calculations to summon a meteor from outside or even upper earth atmosphere, and get it to hit where you wanted,TWICE. Most long range missile guidance systems are not even that accurate. Sorry to go off like that, but when people throw out false information regarding space, it annoys me. I am very interested in astrophysics. I commend you for not just being a troll and actually knowing alot bout physics. But all of this logic would apply to a meteor coming from outer space and breaking through the atmosphere, who is to say that madara's meteorite actually broke earth's atmosphere. What if it was just a huge rock created high above the ground and then smashed down onto the playing field. But honestly speaking you can't take real world astrophysics and apply it to something like naruto, just don't do it, their is many many faults in the series i could find that don't make sense logically in that regards. Ha that's so true, you just can't expect the creators to do real world astrophysics in an anime. (Unless you want to wait a month between every episode, maybe not even then). As ArtemisX says the meteorite could have been summoned above clouds and not in the outer space which would still make it a meteor with the difference that it was stopped while summoning it then released above clouds making it fall as the gravity pulled it towards the ground. So gramps and Gaara only had to stop the huge weight the rock/meteorite had. Also this is the weirdest thing I ever had a discussion here :D, whether a rock is a meteorite or not xD. This reminds me, Pain had to do something with planets too. If you think about it he created a ball(did he call it Pluto?) around Naruto. Pain's big ball was Chibaku Tensei or Planetary Devestation. |
Jul 29, 2013 4:52 AM
#145
Loved it! I have been waiting for this to be animated for a while, and it didn't disappoint. |
Jul 29, 2013 12:44 PM
#146
Core1019 said: ao_no_exo said: If it's not from outer space, then it's not a meteorite; it's just a big boulder falling, as I said in first post (although I stand corrected on difference between meteor & meteorite).ArtemisX said: MeedaK said: Eltrik said: Minagatachi said: Core1019 said: Guess I'll be the first to moan: Animation: Too fluid, looked terrible. Didn't feel like anything really connected, same problem as original 133 and Shippuuden 167. Sound: Didn't really feel the soundtracks they chose for this episode for some reason. Meteor: You call that a meteor? That was just a big boulder falling. Anyone see on the news a while back that meteor that flew near atmosphere over Russia and shattered all the windows as it went past? That's how much pressure a meteor should create as it's falling, not so some little old man can touch it without being killed. They're supposed to be fast... Despite moaning, the content was awesome, just they way it was done by the studio was terrible. It was a meteorite, it's under the definition of a meteorite. You don't just have boulders floating around the sky. Also, not all are the same size. yeah 1. anime - its silly trying to bring in questions of realism to an anime like naruto 2. if you do, you should realize what madara has summoned makes the rock that hit russia a pebble if that. earth's gravity is not so strong that it will be moving rocks that big anywhere near as fast. anyways, this episode was done pretty well. the bgm wasn't bad but could have been better imo. as for the frames of madara taking out the footsoldiers, yeah there were some pretty bad ones, whether it was on purpose or not. the misdrawn eyes especially. while there were some details you would need to pause for to see, it did look pretty odd compared to the previous scenes - awkwardly drawn bodies and very plain coloring. that said, the average viewer who watches this on an actual television wouldn't be criticizing such things to great extents. it's an afterthought. the other scenes were done well for the most part. Ok, First of all, it is anime you are right. On the second point you couldn't be more wrong. A meteor is pretty much anything traveling through space, a meteorite, is what it becomes once it enters earths atmosphere. Meteors move through space at speeds far beyond the barriers of sound on earth because there is much less friction in space, which is why the meteorite that hit Russia broke windows, and damaged buildings, it's speed broke the sound barrier creating a shockwave, and the friction from it's speed caused it to disintegrate with such explosive force. The earth's gravity is actually rather strong, it does keep the Moon circulating around the planet. So yes, the earth's gravity could alter the trajectory of a meteor that size in order for it to hit the planet, and since the meteor is already traveling at speeds in excess of the speed of sound, about 760 mph in the upper atmosphere I believe, the meteor would be unstoppable. Plus, if a meteor of that size hit the planet, it would be enough to alter earth's orbit. The day might be slightly shorter or longer. Not to mention the effect's of the meteor would be on the level of a nuclear bomb. There would be no survivors, of the first nor the second. The friction of the air on the meteor/meteorite would cause it to ignite, as we saw the with the one in Russia. That's why even for space shuttles heat shielding is so important. Columbia ignited and exploded from the friction of reentry, so imagine a space rock 100x as massive with no heat shielding. That's a big freaking time bomb, whether it hits the earth or explodes mid air, you will feel it far and wide. The earth itself would shake from the plate tectonics, being suddely hit by that much force. I'm surprised Madara's aim is so good, you would have to have some seriously precise calculations to summon a meteor from outside or even upper earth atmosphere, and get it to hit where you wanted,TWICE. Most long range missile guidance systems are not even that accurate. Sorry to go off like that, but when people throw out false information regarding space, it annoys me. I am very interested in astrophysics. I commend you for not just being a troll and actually knowing alot bout physics. But all of this logic would apply to a meteor coming from outer space and breaking through the atmosphere, who is to say that madara's meteorite actually broke earth's atmosphere. What if it was just a huge rock created high above the ground and then smashed down onto the playing field. But honestly speaking you can't take real world astrophysics and apply it to something like naruto, just don't do it, their is many many faults in the series i could find that don't make sense logically in that regards. Ha that's so true, you just can't expect the creators to do real world astrophysics in an anime. (Unless you want to wait a month between every episode, maybe not even then). As ArtemisX says the meteorite could have been summoned above clouds and not in the outer space which would still make it a meteor with the difference that it was stopped while summoning it then released above clouds making it fall as the gravity pulled it towards the ground. So gramps and Gaara only had to stop the huge weight the rock/meteorite had. Also this is the weirdest thing I ever had a discussion here :D, whether a rock is a meteorite or not xD. This reminds me, Pain had to do something with planets too. If you think about it he created a ball(did he call it Pluto?) around Naruto. Pain's big ball was Chibaku Tensei or Planetary Devestation. Oh yeah now that you say it I remembered, I was in a hurry when I wrote that comment so I didn't have time to check. I love how it sounds Chibaku Tensei/ Planetary Devestation. Well yeah if it's not from outer space then indeed it's jus a big boulder falling. But I alsoo said what if it was summoned from outer space and let go above clouds? Lol, nevermind this discussion I feel like it's getting ridiculous :)). |
Jul 29, 2013 7:55 PM
#147
Jul 30, 2013 5:22 AM
#148
yeeeeh great episode, does anyone know what manga part this is? |
Jul 31, 2013 6:46 AM
#149
The next episode FINALLY has the Kage assembled & fighting. Feels like I've been waiting forever for this part of the fighting to start ._. GGNoodles said: yeeeeh great episode, does anyone know what manga part this is? Chapter 560-561 |
Jul 31, 2013 1:29 PM
#150
My reaction to the first meteor: "He's using black materia? The shark is well and truly jumped now" My reaction to the second meteor: "Seriously? we've now jumped into orbit, and the shark is but a memory" Madara's fight animation could not have been more poorly animated. |
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