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| Loved this episode especially the "Patrasche Theme" ringtone. One thing that striked me though is that it was not elaborated where Subaru got the knowledge about the magic stones. Still 5/5 for me. |
| That was a slow buildup despite many things skipped. The episode could do a bit more steady pacing. but that's just me nitpicking. nice cellphone scene that's for sure. I cringed on Rem's jealousy to the dragon. I know it's supposed to be funny, but goddammit Rem you're already rejected! get over it! Would still say Konosuba is AOTY than re:zero. JuNex03 said: huh. so Subaru just happened to pick a ground dragon with alot of Pride underrated post! |
kidlat020Aug 8, 2016 4:21 AM
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
LoneWizard said: JkayW said: He didnt refute anything,he simply said he found 1 thing funny out of bunch of stuff...Fail...You are more of a strawman than he isThe first 10 was just subaru ranting, the other ten was when the actual conversation started. What a glorious strawman you're. Please keep in mind that not everyone here is fighting a battle like certain people,most people here just to have fun and share the fun they are experiencing with others...Dont be so stiff and defensive Look up what a strawman argument is. Finding a point in my argument but adding to the 'refute' by saying its "funny" still makes it a refute. He wasn't sharing his 'experience', he was trying to make me feel bad by trying to find the tiniest flaw in my wall of text because he feels insecure about other people bringing up valid points on a show he likes. This is shown in him adding an unnesceray "I find your argument funny" because that doesn't add anything to the conversation besides making it seem you're better than me because you can just laugh at my well placed points, but he still tries his hardest to try and find a flaw by only responding to one when in reality in DIDNT even matter to the point I was making, even if it was 20 minutes to solve Subaru's problems that's still bullshit and forced. If he could really tear my argument apart he would've but he couldn't because he strawmaned. When someone is defending themself from replies, it's not called being weird and overly defensive like what you're implying, it's called being a normal person that is in a discussion. People reply to replies. And before you strawman by saying "but you added 'wow strawman' at the end of your wall of text" I only pointed out what he did and if any implication of an insult was going through your mind that is only because you noticed he insulted me subliminally so you are trying to see if I did something bad to use against me when in reality I didn't do anything. |
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JkayW said: If he refuted your WHOLE argument depending only on your 1 sentence "literally 10 minutes of dialog exchange." it would be a strawman...he didnt refute your WHOLE comment he only refuted what he refuted....LoneWizard said: He didnt refute anything,he simply said he found 1 thing funny out of bunch of stuff...Fail...You are more of a strawman than he is Please keep in mind that not everyone here is fighting a battle like certain people,most people here just to have fun and share the fun they are experiencing with others...Dont be so stiff and defensive Look up what a strawman argument is. Finding a point in my argument but adding to the 'refute' by saying its "funny" still makes it a refute. He wasn't sharing his 'experience', he was trying to make me feel bad by trying to find the tiniest flaw in my wall of text because he feels insecure about other people bringing up valid points on a show he likes. This is shown in him adding an unnesceray "I find your argument funny" because that doesn't add anything to the conversation besides making it seem you're better than me because you can just laugh at my well placed points, but he still tries his hardest to try and find a flaw by only responding to one when in reality in DIDNT even matter to the point I was making, even if it was 20 minutes to solve Subaru's problems that's still bullshit and forced. If he could really tear my argument apart he would've but he couldn't because he strawmaned. When someone is defending themself from replies, it's not called being weird and overly defensive like what you're implying, it's called being a normal person that is in a discussion. People reply to replies. And before you strawman by saying "but you added 'wow strawman' at the end of your wall of text" I only pointed out what he did and if any implication of an insult was going through your mind that is only because you noticed he insulted me subliminally so you are trying to see if I did something bad to use against me when in reality I didn't do anything. I wouldnt even bother talking here if you didnt bring up tha strawman thing...I hate how overused that term is,pointing out 1 wrong thing doesnt mean its automatically a strawman unless its being used to support an argument as proof... Seriously go look up for what a strawman argument is... |
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| Just to make sure that the simple sweeping "hater" defense is deployed: I still enjoy the show quite a bit, and I am delighted to see Subaru returned to a constructive mode. There is actual story progress, and no more time wasted torturing Subaru. Fine! I buy! Still - I feel compelled to contradict our group of hardcore fans who insist on how extraordinary this show is for its "realistic" depiction of Subaru. I remember that after episode 17, when I voiced my disapproval for devolving Subaru into a screaming ragdoll, many people explained to me with indignant reproach in their voices that Subaru was so broken that it was impossible to act any different than he did. That everyone would react like this. And then, all it takes was 10 friggen minutes - the second half of episode 18 - in which a kind girl comforted Subaru, got him to view things in a different perspective, and encouraged him, and Subaru flips from Zero to Hero like magic. Not only does he turn from buffoon to Sherlock Holmes (e.g. how he "deduced" that it was Crusch's intention to kill the White Whale based on his earlier observations of wagon movements - this was utterly breathtaking), he also tries extremely complicated maneauvers, like playing the interests of the various parties against each other, with them "walking in" on each other at just the right time... that's the very same guy that was completely clueless in the prior iteration! Impossible? No, certainly not. Realistic? *cough* welllllll.... The show has got its strengths, but for my taste, the author is waaaay too fixated on letting Subaru alternate between extremes. I'm almost certain that our Sherlock is going to turn back into Suffaru again fairly soon. A bit less flashiness would be much more in my opinion. But alas. We'll see. |
| LOL! Rem rivalry with dragon. Subaru gain some negotiation skills. Too bad, we don't get to see the fight yet. Next week then. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Jagd84 said: EdHaku said: Sure. -Subaru suddenly got smart and deduced Crusch's plan. This wouldn't be a problem, however, Subaru's character is naive and dumb as we can see from everything he's done. And there's hardly any development showing how he got to this conclusion. -Crusch put the fate of many soldiers because she believed in Subaru. The problem here is that she only believed him because she didn't "feel a wind" in him, but this is proven to fail sometimes, since she believed the lie about his phone. -If the whale killed so many people, why hadn't Crusch done a "whale hunt" before? Even if they didn't know its exact location, they could search for it, knowing that so many people die by it, shouldn't be that difficult to find it. -Why they remember the people who died by the whale, but couldn't remember Rem? (that could be explained later on, tho) -Seems you forgot the whole shaman arc where he deduced and created a clever plan to find and draw out the culprit there? That takes brain power and thinking. He's no genius, but Subaru can certainly put two and two together when he's calm and suffering from trauma. -You 2nd point makes no sense and you have completely the fact he he didn't lie about his phone. -Because this her first time to do so and you have nothing base on that the fact they can find easily other than just because. -At point you shown you can't grasp some basic facts so I don't the answer will even matter. -You see, the problem is not that he deduced what was going on, but how he did it. In the shaman arc, it took several loops, each one of them giving us a hint of what was going on. In this case, it seems that Subaru has perfect memory to remember even the tiniest conversation he overheard in one of his loops. Let's not forget how he perfectly remembers the time on the phone, even when he was being attack by a giant monster. No matter how you look at it, it's too convenient for him. -So, saying that his phone is a metia is not a lie? Sorry, but I don't get what you're trying to say on the last two point. Tony_SansNom said: EdHaku said: Sure. -Subaru suddenly got smart and deduced Crusch's plan. This wouldn't be a problem, however, Subaru's character is naive and dumb as we can see from everything he's done. And there's hardly any development showing how he got to this conclusion Is that even important? What she was going makes sense. You don't have to be Conan to get it... -Crusch put the fate of many soldiers because she believed in Subaru. The problem here is that she only believed him because she didn't "feel a wind" in him, but this is proven to fail sometimes, since she believed the lie about his phone. He wasn't lying about the phone. It's more of a loophole abuse. He wasn't really lying when he said that it's thanks to the phone he knows when the whale will appear. If you watch again, you'll see that when the whale was chasing him, his phone fell and he saw the time it appeared on. -If the whale killed so many people, why hadn't Crusch done a "whale hunt" before? Even if they didn't know its exact location, they could search for it, knowing that so many people die by it, shouldn't be that difficult to find it. Willhelm tracked it his own entire life. Take it however you want, however, I'd say it's not that easy to find it. -Why they remember the people who died by the whale, but couldn't remember Rem? (that could be explained later on, tho) It will be explained soon. -It is important. It does makes sense, but it's still hard for someone like Subaru to think all of that out of the blue. -He said it is a metia, and that is a lie. -That's the whole point of what I'm saying. Many people died = It's not hard to meet the whale; If Crusch organized a whale hunt before, searching for about 1 or 2 weeks, they would eventually find it. -So the whale simply erase or kill people whenever the author wants? |
akaban said: Who said all of it was Subaru's plan all along? Remember he's with Rem and with what Subaru knows they could have come up with such a plan, he has learned his negotiating lesson from his previous "life" that's why he put a lot of effort in it. What makes me chuckle is that "your side" argued vociferously that this was waaaaayyy too much to ask for after episode 17, when I wrote that I'd have liked if he had used his brain BEFORE yelling. Now the tables are exactly turned, how ironic. I think I'd have liked a small "planning" session with Subaru and Rem, with Rem supplying some brains - that would have sat much better with me, and been more credible. You would not even have complained if an OP characters (says Kirito) would have come up with the same plan and at first try, here we have a character that lived the same things over and over and failed each time. No wonder his way of doing things improve that way. We'll see if Subaru really _improves_. Improving meaning having learned something and being able to employ his newfound knowledge/skill in a _lasting_ way. As in "the next time he comes under pressure, he still uses his brain and does not revert to screaming ragdoll". I'm not really optimistic here, though I would be delighted if this was the case, at least gradually. I still suspect the author to revert him to screaming ragdoll soonish when it suits him. Let's wait for the next 1-2 episodes. |
| whale whale whale.. that was a good episode! :) |
Buck_Wade said: 1. Many phones have plenty of battery enough to last more than a month if barely used. 2. There've been only *2 episodes* of the arc 2 characters being killed off. 3. Crusch can tell when someone is lying or not. i dont know about rest but; 1. even if phones turned off, battery still depleted. we talking about mid - low phones here so no, no cellphones last long enough for month (one week max if idle) except i dont know or you can give me proof. |
| 期待しているよ、私のサリアだって、嘘ばっかり! でもねアンジュ、あんたがいなくなれば、私の方が強いってわかれば, それができるなら、何もいらない! |
| Subaru is awesome in this episode... that's what I want to see from him. Can't wait for the next episode! |
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akaban said: It's maybe not 1 month but more than 1 week, and we are talking about a phone that is connected to the network all day. Subaru's phone is not connected to one since there is no network. And it's only about 2 weeks or so since Subaru came in this world (at least I think it should be something like 2 weeks) if its really 2 weeks then its fair enough, but one month or so? i dont think so, i'm not nitpick about how much time subaru in that world, but if someone think battery will not depleted just because its turned off then thats misleading information, except we have magic explanation or anything. |
| 期待しているよ、私のサリアだって、嘘ばっかり! でもねアンジュ、あんたがいなくなれば、私の方が強いってわかれば, それができるなら、何もいらない! |
al-birny said: akaban said: It's maybe not 1 month but more than 1 week, and we are talking about a phone that is connected to the network all day. Subaru's phone is not connected to one since there is no network. And it's only about 2 weeks or so since Subaru came in this world (at least I think it should be something like 2 weeks) if its really 2 weeks then its fair enough, but one month or so? i dont think so, i'm not nitpick about how much time subaru in that world, but if someone think battery will not depleted just because its turned off then thats misleading information, except we have magic explanation or anything. That's not a smartphone you know... (IDK either how are the phones in Japan). My old phone, I never use it and it could just stay on my desk weeks (he was still on, not off) before I put it in charge. The smartphones now have really a poor battery, but before it wasn't the case for "classic" phones. |
| vWe know why the whale appeared! Plot Device! At least he is trying to think. Assuming the grill was going to hunt for the whale is a huge leap tho, and no, pointing out it was a hug leape on his part doesnt make it less retarded. Why anyone took his negotiation seriously anyways, he has no power to negotiate anything. Its like me going to Obama and try to sell to Murica the forests in Brazil. Rem can notice the main dude lie about the cell phone being metia but the chick with the power to detect lies couldnt see it... And good job running into a dangerous killing beast without any armor, you asshole. Probably the least shitty episode since episode 7. |
| Remember guys, I AM NOT A PARAGON OF TASTE. I HAVE SHIT TASTE LIKE THE REST OF YOU. |
| HYpe is real! Next episode gonna be awesome!! Also that ringtone :D |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| I guess his cellphone is a Nokia because he still has battery after all that time! |
| All this talk about the phone is baffling me. It hasn't actually been that long since he's been in this world has it? Should be 2-3 weeks at most? Which is fine for that kind of phone. Especially if you consider that it's a very old model. Long battery and crazy durability. I can't even count the number of times it fell on the floor... Even my smartphone can last at least a week when I don't use it. |
| first not 10/10 ep in a while, but thanks to REM still 9/10. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Glad that Subaru is back in his senses. And what if the whale didn't appear XD The last scene was nostalgic, and epic was the cellphone music :D |
| So the one month long filler is finally over huh? Thank god it isn't log horizon S2 where only the last episode is plot. |
I really felt tense when the white whale didn't appear at first, for some reason that ringtone made the scene even better. This episode was really good, it seems that Subaru's misery will finally cease for now. not your usual rivalry moment. :P The only thing that I can't comprehend is how come all those soldiers started to praise Subaru on something uncertain, maybe their trust in their master is blind but... well.. is just doesn't make much sense for me. |
HanaeX said: I guess his cellphone is a Nokia because he still has battery after all that time! He still didn't try to hit someone with it. Or stop a sword slash with it. Protagonist of Oda Nobuna No Yabou has a Nokia (it stops bullets and swords) |
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Necromia said: JkayW said: Forced unrealistic development, if you'd even call it that, of Subaru. Last episode he's crying about how he's a useless sack of shit that can't do anything and is a complete dumbass, next episode he outsmarts two political leaders in bargaining from little deductive skills that he CLEARLY did not care or couldn't even pay attention to because, remember guys, he was soo crazay and traumatised. He fearlessly charges headfirst into battle as well, unlike all the other TRAINED SOILDERS, and not fearing his death like he was constantly in the last loop. So literally a 10 MINUTE DIALOGUE EXCHANGE LAST EPISODE BREAKS THE GUY OUT OF SUPPOSED FEAR, DEPRESSION, SELF DEPRICATION, GUILT AND TRAUMA. Great! So now he's just a cringy unbeatable character due to his time loops never going bad in the end. Also the episode was just plain boring and extremely dragged out. I couldn't give any less of a fuck about MUH revenge old guy because they never made me care for his character in the 6 episodes he was there. 2/5 needs more beetlejuice eyeball licking twister. I found it funny when you said it was "literally 10 minutes of dialog exchange." when the anime was extended and was dialog the entire episode. Don't bother with Jkay. Majority of their issues with this episode were explained. They're just shitposting at this point, honestly. Subaru Out Smarts Political Leaders >He uses what he learned in other loops in order to do so and has an advantage due to no one knowing about the cellphone. Maybe a bit too well, although it has been shown that Subaru is a bit self aware and perceptive in a way especially in the first few episodes where he negotiated at the Loot House. Subaru Charges Out Head First In Front Of Trained Soldiers >Subaru stated to Crusch that he would be the bait as /he/ as the Witch's scent aka what the Whale and Mabeasts are after. So Subaru has to charge out first and while the whale is chasing them, the others attack it. By doing this, it minimizes the possible deaths in the upcoming battle as the Whale will be too focused on Subaru to do maximum damage. See how all their points start falling apart? All the buzzwords and constant dislike for the show? Yeah, shitposting. Do they have good points sometimes? Yeah, I guess so. But notice their condescending nature with this show? They mock everything this show has to offer and anyone defending it. Don't bother rip |
YuzurynAug 8, 2016 8:49 AM
| Subaru personality changes once again as plot demands him to be smart. He loses his fear of death because plot needs him to. And suddenly everyone respects him, because ... honestly, I can't call it a magic, even though magic also fail when plots demand it. I suppose we are heading for the power-up arc |
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beast_regards said: Subaru personality changes once again as plot demands him to be smart. He loses his fear of death because plot needs him to. And suddenly everyone respects him, because ... honestly, I can't call it a magic, even though magic also fail when plots demand it. I suppose we are heading for the power-up arc Not to bandwagon and everything, but I kinda disagree I wouldn't say he lost his fear of death because plot needs him to. Subaru was all alone then and had no one to help him. Now he has Rem, and two whole armies to help support him. It's like going into a Haunted House alone. It's pretty scary, but if you go with others, won't you feel safer?? Anyways, to me, everyone respecting him makes sense. Think about the White Whale being a huge bully, then some new guy comes out of nowhere(Subaru) who has the guts to band everyone together to stop the Bully from being mean to everyone. People say thanks to the new guy (Subaru) because he has had the guts to step up when they didn't or couldn't. Or maybe, soldiers who want to go to war with another country who is all terribly evil, but can't without the permission of the president. But then someone (Subaru) convinces the president to go through with the plan of war allowing the soldiers to defeat their enemies etc. Not to say Subaru's change doesn't have any flaws. Personally, I would have shown his inner thoughts more to flesh out that he is still scared of death. They kinda showed it with his conversation with Rem near the tree that he is still scared but I guess that wasn't enough. |
YuzurynAug 8, 2016 8:52 AM
simonli2575 said: Chiyousagi said: So the one month long filler is finally over huh? Thank god it isn't log horizon S2 where only the last episode is plot. By that logic, I suppose Groundhog Day and Edge of Tomorrow are basically filler: The Movie then. Edge of Tomorrow is a horrible movie and Groundhog Day is funny, so bad comparison. Shoulda said something like The Tatami Galaxy. |
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Yuzuryn said: Not to bandwagon and everything, but I kinda disagree I wouldn't say he lost his fear of death because plot needs him to... Not to say Subaru's change doesn't have any flaws.... But he does. He spent two or three episodes being scared to death and/or being in nearly catatonic state. Don't you remember the previous two or three episodes and how Subaru's behaved? Or though? It's not the first time he gets magically cured of his mental condition, we went through it a few times during 18 episodes. His fear of death is highly optional against the same enemy. Before, whale scared shit out of him, now he doesn't give a f*** and acts fearlessly as a bait. Army that he suddenly motivated after being completely dumb and useless for entire time, now he could convince army with few including fairly corrupted government officials to head against the monster non one dared to touch for years. Flaws? Well, Subaru has a "flaws". He is an idiot. Well, idiot savant. Or autistic. Show virtually gives him intelligence when plot demands it. He literally learned written language in 3 - 12 days. |
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| This was an interesting bit of world building we just saw. The way certain factions work are a bit clearer, and we can finally see that this White Whale has been a big thing that's been happening for a while. Even to the point that they have their own "mock survival group" thing with the soldiers who lost people to the whale. Which brings up a big question. Why do they remember these victims? I think something sinister is happening here. I'd say it puts these deaths (or maybe the cause of them) in to question. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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akaban said: About the phone, it is not even supposed to exist in this world so it would be okay to call it magic. And you don't know how Crusch power works anyways nice plot hole detection! Subaru basically lied that his cellphone is a metia in their world, so why did Crusch never mentioned about him lying about that rather important detail? |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| I shouldn't watch this episode. It's so thrilling that I just want to marathon the shit out of it to the end. But whatever, I guess I have to re I think waiting for episode 20 will be pain in the ass to wait. A week to pass is a week too long. Subaru is back on track! Finally. Watching him depressed is making me depressed. Rem in the other hand, why are you so goddamn moe! That alarm ringtone reminds me of Jurassic park 3, you know the ringtone is a sign that shit about to go down. Perfectly set-up for eerie situation. 10/10 will re:zero the animu |
kidlat020 said: akaban said: About the phone, it is not even supposed to exist in this world so it would be okay to call it magic. And you don't know how Crusch power works anyways nice plot hole detection! Subaru basically lied that his cellphone is a metia in their world, so why did Crusch never mentioned about him lying about that rather important detail? Actually Subaru told her kinda the truth about the phone, it did indeed tell him when the whale will atk so that was not really a lie, he used the phons alarm as a timer for the whale atk. |
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kidlat020 said: akaban said: About the phone, it is not even supposed to exist in this world so it would be okay to call it magic. And you don't know how Crusch power works anyways nice plot hole detection! Subaru basically lied that his cellphone is a metia in their world, so why did Crusch never mentioned about him lying about that rather important detail? technologies like subaru's cellphone is actually considered an artifact called metia, which means there are other earth belongings that were spread around this world too previously carried by other earth people before, so technically subaru was not lying |
| That ringtone at the end tho lol |
Jeremeh said: That ringtone at the end tho lol trivia : subaru's ringtone is actually from an old japanese anime called "A dog of Flanders" |
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