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| I know it's a long shot, but dose anyone know the Song that plays during this scene? starts at 00:42, Thanks. |
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| So Nori receives all the pain, that must be hard... Tenga is such a awesome guy! He went after Chidori to hear her rejection...but I really want them to be together. |
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| Well, the ep does expand the backstory to a sob story, not that it affected me in any way #Heartless Didn't experiment was conducted 12 yrs ago, so presently them being 2nd yr HS student ~17 yrs, they were around 5 years old!!!!!!! For 5 yrs olds, isn't it too early to be be in love?????? or was that just playful??? |
Compared to the previous episode, the previous episode is still way better than this one but i must say, this episode is one of the best episode. Most reason because the explanation/revelation of the Kizna system and Kaccon's Flashback, they even showed those 5 unforgettable people for Kacchon. seriously, that scene was very emotional even tho it didn't make me cry. but when they showed Sonozaki's face with smile and happiness, like, ma reaction.....ma mind got blew away....like "who the fuck am i seeing right now...." it was suprising yet emotional. ^ who thinks that is Nori ? for the first thought, i never thought that was Nori. i thought she was someone else. On the other side, looks like Nico give up with Tenga ? well, at least 3 of them become friends again :D Maki and Yuta......i don't care for now. i'm more interested with Chidori and Tenga since he wanted Chidori to rejected him ? pretty straight forwad coming from Tenga xD But again, Chidori can't say it like it ain't nothing to her. handling her feeling toward Kacchon already that hard, and now she got Tenga too. Obvious he got that kind of response from her. but either way, obviously from that ending, just from every shape, evey angle you see, Katsuhira will be with Nori. OBVIOUS. that leaves Chidori and Tenga. Tenga with Nico ? i kinda doubt it since Tenga kinda didn't even bother to talk to Nico in this episode. now the problem lies on Chidori. will she keep on trying with Katsuhira or will she give up on Katsuhira and that leaves Tenga to make a move on her ? xD i kinda excited to see what will happen next. obvious, there will be some trigger to make Chidori to like Tenga. and that trigger is the thing which i'm very looking foward to xD XD XD looking foward for the next episode. That ending sure was emotional. i hope those 5 people will get better soon. maybe Sonozaki will do something or maybe something might trigger those 5 people and it cause all of their sense coming back to them ? looking foward for that too. and btw, the story of what happened with Nori in the past is really horrible indeed. like, literally 19 people at once, coming to her. i wonder what i feels.... to save her, they erased (?) all of Nori's sense. NOT ONLY PAIN, every sense has been erased (?) without sensation, feeling, happines, pain, sad, jealous, it's empty like a robot. emotionless. and it was making it more emotional when they showed Nori face with that smile on her face, full of happiness (Pics Above). |
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| That beginning man. Totally called it. It was so obvious that Hisomu would go to Katsuhira because he was bored :D Even the situation with Nico was kinda expected. She wouldn't have problems being around those two unless Tenga and Chidori would be with them, too, which wouldn't happen at that point. Maybe in the next two episodes (I mean there is no way they'd end the situation like this. I'm pretty sure they all get back together even though I'd dislike that a little) but definitely not now. I'm curious where this is going. Really like that they actually show us what happened in the past. It was really interesting to hear why the project failed exactly. And it was a nice change to see the teacher explaining it so willingly. That other teacher is just annoying by now. But I have to admit it was kinda funny seeing him rubbing salt into their wounds just enough so that they'd notice and not enough that the rest of the class notices that there is something going on :D Man only two more episodes. If they keep this going it'll be nice. I just hope they don't go back to the constant whining that their love is not requited. |
| Very good episode! emotions are overflowing especially to Katsuhira, and we could see on the end that the cry of sadness/sorrowness of Katsuhira really made a lot of impact on the show because of all the memories that came back at him! We get to see more and a lot of truth regarding the past events of Kizna experiment with 19 kids 2 of them are Katsuhira & Nori. So that explains the deadpan reaction of Nori-chan because of all of the medicines that's needed so subdue all of the amplified pain of the 18 children because(including Katsuhira) she was the fatal error of the experiment. 5/5. |
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JkayW said: Episode is shit like all the others. You expect me to care about a character you did nothing with for 9 episodes. Fuck off. You obviously don't understand that the main character of this anime is actually really important. |
| Did Kacchon lose his memories as a side-effect of 1st exp or plot convenience????? |
rinneganfire4u said: Did Kacchon lose his memories as a side-effect of 1st exp or plot convenience????? suppressing traumatic memories is a very normal coping mechanism. I'm surprised you didn't know this. also they were very young indeed, and I have like 1 or 2 memories from when I was <7 y old. |
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Tiemuuu said: suppressing traumatic memories is a very normal coping mechanism. I'm surprised you didn't know this. also they were very young indeed, and I have like 1 or 2 memories from when I was <7 y old. It is said by Nori-chan that he lost his memories, so your suppressing theory = brainwashing to forget them ??? Also nobody remembers their most memories of childhood, but his sudden surge of flashback doesn't seem like normal forgetful childhood memory. |
rinneganfire4u said: Tiemuuu said: suppressing traumatic memories is a very normal coping mechanism. I'm surprised you didn't know this. also they were very young indeed, and I have like 1 or 2 memories from when I was <7 y old. It is said by Nori-chan that he lost his memories, so your suppressing theory = brainwashing to forget them ??? Also nobody remembers their most memories of childhood, but his sudden surge of flashback doesn't seem like normal forgetful childhood memory. where did she say that? just curious. I don't understand why this seems so odd to you. anything can trigger you to remember stuff from the past. words, pictures, even smells. ffs, Katsuhira was literally visiting the place where the events happened and faced those five people again. feel free to dislike this show, it has some contrived stuff, but this particular scene was absolutely logical. |
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| MUCH better than last week's episode. |
gophercg said: Bit late but good explanation on the kizna system & backstory, turns out quite a tragic failure, executed quite well especially va's. And gives a very different view on Nori. Nico continues being the savior. That triplet merry go round lol. Tenga being nice twice for Chidori, but she's getting more selfish/annoying. Main question they haven't answered is why the 1st experiment kinza didn't vanish like the current one? Seems they were unable to remove the system once the Nori issue came up? I think the 1st Kizna system was never meant to be removed, and hence they were placed in compromising areas of the body. Nori's is in her neck. Katsuhira's one is in his chest near the heart. the new Kiznas were placed in the wrist for all of them specifically because of this. That's what I believe so far. |
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iNorichann1 said: Poor kids who were involved in the experiment. And poor Kacchon who has to see his childhood friends not being like humans anymore. Ok, maybe I feel sorry for Nori-chan too, but .. this does not change the fact that I don't like her. And as for Chidori, I guess I'm the only one who still likes her. I don't see any reason she should be acting normal and happy and move on with her life , when her childhood friend keeps showing his love for somebody else in front of her eyes , turns her his back to run after his beloved and does not even try to comfort or rather run after her when she's crying, even if she is the only one who looks after him. Am I wrong or isn't Sonozaki selfish by helping with the experiment although she as the most affected one has to know what side effects it can have? Maybe she is trying to help her childhood friends get normal again and gain emotions, but wouldn't that mean that she is ok and puts up with the fact that the experiment could have side effects again and the Kacchon she loves could also become like one of those childhood friends or something else could happen to him? If that's the case , good luck with your Kacchon X Sonozaki pairing. I feel the same way. I feel really sorry about Nori-chan but even after hearing about her past I still don't like her. People say Chidori is selfish but I don't see why it is selfish to cry if you're sad, or feeling broken inside if the one you love, loves someone else and you can't do anything to change that. She's frustrated, and horribly sad so of course she's being hostile. I really hope she forgets about Katsuhira soon enough and move on... She deserves happiness. |
HeiizeJun 17, 2016 3:09 PM
| A much lighter.. but still pretty dark feeling on this episode. But still really good. I am so glad I picked this one up. I actually kinda like the ups and downs. |
| Be sure to message me if you quoted me and want me to respond! Just give me a link to the forum, because usually I leave my comment, then leave the forum. |
| Hmm well tbh Sonozaki kinda redeemed herself with this episode. Same goes for Nico. But I still hate Chidori, Tenga and glasses girl. |
| Pretty strong ending what happened to Sonozaki sucks. That failed experiment had fatal consequences even after the bonds are severed its still a amazing episode. |
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| Great episode, and a tragic ending |
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| Lifeless dolls.. sad. And that teacher was a dick in the beginning. |
WingsJun 19, 2016 11:06 AM
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IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW |
| This episode is one of the better ones, so I get to know the past behind Noriko anad Agata. |
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| Who would've thought that Nico and Hisomu would be the only likeable characters left? I don't care about Katsuhiro or Nori. They were being assholes all along, so let them suffer, I don't mind. |
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| I didn't really like the first few episodes and was thinking about dropping the series, but man, I am so happy I did not. The recent episodes got me for good and I am really curious about the upcoming ones! |
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| Damn all 19 at once? :o |
| Nico being best girl as always <3 Damn, Nori has it rough. Feel sorry for her That "I love you, too, Katsuhira" was so cute.. Bring back that smile! |
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| Oh my god damn. I must have developed a latent connection with what's been going on in this show., because nothing's gotten to me on an emotional level ...until they finally showed young Nori-chan's bright smiling face (cue the 6th quote in my signature). "I love you, too, Katsuhira-kun!" Just experienced a "Kizna" moment of my own. Nori-chan's situation is definitely an analogy for the unfortunate reality of clinical depression and how we treat it. When she experiences pain/negative feelings, it's orders of magnitude worse than what people normally experience, and so the best solution they've come up with so far is to drug her up; nullify her senses and sap away her energy. Shit. |
-Trippwire-Jun 28, 2016 8:59 PM
| I guess that explains why that dude doesn't feel pain... Problem: If Noriko got it all, even the act of sitting down would not be a problem unless all 19 did it at the same time. (or it wasn't explained very well) |
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| Chidori get over yourself please, smh. Much better than the previous episode...though I still can't say that I like Sonozaki even after finding out about her situation. |
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| So now we find out what happened earlier in Katsuhira's childhood and how big a role Sonozaki played in it.. |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Damn that sure was melodramatic again, especially that ending! Really touching and just so great! Let's see what's next. |
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| I'm sorry but I laughed at Katsuhira crying at the end. Just like all the drama in this show, it didn't have the impact it should have. And the voice actor made him sound like he was having an orgasm... |
| I don't like the plotline of modern kiznaivers, because it's just one big (and boring) forced drama, but the plotline of previous kiznaivers is very VERY interesting. I wish they had focused more on this one. Shit, I almost cried on the final scene of the episode. |
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| Nico's bringing them back together again~ I absolutely loved her broken voice scenes, especially that one in the preview. Drinking coffee and seeing Nico react from the bitterness of the drink in the same time was appropriately amusing to me. Hisomu's a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Someone finally had sudden physical pain and he wasn't connected to feel it. Tenga asking Chidori to reject him reminds me of exactly what I did to a girl I hopelessly liked. So that's why Nori-chan's a kuudere. Katsuhira finally knew about the situation and even met up with his vegetative friends. Him finally breaking down was heart wrenching :( |
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| best episode by far... damn the feels please YAMETE |
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| The real experiment under the table!!! all the truth, the cruel truth!!! When Katsuhira heart the story can cry only!!!! ; _ ; |
| That cry was fucking comedy gold. 10/10 would bawl my eyes out again Fuck this show and its fake feels. |
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| I feel bad for the poor kids, what a sad episode... |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Dat new OP. Asshole Yaamada. lol at Hisomu said saying reverse harem. Dat fall. Brave Tenga asking to get rejected. So that's where they were. Sorry, but I had to laugh at Katsuhira at the end. When you jizz, but she keep on sucking. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| Oh. Much better episode than the last shitter. So ladies and gentelmen this time we got a story focused episode. Yay. Even a backstory episode that was pretty much crucial to understanding whole plot and whole Kizna system. Finally. Pretty sad to end like those kids, no feelings, lifeless, stoned. Whop. Very nice music in this scene. It was pretty much obvious that Noriko had a motive for all this "torture". She was never presented as passionate about torturing them and there was once instance where she was reluctant to some ideas(EP4). |
| That definitely explained a lot and why Sonozaki always looks so bland. I can't believe she's still alive after she took the pain of 18 other people. I was wondering what that injection was she got so often. What happened in the last episode shattered most of the bonds of the Kiznaivers. Honoka for example seemed even dismissive as before. Poor Chidori, I can feel her pain :( At least Katsuhira, Hisomu and Niko got friends. How can Yamada be such an asshole? I was so angry during the scene in the class. What does he think? That Chidori and the others don't have feelings and that everything was just a game? Fuck this guy... That ending was super sad. The emotionless Katsuhira began to cry when he saw his friends from the past. |
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| Wow, that was better than I thought it would be. I hope they remain friends, they've been through a lot together. I'm honestly not sure how this is going to turn out now. Hopefully they can do something to make Chidori feel better. Heartbreak, especially from unrequited feelings, is really tough to get over, especially for younger people like them. Nico is precious. She's definitely my favorite by far. She's able to put aside her feelings for Tenga and try to salvage her friendship with everyone. Pretty fucked up about the original Kizna experiment. That must have been hell for Nori, no wonder she's like that now. Not going to lie I teared up a bit when Katsuhira cried for those kids at the end. That's some horrible shit they did to those kids, I'm surprised they attempted the experiment again to be honest. One thing I don't understand though, is why in the flashbacks the kids all seemed like they were in pain, when they just explained that the pain wasn't being returned to them? |
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praisethevillain said: Wow, that was better than I thought it would be. I hope they remain friends, they've been through a lot together. I'm honestly not sure how this is going to turn out now. Hopefully they can do something to make Chidori feel better. Heartbreak, especially from unrequited feelings, is really tough to get over, especially for younger people like them. Nico is precious. She's definitely my favorite by far. She's able to put aside her feelings for Tenga and try to salvage her friendship with everyone. Pretty fucked up about the original Kizna experiment. That must have been hell for Nori, no wonder she's like that now. Not going to lie I teared up a bit when Katsuhira cried for those kids at the end. That's some horrible shit they did to those kids, I'm surprised they attempted the experiment again to be honest. One thing I don't understand though, is why in the flashbacks the kids all seemed like they were in pain, when they just explained that the pain wasn't being returned to them? I still don't understand what the new kizna experiment was meant to acheive? Is it still just trials? How does this lead to world peace? Seems like such a shallow idea for a show to basically build romantic drama. |
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